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@Borisface No one questioned your experience or knowledge. It's irrelevant, because your comment doesn't show any sign of that experience or knowledge.
The comments on this thread mirror the comments I get when I roll out with my steel bike, a Fairlight Strael, to a group ride. Some people think it is a thing of beauty and like the idea, others don't understand why I have spent that kind of money on something that isn't carbon and weighs a bit more. I have a carbon race bike with aero tweaks. I love it for the chain gang and other fast paced riding, but when I was out on my own this weekend the steel bike was a joy to ride. Proper mud guards are back on, and it even looks good to me with those fitted. I think Mason, and Fairlight, know that there is a chunk of the market that will not be interested in a steel / alloy bike, but there will be enough customers willing to spend their cash on nice versions. If that is not you @Borisface, that is fine. I have not ridden a Mason, but I would like to. I fondly remember my Kinesis T2, bought as a full bike on the cycle-to-work scheme many years ago. The frame is still going strong, currently sitting on my son's turbo trainer.
@Rendel Harris With all the regular stories of shockingly reckless, and sometimes deliberately aggressive, drivers who end up seriously injuring or even killing cyclists we read, it is hard to be shocked anymore by the next such story. However, this story, and that behaviour - stopping to try pull the man out, failing, then continuing on and veering from side to side to dislodge the *still alive* cyclist from under the car - has managed to shock me. It is incomprehensible. How could anyone do that to another person? Not just deliberate murder, but murder with the certain knowledge that it would lead to a prolonged, slow, gruesome, most painful death. And he did this with a *passenger* with him in the car!
@Freddy56 Following that line of reasoning, what's next? Will the First Aid volunteers be replaced by a First Aid kit and a a kiosk computer with ChatGPT to tell you how to take care of yourself? The announcer replaced by a computer voice, spitting out names based on race bibs and facial recognition? Have some pride, man. If you cannot organise an event in a proper way, with human attention and care, then don't. Just don't. Events don't have to be perfect. Perfection is not to be expected of things that are mostly run by volunteers. And perfection is overrated anyway. But they should feel human. You should feel the enthusiasm and the pride of the organisers and volunteers. An event with an AI poster send the very opposite message, and it is reason for me not to even consider partaking.
@sheridan This is an opinion piece (it's clearly labelled as such at the top). I'm not clear what facts are in dispute - the article was in response to the existence of AI-generated promotional images for the races, and those clearly do exist.
@Freddy56 Nice assumptions.
@Borisface With all that experience I find it odd you'd dismiss by all accounts an absolutely brilliant bike simply because of it's frame material. Are you worried what people might think or something?
@This Wreckage You must have missed that story about a park which has a cycle park with no (legal by byelaw) entry. Hint - it wasn't in London.
@DS2025 It does make the club look rubbish, if I hadn't had time to have a look in the comments today I'd have been left with a bad impression of the club. Journalism is supposed to involve checking source, researching and following up leads - I presume this article was written by a reader as an opinion piece and not a paid journalist?
@brogs Five years to reply to a comment must be some sort of record. It's a shame that it's absolute nonsense then. Most drivers believe they are more skilful than they are (surveys have demonstrated that up to 93% of drivers believe their driving is better than average) and have an attitude that they are safe at speeds at which they are not. That's why we have speed limits. With 35 million or so drivers in the country it's both hopeless and ridiculous to say "let's not bother with speed limits, let's change skills and attitudes", it's not going to happen and drivers have consistently proved that they are not sufficiently responsible to behave in a safe manner, that's why they need restrictions. Seriously, "speeding kills nobody it's simply the act of exceeding a number on a sign", tell that to the parents who lose their child because they were hit by somebody driving at 30 mph in a 20 mph zone so didn't have time to stop when the child unexpectedly ran into the street.
21 thoughts on “Live blog: Full reaction to Sky pulling sponsorship including Brailsford and Froome, Thomas looks back on Tour de France success, Vaughters says news a “wake up call” to the sport + more”
As it says on the bike in the
As it says on the bike in the picture it’s Mclaren, McClaren are the ones who make prams/buggies.
RobD wrote:
No, the prams are Maclaren. McClaren is a football manager.
Mark B wrote:
Also debatable
kil0ran wrote:
Must be the Dutch spelling.
Sniffer wrote:
Eh, not Mclaren, McClaren or Maclaren, it’s actually McLaren, but whatever.
bigblue wrote:
It was a reference to Steve’s famous interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhtq1ObGHy8
Sorry it passed you by.
RobD wrote:
Gets it right on the headline, gets it wrong THREE TIMES in the story. Yesus.
That’s what happens when go
That’s what happens when go for team ride with a dildo on your bike. Joke’s on them now.
Actual problem is more likely the STUPID amount of money Sky has sunk into F1 and the like and it actually has competition these days.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
they should go for sponsorship from KY jelly, then they won’t have to change the branding very much, and they get some excellent lube for their bottom brackets.
ConcordeCX wrote:
Or for the full money-shot they could just get a porn company to sponsor them, after all there is a precedent:
https://road.cc/content/news/179795-only-italy-worlds-3rd-biggest-porn-site-sponsors-cycling-team
I hope they do manage to find
I hope they do manage to find a replacement sponsor, I do wonder how much of a budget drop they have worked out they can take without it becoming a different kind of team.
Surprising that the new Sky owners have decided to pull the plug though, at the end of the day the bad publicity seems to have mostly passed, and with it being such a tiny part of their marketing budget you’d think it’d be an easy option to keep going with it, after all they’re the highest profile team out there.
I’m wondering which other companies with big enough marketing budgets could actually step in, particularly with the heavily European focus to most of the season, and an image that would fit somehow with cycling.
This is the only sponsorship
This is the only sponsorship choice now
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
We’ve seen these as cycle team sponsors, wouldn’t be the worst cycle sponsor by any stretch …
The dildo does suggest that
The dildo does suggest that BBC might be a good sponsor
These relationships can’t
These relationships can’t last forever.. a ten or eleven year agreement at that level has been frankly magical for British Cycling results.
Also Sky from a ‘sponsorship’ perspective have surely gained as much as they can from the deal (however they measure it). I’ve personally really enjoyed seeing team sky on those sky vans up and down the country…
I hope that Sky will be replaced, if anyone can approach the issue of cycling sponsorship in a different more global thinking manner, then it’ll be that team surely.
Cycling is a huge sport, but the likes of QuickStep appear to not have a clue when it comes to getting sponsorship.. it’s incredulous to think that the best team in the world by far in 2018 struggled to get a decent sponsor for next season, I’m pretty sure they’ve secured Flemish Fish Flans of Flanders for next season…
Skexit?
Skexit?
Would love to know the sorts
Would love to know the sorts of clauses riders who’ve just signed new contracts have, if any.
Egan Bernal signed an unprecedented 5 year deal this summer and Thomas has just signed up for another 2-3.
That’s the Oracle shopping
That’s the Oracle shopping centre in Reading, outside Vue cinema – I’ve seen that guy around there a few times, as it seems to be the hang-out point for Deliveroo riders.
There’s also a guy (might be the same one) on a neon pink Planet-X TT bike.
Yes, it’s the Oracle in
Yes, it’s the Oracle in Reading. Haven’t seen Sky deliveroo bloke in a while, my impression is that cycling enthusiasts aren’t as enthusiastic about deliveroo as they were at the beginning. Your deliveroo contractor is moving to electric bikes is my impression.
What’s the story regarding
What’s the story regarding dildos and Ann summers? Very confused am I
Given the dildo thing and
Given the dildo thing and that Sky are a media company, the next sponsor has to be Virgin.