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Former GB Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies belly-flops into 15-minute cities debate; Should dogs wear helmets?; Uber Eats cyclist goes viral for very British bike theft fear; SD Worx admit Amy Pieters in “a difficult period” + more on the live blog

One stage to go on the Tour de Live Blog… Dan Alexander will be leading the peloton home this Friday
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Feb 17, 2023 09:01
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SUMMARY

  • Should dogs wear helmets?
  • Uber Eats cyclist goes viral for very British bike theft fear
  • SD Worx admit Amy Pieters in "a difficult period"
  • Tour de Dance
  • Your comments
  • Doping figures show 29 cases of alleged wrongdoing in cycling in 2022 — the second highest number since 2015 — but just two from WorldTour and ProTour
  • Trek launches two new e-cargo bikes
  • How do you rate EF Education–EasyPost's Colombian champs kit?
  • BREAKING: Danny MacAskill is human after all
  • road.cc Podcast guest Carla Francombe talks 15-minute cities on Radio 4
  • Riding A Road Bike At 100 KM/H - How HARD Can It Be!?
  • Racing round-up: Come on guys, give someone else a go...
  • Former GB Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies belly-flops into 15-minute cities debate
  • Have a great weekend!
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17 February 2023, 09:01

Should dogs wear helmets?

With the helmet debate done to death, perhaps this is the next frontier…

I just met a very sweet Pomeranian near St Paul’s and the owners did not believe I’d seen one last year in Naples with a bike helmet, so here’s the proof 😂 pic.twitter.com/NfodraLpPl

— Simon MacMichael 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇹🇪🇺❤️💙🚲 (@simonmacmichael) February 16, 2023

17 February 2023, 09:01

Uber Eats cyclist goes viral for very British bike theft fear

Approaching our 15th birthday it remains the proudest moment of this website’s existence the day No Context Brits shared our story about the round-the-world cyclist whose bike got stolen outside a Wetherspoons in Reading. The peak of any journalist’s career…

Well, the popular Twitter account with 1.6 million followers is back on our patch…

pic.twitter.com/oYlCtLs43y

— No Context Brits (@NoContextBrits) February 16, 2023

Less cycling-related, but fun for a Friday morning…

pic.twitter.com/0F2GjztU7k

— Chris™ (@Chrisw_1) February 16, 2023

17 February 2023, 09:01

SD Worx admit Amy Pieters in "a difficult period"

Amy Pieters (SD Worx)
Amy Pieters (SD Worx) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Amy Pieters (SD Worx)
Amy Pieters (SD Worx) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[📷: SD Worx]

Providing an update on Amy Pieters’ recovery from the December 2021 crash which left the three-time rainbow jersey wearer in a coma for months, SD Worx admitted their rider is experiencing a “difficult period”. In a post on the team’s website…

It‘s been quiet around Amy Pieters for a while and there are reasons for that. Her rehabilitation can sometimes go less good. This is mainly due to a number of setbacks that she had to deal with. Pieters has had several epileptic seizures in a short period of time that slowed down her recovery. 

As a result, she has suffered a relapse in her mobility and her motivation to recover is also somewhat difficult due to the adjusted medication. This is a difficult period for her, but also for everyone who works and interacts with her.

Pieters can now answer with a clear yes and no, but unfortunately it is not yet possible to really have a conversation in sentences. She mainly communicates with facial expressions. Now there will be waited until the medication to be adjusted in such a way that she regains the energy and motivation so that she can work on the next steps of her rehabilitation.

Pieters still prefers to get on her bicycle and go for a ride outside, rather than sitting on an indoor bike in the gym. The Amy Pieters foundation has purchased an adapted bicycle for her, as well as a system to warn in the event of an epileptic attack. This so that she can also do cycling as an exercise at home during the weekends.

17 February 2023, 09:01

Tour de Dance

17 February 2023, 09:01

Your comments

Some of your thoughts on Davies’ dip into active travel…

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LTN planters (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

ubercurmudgeon: “As a general rule, anyone who includes in their Twitter name or handle a three-letter-acronym for some gong they received for letting the royal family associate themselves with their modest achievements, isn’t worth listening to.”

Patrick9-32: “Car drivers: Take up 95 per cent of infrastructure space and budget. Also car drivers: ‘Can’t we just make public transport, walking and cycling better without doing anything that makes driving even one per cent less convenient???? why is there a war on cars?”

billymansell: “As the saying goes, ‘when you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression’.”

