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Antiques store describe missile attached to van as “anti-cyclist modification”; Police say no group cycling on IM weekend; Disabled cyclist shows TransPennine bike rack flaws; School’s cycling ban due to lack of storage + more on the live blog

It’s Friday! Jack Sexty is here to provide your lead live blog coverage today with other members of the team chipping in intermittently…
  • by Jack Sexty
Fri, Sep 04, 2020 09:01
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SUMMARY

  • Extinction Rebellion protests: Met Police confirm a number of arrests after cyclists blocked Lambeth bridge
  • School allegedly bans cycling for lower school students on 'health and safety' grounds... because there isn't enough cycle storage
  • Car Free Day 2020 campaign launches, with free Santander Cycle trips and prize giveaways including Brompton e-bikes
  • Richard Freeman tribunal: former British Cycling and Team Sky doctor ordered to have medical examination before trial resumes next month
  • Andy Burnham saddles up to head back to the office
  • Dutch parking problems
  • Disabled cyclist shows once again how hated vertical bike storage racks on Hitachi-built trains are unusable
  • InternationElles near completion of challenge to ride this year's Tour de France distance and elevation in just one week
  • Police ask would-be Ironman Wales competitors not to cycle in packs ahead of cancelled event weekend
  • Tour latest: Thomas de Gendt makes a break for it
  • Brooks saddle executive and former L'Eroica president Andrea Meneghelli dies aged 49
  • De Gendt gets reined in
  • Wout van Aert 'probably the best cyclist in the world', says Bradley Wiggins
  • Van Aert wins Tour de France stage 7
  • American conservative radio host Eric Metaxas admits to punching cyclist who was protesting Trump speech at Republican Convention
  • Antiques store cause offence by describing missile attached to van as "anti-cyclist modification"
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4 September 2020, 09:01

Extinction Rebellion protests: Met Police confirm a number of arrests after cyclists blocked Lambeth bridge

Officers have so far arrested dozens of protesters who blocked Lambeth Bridge, including those who locked on.

Officers continue to make arrests and clear the bridge of disruption pic.twitter.com/1rVUYdad74

— MPS Events (@MetPoliceEvents) September 3, 2020

✊🏻🚴🏼✊🏽🚴🏾‍♂️✊🏿🚴🏻‍♀️ We have a right to peaceful protest in this country. This evening, police kettled (completely surrounded) 200 peaceful cyclists on Lambeth Bridge, and arrested them all. This is an abuse of police power. Love & Solidarity to all involved!!

❤️🧡💛💜💚🖤💙 pic.twitter.com/LPLM5q7ndG

— Extinction Rebellion Brent 🌍🕊💚 (London) (@XRBrentLondon) September 3, 2020

Update on Lambeth Bridge. Police have surrounded 200 cyclists and are not letting anyone leave. They are arresting everyone!

Our peaceful right to protest is being trampled on.

— Extinction Rebellion Brighton (⧖) (@XRBrighton) September 3, 2020

Yesterday protests took place across London which saw Mayfair, Trafalgar Square and Lambeth Bridge blocked, and now police have said that “dozens” of arrests were made over the blocking of Lambeth bridge. There were reports over 200 cyclists in support if XR attended, with some complaining that they were being kettled by police. Others argued that the protestors were breaking the rules on large gatherings during the pandemic, and were blocking routes for emergency services. 

More updates if and when we get them. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

School allegedly bans cycling for lower school students on 'health and safety' grounds... because there isn't enough cycle storage

First day at school.

Sad to see that secondary school Grey Coat Hospital in Victoria is banning cycling to school for most students

“Not enough cycle parking spaces”@willnorman maybe can have a word with the Headteacher?@Heidi_LDN @citycyclists @CarolineRussell pic.twitter.com/T0KcHLh1nR

— Vision Zero London (@V0LDN) September 3, 2020

The letter is reported to have been sent to parents from Grey Coat Hospital – a secondary school for girls in Westminster – saying that bicycle storage is only to be used by sixth formers, and that space is “extremely limited”. The letter continues: “Younger students are not permitted to cycle to school due for health and safety reasons and we will not allow them to store a bicycle at school.” 

They say that staggered arrival times and earlier finishes will “ease pressure on rush hour traffic”, which presumably means the school expect children use public transport or get a lift from parents/guardians. 

Simple. Convert half a dozen car parking spaces to create 60+ spots

— Person, woman, man, camera, tv (@BarryShawkins) September 3, 2020

Thanks for the tag. Certainly space constraints are often a challenge in London schools.

We’ve worked with many schools to figure out creative solutions for enabling student cycling. If there’s a way we can support, please email london@sustrans.org.uk

— Sustrans in London (@SustransLondon) September 3, 2020

Some have suggested that the school convert parking spaces, while Sustrans’ London branch have offered their assistance to facilitate students cycling to school. 

