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Whatever the configuration of the 15 cyclists, on most roads, if you've got a whole bunch of oncoming, you aren't going anywhere past them in a hurry. No cars/less cars = no problem/ less problem.
Cycling in a group or cycling alone, there are a minority of drivers who will always consider your presence on the road to be inconsiderate.
https://youtu.be/mzezPD1JpjA
https://youtu.be/nS1Rnwjzdl4
Neither is it just cyclists who are a target for their aggression, evidenced by no end of driver on driver road rage videos.
I feel you have bought into the whole manufactured nonsense of driver v cyclist and the myth that cyclists are a significant cause of traffic delays. You are seeking to address this "problem" by insisting that the person on the bicycle never makes an error of judgement and always prioritises the driver in any shared road use situation. You can dress that up as common sense, cyclist will always come of worse, shouldn't use the road for recreational activities etc, but maybe you should focus on the inconsiderate and far more hazardous actions of the angry driver demographic.
One group riding 2 abreast would be even easier to pass but most drivists would complain about having to cross the centre line. Riding 2 abreast would also make it easier to communicate up and down the group so the ride leader could make a decision about what best to do quicker.
In almost 40 years of driving, I reckon I can add up all the time I have lost to cyclists in terms of minutes. Traffic on motorways alone must equate to several days.
Not sure I can recall being significantly delayed behind a very large group of cyclists, abreast or single file, ever.
As a loose rule, club rides tend to split into groups of 8 or less. Easier for the group to keep together at junctions and to communicate.
It's fairly rare, just surprised a club didn't follow what you have outlined.
Just for clarity, this is not particularly for convenience of motorists. If anything 2 small groups with a gap can be more difficult for a low ability driver to cope with than one larger group. It is more that we are not professional cyclists used to bunch riding beyond weekend club rides. Also not riding on closed roads, so groups of 8 is just easier for us to keep organised, keep together and ride neat and tidy.
I've been stuck behind a large chaotic group once or twice, for about five minutes. Not the most annoying, but I would expect any group who knew what they were doing to go side by side or split into smaller groups. The last time, the leader looked embarrassed when they finally organised to let me pass.
my club try and stick to groups of 10 but sometimes it's not possible, just be thankful we don't roll out in a 35 cyclist peloton and flex our Highway Code heirachical position
True but 35 would just encourage people to push for insurance/tax & registration.
I do pay tax like a car, free less than x g/km of carbon, like my petrol car is free. We're registered with British cycling, and I have third party insurance. So you're saying we should ride in a 30 peloton, great news! 😍😍
I have seen largeish groups.
Did get "held up," by 6 or so once who wouldn't group.
Saw about 10 coming the other way once.
Despaired because they would have been safer as 2 or 3 abreast.
Most bizarre was about 30 led by someone in a Santa costume ( again coming the other way). Utterly clueless about how to cycle as a group (NSL as well !!)
As a motorist, I've never come across that situation. As a cyclist, I come across the converse all the time.
Surprisingly they were from a club, yes its very rare, but I would expect club cyclists to be a bit more aware.
Yes, did overtake a club once on a mass ride. They were in separate, large groups.
Which is normal practice I think.
Well, it depends. If the road is wide enough so that a safe pass can be made within the lane (like here), then that's no problem at all.
If you would need to occupy the oncoming lane to make a safe pass, then they should ideally be two abreast to reduce the overtaking distance. Sticking as one group is better on roads with long straight sections, splitting into two groups might be better on roads with shorter straight sections.
If the road is busy, then sometimes two groups might be better, but if they're only on that road for a short while, then it might be better to stay as one group to dissuade pointless overtaking.
There are no hard and fast rules about this. As a driver, you just have to deal with what you have in front of you. Sometimes that's a long line of 15 cyclists (pretty rare I would think, I don't recall ever encountering such a situation in over 30 years of driving), sometimes it's a slow lorry or a tractor, or just simply a traffic jam.
No chance of over taking safely. Yes it is rare.
I am not aware of a law/guidance preventing it, but like you I would find it annoying as both a cyclist trying to pass them and as a drivist.
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