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Filtering cyclist who was threatened by driver blamed by police

GMP imply cyclist is guilty of a criminal offence

A Manchester cyclist who was threatened by a driver after filtering past stationary traffic has been warned by Greater Manchester Police (GMP) that his “behaviour in this regard is to cease.”

In the video above, shot yesterday morning, the cyclist, Sam, can be seen pulling onto Princess Street and filtering between two lanes of traffic queuing at a set of lights.

Filtering is not illegal. The Highway Code says that people should “be aware of other road users, especially cycles and motorcycles who may be filtering through the traffic.”

British Cycling gives advice on filtering on the inside, outside and between lanes.

As Sam nears the lights, they change to green, at which point he attempts to pull back into the line of traffic on his left.

The woman driving on his inside doesn’t let him in and tells him he should be riding on the left.

Sam points out he is not obliged to.

The dispute escalates and finishes with the motorist threatening to knock Sam off ‘next time’.

Sam, who said the driver had also been on the phone, subsequently sent the footage to GMP.

The officer who responded said: “This video clip shows you squeezing between vehicles and the lights changing then you being alongside entering into an argument with the driver of a moving vehicle.

“To be clear your behaviour in this regard is to cease.

“I understand your wish to help improve road safety, this is not the way to do it, it is not the intention of the service we offer and if repeated I will direct my team to consider criminal offences.”

GMP were contacted for comment.

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disherwood | 4 years ago
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Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to disherwood | 4 years ago
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disherwood wrote:

Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

I realise you have popped on to troll, however tell me where he is weaving in and out of traffic in that video. I suspect you also didn't watch the advice one from British Cycling which explains exactly what he was doing. And he was only stating the 1,5 m rule to ensure she didn't veer into him whilst shouting shit advice of someone who doesn't know what filtering is and why ASL's take the whole lane and not just a small section on the left. 

 

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CXR94Di2 replied to disherwood | 4 years ago
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disherwood wrote:

Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

He went down the cycle lane amd filtered between stationary traffic. Was then blocked and threatened to be knocked off. The police are so wrong in their response and you have no idea what its like to ride a bicycle in a city

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FluffyKittenofT... replied to disherwood | 4 years ago
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disherwood wrote:

Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

 

Another troll.  Yawn.

 

The safe passing distance doesn't apply to cyclists filtering past motorists, because, dimwit, cyclists don't present a danger to a near stationary car.  It's really not the same thing - please try to understand basic physics before somebody dies.

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Projectcyclingf... replied to disherwood | 4 years ago
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disherwood wrote:

Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

Obviously you are much too lazy to use your legs to get around and rather drive as do so many like you and selfishly, pollute the air we breath and poisoning children to the extent that you are killing them in the 000s. Not only that, you are responsible for causing gridlocks by block up roads and obsructing and causing a hazzard 2-wheeled transport. You should be fined for blocking roads up and points on your licience and you should be forced to breath in your own exaust fumes.

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bikeman01 replied to disherwood | 4 years ago
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disherwood wrote:

Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

Hey dishcloth, or whatever your name is, why don't you fuck off back to the daily mail website. 

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OldRidgeback replied to disherwood | 4 years ago
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disherwood wrote:

Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

You need to reread The Highway Code as soon as possible. Filtering by cyclists and motorcyclists is allowed in the UK. If you find this hard to deal with, I strongly suggest you take some frefresher lessons to improve your driving. If you still find that too much, perhaps you should give up driving altogether as you are clearly not fit to be trusted with a motor vehicle, especially when there are vulnerable road users at risk from your inadquate driving ability.

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disherwood | 4 years ago
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Brilliant !......well done the police.

Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to  other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more  stressful.

This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself.  I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.

Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.

Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is.......get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.

 

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ktache | 4 years ago
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I cannot see anything the cyclist doing that was wrong, let alone against the law.

Good video from BC on filtering, well done for showing it, I will be watching all of the commuting videos from them at some point, you never know, there may have been something I have not yet figured out yet.

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mdavidford replied to ktache | 4 years ago
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ktache wrote:

I cannot see anything the cyclist doing that was wrong, let alone against the law.

Well, to be picky...

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The officer who responded said: “This video clip shows you squeezing between vehicles and the lights changing then you being alongside entering into an argument

 

...the cyclist does hang around in a lane for oncoming right-turning traffic in order to continue the argument, instead of completing their overtaking manoeuvre as soon as they can. Hardly warrants this kind of threatening cease-and-desist language though - a simple suggestion that this wasn't the best decision making would have done. Nor is it any excuse for not pursuing a threat of violence against them. And the implication that they shouldn't be filtering is just plain wrong.

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crazy-legs | 4 years ago
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Yep, GM Police are up there with Hampshire as being some of the most anti-cycling around. There are one or two good ones, sadly most are utterly clueless about cycling and - judging from the appalling standards of driving in the city - not remotely inclined to do anything about improving road safety either.

