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"Nobody should be allowed near a driving licence until they've undertaken a comprehensive cycling course"; Lance Armstrong vs Jake Paul; Lapierre bikes back in WorldTour; Bizarre Tour de France betting tale; Festive 500 in one ride + more on the live blog

Only 13 sleeps 'til Christmas (or nine live blogs if you use the alternative road.cc Advent Calendar)... Dan Alexander is bringing you all your news, reaction and more from the cycling world this Thursday...

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12 December 2024, 15:13
"Nobody should be allowed near a driving licence until they've undertaken a comprehensive cycling course"

Cycling Scotland shared this on Facebook, drivers from Parks coach company in Hamilton recently out on their bikes as part of a Road User Awareness Training session. The idea being to gain "first-hand awareness of at-risk road users and guidance on how to drive more safely around people cycling".

Coach drivers undertake cycling session (Cycling Scotland)

It's got plenty of praise, many of the comments calling it a great initiative that should be more widely implemented. In fact, one person, a driver of 54 years and bike rider of 66 years, raised the idea that "no one should be allowed near driving lessons or licence until and unless they've undertaken a comprehensive cycling proficiency course/test", clarifying that they mean a 'proper' cycling course, not just the "school age basic type of 'proficiency'".

Coach drivers undertake cycling session (Cycling Scotland)

It's certainly not a new idea, and we're probably preaching to the converted here, but should cycling be part of the process of learning to drive? It would certainly, you'd imagine, give road users a greater appreciation for issues and dangers cyclists face?

Another comment suggested "the greatest benefit to road safety in the UK would be requiring *ALL* motorists to spend time cycling on public roads."

The York Cycle Campaign agreed with the positive impact such training can have, helping road users more aware of how others experience the roads. Likewise, they agreed with a comment saying it would also help for road users to experience sitting in a truck cab.

What do we reckon? Greater education and experience around cycling as a standard part of learning to drive? Seems a pretty obvious one when you write it out as a question like that...

12 December 2024, 16:38
More of your thoughts about Shimano's inspection programme
Broken Shimano cranks - 8

Thought we'd share some comments from the year-on deep dive into Shimano's inspection programme. For those who haven't seen it...

> Shimano Hollowtech crank failures, one year on — how the component giant's handling of this dangerous debacle is continuing to damage its reputation

EM69: "Always thought it poor of Shimano to put the onus on the bike shops to make the decision on replacement here in the UK. My Ultegra chainset was replaced at the end of 2023 just as the bike was going away for the winter so I was very lucky as that year alone I'd already completed over 2,500 miles on it. A Dura-Ace crankset on another machine passed the inspection but I was told to keep a close eye on it and listen for any abnormal creaks or ticking, so now the onus is on me." 

open_roads: "As I suspect many consumers have done - all of the drivetrain and brake equipment I have purchased this year has been from other manufacturers."

snooks: "I've been [using] Shimano since the late 70s and still do. Very disappointing how they have handled this. It's enough to make me consider SRAM."

12 December 2024, 14:57
"Tech always gets faster – it's on riders to not do stupid things," says Tadej Pogačar, after rival team boss called for "slower bikes to save lives" and pro claimed "modern bikes break every time you crash"
12 December 2024, 14:40
Rebrand season continues... as Dutch outfit becomes Team Picnic PostNL and Lapierre bikes return to the WorldTour

Plenty of off-season admin going on at the team formerly known as Team dsm-firmenich PostNL, the Dutch men's and women's squads getting a rebrand for next season, when they'll be Team Picnic PostNL. Here's veteran classics star John Degenkolb modelling the new kit, the former Milan-San Remo and Paris-Roubaix winner sticking around for another couple of years.

 Degenkolb, Charlotte Kool, Pfeiffer Georgi, Romain Bardet, Fabio Jakobsen and Co. will be riding Lapierre bikes, the brand returning to the WorldTour for the first time since FDJ switched to Willier for 2024. It also all means that Scott won't be represented by Picnic PostNL next season, Q36.5 (and big-name signing Tom Pidcock) flying their flag once again in 2025.

Picnic PostNL's deal with Lapierre is for four years, according to the bike brand's parent company Accell Group. The riders will use the brand's new Xelius DRS for road races and the Aerostorm DRS for time trials.

> Lapierre reckons its latest bike is "a new pinnacle of endurance cycling performance"

Iwan Spekenbrink, CEO Team Picnic PostNL said: "We are delighted to partner with Accell and Lapierre and are impressed by their recent development to become future proof in what has been a challenging cycling manufacturing industry for the last years.

"We share a mindset regarding our commitments to technology, innovation and performance. Our R&D experts are looking forward to working closely with their engineering and technical specialists to integrate input and feedback in the development of the next generation of our road bikes, which we will already see out on the road mid-next year."