We’ve contacted The Grey Coat Hospital for comment. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Car Free Day 2020 campaign launches, with free Santander Cycle trips and prize giveaways including Brompton e-bikes

car free day 2020 promo - via tfl
car free day 2020 promo - via tfl (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
car free day 2020 promo - via tfl
car free day 2020 promo – via tfl (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

London’s Car Free Day is on 22nd September this year, and Transport for London have announced that free hires on Santander Cycle hire bikes will be available all day. Londonders are also encouraged to share their journey on social media using the hashtag #MyCarFreeTrip, and a lucky few will be selected to win prizes such as Brompton bikes, packages from GoPro and free one year Santander Cycle memberships. There is also a special 25% off offer on annual Santander Cycle memberships using the code CFD25OFF, which is valid on 22nd and 23rd September. 

James Austin of Sustrans London commented: “It is unacceptable that over two million Londoners live in areas blighted by dangerous and illegal levels of NO2, including thousands of young people who deserve a healthy start in life.

“Air pollution is a real threat to our health and wellbeing and until we end our reliance on motor vehicles and walk and cycle more for local journeys, the terrible consequences of the pollution in our streets will continue.

“Sustrans is encouraging Londoners to take part in Car Free Day 2020 and choose a healthier future.”

4 September 2020, 09:01

Richard Freeman tribunal: former British Cycling and Team Sky doctor ordered to have medical examination before trial resumes next month

Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky)
Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky)
Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Freeman is accused of ordering testosterone for British Cycling athletes – which he denies – and is now ordered to undergo an independent medical examination before his hearing resumes next month, after mental health issues caused length delays to the trial previously.   

According to the BBC’s Dan Roan, Freeman’s QC Mary O’Rourke says Dr Freeman is now in “robust good health, thank goodness”, and has returned to working five days a week at a GP’s surgery. The tribunal has demanded that Freeman be made available to undergo a medial examination in the week commencing 14th September, by “an independent expert appointed by the General Medical Council”.   

Freeman’s QC has also been asked to produce a redacted copy of the statement from her source, a journalist, who claimed to have seen an alleged affidavit from the Daily Mail, which was signed by former Team Sky and British Cycling coach Shane Sutton (Freeman claims Sutton bullied him into ordering testosterone to to treat erectile dysfunction). According to Roan, O’Rourke said she was struggling to persuade the journalist to give evidence. 

The hearing was convened for one day, and there will be another preliminary hearing on 25th September 2020 due to the request for further case management. The hearing will then reconvene in public session on 6th October 2020. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Andy Burnham saddles up to head back to the office

Today I’m returning to the office for the first time in five months – by bike!

Most of Greater Manchester remains under temporary restrictions on home gatherings & it’s important we follow them.

But it’s also important to support our city. So I’m hoping others will do the same. https://t.co/WhxN4T6AOO

— Andy Burnham (@AndyBurnhamGM) September 4, 2020

Ensuring that he’s taking heed of the advice from his Cycling and Walking Commissioner, Burnham has returned to his office after a lengthy WFH period by bike. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Dutch parking problems

Dutch parking problem:
Secondary school Pantarijn in Wageningen. pic.twitter.com/nqLYvrdjWy

— Cycling Professor (@fietsprofessor) September 3, 2020

In stark contrast to the cycling ban imposed on students of Grey Coat Hospital school in London, it doesn’t appear this school in Wageningen believes there are any “health and safety” issues when it comes to rammed bike storage areas. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Disabled cyclist shows once again how hated vertical bike storage racks on Hitachi-built trains are unusable

Love the cycle racks which mean that as a disabled person I can never use your service independently with my bike @TPExpressTrains

👍👍👍 pic.twitter.com/rFbX2W4Hdq

— Harrie Larrington-Spencer (@harrielspencer) September 4, 2020

In the video, a man is attempting to get Harrie Larrington-Spencer’s bike onto one of the cycle storage hooks in vain, the latest in a long line of passengers who are unable to use the storage sections as intended (read our experience here). 

The problematic bike storage sections are installed on new high-speed trains built by Hitachi for Great Western Railway, London North Eastern Railway (LNER) and TransPennine Express, and were slammed as “awful” by Cycling UK back in October; although in the comments section underneath Ms Larrington-Spencer’s post, it appears there could be some light at the end of the railway tunnel… 

Hi Harrie. I’m sorry you had trouble getting your bike on board today. We can make sure your comments are passed on to our fleet team. If you do need assistance in the future, our friendly team would be more than happy to support you – https://t.co/3AhHyiAp2u ^MO

— TPE Customer Assist (@TPEassist) September 4, 2020

We are currently in the process of redesigning the cycle racks on our Azuma trains after much feedback from customers. We also can’t guarantee a reservation near to the cycle storage area at the moment with social distancing in operation. ^SH

