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2024 World Championships crash
2024 World Championships crash (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

“I have a problem with that”: Retiring pro cyclist calls out riders who “don’t care” if they crash and make races “so dangerous” by braking late and “cutting everyone off” + more on the live blog

Welcome back to our live blog as the Vuelta countdown continues… unfortunately you’ll have to wait until the weekend for that to get underway but Dan Alexander will be keeping you up to date with all the other goings on in the cycling world today
  • by Dan Alexander
Mon, Aug 18, 2025 08:14
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SUMMARY

  • Weekend round-up: A legend retires, a multi-material prototype, big claims about wheels, and our review of the Tarmac SL8 Expert
  • Transport for London to roll out new Santander Cycles app following complaints from users
  • Final Transcontinental finisher completes continent-crossing epic with just 25 minutes to spare
  • "As lucky as I have been to do this job, it also has its downsides... cycling is a ludicrously dangerous sport": Mike Woods also announces his retirement
  • Illi Gardner obliterates Mount Washington QOM
  • Kidical Mass crowdfunds for its insurance
  • Hookless road rims: "Maybe scam was a bit strong, but I want it to go away. If you're on it, be super-careful," says Silca boss
  • Cycling UK unveils new multi-day Chiltern Hills "adventure route"
  • "Car moved towards cyclists causing several to be dismounted," police say – after two riders seriously injured when driver crashed into group ride during botched overtake
  • Try British 'gravel'...
  • "We would encourage members of the public to continue to submit their footage to Operation Snap, since we are still likely to be able to take action..."
  • Returning Edinburgh bike hire scheme to be run by Voi
  • "What if he takes ten riders down with him? I have a problem with that": Retiring pro cyclist calls out riders who "don't care" if they crash and make races "so dangerous" by braking late and "cutting everyone off" when cornering
2024 World Championships crash
2024 World Championships crash (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
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18 August 2025, 08:14

Weekend round-up: A legend retires, a multi-material prototype, big claims about wheels, and our review of the Tarmac SL8 Expert

So, what did you miss this weekend if you were (quite understandably) not spending your weekend online? Well, road.cc Podcast favourite Rory Townsend shocked the world with his first WorldTour win, defying many of the world’s best sprinters to take a famous breakaway win in Hamburg. In fact, it was Q36.5’s first WorldTour win as well… sorry, Tom P, Rory’s beaten you to that one…

“It’s crazy,” a stunned Townsend said afterwards. “It’s just pure disbelief as you could see on my face when I crossed the line. I am still in shock. This is an incredibly proud moment. Winning a World Tour race, any race in my national colours is great.”

> Tom Pidcock’s new teammate Rory Townsend on how “maverick” Olympic champ has lifted Q36.5

It was a bit harsh of TNT to call this a DNF though…

❌ DNF for Rory Townsend in the second race of the day 🍻😂 pic.twitter.com/N8NGnJAflH

— Cycling on TNT Sports (@cyclingontnt) August 17, 2025

Elsewhere this weekend, once the tracker farce passed there was also some racing at the women’s Tour de Romandie, Elise Chabbey seizing the overall victory from Urška Žigart on the final stage. Having lost contact, the Slovenian made a bad mistake on a descent, in the end missing out by an incredibly tight (and frustrating) margin of just seven seconds. Unfortunately, the race will undoubtedly be remembered for the tracker disqualifications more than the racing itself.

This weekend also saw mountain biking’s most successful athlete Nino Schurter announce his retirement. Our pals at off.road.cc have all the details about that one…

2025 nino schurter 3
2025 nino schurter 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2025 nino schurter 3
2025 nino schurter 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> With 10 World Champion titles, nine World Cup titles, 36 World Cup wins and three Cape Epic wins, Nino Schurter announces retirement

Away from the world of racing, our Bike at Bedtime is “designed, engineered, and made in the UK. Properly.” You can check out Mat’s deep dive into Field Cycles’ multi-material prototype here, while there’s a link to our Tech of the Week round-up (and some very big claims about a new set of wheels) here.

Bike at Bedtime Field Cycles
Bike at Bedtime Field Cycles (Image Credit: Field Cycles)
Bike at Bedtime Field Cycles
Bike at Bedtime Field Cycles (Image Credit: Field Cycles)

Oh, and if you want to get your teeth into a review, Stu’s written up his thoughts on the Specialized Tarmac SL8 Expert, the TLDR summary a “stunning frameset and ride quality, hampered by the tyre choice”. The full review and all-important rating out of 10 is here.