17 February 2023, 09:01

Doping figures show 29 cases of alleged wrongdoing in cycling in 2022 — the second highest number since 2015 — but just two from WorldTour and ProTour

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London 2012 anti-doping lab (picture credit LOCOG) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
London 2012 anti-doping lab (picture credit LOCOG)
London 2012 anti-doping lab (picture credit LOCOG) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Figures published by the Mouvement Pour un Cyclisme Crédible (MPCC) show that there were 29 cases of alleged doping in cycling in 2022, ten more than in 2021.

Using data from anti-doping agencies, courts, federations and news reports the MPCC puts together its annual report into doping at a professional level in cycling and found last year’s figure was the second highest since 2015.

While the numbers seem high the MPCC was quick to point out there were just two cases in the sport’s top two tiers (WorldTour and ProTour), the lowest number recorded since before the Festina affair of 1998.

“In 2022, the large majority of doping proceedings in top-level cycling concerned semi-professional men riders from continental road teams (12 cases),” the MPCC explained.

17 February 2023, 09:01

Trek launches two new e-cargo bikes

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TK23_LAUNCH_FetchPlus_Lifestyle_04 (Image Credit: Trek)

> Trek launches two new e-cargo bikes

17 February 2023, 09:01

How do you rate EF Education–EasyPost's Colombian champs kit?

Esteban Chaves is the new Colombian national champion, sparking a great deal of excitment about how EF Education–EasyPost, the team behind several eye-catchingly radical kits over the years, would celebrate their rider’s success. The answer?

No!!! Wtf is that?! pic.twitter.com/cqwbCzoSbd

— Tim Bonville-Ginn (@TimBonvilleGinn) February 17, 2023

What do we reckon? A tad undersold? Maybe it’s the curse of too much expectation, but to our eye that does look a little bit too UAE Team Emirates-y…

I’m so disappointed pic.twitter.com/3Ts9w3iLNj

— Tim Bonville-Ginn (@TimBonvilleGinn) February 17, 2023

That is the Venezuelan champion but yes the design is better…

I was expecting this! 👇 pic.twitter.com/oxgr8hB5Yu

— Tim Bonville-Ginn (@TimBonvilleGinn) February 17, 2023

Our only hope?

I doubt it, but we shall see 🙃

— Tim Bonville-Ginn (@TimBonvilleGinn) February 17, 2023

Come on Vaughters, the people want an explosion in a yellow paint factory… step it up… 

17 February 2023, 09:01

BREAKING: Danny MacAskill is human after all

I had fun yesterday testing out my trials skills on an old pier. This line didn’t quite go to plan, but I hope you enjoy coming along for the ride 😉@GoPro 11 hero mini #failfriday #trials #streettrials #balance pic.twitter.com/GLl0yPYJfb

— Danny MacAskill (@danny_macaskill) February 17, 2023

17 February 2023, 09:01

road.cc Podcast guest Carla Francombe talks 15-minute cities on Radio 4

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Salford LTN (via Sustrans)
Salford LTN (via Sustrans) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Back in November we had Carla Francombe on the road.cc Podcast to discuss staying calm in the face of online abuse. You can catch that episode here, by the way… anyway, back to today’s story — 15-minute cities…

Clearly her appearance on the road.cc little leagues was impressive enough to earn a call-up to the big time and Radio 4’s AntiSocial programme. Joining Adam Flemming live alongside Alan Miller of Together Declaration, the anti-lockdown group that objected to vaccine passports and other issues during the Covid pandemic, Francombe represented the pro-15-minute city voice, championing active travel policy.

“For me, it’s just a lot about having safe streets and people-friendly streets,” she told the show. “The reason it came to me was we went to Guernsey, I took my little kids and we went to St Peter Port and the whole of the town centre had no cars.

“And it was just like this complete epiphany of I just haven’t realised how much I was scared, all the time, walking the streets with my kids.”

You can listen to the full hour-long episode here…

17 February 2023, 09:01

Riding A Road Bike At 100 KM/H - How HARD Can It Be!?

> Hitting 100kph on a bike — what does it take to break this elusive cycling speed barrier?

17 February 2023, 09:01

Racing round-up: Come on guys, give someone else a go...

Four races for the round-up today, two won by the same person who won yesterday and one by the same rider who’s won that stage twice before. Let’s start in Spain where Elisa Balsamo made it two from two…

💨💨💨💨
Etapa 2 ⚡️ @Elisa_balsamo

🧡 #SetmanaCiclista23 pic.twitter.com/UdDsF6Cit0

— Setmana Ciclista – Volta Femenina de la CV (@SetmanaCiclista) February 17, 2023

Meanwhile, Tadej Pogačar had a day off dominating the entire peloton into submission, but just so teammate Tim Wellens could take his third career win in Alcalá de los Gazules.

