[Shortstuff84]

Hi guys

Am new to this forum and am hoping you guys can guide me in the right direction!

I’m after a set of new wheels. However, I don’t really know what I’m looking for. I currently have the Mavic Cosmic Elite’s which came with my bike when I bought it. This weekend just gone, I hired a set of Enve 6.7 clinchers and used them on the Ironman Wales bike course. I’ve only done that course once before, this time last year, but I can see from my times I was noticeably faster. That might be due to having an extra year of cycling in me though, I’m not sure. However, the wheels certainly felt faster on the flats. I’m on the small side (5 foot 1, 7 and a half stone) so hills have never been an issue for me. However, I’m generally pretty rubbish on the flats and these aero wheels seemed to make it feel a lot easier.

So, now I think I’m after some aero wheels 🙂 However I literally have no idea what I’m looking for! I didn’t intend on getting the Enve wheels – that was a mistake with the shop. I had asked for some FFWD FR6s but they gave me the Enve ones instead because someone already had the FR6s.

I don’t want to spend any more than £1k on a set but I really don’t know where to start. Is my size and weight an issue? I’ve never used aero wheels before and they definitely did feel a bit twitchy when they caught the wind.

Any help or advice would be massively appreciated. Thanks 🙂

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[Chris James]

freebsd_frank wrote:
I’m

freebsd_frank wrote:

I’m sorry my post bored you. I guess it contained a bit too much in the way
of technical information with relevant links. Stuff you as a “professional”
engineer don’t seem to find interesting. Perhaps a more suitable occupation
for you would be as a toilet attendant….your worthless opinions on wheels on this forum. ……..That’s because you’re a muppet masquerading as an engineer. …., sh*t-for-brains… You should be ashamed of yourself
as an engineer….Engineer? There are some useless ones in any profession, I guess…..Thanks for the info. That’s the last time I’m flying.

Cheers for that constructive post frank.

Given your views on technical innovation I am surprised you have got round to using anything as new fangled as aircraft anyway.

[fukawitribe]

..it’s the utterly
..it’s the utterly superfluous and irritating paragraph tags that piss me off – perhaps our protagonist would be interested in understanding Larry Walls reasoning behind the first of the three great virtues of a programmer.

[vonhelmet]

The FreeBSD thing was
The FreeBSD thing was obvious. I guess slashdot has finally given up the ghost and you’ve had to find somewhere else to come and be elitist about your choice of OS, huh? I didn’t put it together with the line breaks at the time, fair enough, but frankly it is bewildering why anyone would do what you’re doing. It really is. Your MO makes no sense. Why copy and paste things back and forth when it produces lesser quality output than just typing into the textarea? Somewhat amusingly it highlights the failure of FreeBSD to successfully copy and paste – I’m sure there aren’t line breaks in your vim text so it must be introducing them as part of the c&p process. Your arcane process is failing you.

Perhaps this marries up with your ardent insistence that 32 spoke 3 cross wheels are better than modern carbon fibre wheels. You’re wedded to 70s technology when there are better solutions out there for the purposes being discussed. Carbon fibre wheels for racing, proper GUIs for the desktop. And then you mouth off at anyone who dares question your wisdom…

But anyway, feel free to keep insulting people who disagree with you. You’ll go far.

[freebsd_frank]

vonhelmet writes:

I know

vonhelmet writes:

I know what vi, vim, latex, Unix, shell scripts, etc are and what they’re for. I also know how to use a text box on a webpage so that I don’t end up introducing a load of line breaks when I copy in from the wrong tool for the job. It’s not like I’m over here typing these posts in MS Word and then copying them in FFS.

If you knew anything about unix and it’s tools, you would have known I use
them from my handle. You also would have known that I’m using a GUI
because I’m obviously using a browser to read the webpage. You’d also
know that a standard xterm or other terminal emulator which you open vim in is 80×25 chars. Even gvim and other editors such as emacs defaults to 80×25.
You would also have noticed that my line length is less than 80 chars, and
figured out that I was using a text editor to cut and paste into the html text field in the browser. But no, because you’re a drooling moron, you decided to have a go, imply that I was some kind of idiot know-nothing (like you) and accuse me of hitting return whilst directly entering text into the field. If you knew anything about vim (like you say you do), you wouldn’t accuse me of using the wrong tool for the job. ie. You’re lying.

The short and tall of it is that you’re a muppet. Carry on digging!

[Kadinkski]

To be fair, if you’re quoting
To be fair, if you’re quoting multiple excerpts and replying to each one individually and using the permitted HTML tags etc, its significantly faster (easier) to use a text editor such as vim. Seems quite petty to insult someone for that.

If you’re just doing a straight reply or comment, obviously theres no need.

Um, in the interests of full disclosure, I don’t have a degree in engineering.

[olic]

Why would you write posts on
Why would you write posts on the internet in vim and then copy and paste? :”(

:wq!