18 August 2025, 08:14

Transport for London to roll out new Santander Cycles app following complaints from users

Hire bikes - Santander Cycles © Simon MacMichael.jpg
Hire bikes - Santander Cycles © Simon MacMichael (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Hire bikes - Santander Cycles © Simon MacMichael.jpg
Hire bikes – Santander Cycles © Simon MacMichael (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Transport for London (TfL) says a “new and improved” app for hiring Santander Cycles is coming next year, that following complaints from users about issues and bugs. A software issue earlier in August meant nobody was able to hire bikes for several hours, TfL’s head of cycle hire David Eddington hoping the new app will be “more reliable”.

The BBC noted the app is currently rated 1.2 stars on the Google Play Store and 3.7 on Apple’s App Store, TfL suggesting a “new and improved” app will be available next year.

18 August 2025, 08:14

Final Transcontinental finisher completes continent-crossing epic with just 25 minutes to spare

 
 
 
 
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 James Illman was this year’s final Transcontinental finisher, completing his pilgrimage across Europe in 18 days, four hours and 35 minutes, just 25 minutes before the cut-off. That final cut-off had been extended by an hour due to changes to the finish parcours but James reached the finish just before 2am local time on Friday.

Apparently the bulk of the finishers’ party had drifted away but the event’s organisers said a loyal crowd had remained to welcome him, including race winner Victor Bosoni, there “to greet the last GC rider in a moment of mutual admiration”.

18 August 2025, 08:14

"As lucky as I have been to do this job, it also has its downsides... cycling is a ludicrously dangerous sport": Mike Woods also announces his retirement

2023 Tour de France Michael Woods © SWpix.com (t-a Photography Hub Ltd) - 1
2023 Tour de France Michael Woods © SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2023 Tour de France Michael Woods © SWpix.com (t-a Photography Hub Ltd) - 1
2023 Tour de France Michael Woods © SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

It’s turning into the ‘pro cyclists announce their retirement and cite how dangerous cycling is’ live blog today, Mike Woods now also confirming that this is his last season as a pro. The Canadian, who won three stages of La Vuelta, a Tour stage and came second at Liège–Bastogne–Liège and third at the World Championships, has penned a lengthy blog post explaining the decision.

“Almost every time I race a bike, there is a point where I am flying along in a line of riders at 70 km/h, and I think, ‘A million years ago, we were monkeys’,” Woods began. “Even if you dropped somebody from 100 years ago into the modern peloton, they would be so confused about what is going on.

Michael Woods wins on the Puy de Dôme, stage nine, 2023 Tour de France (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Michael Woods wins on the Puy de Dôme, stage nine, 2023 Tour de France (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“This sport is crazy, and has morphed into something so far from our original purpose as animals that anyone not born in the past century would not understand it. Every time I do a race, I feel an immense sense of luck to be doing it, as it is truly a pure luxury constructed by our own creativity. Riding around France, while literally billions of people watch, is my job, and that is nuts. What puts food on my table and a roof over my head has been riding a bike 30,000–35,000 km every year across all parts of the globe — for the entertainment of others.”

Like Tim Declercq’s comments earlier on today’s live blog, the climber went on to highlight the risks that come with a career in professional cycling.

“As lucky as I have been to do this job, it also has its downsides,” Woods continued. “I have highlighted over the Tour, in this blog, that cycling is a ludicrously dangerous sport.

“I once asked staff on my team: how much would they have to be paid, to drive around in a car at 50 km/h, 70 days a year, for 4-5 hours per day, in a T-shirt and shorts, and twice per year — with no control over when or where — they would be pushed out of the car? Statistically, that is roughly how many times the average pro rider crashes per season. Not one of the staff said less than 500k, and when I asked how many years they would do it, not one said more than two. I am now 11 years deep into doing this sport as a profession, and another two as an amateur. The toll it has taken on my health has been significant, and the time I have spent away from my family has been long.

Michael Woods
Michael Woods (Image Credit: A.S.O./Billy Ceusters)
Michael Woods
Michael Woods (Image Credit: A.S.O./Billy Ceusters)

“Being a father, in particular, has shown me how at odds being one of the best riders in the world is with being a good dad. Unlike most sports, pro cycling, due to its extensive calendar, is a job that requires unending commitment. For the past five years, I have avoided giving my kids kisses when I pick them up from school in an attempt to prevent getting sick before a race. That is strange. More often than not, I sleep in another room, separate from my family, in an effort to optimise my sleep. Every aspect of my life has been examined and studied to maximise my ability to ride a bike. That all-encompassing pursuit I have loved and have no regrets doing, but it is something that can only be sustained for so long.

