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Bicycle accessory ideas (Kickstarter style)

Hi all,

So I struggle to stop my brain thinking about gadgets and accessories for bikes and how they can be designed, manufactured and improved, I'm doing an engineering degree so I guess it's just the way I think about things.

I see a lot of these Kickstarter projects etc aimed at us cyclists, a common reaction is that the idea is a bit unnecessary. Out of curiosity, what bicycle related ideas would you like to see come to life?

Cheers!

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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Canyon48 | 8 years ago
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Oh dear god, what have I started haha

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StraelGuy | 8 years ago
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That's an awesome idea Python. If some asshole close passes you, you just fire a jolt of EMP into the car disabling it and you can happily cycle past and on your way as he rolls to a halt in the road yes !

 

I fear it would require rather a large battery unfortunately.

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The Rake | 8 years ago
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Something that tells me exactly where the creaking is coming from

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HowardR | 8 years ago
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Many of the ideas in bicycle design have far longer tails than most people might suspect. Towards the arse end in the nineteenth century, when queen Victoria was till on the throne & the Wright bro’s hadn’t yet flown, you could have potentially had a full suspension bike with disk brakes, alloy rims & ‘clipless’ pedals.

Take a look at "Bicycle Design - An illustrated history" –  http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/bicycle-design- for a good insight into what has already been tried, not always successfully the 1’st time around.

I’d be tempted to suggest that the areas that present the greatest potential to the world of ‘U.K’ cycling are the infrastructure/culture in which cycling sits &  electrically assisted bikes. Get those ‘fixed’ to the extent where cars are seen as massively overbuilt invalid carriages they are and you’ll be on to a good thing.

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davel replied to HowardR | 8 years ago
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HowardR wrote:

I’d be tempted to suggest that the areas that present the greatest potential to the world of ‘U.K’ cycling are the infrastructure/culture in which cycling sits &  electrically assisted bikes. Get those ‘fixed’ to the extent where cars are seen as massively overbuilt invalid carriages they are and you’ll be on to a good thing.

Amen.

What sort of engineering are you doing, wellsprop?

Design an app to relentlessly spam all MPs with stats and footage of cyclists dying on UK roads juxtaposed with the relative harmony in our near neighbours and I'll dedicate a statue* to you.

*or at least a drawing.

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Canyon48 replied to davel | 8 years ago
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davel wrote:
HowardR wrote:

I’d be tempted to suggest that the areas that present the greatest potential to the world of ‘U.K’ cycling are the infrastructure/culture in which cycling sits &  electrically assisted bikes. Get those ‘fixed’ to the extent where cars are seen as massively overbuilt invalid carriages they are and you’ll be on to a good thing.

Amen. What sort of engineering are you doing, wellsprop? Design an app to relentlessly spam all MPs with stats and footage of cyclists dying on UK roads juxtaposed with the relative harmony in our near neighbours and I'll dedicate a statue* to you. *or at least a drawing.

Haha, that sounds like a fantastic app to me  3

I'm doing Aerospace Engineering, design CAD and CAM pathway. Designing is my interest!

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Mungecrundle | 8 years ago
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A quote attributed to Henry Ford that I quite like.

"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said 'faster horses'"

Good market research is a useful though limited tool, and you will soon find that a group, 'cyclists' for example, that on the surface might seem to be fairly homogoneous in fact have very different views on what they would like. We are also somewhat notorious for our conservatism, just look at how long and how much gnashing of teeth has been caused by the introduction of new ideas from clip in shoes, brifters, carbon frames to disc brakes and electronic shifting.

I suspect that the most successful recent products for cyclists are those created by cycling enthusiasts who identified a product that they couldn't find. New technologies such as rapid prototyping with 3d printing enabled them to visualise and develop a product to the point where they could approach a manufacturer or crowd source to set up their own manufacture which is no trivial task. My advice to you is to become knowledgeable about manufacturing processes and modern materials technology, especially transferable technologies from outside your primary field that may be appropriate. Multidisciplinary teams can be very powerful generators of ideas, so make friends with your Chemist, Biologist and Electronics contemporaries.