The state of the roads in and around Manchester, the traffic on them and the atrocious "cycling infrastructure" all combine to engineer and create conflict rather than mitigate it. I'll keep a look out for that car, I'm sure I'll see it stuck in a traffic jam soon!

 

edit: just watched the video again and fuck me, the SIZE of that car?!

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cycle.london | 4 years ago
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I reported this last year - taxi driver glibly reading a newspaper as he drives along. 

https://youtu.be/QM5bOiQnIiA

The Met refused to prosecute, on the grounds that a full 30+ seconds after I saw him reading his newspaper, I rode to the right of a set of cones.

The useless twats can't even lie convincingly.

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Hirsute replied to cycle.london | 4 years ago
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cycle.london wrote:

I reported this last year - taxi driver glibly reading a newspaper as he drives along. 

https://youtu.be/QM5bOiQnIiA

The Met refused to prosecute, on the grounds that a full 30+ seconds after I saw him reading his newspaper, I rode to the right of a set of cones.

The useless twats can't even lie convincingly.

What?!

So your "crime" invalidates the actions of the taxi driver ???

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

cycle.london wrote:

I reported this last year - taxi driver glibly reading a newspaper as he drives along. 

https://youtu.be/QM5bOiQnIiA

The Met refused to prosecute, on the grounds that a full 30+ seconds after I saw him reading his newspaper, I rode to the right of a set of cones.

The useless twats can't even lie convincingly.

What?!

So your "crime" invalidates the actions of the taxi driver ???

Most of the T and C's of these video uploads also state that the Police have to chase all offenses seen in the video including the submitting persons one. It was hard to tell he was reading it and not say, moving it somewhere else though so I doubt it would have been chased up, however I didn't know bollards randomly dumped in parts of the road indicated don't drive around them? How would you know whic was the legal side?

 

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crazy-legs replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

What?!
So your "crime" invalidates the actions of the taxi driver ???

That's not uncommon. The police often want to see 2 mins before and 2 mins after the incident you're reporting and if your riding is anything less than what they deem as perfect cycling, the complaint will be thrown out because you were doing something dangerous, illegal, inciting, selfish or wrong. Or what they think constitutes any of those. Too far out from the kerb, too close to it, too fast, too slow. Wrong side of a traffic island. Escaping being squashed by mounting the pavement. That's not the fault of the driver turning into you obviously, that's you committing a crime by riding on the pavement...

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ChrisB200SX | 4 years ago
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I wonder what Chris Boardman would say about GMP's response?

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Jackson | 4 years ago
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This country is nuts

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the little onion | 4 years ago
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Institutionally anti cyclist

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brimstone | 4 years ago
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The cyclist was 100% in the right and the car driver 100% in the wrong; put a complaint in to the PCC - it's the only way to go with this one.

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StuInNorway | 4 years ago
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Offences commited by cyclist : 0
Offences commited by driver : Several.
Passing the stop line before the lights go green (She's rolling into the ASL over her stop line before the lights changed, without this fact he might well have got fully clear of her)
Agrevated and threatening behaviour : Making a definitive threat to assault him in the future.
Mobile use (from Cyclist's verbal evidence, although didn't see it on film)

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to StuInNorway | 4 years ago
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StuInNorway wrote:

Offences commited by cyclist : 0
Offences commited by driver : Several.
Passing the stop line before the lights go green (She's rolling into the ASL over her stop line before the lights changed, without this fact he might well have got fully clear of her)
Agrevated and threatening behaviour : Making a definitive threat to assault him in the future.
Mobile use (from Cyclist's verbal evidence, although didn't see it on film)

Erm, that was the white car (and bus) in front. Still offences by drivers, just not her.

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Toffee | 4 years ago
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Would love to know what criminal offence the officer would consider. If only it was his job to know the law.

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hawkinspeter replied to Toffee | 4 years ago
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Toffee wrote:

Would love to know what criminal offence the officer would consider. If only it was his job to know the law.

Probably "using the public road whilst on a bicycle".

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mrchrispy | 4 years ago
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yup, complain.  I'd be willing to let them try and bring a case.
Clear threat made against him to cause bodily harm....how the F can the police totaly ignore it.

I cycle down there reguarly and its a total nightmre, good on him for remaining polite. 

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brooksby | 4 years ago
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If he's a commuter, and so is she, then they probably go along a similar route each day. If there was another incident involving the same driver and the same cyclist, and he did get knocked off, would it be aggravated by being clearly premeditated?  (after all, we have it on film that she's promised to knock him off 'next time'...?).

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BrokenBootneck | 4 years ago
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Ah she was in a rush to get the arse of the next vehicle along and wait in traffic to be delayed by a second or two. 

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hawkinspeter | 4 years ago
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Well, that's a very clear case of "raise a complaint against the police" if ever I saw one. How can they ignore blatant threats from the car driver?

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