“As they say, though, all good things must come to an end. I still have big ambitions and plans for the coming years that will involve exploring new arenas in endurance sports (I’ve got some epic plans, so stay tuned for these). But, for the reasons mentioned above, I have made the decision to retire from professional road cycling at the end of this season.”

18 August 2025, 08:14

Illi Gardner obliterates Mount Washington QOM

Illi Gardner Mount Washington
Illi Gardner Mount Washington (Image Credit: Strava)
Illi Gardner Mount Washington
Illi Gardner Mount Washington (Image Credit: Strava)

Shout out to Miller in the comments who spotted Illi Gardner’s latest ridiculous climbing achievement on Strava this weekend. Not content with smashing every QOM in Europe, the Illi Gardner world tour is now ticking off the North American ones too.

 

Mount Washington in New Hampshire is the latest monster climb added to the list, Gardner taming its 12km at 12% savagery in under an hour. Two and a half minutes under an hour, in fact, her time the 27th fastest on Strava and by far the leader of the QOM standings, six minutes clear of the second fastest female time.

The time was set during the famous Mount Washington Hill Climb, dubbed one of the hardest hill climbs in the world. In the men’s event, former WorldTour pro Ian Boswell set a new men’s record of 50:18.

18 August 2025, 08:14

Kidical Mass crowdfunds for its insurance

Another comments section shout-out goes to Hirsute for sharing the link to Kidical Mass’s crowdfunder raising money for its insurance for 2025-26. It’s currently at £545 of its £2,522 target, Kidical Mass saying it would ensure funding for its public liability and cover for all volunteers for September 2025 to August 2026.

The UK group’s rides are part of the growing worldwide movement calling for children and young people to be able to safely and independently travel by bike, regardless of where they live. Kidical Mass rides are family friendly community events where everyone gets to enjoy the pleasure of riding a bike without fear of road danger.

The link to Kidical Mass’s page is here if you want more info… last year Kidical Mass successfully raised the full amount required to cover its insurance costs.

18 August 2025, 08:14

Hookless road rims: "Maybe scam was a bit strong, but I want it to go away. If you're on it, be super-careful," says Silca boss

Hookless rim Fast FWD - 1
Hookless rim Fast FWD - 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Hookless rim Fast FWD - 1
Hookless rim Fast FWD – 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Hookless road rims: “Maybe scam was a bit strong, but I want it to go away. If you’re on it, be super-careful,” says Silca boss

18 August 2025, 08:14

18 August 2025, 08:14

Cycling UK unveils new multi-day Chiltern Hills "adventure route"

The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)
The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)

Bored of riding the same old roads and trails? Cycling UK, the charity behind other routes such as King Alfred’s Way, the Rebellion Way and Traws Eryri, has now added another to its ‘Adventure Route Series’.

The Royal Chilterns Way joins the rest in Cycling UK’s newly unveiled ‘Adventure Route Series’ of long-distance bikepacking trips through the British countryside, promoting domestic tourism and an “affordable and healthy way to explore the country”.

Marking the announcement of the series, Cycling UK has unveiled a brand-new route for riders to explore, beginning in Reading. Named the Royal Chilterns Way, the route covers 282km/175-miles of off-road track through the Chilterns, blending scenic trails and historic landmarks. With a total 11,100ft / 3,383m in climbing, the route “offers competent riders a challenge”.

The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)
The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)
The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)
The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)

It’s designed to be enjoyed over several days, but there’s nothing to say you couldn’t smash it out in one epic day (and probably some night) out, Cycling UK keen to point out the route is served by two London Underground stations and multiple railway stations.

The 282km route consists of three loops that intersect, so they also explained that riders could easily take on some of it if the full distance seems daunting.

Each route in Cycling UK’s adventure series is designed for a long weekend escape – spanning 250 to 300 kilometres (150 to 190 miles), with it being accessible by train, so riders can easily enjoy our National Landscapes without the need for a car. Built for competent cyclists using gravel, cyclocross or mountain bikes, routes “link quiet roads, scenic trails and places to rest and refuel”. Routes are free to download from the Cycling UK website as a GPX file.

The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)
The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)
The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)
The Royal Chilterns Way
The Royal Chilterns Way (Image Credit: Cycling UK)

Max Darkins, a ride guide and the route’s planner, said: “Growing up in the Chilterns sparked my passion for cycling and inspired a lifelong love of the area and exploring the country by bike. This lesser-known part of the south-east has so much to offer and in working closely with Cycling UK we have carefully crafted a route that would give people the chance to escape and connect with nature.