12 December 2024, 12:09
An epic test of physical and mental resilience... could you ride the Festive 500 in one go?
Herne Hill Velodrome (CC licensed by tompagenet:Flickr)

The Festive 500 is an essential part of the Christmas week for many. Chapeau to all of you doing it this year, an even bigger well done to the ten brave souls taking it on in one ride at Herne Hill Velodrome, in south London, on the 29th and 30th of December.

Lloyd Collier will be one of them, the ten available places on the annual event are always over-subscribed but a lucky group has been selected to take on the mega challenge and raise money for some fantastic causes in the process.

500km outdoors during the British winter sounds hard enough, then add in the sleep deprivation and psychological fatigue of riding the same 450m lap over and over and over again... more than 1,000 times. It's a proper challenge.

Lloyd is riding in memory of Annette 'Netty' Collier who sadly took her own life last year. He's raising funds for the Essex & Herts Air Ambulance who attempted to save Netty that day.

"Each time the helicopter flies it costs almost £3,000, with EHAAT's monthly total cost coming to approximately £1,000,000," Lloyd tells us. "They rely solely on charitable donations so I'm hoping to raise enough funds for their next three or four missions — wouldn't it be wonderful if, with funds raised in memory of Netty, they can get to the next Netty, or Hetty, or Harry, in time.

"The family and I ask that her death also be a rallying call to all of us to be vigilant to our loved ones and their state of mind — a fleeting moment of weakness can last forever."

The fundraiser has already hit the £6,000 mark. You can read more about Netty's story, Essex & Herts Air Ambulance's work, and donate to the fundraiser here.

12 December 2024, 12:03
UCI to ban use of carbon monoxide in pro cycling due to "health side effects" – but says controversial rebreathing method can still be used "in a medical setting" to test riders' altitude training progress
12 December 2024, 10:50
"The correct use of language is essential to ensure we bring people's attention to the actual negligence present in so many of these collisions": Police to replace 'accident' for 'collision' on road signs
Newmarket Road fatal collision sign, Norwich (credit: Peter Silburn)

Regular road.cc contributor Laura has penned a piece for Fleet News communicating the update that police will be able to replace 'Police Accident' with 'Police Collision' on road signs and in-car messaging.

Campaigners and the National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) welcomed the move, the language used to better reflect the fact that many collisions are avoidable and the result of human behaviour, not simply chance accidents.

The Department for Transport (DfT) has granted police special authorisation to use collision instead.

> Police no longer describing road collisions as 'accidents' – but over two-thirds still refer to vehicles instead of drivers, new research finds

Commander Kyle Gordon from the NPCC called the news "another positive step" as "correct use of language is essential to ensure we bring people's attention to the actual negligence present in so many of these collisions".

"I know this change will be welcomed by our colleagues in policing who see first-hand the serious and long-lasting impact of collisions on individuals, families and communities. Five people killed and over 80 seriously injured on our roads every day is quite simply unacceptable," he said.

"The vast majority of these collisions are simply avoidable if people start to take seriously their own personal responsibility for safe use of the roads. The correct use of language is essential to ensure we bring people's attention to the actual negligence present in so many of these collisions in order to try and prevent this level of harm on our roads."

12 December 2024, 10:16
Shimano Hollowtech crank failures, one year on — how the component giant's handling of this dangerous debacle is continuing to damage its reputation
12 December 2024, 09:33
Bizarre story pro cyclist lost "100 thousand" betting on teammate Marcel Kittel at Tour de France... because he was eating a lot of pasta the night before a sprint
Ilnur Zakarin wins Giro 2015 Stage 11 in Imola (pciture ANSA, Dal Zennaro)

Ilnur Zakarin, now-retired but winner of two Giro d'Italia stages and one at the Tour de France during the mid-2010s, has taken to Facebook with a bizarre tale about how he lost "100 thousand" betting on teammate Marcel Kittel to win a Tour stage... because the German powerhouse was eating a lot of pasta the night before.

The source for this story is... Zakarin himself... the Russian rider telling fans via his verified Facebook account of the tale. Thanks to Google Translate, we can grab a hopefully accurate enough translation... although we'd give him some leeway with some of the wording.

I just saw that @marcelkittel liked the previous post, I immediately remembered the story with it. I was very fortunate that he and I got to go on the Tour de France on the same team. After the 17th stage, we met for dinner and I noticed he's already eating his third plate of pasta. I be like, “wat up bro?” He replies that he feels that I will win the stage tomorrow, and this feeling never fails him. I laughed, but I postponed the feeling information, because I feel the same. For a second, he won five stages of Tour de France a year earlier.

After dinner, I quickly got to my room and wrote to my homie to bet 100 thousand for Kittel to win. Koresh, who understands cycling, said it was a bad initiative. But emotions turned out to be stronger and I still bet on him.
Of course, I sent the money immediately and waited for the next day. The bet should work, and I will make a lot of money.