— London North Eastern Railway (@LNER) September 4, 2020

TransPennine’s customer assist team say they will pass the feedback on, while LNER say that they are looking to redesign the bike storage sections on their Hitachi-built Azuma trains… does this mean the other operators will be changing theirs too? We’ll be making some enquiries. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

InternationElles near completion of challenge to ride this year's Tour de France distance and elevation in just one week

The fearless @InternationEll2 have been powering through their Everest climb for over 7 hours and it’s only just past 11am. We will be here following their journey until sunset on Instagram Stories. Show your support with #ThisIsOurTime and our Instagram stickers and gifs! pic.twitter.com/Cqf82OIHzE

— ŠKODA UK (@SKODAUK) September 4, 2020

As we reported last week, the group of female cyclists usually ride the Tour de France route one day ahead of the men to campaign for gender equality in cycling and a women’s version of the event – and this year, riders are doing the distance and elevation of the three week Tour in just one week as a relay team, all without leaving the UK.

The challenge has culminated in an everesting attempt today, with riders taking on the challenge individually up the Bwlch – they will all have to tackle it 26 times to complete the required 8,848 metres of elevation for a successful everesting. 

The riders started at 4am this morning and are expected to finish at 8pm this evening, having gone past the halfway point at lunchtime. More info on the InternationElles can be found here. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Police ask would-be Ironman Wales competitors not to cycle in packs ahead of cancelled event weekend

 

IRONMAN WEEKEND | We’re aware some people are planning to travel to Tenby to race the IRONMAN route this weekend, and…

Posted by Heddlu Dyfed Powys Police on Thursday, September 3, 2020

Although the Ironman Wales triathlon in Tenby is cancelled this Sunday, Powys Police are advising those who plan to travel down to do the route independently with no road closures or support in place. 

They have advised that cyclists should not ride in packs, because visitor numbers are high and therefore the roads are “very dangerous”. They’ve also asked anyone planning to take on the sea swim to ensure conditions are appropriate, and runners to consider the need for social distancing. 

im wales comments.PNG
im wales comments (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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im wales comments (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The comments section is mixed, with some saying triathletes should stay away, and others who were booked on to the cancelled event saying they are unable to get refunds on their accommodation, so are making the most of the situation. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Tour latest: Thomas de Gendt makes a break for it

🏁 51 km to go !

🇧🇪 @DeGendtThomas ⬅️ 25″ ➡️ Peloton#TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/B3p6RSI6dR

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 4, 2020

After yesterday was rather tedious until the last few kilometres, the Belgian has injected a little bit of excitement to proceedings with around 50km to go. In other news, the yellow jersey group has more than a five minute gap on the green jersey group, with the split forming during a climb.  

4 September 2020, 09:01

Brooks saddle executive and former L'Eroica president Andrea Meneghelli dies aged 49

Andrea Meneghelli.
1972 – 2020#eroica @Eroica_Official pic.twitter.com/Cu1Sunx3Gj

— Cyclinside (@cyclinside) September 3, 2020

Meneghelli previously served as president of the L’Eroica events and was still heavily involved in the company, and was most recently a consultant for the Selle Royal group, which also owns Brooks. According to Corriere Del Veneto, Meneghelli passed away on Wednesday after falling ill during a training ride in his hometown of Dolo.

The town’s mayor Alberto Polo said: “He lived his passion for cycling privately, but always made himself available to the local community. Just a few weeks ago, at the end of July, he made spaces available in his family’s villa for a meeting dedicated to children with disabilities and their families. 

“To leave us at 49 is not possible.” 

Meneghelli leaves behind a wife and two children, and his funeral is expected to take place shortly at the church of San Rocco di Dolo.

4 September 2020, 09:01

De Gendt gets reined in

The peloton sees 🇧🇪 @DeGendtThomas.

Le peloton voit 🇧🇪 @DeGendtThomas.#TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/KngwVAfbLh

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 4, 2020

His efforts were in vain, but it’s not like he’s cared too much in the past. In whipping crosswinds, riders in the GC group are now trying to split the pack and it’s every man for himself. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Wout van Aert 'probably the best cyclist in the world', says Bradley Wiggins

TdF 2020 presentation Wout van Aert - 1
TdF 2020 presentation Wout van Aert - 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
TdF 2020 presentation Wout van Aert - 1
TdF 2020 presentation Wout van Aert – 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Speaking on another episode of his podcast, Wiggins thinks the 25-year-old Belgian is the real deal after storming to victory on stage five of the Tour de France, after setting up teammate Primoz Roglic for the win on the previous day. 

Wiggins said: “He (Van Aert) is probably the best cyclist in the world after everything that he has done: three-time world cyclocross champion, San Remo winner, Strade Bianche winner, time-trial winner in the Dauphiné last year. 