“Out on the trail you get to experience everything that the Chilterns has to offer, ranging from verdant landscapes to historic market towns, medieval earthworks and majestic rivers. What also excites us about this route is that it connects numerous local businesses, from farm shops and cafés to vineyards, pubs, and a wide range of unique accommodation. We all known how much cycling can improve our physical and mental health, and with every new route launched, we make that accessible to more people.”

18 August 2025, 08:14

"Car moved towards cyclists causing several to be dismounted," police say – after two riders seriously injured when driver crashed into group ride during botched overtake

West Yorkshire Police Can You Help poster
West Yorkshire Police Can You Help poster (Image Credit: West Yorkshire Police)
West Yorkshire Police Can You Help poster
West Yorkshire Police Can You Help poster (Image Credit: West Yorkshire Police)

> “Car moved towards cyclists causing several to be dismounted,” police say – after two riders seriously injured when driver crashed into group ride during botched overtake

18 August 2025, 08:14

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18 August 2025, 08:14

"We would encourage members of the public to continue to submit their footage to Operation Snap, since we are still likely to be able to take action..."

Close pass on cyclists during training ride, County Down
Close pass on cyclists during training ride, County Down (Image Credit: Twitter: @CyclingDown))
Close pass on cyclists during training ride, County Down
Close pass on cyclists during training ride, County Down (Image Credit: Twitter: @CyclingDown))

The summer has seen a long-running saga around camera reporting in Wales, you’ve probably read all about it by now. The short version is that GoSafe Wales said it was suspending taking action on close pass footage due to national guidance, only for the National Police Chiefs’ Council (the source of said ‘guidance’) to insist there’s no reason for police in Wales to stop taking action on cyclists’ close pass videos.

> National Police Chiefs’ Council insists there’s no reason for police in Wales to stop taking action on cyclists’ close pass videos

Anyway, many of you have been in touch since with your own experiences reporting footage, road.cc reader James asking the North Wales Police and Crime Commissioner for their thoughts. Andrew Dunbobbin, the police chief in question, spoke with the head of GoSafe in Wales and received the following reply, essentially backing up everything we knew so far — not much has actually changed.

Operation Snap remains a crucial service as we work towards our main objective of making Welsh roads safer. Recently circulated guidance from the NPCC outlined that forensic analysis of speed or distance would need to be carried out by a level 3 trained forensic specialist under ISO 17025, who must be specifically competent in the Forensic Science Activities being undertaken. GoSafe personnel do not hold this specialist forensic accreditation and are also aware that there is no specific offence of ‘close pass’.
 
However, we would encourage members of the public to continue to submit their footage to Operation Snap, since we are still likely to be able to take action, where there is corroborating evidence, or an aggravating factor present.
 
In real terms, what this means is that if all that is being submitted is a video of a ‘close pass’ type situation, then it is unlikely that we will be able to take action. However, where there are aggravating factors, such as clear evidence on the submitted footage, that the submitter, or any other road user has had to alter their path or speed to avoid a collision, due to the actions of the offending road user, we are still likely to be able to take action.

Alternatively, if the submitter is able to provide corroboration in their statement which accompanies the submission, such as a real terms description of how close the vehicle got to them, (i.e. the vehicle’s wing mirror brushed my hand, or they were closer to me than a length of A4 paper) we again are still likely to be able to take action.  

The reality is, in such circumstances the offence is likely to be one of careless or inconsiderate driving, or in extreme cases dangerous driving, and where the evidence submitted meets the prosecution threshold, we will still look to take action.

So there we have the latest. It all really does make you wonder why GoSafe Wales made a big song and dance about ‘suspending’ close pass action when they could have just explained it like this two months ago… 

18 August 2025, 08:14

Returning Edinburgh bike hire scheme to be run by Voi

Victoria St (via City of Edinburgh Counccil on Twitter)
Victoria St (via City of Edinburgh Counccil on Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Victoria St (via City of Edinburgh Counccil on Twitter)
Victoria St (via City of Edinburgh Counccil on Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Edinburgh will have hire bikes back on its streets in the near future, the council announcing that Voi has won the contract to run its cycle hire scheme from Friday 22 August. Lime and Dott had been considered but Voi has ultimately been chosen, the scheme set to see dockless bikes available to residents and visitors without the need for docking stations.

It’s a return for cycle hire in the Scottish capital, the city having previously had Just Eat Cycles, but vandalism and losses saw the operator pull the plug a few years ago.

Edinburgh’s transport chief, Labour councillor Stephen Jenkinson commented: “I’m delighted that we’ve reached this key milestone to deliver a new cycle hire scheme for Edinburgh. Voi brings a wealth of experience in this field, operating across the UK and internationally, and I’m very excited to see how the scheme will progress here in the capital. We’ll be launching the scheme later this week before expanding across the city through the autumn.