The UAE Team Emirates domination continues 👊💥

Tim Wellens attacks on a 𝐁𝐑𝐔𝐓𝐀𝐋 final climb to solo to a Stage 3 victory in Andalucia 🥵⛰@Tim_Wellens | @TeamEmiratesUAE pic.twitter.com/nVnQ1Pp4sI

— Eurosport (@eurosport) February 17, 2023

All the watts…

A perfect day at the 69RdS 🇪🇸.@Tim_Wellens with the stage win. @TamauPogi retains his overall lead. 👌👏👍#UAETeamEmirates #WeAreUAE pic.twitter.com/AxYqrHj7FW

— @UAE-TeamEmirates (@TeamEmiratesUAE) February 17, 2023

Talking of all the watts, how about this sprint from Magnus Cort, distancing the rest of the Volta ao Algarve startlist…

Senhora vitória de @MagnusCort na etapa 3 da #VAlgarve23 pic.twitter.com/5pW9nkaJvI

— País do Ciclismo (@opaisdociclismo) February 17, 2023

What’s that? It wasn’t a bunch sprint? Nope, King Cort was in an attack group that took off at the intermediate sprint at 24km to go… some big engines in there — Filippo Ganna, Tom Pidcock, Rui Costa, TT world champ Tobias Foss, Valentin Madouas — and yet the answer was perhaps the most obvious… yesterday’s winner taking another victory today…

That. 👏🏻 Was. 👏🏻Thrilling

Thank you @MagnusCort! #VAlgarve23 pic.twitter.com/NAck0ZgrLj

— Anna Mac 🌈 (@AnnamacB) February 17, 2023

Oh, and before I forget, Tour des Alpes Maritimes et du Var stage one was won by Kévin Vauquelin. And breathe… 

17 February 2023, 09:01

Former GB Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies belly-flops into 15-minute cities debate

Remember the good ol’ days when it was just LTNs getting shouty people on the internet worked up? It has been some week for the 15-minute city ‘debate’, starting with Conservative MP Nick Fletcher raising a known conspiracy theory in Parliament, sparking the inevitable GB News reaction, but now we’ve even got an Olympic swimmer wading in at the deep end…

Yeap & Meantime we’re going to get fined for travelling 15 mins from our house! pic.twitter.com/Br5kvp1c4f

— Sharron Davies MBE (@sharrond62) February 16, 2023

Did I say ‘wading in’? Maybe cannonballing would be more accurate. And admittedly it’s a bit of a two for the price of one situation, with Davies’ initial Bath-based complaint being about the Clean Air Zone, but also mentioning Oxford where 15-minute city plans seem to be the issue.

 Anyway, the 1980 Moscow Olympics silver medallist, who has also been outspoken about trans issues in sport, did not see the comments go unnoticed…

I know what it’s going to cost me ( & others) to see friends & pick my son up from school in Bath. I know all shop keepers are hugely anti. I know 90% of those consulted in Oxford are also anti! This should not be put in place stealth. It’s nothing more than another tax

— Sharron Davies MBE (@sharrond62) February 16, 2023

[click on the photo to see the full info below]

How is it going to cost anything extra than it does right now? pic.twitter.com/gYYo6UHo21

— Rich (@531Forever) February 16, 2023

Oxford resident here, 90% are not against it, we would like to be able to freely move about our city without it being clogged up with cars. We also know that it is faster to use the ring road rather than trying to drive across it on medieval streets

— Peter Kimsey (@KimseyPeter) February 16, 2023

You don’t get the irony. Driving into Bath is what’s causing the jams, that and driving from one side of the city to the other, driving round & round looking for a parking spot.

— Sir Gordon & the Vaccines (@thegordonkerr) February 16, 2023

Incidentally, here’s Oliver Wainwright’s piece in The Guardian yesterday, ‘In praise of the ‘15-minute city’ – the mundane planning theory terrifying conspiracists’… sorry, not sure how that ended up there…

17 February 2023, 09:01

Have a great weekend!

That. Was. Class. #kingmagnus

— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) February 17, 2023

Too kind, Jonathan, I thought it was just another standard live blog, but if you insist…

We’ll see you all on Monday, have a great weekend everyone! 