“He just possesses everything, and he seems to do it with such ease as well. He makes it look easy. 

“He has ridden 15 races since the end of lockdown, has won five of them and the rest of the time he has done a job for the team. And what a job he did yesterday on that summit finish, pulling for Primoz and then today he wins a bunch sprint.”

4 September 2020, 09:01

Van Aert wins Tour de France stage 7

Wout van Aert takes #2. Adam Yates keeps yellow jersey. #TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/gXx67ZN95r

— ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily) September 4, 2020

It looks like Wiggo is being proved right, as Van Aert thunders to a third Tour de France stage win of his career and his second this year. Adam Yates will stay in yellow going into stage 8. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

American conservative radio host Eric Metaxas admits to punching cyclist who was protesting Trump speech at Republican Convention

Protestor rides bike yelling “fuck you” past RNC attendees. A man decides to punch him in his face. A cop then starts pushing back the man punched, leaving the man who punched him alone. pic.twitter.com/drBR7Xum93

— Griffin – Live from Portland (@GriffinMalone6) August 28, 2020

The curious sequence of events began when footage emerged of a man punching a cyclist outside the Republican National Convention in Washington D.C., after US president Donald Trump had just given a speech. It has now emerged that the man who threw the punch was the author, evangelical Christian and conservative radio host Metaxas, who was accused of running away to hide behind police after punching the protestor in the back of the head. 

Now in an interview with Religion Unplugged, Metaxas has claimed the cyclist was behaving in a threatening manner, and his actions were to defend himself and his wife Susanne: “I wanted to get away from him, but I didn’t even know there were cops or anyone nearby, which is what made it all so frightening”, said Metaxas. 

“It was very, very unpleasant.”

Meanwhile, a man who identified himself as the demonstrator in question claims he was not being threatening or intimidating, and Metaxas attacked him: “I was on a rented bicycle! He clearly punched me from behind”, he told Religion News Service. 

Metaxas is no stranger to controversy, causing anger and bewilderment in July when he tweeted that Jesus was white. 

4 September 2020, 09:01

Antiques store cause offence by describing missile attached to van as "anti-cyclist modification"

 

Paul’s anti-cyclist modification to the van proves to be highly effective. If you had a sidewinder missile, where would you like to stick it?

Posted by On The Square Emporium on Thursday, September 3, 2020

It’s not clear if the missile is a large replica or a salvaged genuine military item – or if the van was actually driven with it attached to the side – but in any case some are not amused at the Belfast antiques store seemingly making light of cyclist’ deaths on the roads. 

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Others have seen the funny side, with On the Square Emporium adding in the comments: “Even the buses get out of our way now!”

4 September 2020, 09:01

How to get stiffer, deeper and lower (not a euphemism)

10 Tour de France top tips to sprint like a pro

10 Tour de France top tips to sprint like a pro

Here’s what you can learn from the world’s best sprinters; get ready, get aero, get fast

4 September 2020, 09:01

Full story on yesterday's launch from Cycling UK

Maintenance, local knowledge and tips from new service billed as “AA for cyclists”

Maintenance, local knowledge and tips from new service billed as “AA for cyclists”

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32 thoughts on “Antiques store describe missile attached to van as “anti-cyclist modification”; Police say no group cycling on IM weekend; Disabled cyclist shows TransPennine bike rack flaws; School’s cycling ban due to lack of storage + more on the live blog”

  1. EddyBerckx
    September 4, 2020 at 9:20 am
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    The XR protestors need to get
    The XR protestors need to get pissed, grow beer bellies, add some tattoos, shave their head (if not already bald), make some nazi salutes and throw bottles and punches at the police attending. You can fucking guarantee they wouldn’t go near them with a bargepole

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  2. asbwilson1994
    September 4, 2020 at 9:23 am
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    Lambeth Bridge is at
    Lambeth Bridge is at standstill all day everyday at the moment because of the number of people choosing to use private cars, bikes blocking it have no effect on traffic levels and ease of moving through the highways

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  3. Mungecrundle
    September 4, 2020 at 9:39 am
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    Just look at how many
    Just look at how many bicycles the Police managed to get on that tow vehicle. I expect that they will also take up minimal storage at the car pound. Actually a pretty good advert for one of the many benefits to urban commuting by bicycle.

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  4. brooksby
    September 4, 2020 at 9:40 am
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    Fun article in the Grauniad

    Fun article in the Grauniad about how we all subsidise motor traffic:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/04/treasury-raise-fuel-duty-chancellors-freeze

    Takeaway paragraph:

    … a fuel duty freeze costs real money. Thus far, successive freezes have cost the exchequer well over £100bn. It is not for nothing that David Cameron referred to Robert Halfon, who has run numerous campaigns on the issue, as the “most expensive MP in parliament”.

