Geraint Thomas says he doesn't envy Brailsford having to make Wiggins Tour de France call

chiv30 wrote:

So there you go ....confirmation of what I said in the wiggo gutted thread.....nothing finalised and its wiggo basically taking himself out of the TdF not DB .....

Perhaps now all the ppl spouting its froomes fault can eat their words and realise it's their idol wiggo that's the problem and nobody else ....

Did someone mention prima donna?

I began reading this post, and though 'finally, someone who got it', but then I continued and read more vitriolic diatribe from the uninformed.

Have you watched the BBC interview with Brad? If not, may I suggest you do, sometimes reading the transcript doesn't describe context, when you do watch it, you'll see that Brad appeared genuine.

These guys are professional sportsman, and I'm sure both Brad and Chris are sick of all the talk. You think two professional footballers who play premier league, and also in the national time are gonna be best mates?

If you knew Brad, you'd realise something that most of us who do, already know, he speaks his mind, he's honest, something rare, and displayed at the 2012 TDF when asked about all the doping speculation, the press room actually applauded his comments.
Froome is no different to Kevin Pieterson, he doesn't integrate, he's not loved by his adopted country, and has done nothing to change that.
A top level sportsperson doesn't have to be liked, and they all have arrogant streaks, something that you need to succeed, and after all, it's a job to these guys, and they need to earn money, cycling is a short career, and 2 years earning a couple of million, means little if you stop earning at the age 35.

madonepro wrote:

chiv30 wrote:

So there you go ....confirmation of what I said in the wiggo gutted thread.....nothing finalised and its wiggo basically taking himself out of the TdF not DB .....

Perhaps now all the ppl spouting its froomes fault can eat their words and realise it's their idol wiggo that's the problem and nobody else ....

Did someone mention prima donna?

I began reading this post, and though 'finally, someone who got it', but then I continued and read more vitriolic diatribe from the uninformed.

Have you watched the BBC interview with Brad? If not, may I suggest you do, sometimes reading the transcript doesn't describe context, when you do watch it, you'll see that Brad appeared genuine.

These guys are professional sportsman, and I'm sure both Brad and Chris are sick of all the talk. You think two professional footballers who play premier league, and also in the national time are gonna be best mates?

If you knew Brad, you'd realise something that most of us who do, already know, he speaks his mind, he's honest, something rare, and displayed at the 2012 TDF when asked about all the doping speculation, the press room actually applauded his comments.
Froome is no different to Kevin Pieterson, he doesn't integrate, he's not loved by his adopted country, and has done nothing to change that.
A top level sportsperson doesn't have to be liked, and they all have arrogant streaks, something that you need to succeed, and after all, it's a job to these guys, and they need to earn money, cycling is a short career, and 2 years earning a couple of million, means little if you stop earning at the age 35.

Yes I saw the interview , however that is irrelevant.

The simple fact of the matter is wiggo has removed himself from this yrs tdf because he doesn't want to ride for froome in a super dom role .....

DB hasn't finalised the squad it's that simple .

I'm sure within a year it will all come out the wiggo simply refused to accept the team plan and because of that made a personal choice not to ride

madonepro wrote:

chiv30 wrote:

So there you go ....confirmation of what I said in the wiggo gutted thread.....nothing finalised and its wiggo basically taking himself out of the TdF not DB .....

Perhaps now all the ppl spouting its froomes fault can eat their words and realise it's their idol wiggo that's the problem and nobody else ....

Did someone mention prima donna?

I began reading this post, and though 'finally, someone who got it', but then I continued and read more vitriolic diatribe from the uninformed.

Have you watched the BBC interview with Brad? If not, may I suggest you do, sometimes reading the transcript doesn't describe context, when you do watch it, you'll see that Brad appeared genuine.

These guys are professional sportsman, and I'm sure both Brad and Chris are sick of all the talk. You think two professional footballers who play premier league, and also in the national time are gonna be best mates?

If you knew Brad, you'd realise something that most of us who do, already know, he speaks his mind, he's honest, something rare, and displayed at the 2012 TDF when asked about all the doping speculation, the press room actually applauded his comments.
Froome is no different to Kevin Pieterson, he doesn't integrate, he's not loved by his adopted country, and has done nothing to change that.
A top level sportsperson doesn't have to be liked, and they all have arrogant streaks, something that you need to succeed, and after all, it's a job to these guys, and they need to earn money, cycling is a short career, and 2 years earning a couple of million, means little if you stop earning at the age 35.

Not to say I told you so but I'm guessing your further lack of comment on how honest
wiggo is is due to you reading that DB has publicly stated the team hasn't been picked thus giving my original post credence.......

I suspect Brailsford is trying to take the heat off Froome, by saying 'it's my decision' - so Froome doesn't get blamed for excluding Wiggins from the Tour.

Brailsford must know by now whether he thinks Froome and Wiggins can ride together or not. He says the decision hasn't been made, but it's probably closer to the truth to say it hasn't been announced.

HarrogateSpa wrote:

I suspect Brailsford is trying to take the heat off Froome, by saying 'it's my decision' - so Froome doesn't get blamed for excluding Wiggins from the Tour.

Brailsford must know by now whether he thinks Froome and Wiggins can ride together or not. He says the decision hasn't been made, but it's probably closer to the truth to say it hasn't been announced.

I've just posted on another thread so I wont repeat the whole thing here, but the decision was made a while back to leave Wiggins out, and this is just Brailsford playing for time, and trying to shield Froome from shtick.

Hell, its not as though Brailsford has a blemish-free track record when it comes to being 100% straight with his comments.

chiv30 wrote:

wiggo basically taking himself out of the TdF not DB .....
it's their idol wiggo that's the problem and nobody else ....

Did someone mention prima donna?

Don't think that's quite fair, is it? In the interview he's saying as it stands there's no place for him. DB now saying 'team not finalised', this doesn't necessarily contradict and I imagine Wiggins knows more than we do, esp. as its widely understood Froome has a say in selecting the team. He has repeatedly said he wants to be in the TDF starting in Yorkshire, I've no reason to disbelieve that. As others have said, he's an honest guy and speaks his mind. A PR nightmare, I'm sure, but better than releasing a book just before the tour which slags off his rival, like Froome has done.

It seems likely Froome doesn't want him undermining his chances as a leader of the team, as Froome appeared to do to Wiggins when he attacked him in 2012.

So if he's not picked, then its a decision based on egos and personality rather than form alone. A shame as Wiggins can destroy a peloton uphill, look what he did at tour of California. That would be so useful to Froome if he could get over his issues.