17 February 2023, 09:01

Mum compares school run to “going into battle” as Sustrans calls for School Streets to be introduced in Northern Ireland

Mum compares school run to “going into battle” as Sustrans calls for School Streets to be introduced in Northern Ireland

Northern Ireland is the only UK region not to have introduced the initiative, which restricts traffic at school drop-off and pick-up times

17 February 2023, 09:01

‘The War on the Motorist’ deconstructed — looking at the truth behind the myths

‘The War on the Motorist’ deconstructed — looking at the truth behind the myths

The first instalment of a two-part feature that examines some of the assumptions made about motoring in the UK

17 February 2023, 09:01

Cyclists perceived to be among Ireland’s most dangerous road users, according to poll

Cyclists perceived to be among Ireland’s most dangerous road users, according to poll

The survey found that only young male drivers and e-scooter users are deemed to be more dangerous – though younger people are less inclined to view cyclists as the greatest hazard on the roads

17 February 2023, 09:01

“I wish he’d just shut up forever”: Patrick Lefevere blasted for claiming that women’s cycling is “being pushed artificially”

“I wish he’d just shut up forever”: Patrick Lefevere blasted for claiming that women’s cycling is “being pushed artificially”

The controversial Belgian boss, who joined forces with the AG Insurance-Soudal Quick-Step women’s team last year, was also criticised for his flawed understanding of cycling’s minimum wage

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  1. Boopop
    February 17, 2023 at 9:19 am
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    Anyone else avoid people who

    Anyone else avoid people who casually put “Conspiracy theories” on their dating profiles like the plague, or is it just me?

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    • chrisonabike
      February 17, 2023 at 10:35 am
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      Why would someone put that? I
      Why would someone put that? I mean – if you think they are out to get everyone the last thing you’d do is announce to the world that you knew about their sinister plans. Hmmm… *Those profiles are fakes! It’s a trap by the deep state / wokerati / cycling nazis / lizards! *

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      • ktache
        February 17, 2023 at 12:02 pm
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        Crazies gotta crazy!

        Crazies gotta crazy!

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      • eburtthebike
        February 17, 2023 at 1:45 pm
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        chrisonatrike wrote:

        Those profiles are fakes! It’s a trap by the deep state / wokerati / cycling nazis / lizards! *

        — chrisonatrike

        My lizard says you’re lying.

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        • chrisonabike
          February 17, 2023 at 2:23 pm
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          eburtthebike wrote:

          My lizard says you’re lying.

          — eburtthebike

          That’s *exactly* what I’d expect a lizard secretly ruling the world from the shadows to say!

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        • Flintshire Boy
          February 17, 2023 at 10:24 pm
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          Hmm. It’f not Friday by any chance, is it?!
          .

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        • Backladder
          February 19, 2023 at 7:31 pm
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          eburtthebike wrote:

          Those profiles are fakes! It’s a trap by the deep state / wokerati / cycling nazis / lizards! *

          — eburtthebike

          My lizard says you’re lying.

          — chrisonatrike

          My mongoose eats your lizard.

          Checkmate!

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    • Mungecrundle
      February 17, 2023 at 10:39 am
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      I just avoid people who might
      I just avoid people who might know my Mrs.

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      • IanMSpencer
        February 17, 2023 at 2:44 pm
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        Ah! That’s where I went wrong
        Ah! That’s where I went wrong. (Though, TBF Mrs S. Mk2 has been a wise investment).

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    • IanMSpencer
      February 17, 2023 at 2:43 pm
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      What’s a dating profile?
      What’s a dating profile?

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    • andystow
      February 17, 2023 at 3:11 pm
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      I don’t look at dating

      I don’t look at dating profiles (because I’m married) but if I were in the market I’d find it a useful way to weed out the loonies.

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    • Flintshire Boy
      February 17, 2023 at 10:23 pm
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      Yup. You’re right.

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      It’s just you(!!)

      .

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    • chrisonabike
      February 17, 2023 at 11:21 pm
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      Boopop wrote:

      Anyone else avoid people who casually put “Conspiracy theories” on their dating profiles like the plague, or is it just me?

      — Boopop

      Is there ever a casual conspiracy theory?  That sounds like something Bill Bailey would invent…”Yeah, er… the Illuminati an’ that are secretly controlling the world!  Well, I say that, I mean … I’ve heard they might have a bit of undue influence in Grimsby.  Actually, I’m not that fussed about it.”

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  2. Secret_squirrel
    February 17, 2023 at 9:22 am
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    Its pretty clear that about 5

    Its pretty clear that about 5% of “celebrities” take the blue pill and go on down the social media conspiracy rabbit hole.

    Sharron Davies is a case in point.  She’s totally tinfoil hat wearing cuckoo and should be muted at the first opportunity.

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  3. Patrick9-32
    February 17, 2023 at 9:46 am
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    Car drivers: Take up 95% of

    Car drivers: Take up 95% of infrastructure space and budget.

    Also Car drivers: “Can’t we just make public transport, walking and cycling better without doing anything that makes driving even 1% less convenient???? why is there a war on cars?”

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    • billymansell
      February 17, 2023 at 9:55 am
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      As the saying goes, ‘When You

      As the saying goes, ‘When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression’ 

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      • grOg
        February 18, 2023 at 7:11 am
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        any more leftist drivel to

        any more leftist drivel to unload?