I woke up in the morning energetic and charged up and expecting a big meal. I wished Marcel good luck, and I covered him from the wind, fed and protected him all day. I fell behind to the finish line, and when I got there, I immediately asked how he finished? He calmly replied that something went wrong today. After that, I no longer bet on sports.

The only year Kittel and Zakarin rode the Tour as teammates was for Katusha in 2018, a year when the sprinter was over the time limit on stage 11, so possibly a bit of misremembering going on here (although Zakarin saying Kittel had won five stages the year previous does check out). 

The "100 thousand" is presumably Russian Ruble too, which would have been about £1,250 in July 2018.

12 December 2024, 08:58
Can they both lose? Lance Armstrong snaps back at Jake Paul 'call out' and promises controversial influencer an "ass whoopin'"

It's probably not top of the list of things we didn't expect to read this morning, but it's up there. Yep, this is the 'news' that disgraced retired pro cyclist Lance Armstrong appears to have nibbled a little too hard at what we're assuming was a light-hearted social media post from controversial (and easily hateable) influencer-turned-boxer Jake Paul. Yes, you all have permission to skip straight to the next live blog item...

For those who can bear to read on, Jake Paul is... the former Disney Channel actor who now fights opponents of a questionable ability in the boxing ring, most recently beating 58-year-old Mike Tyson. Let's not spend too long here, but for further reading Paul has a quite lengthy 'Controversies and legal issues' section on Wikipedia.

Anyway, we've mentioned him before on road.cc because his girlfriend, Jutta Leerdam, has been part of Team Visma-Lease a Bike's speed skating set-up so, when she trains on the bike, she has occasionally taken Paul with her. Cue much-ridiculed photos emerging on Instagram...

Lance Armstrong vs Jake Paul (Instagram)

"Can get in the ring with Tyson, but can't clip in?" the top comment on one Facebook re-sharing of that. To be perfectly honest, we're happy to see anyone cycling, especially a major celebrity with an enormous following. 

Paul went a little further and shared a video of him pedalling away on Instagram, taking the opportunity to tag a certain Lance Armstrong... "Lance Armstrong, I am coming," he yelled. "@lancearmstrong 1 v1 me," he wrote on the post. Now, as attention-seeking a figure as Paul is, that reads more like a joke, does it not? Obviously Paul would lose to Armstrong in any cycling event (a boxing bout is up for debate...), but the retired cyclist couldn't help himself but aggressively snap back...

"Child, please. You've been looking for an a** whoopin'. You found your place."

To which Paul responded, "Somebody tell him how many old guys I beat". Looks like our fantasy hill climb is off the table and we're moving towards something more combative. As sad/depressing/grim/*insert other horrified adjectives here* as it is, an Armstrong vs Paul boxing match would probably be the most publicity cycling (or more accurately, a disgraced former cyclist) has ever had.

Right, on with the readable stuff...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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belugabob replied to chrisonabike | 4 weeks ago
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Lincolnshire AND South Holland - good luck!

I've never cycled on the A16 and pretty sure I never would!  I was actually thinking about South Holland in that comment (I've some passing knowledge of the area), for example bits of the A15 have a footway, but then it does the UK thing of suddenly crossing the busy road, then kind of petering out.  And there's nothing at all in places.

But yes - I think Lincs generally will be the last place if the revolution comes.  LOTS of traffic and a terrible combination of indifferent maintenance (presumably because rural hence lots of road), agricultural / heavy freight lorries, some loooong straight roads encouraging drivers to "get up to speed" while you're struggling in the wind, but also narrow / winding stuff with poor sight lines.  Oh, and deep water-filled ditches next to the roads for you to meet your end in when the draft from a large lorry wafts you off.

As is often the case this also means it can be lovely, because rural, some roads extremely quiet, the west (east of A15) is actually rolling and not flat etc.

Surely Lincolnshire is a prime location for UK cycle infrastructure - after all, it's flat, so should assuage the most common excuse that people give when desperately trying to come up with reasons why we should follow the example set by the Netherlands...

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chrisonabike replied to belugabob | 4 weeks ago
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Don't worry! They've got plenty of others they can use!

https://cyclingfallacies.com/en/

(I would guess most places in Lincolnshire will be the last to change because most people don't want to! "Countryside, we have to drive" and of course outside of urban areas population is sparse so there is a lot of infra to add!)

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james-o | 1 month ago
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"For those who can bear to read on, Jake Paul is... ", in the age of social media viral reach, nothing less than a phenomenon and one of the canniest marketers out there - from not much to multi-millionaire at less than 30 years old? 

An unpopular opinion - he's a genius in his area, it's not like there's low competition for viral growth via attention-seeking.