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    • OnYerBike
      September 4, 2020 at 10:44 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      Fun article in the Grauniad about how we all subsidise motor traffic:

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/04/treasury-raise-fuel-duty-chancellors-freeze

      Takeaway paragraph:

      … a fuel duty freeze costs real money. Thus far, successive freezes have cost the exchequer well over £100bn. It is not for nothing that David Cameron referred to Robert Halfon, who has run numerous campaigns on the issue, as the “most expensive MP in parliament”.

      — brooksby

      I’m generally in favour of a fuel duty rise (although I think that should be a lower priority than more targetted approaches e.g. congestion charging) but I do find the reporting around it odd sometimes.

      Yes revenue from fuel duty would be higher if fuel duty was higher, but the fuel duty escalator in itself was an arbitrary policy – there’s no objectively “correct” value for fuel duty. There’s just one government making decisions that are different to previous governments – something that happens all the time.

      Do we say income tax is “costing” the government money because it could be higher? VAT could be higher, inheritance tax could be higher etc. – the only difference with fuel duty is that previous governments put a number on exactly how much higher they wanted it to be.

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      • dave atkinson
        September 4, 2020 at 11:59 am
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        when fuel duty stays the same

        when fuel duty stays the same it’s always presented by them as a freeze and doing the ‘hard working drivers’ a favour, so the government can’t have it both ways. if you’re freezing it that assumes you were going to raise it, hence you lose money.

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        • brooksby
          September 4, 2020 at 2:43 pm
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          dave atkinson wrote:

          when fuel duty stays the same it’s always presented by them as a freeze and doing the ‘hard working drivers’ a favour, so the government can’t have it both ways. if you’re freezing it that assumes you were going to raise it, hence you lose money.

          — dave atkinson

          Personally, I look forward to the Govt giving a **** about the hard working non-drivers too…

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        • OnYerBike
          September 4, 2020 at 2:46 pm
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          dave atkinson wrote:

          when fuel duty stays the same it’s always presented by them as a freeze and doing the ‘hard working drivers’ a favour, so the government can’t have it both ways. if you’re freezing it that assumes you were going to raise it, hence you lose money.

          — dave atkinson

          I agree that you can’t have it both ways, but I think it’s equally disingenious when the government trots out that line!

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  5. Captain Badger
    September 4, 2020 at 9:47 am
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    “Officers have so far

    “Officers have so far arrested dozens of protesters who blocked Lambeth Bridge”

    If they’d been driving cars no one would have batted an eyelid…

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  6. Zebulebu
    September 4, 2020 at 9:50 am
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    Odd. I didn’t notice much
    Odd. I didn’t notice much coverage of the gavvers nicking taxi drivers when they blocked London Bridge a couple of years ago…. Funny that.

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    • eburtthebike
      September 4, 2020 at 4:10 pm
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      Zebulebu wrote:

      Odd. I didn’t notice much coverage of the gavvers nicking taxi drivers when they blocked London Bridge a couple of years ago…. Funny that.

      — Zebulebu

      XR posted this on fb today, and are claiming that the police action was illegal:

      “WE WANT TO LEAVE
      Last night police kettled peaceful protestors on Lambeth Bridge
      A critical mass cycling around central London was stopped on Lambeth Bridge, police closed the bridge to traffic, disrupting the emergency services, and stopping any pedestrians going on or off the bridge including press. They then arrested over 200 rebels who were trapped on Lambeth Bridge, and took them to a temporary detention centre to be processed, confiscating bicycles and banners in the process. Rebels were advised to chant WE WANT TO LEAVE and film evidence of the event
      We are advised that this was an overstepping of police powers, and was illegal. If you or your friend was on Lambeth Bridge, please contact Extinction Rebellion legal team xr-legal@riseup.net with details, so they can help gather a case against the met police. The last time something like this happened to a critical mass bike ride was in 2012, it was illegal then too, and police had to compensate people. Please share this information, so it gets to those who need it.
      And donate now, to support those arrested, in filing a case against the police
      DONATE NOW
      To support those on Lambeth Bridge and others in the courts:
      https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/extinction-rebellion-legal/
      To support the rebellion to continue:
      https://chuffed.org/project/extinction-rebellion-uk-2020
      WE WANT TO LIVE”
       

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  7. brooksby
    September 4, 2020 at 9:53 am
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    I’ve just seen an car drive

    I’ve just seen an car drive past my office window.

    A normal estate car, with Uber stickers on the doors.

    … and with ‘cyclists don’t pass this vehicle on the inside‘ stickers on the back.

    Discuss 

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    • Hirsute
      September 4, 2020 at 9:59 am
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      Because passengers will open
      Because passengers will open the rear doors without checking. Mind you that would apply to both sides of the car!