“My thanks also go to council colleagues who have been able to turn around this vital scheme for our city quickly and efficiently. From allowing our residents and visitors a new way to travel around the city, through to cutting congestion, pollution and beyond – the scheme will bring a host of benefits to Edinburgh.”

18 August 2025, 08:14

"What if he takes ten riders down with him? I have a problem with that": Retiring pro cyclist calls out riders who "don't care" if they crash and make races "so dangerous" by braking late and "cutting everyone off" when cornering

2025 Giro d'Italia crash
2025 Giro d'Italia crash (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
2025 Giro d'Italia crash
2025 Giro d'Italia crash (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Domestique extraordinaire Tim Declercq has confirmed this is his final season as a professional cyclist, one of the peloton’s most respected teammates stepping away from the sport after a 14-year career that has seen him set up countless victories for his Soudal Quick-Step and Lidl-Trek teammates. 

Speaking to Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad about the decision, Declercq was honest about his views on the sport these days, saying it has become “so dangerous” and that as a parent “you see it differently”.

It comes at the end of a week when 21-year-old Alpecin-Deceuninck rider Louis Kitzki walked away from cycling and cited fears about his safety following a string of fatal crashes for his decision.

Declercq, who rode the Tour de France five times and was a mainstay in Soudal Quick-Step’s successful classics team for the best part of a decade, admitted he doesn’t “dare take the risks I used to”. The 36-year-old also called out riding by some in the peloton who he believes create danger for others by braking late and cutting people up when cornering.

Crash, stage seven, 2025 Tour de France
Crash, stage seven, 2025 Tour de France (Image Credit: ASO)
Crash, stage seven, 2025 Tour de France
Crash, stage seven, 2025 Tour de France (Image Credit: ASO)

“Danger plays a significant role in my racing, and you can’t race when you’re scared,” he explained. “I don’t want to overstate it, but as an experienced rider, I’m very aware of how dangerous it all is. As a parent of two children, you see it differently. While I see the opposite with many riders. They ride around thinking: ‘I don’t care if I crash’. Right now, I can afford to name a few. Matej Mohorič is a rider who — like everyone else — tries to race as economically as possible. Completely understandable. But he does this by braking as late as possible in the corners, cutting everyone off. That causes crashes. Not his own, but the riders behind him.

“After the final stage of this year’s Tour, he literally said: ‘I gave it my all on the descent from Montmartre; I didn’t care whether I was just sitting at the table that evening or lying in the hospital’. Everyone thinks those are great statements, but what if he takes ten other riders down with him in his crash? I have a problem with that. In the Scheldeprijs, Warre Vangheluwe broke a vertebra in a crash I was involved in. It wasn’t my fault, but it still bothers me.”

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Declercq reflected that he probably wouldn’t recommend cycling as a sport for his children due to the danger involved, something he says is “a shame, because cycling is a wonderful sport that teaches you so many valuable things as a person”.

Regardless, the Belgian is “definitely not quitting with a bitter feeling” and pointed to the friendships he’d made along the way, adding that “racing is full of good guys”.

“We lived through the good old days, when young riders could still enjoy being young,” he reflected. “Compared to the young guys now, we knew nothing. We’d train on water only and then have to recover for two days. But we were able to study, get a degree, and even enjoy a beer every now and then. That’s not really possible for young riders these days. The top riders get paid very well right away, but there’s a big downside socially.”

18 August 2025, 08:14

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24 thoughts on ““I have a problem with that”: Retiring pro cyclist calls out riders who “don’t care” if they crash and make races “so dangerous” by braking late and “cutting everyone off” + more on the live blog”

  1. Mr Anderson
    August 18, 2025 at 9:03 am
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    If the UCI want to reduce
    If the UCI want to reduce racing speed, they need to ban disc brakes, set a maximum tyre width of 23mm and set a maximum gear ratio of 108 inches. Let’s go retro!!

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    • Rendel Harris
      August 18, 2025 at 9:39 am
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      Mr Anderson wrote:

      If the UCI want to reduce racing speed, they need to ban disc brakes, set a maximum tyre width of 23mm and set a maximum gear ratio of 108 inches. Let’s go retro!!

      — Mr Anderson

      It would reduce racing speed on the flat but if you’re looking to improve safety, particularly on descents, I’m not sure that reintroducing less powerful worse modulated braking and less stable tyres with worse grip is going to improve things a great deal.

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      • Paul J
        August 18, 2025 at 10:38 am
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        Less powerful brakes mean

        Less powerful brakes mean braking has to occur over longer distances, with lower decelleration, with longer times.

