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Live blog: Jenny Graham smashes round-the-world record, protest organised against lack of police action over spate of bike muggings in Manchester, new 3T Exploro + more
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Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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wtjs 1 hour ago
I hope the government displays the correct 'moral fibre' attitude and also piles on the Fuel Price Escalator
wtjs 1 hour ago
I can't leave this 'ER' stuff unchallenged! We do not say ER!!
60somethingcyclist 2 hours ago
I was around in 1973 and remember the impact that the oil crisis and the subsequent oil price hikes had. That was a missed opportunity; this may be the second chance we've been waiting 52 years for. Hasn't come to that yet, but we need to be ready if it does.
mark1a 3 hours ago
[placeholder for obligatory picture meme of Inigo Montoya]
mdavidford 5 hours ago
I think you're going to need to be more specific, because no-one can tell who or what you're responding to.
Blackthorne83 5 hours ago
That word… it doesn’t mean what you think it means.
eburtthebike 5 hours ago
"I see many children in the ER with life altering injuries caused by crashing bikes while not wearing helmets. I also hear stories from paramedics about children who don’t even live long enough after a crash to get to the ER. Same with adults, but less so." Again, observer bias writ large. Do you also see the many, many more people who die because of obesity and associated illnesses because they didn't cycle? The health benefits of cycling outweigh the negatives by a huge margin, but this is never acknowledged by ER staff who only see dead/injured cyclists not the people who die from not cycling. Just because you see something doesn't mean it is universal, and there is much more too it than just ER. "Listen to the people whose job it is to scrape you off the road." Why would I listen to people with such a narrow viewpoint that they can't acknowledge that there is more too it than just what they see? People who literally don't understand that it's far bigger than them and their skewed views. "Wear a helmet, don’t trash people who do, and don’t nitpick about whether a helmet saved a life – if she thinks it did, that’s her right." No, I won't wear a helmet, that's my choice and having read a lot about it, that is completely justified. I don't tell people what to do, maybe you could do the same? I do suggest that they go and look at the evidence and data, otherwise, like you, they might be arguing from a false premise. She is entitled to think that a helmet saved her life, and it isn't nitpicking to say that is extremely unlikely, given the data. It also isn't nitpicking to point out that her sponsors likely include the company that made the helmet.
hawkinspeter 6 hours ago
I'd rather listen to the people who are working to prevent so many traffic collisions. There's no clear evidence that helmets do anything to make cyclists safer (though there is limited evidence to suggest that bike helmets make cyclists less safe) though they do provide a small amount of protection that is likely ineffective in multi-vehicle collisions. You're using a strange logic really. I wouldn't head straight to rubbish collectors to inform me about the best shopping decisions, though it is clearly their job to collect the remnants of my shopping. Similarly, I wouldn't go to a sewer engineer to get the best health advice to keep my toilets regular etc. To be honest, your mention of "children in the ER" seems like an emotional distraction technique to prevent people from thinking clearly.
Terry Hutt 7 hours ago
I see many children in the ER with life altering injuries caused by crashing bikes while not wearing helmets. I also hear stories from paramedics about children who don't even live long enough after a crash to get to the ER. Same with adults, but less so. Listen to the people whose job it is to scrape you off the road. Wear a helmet, don't trash people who do, and don't nitpick about whether a helmet saved a life - if she thinks it did, that's her right.
hawkinspeter 9 hours ago
Likely due to the right wing oligarchs that almost all our media. Even the BBC is right wing and will even frame questions using a far right wing world view when interviewing Greens or Lib Dems (are they even still around?).
17 thoughts on “Live blog: Jenny Graham smashes round-the-world record, protest organised against lack of police action over spate of bike muggings in Manchester, new 3T Exploro + more”
I’ve always wanted my bike to
I’ve always wanted my bike to ride itself, leaving me to watch tele and get fat while notching up all those verifiable Strava miles
MarkiMark wrote:
it gives the autonomous cars something to aim at
From the Irish Article…..