Some probably nonsense examples;

How about 'growing' forks, frames or other components from organic sources. Some high end packaging is actually grown from fungal hyphea. Or how about the manufacture of jet turbine blades from a single crystal? Hugely expensive but who knows if that could be transferable to other high end bicycle applications? What about smart materials? wind cheating, dirt resistant nano structured paint finishes or self healing composites for example.

My personal favourite similar to ideas already mentioned are; smaller, lighter, cheaper, high def, vibration cancalling, auto recording, long battery life cameras.

Good luck with your studies, the world is a better place thanks to engineers and scientists. Just don't expect the recognition or reward you deserve.

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Canyon48 replied to Mungecrundle | 8 years ago
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Mungecrundle wrote:

A quote attributed to Henry Ford that I quite like.

"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said 'faster horses'"

Good market research is a useful though limited tool, and you will soon find that a group, 'cyclists' for example, that on the surface might seem to be fairly homogoneous in fact have very different views on what they would like. We are also somewhat notorious for our conservatism, just look at how long and how much gnashing of teeth has been caused by the introduction of new ideas from clip in shoes, brifters, carbon frames to disc brakes and electronic shifting.

I suspect that the most successful recent products for cyclists are those created by cycling enthusiasts who identified a product that they couldn't find. New technologies such as rapid prototyping with 3d printing enabled them to visualise and develop a product to the point where they could approach a manufacturer or crowd source to set up their own manufacture which is no trivial task. My advice to you is to become knowledgeable about manufacturing processes and modern materials technology, especially transferable technologies from outside your primary field that may be appropriate. Multidisciplinary teams can be very powerful generators of ideas, so make friends with your Chemist, Biologist and Electronics contemporaries.

Some probably nonsense examples;

How about 'growing' forks, frames or other components from organic sources. Some high end packaging is actually grown from fungal hyphea. Or how about the manufacture of jet turbine blades from a single crystal? Hugely expensive but who knows if that could be transferable to other high end bicycle applications? What about smart materials? wind cheating, dirt resistant nano structured paint finishes or self healing composites for example.

My personal favourite similar to ideas already mentioned are; smaller, lighter, cheaper, high def, vibration cancalling, auto recording, long battery life cameras.

Good luck with your studies, the world is a better place thanks to engineers and scientists. Just don't expect the recognition or reward you deserve.

The camera idea seems to be very popular! Hopefully Garmin and GoPro are paying attention  3

I think additive manufcaturing is going to totally revolutionise consumerism, much like industrialisation did. You'll be able to buy a product which perfroms the same as any of the same product, yet it could look totally different. I.e. cars, when additive manufacturing becomes a big big thing you could have the body work printed for your car in any shape you so wished, yet it'd drive the same as any other.

I've already dabbled with 3D printing brackets, chain catchers and clamps for my bicycle, it's so so easy once you know how to use CAD, I can knock up a design in a few hours and pick up a few fully printed the next day!

Your final comment made me chuckle I must admit as I know just how true it is! Rewards for engineers XD Engineers tend to be a funny bunch who get lots of satisfaction and reward from making stuff work - I just like it when all my equations cancel correctly, SolidWorks gives me no rebuild errors and MATLAB works  3

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tritecommentbot | 8 years ago
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Also that BRIM Brother's PM looks interesting, going to check it out later on.

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Canyon48 | 8 years ago
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A cunning ploy  [laugh]

 

Cheaper (sub £400) power meters and cheaper (eg. sub £400 50mm) carbon wheelsets and UK based. 

 

But those are true engineering challenges. Pretty much most other stuff is just tat with an app.

 

I reckon you're on to something there actually... Funnily enough, at uni, I've used strain gauges to measure force and plot it against time with a bit of code. Not a lot more needs to be done to work out power!