        I ride both modern bikes with hydro disc brakes, and ancient vintage ones with flimsy pressed-plate calipers and cork pads. The former brakes incredibly hard (especially if you have front suspension, as MTBs and some gravel bikes now have – my gravel bike does), with amazing control. The latter brakes incredibly poorly.

        I’ve ridden both down twisty descents, and the risk level is bizarelly the same. The difference is you have to start braking over twice as early with the vintage one. Which means your average speed is lower on the vintage bike, and often that means lower top speeds if you have to brake before reaching terminal speed (and my vintage bike’s 80s campagnolo hubs are actually still /very/ fast – faster than most of my modern wheels; incredibly well engineered).

        I don’t automatically buy that ultra-powerful modern disc brakes are better for safety. I don’t automatically believe old brakes would be better either – I’m undecided. I can see reasons both ways. 

        I /do/ think modern brakes allow greater speeds approaching corners, through much later braking, though. Which may sometimes reduce available reaction times in bunches.

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        • S.E.
          August 18, 2025 at 10:51 am
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          Also disc brakes can be

          Also disc brakes can be dangerous in emergency situations, when the reaction is more “binary” than usual (i.e. brake ASAP!), because they it make it too easy to lock the wheels.

          It’s less of a problem for MTB where these systems were first adopted, because they usually ride on single tracks, not in large groups, and can prepare for every braking in advance, by looking at the terrain.

          All other vehicles on the road have ABS…

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        • Coolkitty
          August 18, 2025 at 1:33 pm
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          After reading this I m
          After reading this I m sticking with my old Dawes 😉

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      • Steve K
        August 18, 2025 at 11:00 am
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        Rendel Harris wrote:

        If the UCI want to reduce racing speed, they need to ban disc brakes, set a maximum tyre width of 23mm and set a maximum gear ratio of 108 inches. Let’s go retro!!

        — Rendel Harris

        It would reduce racing speed on the flat but if you’re looking to improve safety, particularly on descents, I’m not sure that reintroducing less powerful worse modulated braking and less stable tyres with worse grip is going to improve things a great deal.— Mr Anderson

        Is it the spike sticking out of the steering wheel equivalent, though?

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        • Rendel Harris
          August 18, 2025 at 11:25 am
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          Steve K wrote:

          Is it the spike sticking out of the steering wheel equivalent, though?

          — Steve K

          Yes, I guess it is but the trouble is we’re talking about racers here and you can’t guarantee that their thought processes will be the same as those of a logical person. As Mark Cavendish once said when questioned about the insane speed of the peloton when descending in the rain towards (I think) Nice, “Yeah, you know that voice in your head that tells you don’t do this, it’s too dangerous? We don’t have that.”

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          • JMcL_Ireland
            August 18, 2025 at 12:16 pm
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            I think this is quite common

            I think this is quite common in top sports people where danger is a significant factor. 

            I remember long ago reading an article about F1 drivers, I’m pretty sure it was Damon Hill in particular, saying exactly the same thing about there not being that risk averse switch in the brain (he admitted it)

      • Bigfoz
        August 18, 2025 at 3:18 pm
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        [quote=I’m not sure that
        [quote=I’m not sure that reintroducing less powerful worse modulated braking and less stable tyres with worse grip is going to improve things a great deal.

        [/quote]

        My observation is that anyone going do3n a hill with crap brakes, tends to go slower, brake earlier – both of which would greatly enhance rider safety. Let’s face it, was Sean Kelly’s descent of the Poggio on 20mm tubs and mvic sidepulls less amazing and exciting than Mohoric’s or Nibali’s on disc brakes, wider tyres et al?

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        • HLaB
          August 18, 2025 at 3:28 pm
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          A normal person perhaps, but

          A normal person perhaps, but IIRC the fastest descent in the Tour de France is still one recorded with rim brakes.

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          • Backladder
            August 18, 2025 at 6:47 pm
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            HLaB wrote:

            A normal person perhaps, but IIRC the fastest descent in the Tour de France is still one recorded with rim brakes.

            — HLaB

            Its just basic physics, if your brakes are less effective you will go downhill faster 😉

        • Rendel Harris
          August 18, 2025 at 7:10 pm
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          Bigfoz wrote:

          Let’s face it, was Sean Kelly’s descent of the Poggio on 20mm tubs and mvic sidepulls less amazing and exciting than Mohoric’s or Nibali’s on disc brakes, wider tyres et al?

          — Bigfoz

          It most certainly was not! But was it actually any safer? Pros are always going to ride on the absolute frontier of safety with whatever they’ve got. My personal opinion is that a lot of the crash problem in the current WT environment is down to the fact that riders are coming in before they’re even twenty on the basis of their power numbers rather than their race smarts, not the equipment.