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      • wycombewheeler
        September 4, 2020 at 10:22 am
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        hirsute wrote:

        Because passengers will open the rear doors without checking. Mind you that would apply to both sides of the car!

        — hirsute

        If passengers are alighting, the uber should be too close to the kerb for cyclists to pass on the inside. The Grayling manoeuvre should not be the standard method

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        • Hirsute
          September 4, 2020 at 11:43 am
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          Depends which side of the
          Depends which side of the road the car stops or as I discovered on a 2 lane one way once – if the passenger gets out in the middle of the road !

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      • Captain Badger
        September 4, 2020 at 10:29 am
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        I believe that the driver is

        I believe that the driver is responsible for the actions of the passengers in some circumstances – eg whether they are wearing seat belts. I wonder if that principle applies here

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    • Daveyraveygravey
      September 4, 2020 at 12:12 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      I’ve just seen an car drive past my office window.

      A normal estate car, with Uber stickers on the doors.

      … and with ‘cyclists don’t pass this vehicle on the inside‘ stickers on the back.

      Discuss 

      — brooksby

       

      It would be very hard to pass it on the inside – clambering over the seats with your bike, then what happens when you get to the dash/bulkhead/engine?

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      • brooksby
        September 4, 2020 at 12:36 pm
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        Daveyraveygravey wrote:

        I’ve just seen an car drive past my office window.

        A normal estate car, with Uber stickers on the doors.

        … and with ‘cyclists don’t pass this vehicle on the inside‘ stickers on the back.

        Discuss 

        — Daveyraveygravey

        It would be very hard to pass it on the inside – clambering over the seats with your bike, then what happens when you get to the dash/bulkhead/engine?

        — brooksby

        You knew what I meant!

        I suspect that they meant that you shouldn’t pass the vehicle on its left-hand side under any circumstances, because the driver might not see you and suddenly fling the vehicle sideways toward the kerb.  Because everyone knows how bad the visibility is on a standard-sized estate car…

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  8. hawkinspeter
    September 4, 2020 at 10:10 am
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    How can a school ban cycling

    How can a school ban cycling to school? They have no jurisdiction over what happens outside of their property, so if I were a student, I’d be looking at cycling anyway and just locking the bike up outside the school if they insist on not converting some parking space to safe bike storage.

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    • Hirsute
      September 4, 2020 at 11:45 am
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      When this came up before, it
      When this came up before, it was clear they have no powers at all to tell people they can’t ride to school. The nearest anyone got to squaring the circle was around having powers as a highways authority (which they clearly are not).

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      • hawkinspeter
        September 4, 2020 at 12:05 pm
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        It really grinds my gears

        It really grinds my gears when uppity teachers overstep their bounds. I think they suffer from dealing with children and imposing arbitrary rules (e.g. disallowing certain haircuts or hair colours) so much that they get confused about how the real world works and their place in it.

        That said, I actually believe that teaching should be elevated as a profession and we should be pumping a lot more money into education in order to invest in the country’s future. Currently, if you become expert in a field (e.g. computers; economics) then teaching will be at the bottom of your career trajectory whereas we should be looking to encourage the more competent into those kinds of teaching roles. Hopefully, this will also push out the control freaks who wish to prevent kids from cycling.

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        • Sriracha
          September 4, 2020 at 1:20 pm
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          hawkinspeter wrote:

          Currently, if you become expert in a field (e.g. computers; economics) then teaching will be at the bottom of your career trajectory whereas we should be looking to encourage the more competent into those kinds of teaching roles.

          — hawkinspeter

          I appreciate the sentiment, however being an expert in one’s field does not make you an expert at teaching – it’s a whole different skill set. And therein lies the difficulty; to be a decent teacher you need mastery of your subject, which already opens its own career opportunities, then you need to upskill in a whole new field of expertise – teaching – just to take a pay cut.

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          • brooksby
            September 4, 2020 at 1:25 pm
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            OTOH teachers have a hell of

            OTOH teachers have a hell of a powerful union, guaranteed annual pay rises, and – oh, yes! – the holidays!! 😉

          • Hirsute
            September 4, 2020 at 1:33 pm
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            The holidays bit was tongue
            The holidays bit was tongue in cheek I take it.
            I do know someone who worked in IT in a senior position but is now an ICT teacher. Although as Sriracha outlines, my friend is a bit of an anomaly.

          • IanGlasgow
            September 5, 2020 at 4:40 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            OTOH teachers have a hell of a powerful union, guaranteed annual pay rises, and – oh, yes! – the holidays!! 😉

            — brooksby

            As a teacher I can confirm that my “very powerful union” finally managed to negotiate a three year pay deal which dones’t even come close to replacing the real terms pay cuts we’ve suffered for over a decade.
            Add to that my pension contributions have increased twice, my retirement age has been increased, my final pension has been decreased – all of which occurred after a government commissioned report which concluded that the pension scheme was sustainable without making any changes.