From the Irish Article…..
“He told me he saw the cyclist ahead of him. He told me he saw the cyclist turn his head but the cyclist did not alter his position on the road,” Garda Vance said.
Ms Harrington, who was in the front seat, heard a bang and her husband realised the car had collided with the bicycle as they passed.
Mr Carney was not wearing a helmet or high visibility clothing, the court heard.
Forensic Collision Investigator Garda John Culleton said both the car and the bicycle were travelling in the same direction at a similar speed along Butterfield Park when the collision occurred.
“Both parties were travelling alongside and either could have encroached on the other. One moved towards the other and contact was made.
“I cannot say who made the contact between these vehicles. There was contact between both parties but I can’t say who made the manoeuvre that resulted in contact,” Garda Culleton said.
The jury of three women and three men returned a verdict of accidental death and made a recommendation that all cyclists wear helmets.
FFS!
Deeferdonk wrote:
Quite staggering. What else can be said?
Regarding the inquest verdict
Regarding the inquest verdict, despite the driver admitting he saw the cyclist and that the cyclist didn’t alter direction (read – didn’t get out of the way), the cyclist ends up dead despite what’s practically an admission of fault the old victim blaming should wear a helmet nonsense appears again. Not a word about drivers taking more care and overtaking safely.
The three men and three women of the jury should be made watch the effect of a ton+ of metal rolling over a foam hat (I’m not completely sadistic – I wouldn’t insist their heads be in it at the time) to see what utter pointless shite that is as a verdict
JMcL_Ireland wrote:
Clearly the three men and three women of the jury haven’t been told what a bicycle helmet is – and isn’t! – designed to help protect the wearer from…
brooksby wrote:
Spot on there!
77 years old, eh? Probably
77 years old, eh? Probably been driving the thick end of 60 years without any further scrutiny. Eyesight could be shot as well.
vonhelmet wrote:
In a fair and reasonable society, they would obviously have checked his eyesight at around the same time they checked that he wasn’t drunk etc.
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What is the possible relevance of this given that the motorist and his wife both admitted having seen him?
I saw the cyclist ahead of me
I saw the cyclist ahead of me and decided to run him over anyway.
On what informed basis, having regard to all the benefits and cons of a helmet did they come up with that recommendation?
How about recommending that drivers don’t run cyclists over? That drivers give an appropriate amount of room? That drivers don’t drive right next to a cyclist, maintaining the same speed?
Oh on their lack of facts basis, drivers of that age need to pass a retest and eye test before being allowed to drive.
hirsute wrote:
Ah, but remember: “the cyclist did not alter his position on the road“. Clearly his fault, then…
You wonder how it’s possible
You wonder how it’s possible to have a fatal accident on a residential street like this…
Until you look at google maps and see how it’s a great little rat-run parallel to a main road. Perfect if the rush hour traffic is bad and you’re running late on your way to the train station. Maybe…
Surely the police can tell
Surely the police can tell where the car hit him ? If the damage is at the front he’s just run him down.
If it’s the side it’s more complicated.
RIP fellow cyclist.
We’re not sure if he forced
We’re not sure if he forced his penis inside of her or whether due to his close proximity she fell onto his exposed penis, so accidental ‘relations’, the rape cannot be proven. The victim was wearing a low cut top, short skirt and was walking down a street minding her own business, we recommend long dresses, big baggy tops and chasisty belts for all women.
Fucking cunts.
Hopefully this gets taken to
Hopefully this gets taken to a court of appeal, with expert witnesses for the deceased. That summary of facts sounds like an admission of guilt to me
Professor Mingguo Zhao, who
Professor Mingguo Zhao, who led the team that developed the bike, said:“Our project is about how a bicycle can keep its balance like a human. We chose the most similar method to a human, making use of centrifugal force produced by controlling the handlebar to keep balance,”
Nope. No such thing as centrifugal force. What sort of professor makes that statement?