In a sprint, after some training (which he'd get media value from) I wouldn't be too sure Armstrong would win. He probably could but it's the uncertainty that creates the value and Jake Paul knows it.

*Tyson pulled his punches, that fight was a sham and only won on points

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Miller replied to james-o | 1 month ago
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Jake Paul is exceptionally hateable but as the photo shows him using Campagnolo group and wheels, he can't be all bad. So there's that.

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bobbypuk replied to Miller | 1 month ago
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But it does grate a bit seeing trainers and flat pedals on a Colnago...

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brooksby replied to james-o | 1 month ago
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Is Jake Paul the one who launched a range of 'energy drinks' marketed at teenagers with dangerously high caffeine levels?

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chrisonabike replied to brooksby | 1 month ago
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Aren't most of them at it?  Perhaps though you are confusing Jake Paul with Logan Paul (easy done if not invested in the soshal meejas, I'm not 100% sure what each does and that they are indeed distinct).  Or KSI?

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mdavidford replied to chrisonabike | 1 month ago
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chrisonabike wrote:

Perhaps though you are confusing Jake Paul with Logan Paul (easy done if not invested in the soshal meejas, I'm not 100% sure what each does and that they are indeed distinct).

Or if they're equally a-paul-ling?

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brooksby replied to chrisonabike | 1 month ago
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chrisonabike wrote:

Aren't most of them at it?  Perhaps though you are confusing Jake Paul with Logan Paul (easy done if not invested in the soshal meejas, I'm not 100% sure what each does and that they are indeed distinct).  Or KSI?

Ah, OK: thanks.

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james-o replied to brooksby | 1 month ago
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That was his brother. It wasn't aimed at teens specifically but teens love a bit of youtube hype and brand rep. I don't think the caffiene levels were dangerous as such, heard it was higher than Red Bull by volume though.  

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james-o replied to james-o | 1 month ago
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"Prime Energy, which contains elevated levels of caffeine, has been banned or restricted from minors in multiple countries due to regulations limiting caffeine content.[29] The drink has also been banned in schools in several countries.[30][31]"

Here we go, wikipedia. High caffeine levels = banned. I'm sure that did nothing but add to the appeal in the main market .. might even wonder if it was intentional (don't get me wrong, I don't like any of this stuff)

'Concerns have been raised that Prime Energy drinks don't display caffeine warnings clearly enough to show they are unsuitable for children. It has been claimed the packaging on caffeinated and non-caffeinated versions of Prime is too similar. Prime Energy contains 140mg of caffeine per can, which is the equivalent of two cups of coffee or a double espresso.' 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-65601824

More interesting than Armstrong in general anyway .. 

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HLaB replied to james-o | 1 month ago
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I must admit I couldn't bare to read on.  Is he wanting to have a race or a fight with Lance for clicks? 

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mdavidford replied to HLaB | 1 month ago
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HLaB wrote:

Is he wanting to have a race or a fight with Lance for clicks? 

Maybe both - like chess boxing - 3 minute boxing rounds each separated by a crit lap.

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Secret_squirrel replied to james-o | 1 month ago
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Jake Pauls an utter cock womble but even I'd be briefly tempted to pay to see him give Lance a well deserved pummelling.

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james-o replied to Secret_squirrel | 1 month ago
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.. and there's where his value comes from, in one. 

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chrisonabike replied to james-o | 1 month ago
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Same idea as Gorgeous George (and no doubt many before)?  "A lot of people will pay to see someone shut your mouth."

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Gbjbanjs | 1 month ago
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Ignore them, they are both just desperate for any attention.

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brooksby | 1 month ago
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"Yee-haw!"

 

(Sorry - I read this article and this was the first thing that came to mind…).

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Clem Fandango | 1 month ago
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I went to see Stewart Lee's new show the other night.  All I can hear in my head when I see that photo of the influencer is - "I know what you're thinking.  Bradley Wiggins has let himself go"

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Samtheeagle replied to Clem Fandango | 1 month ago
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Excellent Stu Lee in the know ref.

 

Wouldnt it be great if the JP v LA match could be on Zwift so all us cycling "old people" could join in with the intimidation?

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SimoninSpalding replied to Clem Fandango | 1 month ago
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NO SPOILERS PLEEAASSSE!!!

SL doesn't get to our neck of the woods until April, I have our tickets and I am looking forward to it!

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Clem Fandango replied to SimoninSpalding | 1 month ago
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It's a great show - I'll leave it at that.

Obviously though, don't go & see him if you don't know things  1

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ktache replied to Clem Fandango | 1 month ago
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I was in awe of his comedy craft when I saw him at Reading's Hexagon back in February, the first half was incredible, the second wasn't quite up to the impressiveness of the first, but you could still hear the effort he puts into every line.

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