            Maybe you’re referring to teachers in some other country. Are you in Finland?

          • hawkinspeter
            September 4, 2020 at 1:42 pm
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            Sriracha wrote:

            I appreciate the sentiment, however being an expert in one’s field does not make you an expert at teaching – it’s a whole different skill set. And therein lies the difficulty; to be a decent teacher you need mastery of your subject, which already opens its own career opportunities, then you need to upskill in a whole new field of expertise – teaching – just to take a pay cut.

            — Sriracha

            You’re totally right. I consider myself good at what I do, but I have no patience for instructing other people and would suck at being a teacher.

            I’d like to see teaching as a profession to be considered at a similar level to being a doctor or engineer and people shouldn’t have to reduce their pay to become a teacher. The big problem is that our political system favours short term thinking and not planning for the long term.

          • mdavidford
            September 4, 2020 at 3:19 pm
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            Sriracha wrote:

            Currently, if you become expert in a field (e.g. computers; economics) then teaching will be at the bottom of your career trajectory whereas we should be looking to encourage the more competent into those kinds of teaching roles.

            — Sriracha

            I appreciate the sentiment, however being an expert in one’s field does not make you an expert at teaching – it’s a whole different skill set. And therein lies the difficulty; to be a decent teacher you need mastery of your subject, which already opens its own career opportunities, then you need to upskill in a whole new field of expertise – teaching – just to take a pay cut.

            — hawkinspeter

            Mostly agree, but you need a reasonable amount of competency in the field – not necessarily mastery of it. Some of the best teachers I had were those who were prepared to admit the limits of what they knew, to explore those limits, and to learn along with the students.

  9. Captain Badger
    September 4, 2020 at 1:52 pm
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    Sick to death of “Health and

    Sick to death of “Health and Safety” being used to excuse bad behaviour of those in authority. H&S 1974 is one of the greatest pieces of legislation produced by a british govt, and is a template for similar legislation the world over. It does not tell a headteacher that younger students aren’t allowed to ride to school.

    FFS!

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    • Hirsute
      September 4, 2020 at 3:05 pm
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      You know things are ill-used
      You know things are ill-used when the H&S website has to have a special page of myth busters given as h&s when they are nothing of the sort !

      The best one was when my wife was told certain shoes were banned in the office. So she pointed them to case 34 on the HSE site !

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  10. bobrayner
    September 4, 2020 at 5:01 pm
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    If schools don’t teach

    If schools don’t teach children to cope with bureaucratic jobsworths who get a kick out of banning harmless things (or mandating useless things), are they really preparing children for adult life?

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  11. HeidiR17
    September 4, 2020 at 5:27 pm
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    Re XR arrests on Lambeth

    Re XR arrests on Lambeth Bridge: can confirm that 200 cyclists were arrested, that most cyclists would have moved off the bridge if the police had let them but were prevented by a police kettle. If the emergency services had wanted to use the bridge, we would have moved (during the critical mass cycle that lead up to the arrests, the whole of the cycle group moved to allow an ambulance and a motorcyclist with donor blood to pass). The Met’s claims of ‘dozens’ is a severe underestimate, and the claim that they were removing a disruption is equally disingenous (they were causing a greater disruption by kettling and preventing cyclists from leaving; then claimed that the cyclists were obstructing the highway, refusing to move and therefore arrested them and confiscated their cycles)

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  12. David9694
    September 4, 2020 at 9:37 pm
    0

    Steeley eyed missile man –

    Steeley eyed missile man – isn’t there something in the law you know about carrying weapons or what look like weapons – in N. Ireland of all places?

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New Domane+ SL is Trek’s longest-range e-bike ever, and its lightest too, with models from 11.1kg; Trek also unveils Inbound+ urban e-bike and a new e-bike-certified Charge WaveCel helmet with integrated daytime lighting
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Hire e-bikes to feature ‘number plates’ to clamp down on dangerous cycling and ‘problematic’ parking – and ban repeat offenders
Hire e-bikes to feature ‘number plates’ to clamp down on dangerous cycling and ‘problematic’ parking – and ban repeat offenders
ID codes used to unlock Forest's e-bikes are being rolled out in Richmond, though Forest declined to confirm if the policy is a trial or permanent
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‘E-bike’ riders 41% more likely to suffer head injuries than other cyclists due to “lethal combination” of lack of helmets and alcohol – but cycling campaigners say hospital stats include fast illegal bikes
‘E-bike’ riders 41% more likely to suffer head injuries than other cyclists due to “lethal combination” of lack of helmets and alcohol – but cycling campaigners say hospital stats include fast illegal bikes
“E-bikes have been a total game changer… But this comes at a cost. London infrastructure is not set up to deal with the volume of bikes we are currently seeing,” said one of the new study’s authors
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“Making America Beautiful Again”: New Trump order could open up National Parks for e-bikers, Lime hits 1 million journeys in the West Mids + more
“Making America Beautiful Again”: New Trump order could open up National Parks for e-bikers, Lime hits 1 million journeys in the West Mids + more
Could Trump be making things better for US e-bikers? Plus versatile eMTB frame proposal, 1 million Lime trips in West Midlands, and more.
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The best-looking e-bike conversion kit yet? A first ride on the stealthy new DUO Wheel system
The best-looking e-bike conversion kit yet? A first ride on the stealthy new DUO Wheel system
Why spend thousands on another bike when you can get the assistance you need on the bike you already have? The new DUO Wheel System promises just that, without the bulk of other conversion kits
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Global Nomad 3 hours ago