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    • lesterama
      August 18, 2025 at 11:07 am
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      I wouldn’t think twice about

      I wouldn’t think twice about doing a tricky Alpine descent on a classic ’70s to ’90s road bike. I love the way bikes of that era feel. I’d be slower than on a modern bike for sure.

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    • Backladder
      August 18, 2025 at 12:27 pm
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      Mr Anderson wrote:

      If the UCI want to reduce racing speed, they need to ban disc brakes, set a maximum tyre width of 23mm and set a maximum gear ratio of 108 inches. Let’s go retro!!

      — Mr Anderson

      I remember being able to lift the rear wheel when braking in the dry with cheap Weinman 500 brakes as well as being able to pedal at over 40mph with 108 inches back in the day and with today’s roads 23mm is just asking for punctures so basically NO!

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      • oceandweller
        August 18, 2025 at 5:00 pm
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        Backladder wrote:

        […snip…] and with today’s roads 23mm is just asking for punctures so basically NO!

        — Backladder

        Perfect. If everyone in the peloton is getting a puncture every few miles, that’s *really* gonna slow down the racing, surely? Result!

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        • ktache
          August 18, 2025 at 9:10 pm
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          Tannus.

          Tannus.

          No punctures.

          And will slow them down.

          Everywhere.

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  2. Hirsute
    August 18, 2025 at 9:25 am
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    This came up in a feed if
    This came up in a feed if anyone wants to support kidical mass as they need to buy third party/ liability insurance.

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/km-insurance

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  3. Miller
    August 18, 2025 at 10:31 am
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    Probably worth mentioning the
    Probably worth mentioning the Mount Washington hillclimb in the US where Illi Gardner absolutely demolished the female best time. Was 1hr6min, now 58:07.

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    • Rendel Harris
      August 18, 2025 at 11:48 am
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      Miller wrote:

      Probably worth mentioning the Mount Washington hillclimb in the US where Illi Gardner absolutely demolished the female best time. Was 1hr6min, now 58:07.

      — Miller

      It was/is, at 10.37.

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  4. thereverent
    August 18, 2025 at 11:30 am
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    On the Santander Cycles app,

    On the Santander Cycles app, I don’t find it that bad, but I’m not trying to hire a bike with it. I still use the key fob , which is pretty reliable. But it probably get compared to Lime and Forest apps now.

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  5. Rendel Harris
    August 18, 2025 at 11:46 am
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    Michael Woods wrote:

    “I once asked staff on my team: how much would they have to be paid, to drive around in a car at 50 km/h, 70 days a year, for 4-5 hours per day, in a T-shirt and shorts, and twice per year — with no control over when or where — they would be pushed out of the car? Statistically, that is roughly how many times the average pro rider crashes per season.”

    — Michael Woods

    Massive underestimate, surely? Just in the first week of the Tour it generally feels as if the GC favourites all have three or four tumbles, though thankfully most of them minor.

    “After the final stage of this year’s Tour, he [Mohric] literally said: ‘I gave it my all on the descent from Montmartre; I didn’t care whether I was just sitting at the table that evening or lying in the hospital’. Everyone thinks those are great statements, but what if he takes ten other riders down with him in his crash? I have a problem with that.”

    — Tim Declerq

    Bit harsh on Mohric? Maybe he’s a pain elsewhere but in that particular instance, IIRC, he was leading at the front of a three-man group trying to catch Pog and Wout, the only person he was putting at risk was himself.

     

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  6. Coolkitty
    August 18, 2025 at 1:08 pm
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    When cornering I tend to slow
    When cornering I tend to slow down a little and don t sit behind someone s wheel

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    • Rendel Harris
      August 18, 2025 at 2:00 pm
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      Coolkitty wrote:

      When cornering I tend to slow down a little and don t sit behind someone s wheel

      — Coolkitty

      As do I, but then my (and I presume your?) livelihood and future employment don’t rely on not losing the wheel in front. 

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  7. Velo-drone
    August 18, 2025 at 6:03 pm
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    TfL bikes are definitely the
    TfL bikes are definitely the cheapest hire option. But the app is indeed awful, as is the back-end tech behind it

    Any news on whether when they update the app, they will also update the awful system where if the card you’ve registered expires, they just suspend your accuunt- rather than, say sending you a message to say that your registed card has expired…?