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        • marmotte27
          February 18, 2023 at 7:34 am
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          Any more rightist drivel to
          Any more rightist drivel to unload?

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  4. mattw
    February 17, 2023 at 9:58 am
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    Since we already have blue

    Since we already have blue pills in this thread, I hereby declare that helmets are for phalluses (or phallums, as they may become in Scotland).

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  5. HarrogateSpa
    February 17, 2023 at 10:11 am
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    Chris Boardman’s view on

    Chris Boardman’s view on opponents of active travel initiatives with illogical arguments is ‘don’t engage, just ignore them’. I agree.

    Road.cc has some interesting content, but I find the constant search for outrage-generation stories wearing.

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    • sean1
      February 17, 2023 at 11:08 am
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      Yes road.cc definitely likes

      Yes road.cc definitely likes the click-bait articles.

      I wish they wouldn’t publish so many of these types of stories and balance them with more positive and worthwhile news.

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    • Jippily
      February 17, 2023 at 11:16 am
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      It’s far more important to
      It’s far more important to know what Jeremy Vine is getting up to than any real cycling news.

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    • EddyBerckx
      February 17, 2023 at 12:15 pm
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      Yeah it means I visit less –

      Yeah it means I visit less – I don’t wanna get angry due to a minority of no nothing idiots and their vile / ignorant opinions shoved in my face every time I visit the website.

      Cycling has been such a positive thing in my life – I’d rather keep it that way

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      • vthejk
        February 17, 2023 at 2:43 pm
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        I struggle with this. Yes, I

        I struggle with this. Yes, I find cycling to be important and have positive associations with it; though equally, some of the outrage-generating issues are important and need discussing in order to put them to bed. Or are they only important because we write about them? Jury’s out.

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        • Gimpl
          February 17, 2023 at 3:16 pm
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          It’s not usually the article

          It’s not usually the article but the bollocks underneath. From much the same posters.

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          • Flintshire Boy
            February 17, 2023 at 10:19 pm
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            LOL! Like it.

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            A LOT.

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            Yours, Even Nasty FB.

            .

    • eburtthebike
      February 17, 2023 at 1:43 pm
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      HarrogateSpa wrote:

      Chris Boardman’s view on opponents of active travel initiatives with illogical arguments is ‘don’t engage, just ignore them’. I agree.

      — HarrogateSpaI don’t.  The problem with ignoring them, and not countering their arguments is that is all the public hears are the lies, so it becomes accepted wisdom.  Once the lies have been around for some time unchallenged, they get the status of facts, and the majority believe them, and once people believe something it is very difficult to change their minds, e.g. Brexit, helmets.

      My opinion is that the people lying about LTNs and 15 minute neighbourhoods should be called out and their lies exposed at every opportunity.

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      • ShutTheFrontDawes
        February 17, 2023 at 2:22 pm
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        eburtthebike wrote:

        Chris Boardman’s view on opponents of active travel initiatives with illogical arguments is ‘don’t engage, just ignore them’. I agree.

        — eburtthebike

        I don’t.  The problem with ignoring them, and not countering their arguments is that is all the public hears are the lies, so it becomes accepted wisdom.  Once the lies have been around for some time unchallenged, they get the status of facts, and the majority believe them, and once people believe something it is very difficult to change their minds, e.g. Brexit, helmets.

        My opinion is that the people lying about LTNs and 15 minute neighbourhoods should be called out and their lies exposed at every opportunity.

        — HarrogateSpa

        Yep, gotta challenge all those lies by telling people that… *checks notes* … Helmets kill people. Bravo.

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        • AidanR
          February 17, 2023 at 3:13 pm
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          ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:

          Yep, gotta challenge all those lies by telling people that… *checks notes* … Helmets kill people. Bravo.

          — ShutTheFrontDawes

          Helmets don’t kill people. People wearing helmets kill people.

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          • SimoninSpalding
            February 17, 2023 at 3:50 pm
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            Oh and now you’ve planted

            Oh and now you’ve planted Goldie looking chain in my head again….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICG0MuzEYzw

          • NotNigel
            February 17, 2023 at 3:51 pm
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            Ditto.

            Ditto.

          • ShutTheFrontDawes
            February 17, 2023 at 4:00 pm
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            SimoninSpalding wrote:

            Oh and now you’ve planted Goldie looking chain in my head again….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICG0MuzEYzw

            — SimoninSpalding

            WOOP WOOP! Dats da sound of da police! Oh wait, no it isn’t due to budget cuts in road policing.