trying to sell an expensive product to do an unnecessary thing......cleaning a chain of factory lubricant, fine.....between waxing completely unnecessary...misleading product name, jumping on waxing now its gone more mainstream

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jaymack 3 hours ago

Twenty-two quid? Thank heavens it also cleans based lubricants!

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Defblade 4 hours ago

@froze "Really better wheels are only really necessary if you’re doing some sort of competition riding, otherwise who cares if you save a few watts?" It's also helped me re-kindle a bit of joy and expectation in outdoor riding - my local rides were getting stale, and I was Zwifting more often than going out; new wheels has given me a new reason to go out and ride my loops... a new bike would do the same, but cost a lot more! "The more important thing for just daily riding is whether the wheels can hold up to pounding on the streets, hitting potholes, cracked streets, surviving long rides on chip and seal etc, which is why I don’t have any race type of wheels." I chose the "all-road" variety for just this reason; along with no maximum weight limit - I'm a little over 100kg plus cheap (ie, relatively heavy) bike. Race wheels they are not. Noticeably better than the alloy ones that came on my bike? Yes. "People who don’t race need to use some common sense and not try to impress some wealthy lawyer or engineer riding buddy, save your money and pay off debts instead…I know, that’s not fun, but it is wise." No mortgage, no credit card balance, savings growing, pension up-to-date, car bought/owned outright, phone bought/owned outright, etc etc And I pretty much always ride on my own - the only person who sees my bike regularly is my wife and she cares less than zero about it! A good idea to find out about your audience before dispensing advice ;) I do try to avoid buying unnamed Chinese stuff though, for absolutely all the reasons you've listed, plus environmental concerns and worker H&S/rights/etc concerns, too.

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mdavidford 5 hours ago

You get seal where you are? You don't know you're born!

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Bmblbzzz 5 hours ago

The Right to Roam campaign aims to secure rights in England and Wales that Scotland has taken for granted for decades (and most of Scandinavia for millennia). The campaign is focused on access by foot rather than bike, but the Enclosure Acts are indeed villains of history.

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froze 5 hours ago

I have problems with buying Chinese made products, one is they have no recourse if you have a warranty issue, or the wheel fails and you get seriously injured due to product failure you have no rights to sue for personal injury or property damage. A lot of stuff they make are Western brand wheels that they make after hours and slap on a generic name, so they are a stolen product and stolen engineering, call it stolen intellectual property and patents, but while Western companies know this is happening, they are powerless to stop it. Then there are political concerns which I won't go into but if people stop and think they should know what I'm talking about. As far as buying expensive wheels for a cheap bike will depend on if in the near future there are plans to buy a better bike, if not, then don't buy better wheels. Really better wheels are only really necessary if you're doing some sort of competition riding, otherwise who cares if you save a few watts? The more important thing for just daily riding is whether the wheels can hold up to pounding on the streets, hitting potholes, cracked streets, surviving long rides on chip and seal etc, which is why I don't have any race type of wheels. Even professionals don't use their high-end racing wheels, or bikes for their training rides! For the common person most bikes come with wheels that are designed to hold up to street riding for a long time. People who don't race need to use some common sense and not try to impress some wealthy lawyer or engineer riding buddy, save your money and pay off debts instead...I know, that's not fun, but it is wise.

in: Chinese carbon wheels transformed my cheap bike… but are they really worth it?
lesterama 10 hours ago

Woah. Deja deja vu.

in: “The problem is fear”: Cyclists sound warning over bikejackers on illegal bikes intimidating riders in Richmond Park
lesterama 10 hours ago

Woah! Deja vu.

in: “The problem is fear”: Cyclists sound warning over bikejackers on illegal bikes intimidating riders in Richmond Park
lesterama 10 hours ago

Just imagine how much great hiking and mountain-biking there would be if we hadn't had the Enclosure Acts! (Not to mention grazing, coppicing etc.)

in: Every off-road rider should know the law around rights of way
lesterama 10 hours ago

Why? Are you a vandal?

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