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triwasaki 20 minutes ago

The behaviour of some fans on Alpe d'Huez this year was just criminal. Slapping riders, shouting in their faces (complete with spit), fights over free merch, falling into the road. The atmosphere generated by the numbers and the noise is great, but how can we stop idiots going too far and ruining the race with their dangerous disrespect? If it gets any worse there will be a fatality. Drunk idiots, motorbikes, cars and racing cyclists all in the the same narrow road space is going to cause the inevitable ...

in: Tour de France fan hit by team car driver in chaotic scenes on Alpe d’Huez, as Movistar rider forced to quit race after slamming into back of UAE vehicle
mctrials23 21 minutes ago

@pockstone I mean, I'm astonished the cyclist thought to submit that. Car had priority there and he decided that he was going to squeeze through that gap for no reason instead of waiting. The reason it was £1200 will be due to the cyclist not accepting the initial fine for their bad riding and taking it to court. Thats exactly the same thing that happens if a driver does the same. I'm sure the local rags were indeed using it as a good touchpaper to start a good old anti-cycling bingo bashing fest.

in: Police say “Operation SNAP has become so successful” as they continue not to investigate close passes without being able to measure passing distances
the little onion 1 hour ago

@mitsky Thanks - and remember kids, West Yorkshire Police are totally institutionally anti-cyclist. I think road.cc should ask them how many of the team reviewing cyclists' submissions to their video portal actually are regular cyclists, as in, how many cycle on the public highway, in plain clothes, at least twice a week.

in: The Tour de France’s Montmartre experiment is the best thing to happen to cycling for years – but please, ASO, make it count for the GC next time; “It’s too hard to answer!” Pogačar and Evenepoel baffled by climate change question + more on the live blog
Backladder 1 hour ago

@mitsky Would have been better if the camera was facing the other way for the train passing so that it came as a surprise like overtakes sometimes do in a noisy situation.

in: The Tour de France’s Montmartre experiment is the best thing to happen to cycling for years – but please, ASO, make it count for the GC next time; “It’s too hard to answer!” Pogačar and Evenepoel baffled by climate change question + more on the live blog
mitsky 1 hour ago

@the little onion Yeah, I posted in on Saturday morning onto Friday's blog. I'm surprised Road CC hasn't said anything about it (unless they are drafting it now). Another point I forgot to say is, given the car is parked, there is almost no danger apart from a scratch/dent. Given many cyclists pass parked cars closely thousands of times a day, is this a going to be a big issue now? Cycling Mikey's comparison video of passing a stationary train v being passed by one is usefull for this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikWFQquoZto

in: The Tour de France’s Montmartre experiment is the best thing to happen to cycling for years – but please, ASO, make it count for the GC next time; “It’s too hard to answer!” Pogačar and Evenepoel baffled by climate change question + more on the live blog
MaxiMinimalist 2 hours ago

Instead of asking Remco and Pogi their opinions on climate change, journalists should ask ASO management why stages started at 13.00 during the first week when the heat wave hit its peak. Interestingly, pundits talk about climate change only when the temperature rises. No doubt they have already forgotten this year's cancelled stages during GC races in Southern Europe due to strong winds, heavy rains and snow falls.

in: The Tour de France’s Montmartre experiment is the best thing to happen to cycling for years – but please, ASO, make it count for the GC next time; “It’s too hard to answer!” Pogačar and Evenepoel baffled by climate change question + more on the live blog
wtjs 2 hours ago

@mitsky the answer was phone use given it is pretty much a slam dunk with good evidence Not in Lancashire it isn't- HHMP offences are routinely ignored ttps://upride.cc/incident/ld71uom_amazonprime_handheldmobilephone/

in: Police say “Operation SNAP has become so successful” as they continue not to investigate close passes without being able to measure passing distances
wtjs 2 hours ago

@wtjs

in: Police say “Operation SNAP has become so successful” as they continue not to investigate close passes without being able to measure passing distances
wtjs 2 hours ago

@wtjs A year and a quarter later, a very similar offence at the same location by the driver of an 18 tonne double-decker ttps://upride.cc/incident/px12dnv_stagecoach41_closepass/

in: Police say “Operation SNAP has become so successful” as they continue not to investigate close passes without being able to measure passing distances
wtjs 2 hours ago

@quiff Any thoughts, wjts?! There is no possibility that the average police/ traffic officer would possess either the wit or the willingness to check back for previous offences reported to OpSnap. Lancashire is likely more idle, useless, anti-cyclist and totally inept than the average, but it's difficult to be sure. As for the impossibility of measurement or prosecution or penalty: ttps://upride.cc/incident/kn21axh_lancspolice_closepass/ PS Audi close-passing offence (ignored by LancsFilth as well as their own offence, of course) pictured in the text above is this one: ttps://upride.cc/incident/cd10wer_audiq7_closerpass/

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