          • chrisonabike
            February 17, 2023 at 4:04 pm
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            “Helmets don’t kill people,

            “Helmets don’t kill people, people wearing helmets do *:
            I’m a helmet-wearer and I might kill you”?

            * shouldn’t this be ‘people driving motor vehicles’?

          • Backladder
            February 19, 2023 at 4:32 pm
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            AidanR wrote:

            Yep, gotta challenge all those lies by telling people that… *checks notes* … Helmets kill people. Bravo.

            — AidanR

            Helmets don’t kill people. People wearing helmets kill people.

            — ShutTheFrontDawes

            No, no, no, no, no, get it right!

            Helmets don’t kill people, I kill people, with helmets.

          • chrisonabike
            February 19, 2023 at 5:44 pm
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            “Innocently kill” people in a
            “Innocently kill” people in a series of unrelated one-off unpreventable freak accidents caused by momentary loss of concentration?

          • Backladder
            February 19, 2023 at 7:23 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            “Innocently kill” people in a series of unrelated one-off unpreventable freak accidents caused by momentary loss of concentration?

            — chrisonatrike

            Well of course, I am offended that you suggest it might be deliberate!

          • NOtotheEU
            February 19, 2023 at 5:53 pm
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            Backladder wrote:

            Yep, gotta challenge all those lies by telling people that… *checks notes* … Helmets kill people. Bravo.

            — Backladder

            Helmets don’t kill people. People wearing helmets kill people.

            — AidanR

            No, no, no, no, no, get it right!

            Helmets don’t kill people, I kill people, with helmets.— ShutTheFrontDawes

            I think Goldie Lookin’ Chain wrote a song about that

            Cars don’t kill people helmets do
            Sound of the police
            Woo Woo Woo

      • NotNigel
        February 17, 2023 at 2:26 pm
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        I think it’s the frequency of

        I think it’s the frequency of certain stories being posted about on here – which then sets off the same arguments over and over again until the actual subject of the debate is lost and it becomes a battle of the condescending – that some of us get tiresome with. I get that news is news and needs reporting but as others have mentioned, a few more positive uplifting stories wouldn’t go a miss.  Pretty sure it’s not all doom and gloom out there.

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        • Flintshire Boy
          February 17, 2023 at 10:22 pm
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          Hey, NN – a good helmet quote / flame / update on an article is ALWAYS great for giving people the opportunity to say the same things that they have said about a hundred times before.

          .

          Where would Road.cc be without them?

          .

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      • vthejk
        February 17, 2023 at 2:45 pm
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        There is a point beyond which

        There is a point beyond which calling people out equates to giving them free publicity for an issue that, otherwise, would’ve died out from lack of exposure. Maybe that’s what happens a lot here, too?

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        • chrisonabike
          February 17, 2023 at 3:20 pm
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          That friend speaks my mind!
          That friend speaks my mind!

          If people might be listening, tell them why you disagree. Sometimes the best mode is not to play.

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          • Backladder
            February 19, 2023 at 7:29 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            That friend speaks my mind! If people might be listening, tell them why you disagree. Sometimes the best mode is not to play.

            — chrisonatrike

            You mean “The only winning move is not to play”?

            I wish it was true, but if you leave them to spout unopposed then it becomes “common knowledge” and then politicians have to do something about it to get elected etc. etc.

    • AidanR
      February 17, 2023 at 3:14 pm
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      If you think that’s bad,
      If you think that’s bad, click into the Twitter threads. I had to leave after 30 seconds as it was taking me to a dark place…

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    • oceandweller
      February 17, 2023 at 11:10 pm
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      I heard the discussion today

      I heard the discussion today & it was definitely not a meeting of minds. CB’s right (as always ime), the best thing to do is ignore them. They really don’t matter, dinosaurs that haven’t heard the latest news from Chicxulub…

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  6. Owd Big 'Ead
    February 17, 2023 at 10:35 am
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    Used to know Sharron quite
    Used to know Sharron quite well many years ago, played squash regularly with her second husband. She wasn’t the sharpest card back then. Nothing seems to have changed.

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  7. ubercurmudgeon
    February 17, 2023 at 11:07 am
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    As a general rule, anyone who

    As a general rule, anyone who includes in their Twitter name or handle a three-letter-acronym for some gong they received for letting the royal family associate themselves with their modest achievements, isn’t worth listening to. Here’s another prime example.