[Iamnot Wiggins]

FRANK,
YOU’RE NOT EVEN
FRANK,
YOU’RE NOT EVEN AN
ENGINEER YOURSELF
SO PLEASE,
FUCK OFF.

[kwi]

freebsd_frank wrote:Muppets

freebsd_frank wrote:

Muppets like you for instance, will punch their text straight into the box and therefore have no editing features available to speak of.

What editing features do you need on an internet forum?

Also, are you deliberately setting out to alienate every cyclist on here, may I suggest that if you ever puncture after using your last tube you don’t mention who you are to the helpful soul that offers assistance, as you may find that offer of a tube rescinded.

You are coming across as that guy in the pub who winds everyone up and eventually gets decked, then goes off crying about being the victim.

All typed into the text box, and happily so as it uses less keystrokes.

[crikey]

Hurrah!
He’s back, he’s
Hurrah!
He’s back, he’s here,
He’s not an engineer!

Frank is either an extremely well thought out troll, or one of those wonderful crazed-as-a-loon eccentric types who make the internet fun.

He’s back, he’s real,
He knows nothing of wheels…

[vonhelmet]

*sigh*
I know what vi, vim,
*sigh*

I know what vi, vim, latex, Unix, shell scripts, etc are and what they’re for. I also know how to use a text box on a webpage so that I don’t end up introducing a load of line breaks when I copy in from the wrong tool for the job. It’s not like I’m over here typing these posts in MS Word and then copying them in FFS.

Cheers for the insult, as well. It really adds credibility to your argument that I don’t know what I’m doing just typing in a textbox like some sort of moron.

[freebsd_frank]

All this engineering genius

All this engineering genius and apparently some computing diploma and yet he can’t figure out that he doesn’t need to hit enter every time he gets close to the edge of the text box. It’s not a typewriter, Frank, you don’t need to tell it when you want to start a new line.

FYI, I use a text editor, Vim, to mark-up and write my posts which are then
cut and pasted into the text field. Also most unix/linux shells have a vi
(which Vim is based on) editing mode.

I also use the text editor to code, mark-up html and LaTeX, edit config files
etc. This means I have to only learn one tool to do all jobs that require text
entry.

Muppets like you for instance, will punch their text straight into the box and
therefore have no editing features available to speak of. You will also use
crappy application software like MS Word to produce printed output.

As for coding, you wouldn’t know what a simple shell script was (let alone
does) if it hit you on the head.

[vonhelmet]

All this engineering genius
All this engineering genius and apparently some computing diploma and yet he can’t figure out that he doesn’t need to hit enter every time he gets close to the edge of the text box. It’s not a typewriter, Frank, you don’t need to tell it when you want to start a new line.

[crikey]

Frank has gone.
I am
Frank has gone.
I am disappoint.

[fukawitribe]

freebsd_frank

freebsd_frank wrote:

Fukawitribe writes:

Carbon fibre composite structures can support relatively high degrees of
deflection without failing or inducing permanent deformation.

What structures though? I used the example of a simple tube, assuming the lay
up of the fibres would be in-line with maximal stress.

How about a link to the description of such a structure and it’s mechanical
properties? I know it’s such a hassle to back up baldly stated facts, I seem
to be the only one on here who does.

For tubes try here

and other fun from Fabio Gigli or Google Santa Cruz carbon crush test or similar. Or perhaps, as mentioned by others, look at running prosthetics – hey, look in the sky at planes, at old carbon frame soft tails, at aero blades, carbon spokes, boats, leaf springs, at all sorts of shit.

freebsd_frank wrote:

From what I read on that site, carbon fibre’s mechanical properties are
directional. Whilst you could in theory make a bendy carbon fibre composite by
not using the directional properties of the fibre and instead rely on the
properties of the matrix instead, to quote from the article I gave you a
link to, that wouldn’t make sense (why use a strong material and then not make
use of that property?) and in practice:

Because of the way the crystals of carbon fibre orient in long flat ribbon or narrow sheets of honeycomb crystals, the strength is higher running lengthwise than across the fibre. That is why designers of carbon fibre objects specify the direction the fibre should be laid to maximize strength and rigidity in a specific direction. The fibre being aligned with the direction of greatest stress.

And later under the heading: Carbon Fibers are brittle:

When the fibers bend they fails at very low strain. In other words carbon
fibre does not bend much before failing.

You suspect wrongly.

This is getting tiresome: to the next muppet who doesn’t supply any links,
from now on I wont bother replying.

You know one thing, amongst many, I can’t recall you mention this whole time is resin… you might want to consider that next time you’re educating the world with your knowledge of composite materials.

No more on this thread now Frank, you want to have more discussion -we’ll take it to another. Create it and publish the link – let the OP get on with what they want to talk about.

[Leeroy_Silk]

freebsd_frank wrote:

This is

freebsd_frank wrote:

This is getting tiresome: to the next muppet who doesn’t supply any links,
from now on I wont bother replying.

I think this maybe what most dear readers are secretly hoping for… <:P

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