Wiggle has done very well with their range of Cosine wheels, 55mm carbon wheels for only £600, would love to know exactly how they've managed to reduce costs so much.

When you say 'UK based', do you mean manufactured in the UK? I think it'd be very difficult to have such cheap wheelsets and power meters yet manufacture them in the UK, taxes, wages and overheads are so much higher here than in the far east!

@Griff500 Couldn't agree more with the camera, when phone cameras can film in full HD and be absolutely minuscule, I don't know why the same can't be done with an action cam.

Cheers  4

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tritecommentbot replied to Canyon48 | 8 years ago
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wellsprop wrote:

unconstituted wrote:

A cunning ploy  [laugh]

 

Cheaper (sub £400) power meters and cheaper (eg. sub £400 50mm) carbon wheelsets and UK based. 

 

But those are true engineering challenges. Pretty much most other stuff is just tat with an app.

 

I reckon you're on to something there actually... Funnily enough, at uni, I've used strain gauges to measure force and plot it against time with a bit of code. Not a lot more needs to be done to work out power!

Wiggle has done very well with their range of Cosine wheels, 55mm carbon wheels for only £600, would love to know exactly how they've managed to reduce costs so much.

When you say 'UK based', do you mean manufactured in the UK? I think it'd be very difficult to have such cheap wheelsets and power meters yet manufacture them in the UK, taxes, wages and overheads are so much higher here than in the far east!

@Griff500 Couldn't agree more with the camera, when phone cameras can film in full HD and be absolutely minuscule, I don't know why the same can't be done with an action cam.

Cheers  4

 

Can manufacture anywhere. Lots of guys buy their carbon wheels from China, much better value than Cosine, ie. sub 400, with a lot of success. If the seller was in the UK, and offering a 2 year warranty, then the whole market is theirs. It will happen, just a matter of who gets in there first over the next few years.

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Griff500 | 8 years ago
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Smaller helmet/bike cameras with at least 10 hours record time. Some of those around seem to only record for 2 or 3 hours, and I sometimes have visions of the accident being over recorded by pictures of the inside of an ambulance! I think the time is coming when cameras will be standard, but they need to be less obtrusive than anything I've seen to date.

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tritecommentbot | 8 years ago
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A cunning ploy laugh

 

Cheaper (sub £400) power meters and cheaper (eg. sub £400 50mm) carbon wheelsets and UK based. 

 

But those are true engineering challenges. Pretty much most other stuff is just tat with an app.

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hawkinspeter replied to tritecommentbot | 8 years ago
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unconstituted wrote:

A cunning ploy laugh

 

Cheaper (sub £400) power meters and cheaper (eg. sub £400 50mm) carbon wheelsets and UK based. 

 

But those are true engineering challenges. Pretty much most other stuff is just tat with an app.

Cheaper power meters are almost here. I like the idea of power meters that fit into your shoes: http://www.brimbrothers.com/

What I want to see is a rear view camera that links up to a real-time display; either on your phone or a separate display (maybe even a HUD).

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tritecommentbot replied to hawkinspeter | 8 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

unconstituted wrote:

A cunning ploy laugh

 

Cheaper (sub £400) power meters and cheaper (eg. sub £400 50mm) carbon wheelsets and UK based. 

 

But those are true engineering challenges. Pretty much most other stuff is just tat with an app.

Cheaper power meters are almost here. I like the idea of power meters that fit into your shoes: http://www.brimbrothers.com/

What I want to see is a rear view camera that links up to a real-time display; either on your phone or a separate display (maybe even a HUD).

 

Garmin maybe the first to nail that properly. They've pushing full integration with the Varia stuff. HUD, detection sensors etc. Still pricey and in it's infancy though and not as advanced as your suggestion yet. In hardware terms.. maybe you could hack the Varia system to do what you suggested.

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