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    • SimoninSpalding
      February 17, 2023 at 4:15 pm
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      I’m even pretty sceptical

      I’m even pretty sceptical about anyone having BA/ BSc on their business card/ email footer…

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      • brooksby
        February 17, 2023 at 4:30 pm
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        Especially nowadays, when

        Especially nowadays, when having a B<something> degree is like having an O-level maths back in the day…

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      • Rendel Harris
        February 17, 2023 at 6:54 pm
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        SimoninSpalding wrote:

        I’m even pretty sceptical about anyone having BA/ BSc on their business card/ email footer…

        — SimoninSpalding

        The signs outside schools annoy me, it’s always “Headteacher Mr Fred Whoosis, BA (Hons), PGCE…” when you (nearly always) can’t be a (state) teacher of any level without those two things.

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  8. brooksby
    February 17, 2023 at 12:23 pm
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    We can’t even get my dog to

    We can’t even get my dog to wear a Xmas jumper – I can’t imagine getting him to wear a helmet!

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    • SimoninSpalding
      February 17, 2023 at 4:12 pm
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      I’m more than happy to wear a

      I’m more than happy to wear a helmet at the appropriate time, but NEVER a Christmas jumper, so that doesn’t necessarily follow.

      For the sake of clarity I am not claiming to be your dog.

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      • chrisonabike
        February 17, 2023 at 4:23 pm
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        The Stooges!

        For the sake of clarity I am not claiming to be your dog.

        The Stooges!

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  9. Hirsute
    February 17, 2023 at 2:45 pm
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    Today’s clueless driver

    Today’s clueless driver
    2 cars in front both turning right and indicating.

    I put my arm out in a vain attempt to get them to abort, but they barrel on.

    Luckily for them, the red car driver did not turn right in the end.

    I think the HC says something about overtaking and junctions but obviously I haven’t read it since I passed my test.

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  10. SimoninSpalding
    February 17, 2023 at 3:57 pm
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    Still wishing Amy Pieters the

    Still wishing Amy Pieters the best recovery possible. 

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  11. eburtthebike
    February 17, 2023 at 6:50 pm
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    road.cc Podcast guest Carla

    road.cc Podcast guest Carla Francombe talks 15-minute cities on Radio 4

    This is a must listen.  If you doubted that these conspiracy theorists need to be challenged, just listen to that prog.  Carla did a great job, but only briefly mentioned that most LTNs are incredibly popular with the residents, a rather vital point, while the mouthy bloke went on and on about how unpopular they were.  He also kept saying that the elected local councillors were ignoring the public, but he was there to represent them.  He also claimed that certain cycling groups were threatening people.

    You couldn’t ask for a better example of how deluded and rabid are the petrolheads.

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  12. eburtthebike
    February 17, 2023 at 10:04 pm
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    BREAKING: Danny MacAskill is

    BREAKING: Danny MacAskill is human after all

    I was going to comment, but I don’t think that in this case it’s appropriate to pier review.
     

     

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  13. Rome73
    February 18, 2023 at 9:17 am
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    When we relocated our child’s

    When we relocated our children’s education from London to Paris the first thing we noticed (without knowing the current jargon) was that we were, at least in the part of Paris we had moved to, in a 15 minute city. In London the children went to music school, swimming, dance, horse riding and school. School and music school we could cycle to. Swimming, dance and horse riding required a car and sometimes lots of traffic and sitting in queues. In Paris we amazingly discovered that everything was in walking distance. This has much to do with the French philosophy that all children should have access to all amenities. (Not to mention that prices are a fraction of what they are in London) So in Paris we don’t have a car. When we go out of Paris we hire a car. The other thing I noticed is that at the school gates there are lots of cargo bikes and eBikes with child seats. I am not saying all of France is a ‘paradise’ – I doubt it is. But the 15 minute city is a very attainable and achievable ideal. To know that the dance class is a 10 minute walk rather than 20 or maybe 30 or sometimes even 40 minutes in a car is very liberating. The other thing I noticed when first moving to Paris is seeing children walking about on their own – going places. And I don’t mean teenagers but primaire school children. This wasn’t the case in London – where everyone was in a car going somewhere. 

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    • Rendel Harris
      February 18, 2023 at 9:30 am
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      That’s something I notice on

      That’s something I notice on our frequent trips to Paris: we always rent an Air BnB, in the UK we’ll take a box full of provisions because one can never be sure of the availability or quality of local retail; in Paris one just takes a bank card safe in the knowledge that in whatever neighbourhood one’s staying (even the relatively impoverished ones) there will be good quality food shopping, chemists, off licences etc etc within a short walk at most. The culture of driving to the supermarket simply doesn’t exist and it’s all the better for it.

