The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    Hirsute

    #FarageRiots

    #FarageRiots

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUErc63WUAAzc4D?format=jpg&name=small

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    Hirsute

    Couple of newsthump

    Couple of newsthump

    Man who regularly invokes the ‘Blitz spirit’ in face of perceived adversity left emotionally broken by tethered bottle cap

    Local patriot and self-proclaimed defender of British culture, Simon Williams, 45, has reportedly been left emotionally shattered this week after an encounter with a new EU-mandated tethered bottle cap.

    Protesters sitting peacefully in the road should go to prison forever, but protesters throwing bricks at police is ‘perfectly understandable’ insist right-wing contrarians

    A man who has spent all year insisting Just Stop Oil protestors should go to prison for sitting quietly in the road, has today insisted that it is ‘perfectly understandable’ so many protesters express their current frustration by hurling bricks at police and setting fire to things.

     

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    David9694

    Leopard loving man has face

    Leopard loving man has face bitten off by leopard.  I condemn racism in all its forms, but we’re in the same territory as with Zia Yusuf / Reform highlighted by Hirsute last week. 

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    brooksby

    On Trump and the RNC, did

    On Trump and the RNC, did anyone see this story:

    Barrage of hate from far-right Trumpists to Sikh prayer at Republican convention

    Toxic response to prayer from pro-Trump Harmeet Dhillon, leading figure on Republican national committee

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/18/republican-national-convention-prayer-harmeet-dhillon

    She’s a Trump-supporting Sikh, very wealthy and high up in the GOP.  Asking her to make a prayer didn’t go down too well with the RNC attendees:

    … the earliest response to Dhillon’s prayer came from white nationalist and antisemitic activist Nick Fuentes, who said of the prayer in his live stream of the convention’s first night: “This is blasphemy. This is total blasphemy. Oh, fuck off. What a joke.”

    Fuentes’s acolytes followed suit. As the prayer was ending, an X account associated with the Fuentes-aligned “America First” website posted: “RNC promotes blasphemy and Sikh idolatry moments after Lutheran benediction.”

    The far-right podcaster and internet personality Stew Peters took a similar line on X, posting: “Day 1 of the RNC was complete with satanic chants and multiple prayers to FALSE GODS.”

    Lauren Witzke, meanwhile, posted video of a part of Dhillon’s speech with the caption, “How about you get deported instead, you pagan blasphemer,” adding: “God saves our president and the RNC mocks him with this witchcraft.”

    #1017071
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    brooksby
    David9694 wrote:
    Not sure the recent Trump shooting incident is quite the clincher it’s being played as  – like what new supporters does it bring? Sure, if you’re already frothing this will play into your narrative. 

    The conspiracy theories around it – from both sides – are all quite fun, but unfortunately it scared Jack Black and brought a premature end to the Tenacious D tour in Oz…  Lots of Aussie fans of the D disappointed there, I’d guess.

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    David9694

    Ginger beer’s lurch towards

    Ginger beer’s lurch towards fascism 

    Somerset drinks firm under fire for Donald Trump Republican Convention links

    They have said it is a misunderstanding and they do not endorse any political party

    no, you just thought it was a good idea to send them some free product

    https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/somerset-drinks-firm-under-fire-9422059

    https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/17/rnc-host-committee-sponsors-explained-include-starbucks-heritage/74441055007/

     

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    David9694

    Thanks for the long view on

    Thanks for the long view on this – I hope we can get through to the other side if there is a Trump victory. 

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    brooksby
    Rendel Harris wrote:
    brooksby wrote:
    I read that Vance was rabidly opposed to Trump a couple of short years ago, said he was an American Hitler, that sort of thing. 

    Yep, also called Trump an “idiot”, “reprehensible” and described himself as a “never Trumper”.

    Why, it’s almost as if Vance has no principles at all and will go wherever he can sniff the possibility of power…* 

     

     

    *See also “Farage”

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    chrisonabike

    Well … pedantry but I

    Well … pedantry but I suspect it’s “lurch towards autocracy / demagogues / populism” (the latter two need further qualification probably)?

    As people point out, the US has phases of more or less internal polarisation and strife, also inward-focus and internationalism.  The latter seeming to depend on whether they think the rest of the world needs help to live up to the example of the US, or all those others are hopeless / barbarians / just a drain on the energy of America.

    And of course if your country somehow appears to be in the way an outward-looking US can cause you a similar amount of horror as e.g. Russia – with a similar lack of contrition.  (Pedants may say “but the methods and attitudes differ” – but looking at SE asia / Latin America / Iraq the results look rather similar …)

    From my tiny awareness of things it does at least seem Trump was much moderated from his early pronouncements / the chaos his distate for the system and general approach would otherwise have caused.  Or alternatively he changed his mind so often that many of the troubling things didn’t actually happen…

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    David9694

    Yeah sorry about the thread

    Yeah sorry about the thread drift – how about “welcome to…the world’s lurch towards fascism”? 

    Farage is exactly like drivers and could have a 312 majority, but he’d still be the underdog, fighting for the common man against, er – sorry, I got nothing.  

    The next thing is the tories will bring in someone like Iain Duncan-Smith as some kind of interim leader – oh sorry, what was that? 
     

    Ps DAK if Farage has tweeted a recent picture of him and Trump?

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    David9694

    Because Trump is a reflective

    Because Trump is a reflective leader who values challenge from those around him? 

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    David9694

    One commentator says it’s

    One commentator says it’s what’s passes for humour at the moment. We’ve got a few months to “kiss and make up with Europe, at least be allowed to sleep in the spare room, catastrophising as I am that they will win. 

    About 20 years ago, I was lucky enough to go on a work trip to Stormont to meet the civil servants who work there. It’s no panacea, but these are the guys that sit down with fanatical (and often deluded) people and somehow, with the patience of many saints, manage to leave all the rhetoric and positioning at the door and pin down “what is important to you, out of what is possible to do, what do you want to get done?”

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    Rendel Harris
    brooksby wrote:
    I read that Vance was rabidly opposed to Trump a couple of short years ago, said he was an American Hitler, that sort of thing. 

    Yep, also called Trump an “idiot”, “reprehensible” and described himself as a “never Trumper”.

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    brooksby
    Rendel Harris wrote:
    David9694 wrote:
    I see we have a running mate now – brilliant.

    Who proclaimed last week that since Labour won the election the UK is now the world’s premier nuclear-armed Islamist power. VP Pence wasn’t exactly a model of reason but by all accounts did mitigate and moderate some of the Donald’s wilder ideas, looks like Vance will be an encourager and an enabler for them.

    I read that Vance was rabidly opposed to Trump a couple of short years ago, said he was an American Hitler, that sort of thing. 

    #1017049
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    Rendel Harris
    David9694 wrote:
    I see we have a running mate now – brilliant.

    Who proclaimed last week that since Labour won the election the UK is now the world’s premier nuclear-armed Islamist power. VP Pence wasn’t exactly a model of reason but by all accounts did mitigate and moderate some of the Donald’s wilder ideas, looks like Vance will be an encourager and an enabler for them.

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