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  14. Hirsute
    February 19, 2023 at 2:47 pm
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    I think I’ve jsut gone down

    I think I’ve just gone down the rabbit hole with this one

    “under magna carta you have the right to travel the length and breadth of this country in your own personal conveyance unhindered, they are breaking real law by limiting travel…”

    Although some great responses

    “Quite right it was actually the Declaration of Arbroath that first expressed views on modal filters, although it said a lot more about pelican crossings”

    “My only criticism of The Commonwealth was that Cromwell didn’t follow the guidance in LTN 1/20. But that’s puritanism for you, fun was practically outlawed.”

    “Hurry up John, the parking charges are horrendous here…”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpUqfJGXoAA3lyN?format=jpg&name=small

    “Have you read Magna Carta? It’s a very easy read. There is no “right to travel” nor mention of “personal conveyance” Also, statutes are a thing. Only 3 clauses from MC still hold today. Yes, that’s how laws work.”

    https://www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-english-translation

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mdavidford 23 minutes ago

It's not a 'statement' though - it's road.cc's words, based on l'Equipe's interpretation. The actual statement issued on it said that the judge authorised it "guaranteeing strict proportionality between the infringements on the rights of the athlete and the stakes of the fight against doping in terms of fair competition and protection of his health."

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Rendel Harris 31 minutes ago

Trust me Callum, if you'd grown up watching the Tour in the 1980s, as I did, you would not be hankering after those long flat stages that weren't even as exciting as watching paint dry, it was more like listening to paint dry. As for the supposed benefits of those long TTs, what did they give us? Indurain winning five Tours in a row without winning a single road stage in any of them. As McT says below, you simply can't Pogacar-proof a course and we just have to accept, and enjoy, the fact that we are watching the greatest GT cyclist of all time. Anyway I think it has been a great Tour so far, yes no enormous drama about the inevitable winner (though of course Vinegaard and now Lipowitz have shown us that anything can happen) but just about every day has had a fascinating plot and multiple subplots. Some time in the future there will be another Indurain-style winner, playing it cautious, following moves, making incremental gains and winning without ever lighting up the race and we'll be saying I wish the old days of Pogacar making those spectacular solo breaks were back.

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Gravel1-2 36 minutes ago

The main issue is the layout of the stages with the bigger climb first then a shallow finish climb. It means pogacar can get a gap at the top of the big climb and then stretch 10-15 seconds to a minute plus at the finish over smaller riders like Vingegaard. A summit finish on the hardest climb might not lead to the most exciting racing but equally would keep the gaps closer. I totally agree with the TT kms though, they should have 60+km tts in the grand tours.

in: This year’s Tour de France route does the race organisers no favours
mctrials23 51 minutes ago

@MaxiMinimalist I mean, that statement makes it sound like they had reason to think those two are doping. Either they didn't follow procedure and are making shit up to cover themselves up or something is going on.

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Mr Blackbird 55 minutes ago

Quite possibly. But the changeover time loss would be a bit more significant if it was done on the flat just after the downhill when the riders are travelling faster, the deceleration, changeover and acceleration loss could easily be around 30 seconds, which is quite a lot of a 34 minute effort.

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mitsky 1 hour ago

So Skoda have taken a leaf out of Dung-Old Karen Taco Trump's book and are re-naming something when they have no authority to do so?

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Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

@Mr Blackbird Fair points, though I was wondering if doing the climb and descent on a standard bike and swapping to TT for the flat section would have been worth it? Certainly quite a few riders seemed to be having handling difficulties maintaining the best line on the descent with their TT machines.

in: “Good for the f*** all training I do on this bike”: Tom Pidcock loses time on “scary” descent but happy with “best TT I’ve ever done” at Tour de France
Mr Blackbird 3 hours ago

No. The climb wasn't severely steep and allowed a reasonable speed to be maintained on a TT bike, his bike handling skills on road or TT bike are outstanding for the descent and on a road bike he would have lost a lot of time on the flat last 9k section. Terrific performance by him though!

in: “Good for the f*** all training I do on this bike”: Tom Pidcock loses time on “scary” descent but happy with “best TT I’ve ever done” at Tour de France
Pub bike 12 hours ago

Would he have performed better on his normal bike?

in: “Good for the f*** all training I do on this bike”: Tom Pidcock loses time on “scary” descent but happy with “best TT I’ve ever done” at Tour de France
wtjs 13 hours ago

the National Bus and Rail Union told the Oireachtas (Irish Parliament) the following month, saying the requirements (making the cyclist scum wear helmets and HiViz) would, “make the roads a safer place, as it would make potential hazards easier to spot.” Nothing to do with driver behaviour then? Stagecoach is even putting intimidating threats against cyclists on the side of the buses now! ttps://upride.cc/incident/px60beo_stagecoach41-closepass/

in: “Fewer people cycling or scooting does not make roads safer”: Minister criticised for suggesting Irish Government would consider mandatory hi-vis and helmets for all cyclists

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