Nowadays, it's said that an endurance road bike is what most amateur cyclists will be happiest riding on tarmac. They're typically more comfortable, have more relaxed geometry and have space for wider tyres than a road race bike. The only real downside is that they're supposedly slower than racier road bikes, or fully-fledged aero bikes... or are they?
Despite what the press releases for just about every road race bike this century might tell you, we theorise that most amateur cyclists will be hard-pressed to find any real-world speed differences on an endurance bike. Other publications have suggested similar things, so we decided to conduct a test in an attempt to find out...
The endurance bike
You might think that to try and prove my point I’m going to be using some really fancy endurance road bike like the Pinarello Dogma X that appeared in another recent video of ours; but instead, the powers that be told me that in the name of fairness, I have to use a "more sensible" endurance bike.
How about the new Van Rysel NCR CF, a bike that currently has a price tag of £2,000 on the Decathlon website? The full review will be live on road.cc in a few weeks time, but for now, with its wide tyre clearances and "do it all" geometry it'll do as our endurance bike for this mini-experiment.
Van Rysel says that the NCR is its "most all-round bike", and though it still has a "strong focus on performance", we're told "it'll take you anywhere".
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This particular model has a very blue carbon fibre frame and fork, an electronic 1x groupset (SRAM Apex to be precise), and a Mavic Aksium wheelset. It comes specced with 28mm Hutchinson Fusion 5 Performance tyres, but will fit up to 35mm rubber.
The race bike
To prove my point that endurance bikes aren’t any slower, I planned on racing this NCR against a more specialist race-orientated bike that also costs about £2000. However, my shadowy superiors said that if I really believed that it wasn’t any slower than a race bike, then I should put it up against my very own Specialized Allez Sprint.
My Allez is a bike designed for speed. To be honest, I selected both the frame and components purely for performance rather than comfort.
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As we've discovered in previous road.cc features, deep wheels can make a significant difference, so to alleviate any advantage I'll be using the same set of wheels on both bikes. After all, you can fit all the same wheels to both a race or endurance bike.
What's the difference?
So, what actually is the difference between the two bikes? Why is one of them called a race bike and the other an endurance bike? This might be obvious to some of you, but for those newer to road cycling it's worth a brief explainer of what an endurance bike is:
An endurance bike sits in the road bike category. It is generally considered to be something that is designed for comfort and efficiency over longer rides. For this reason, these bikes are very popular with recreational and club road riders.
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Compared to race bikes, endurance bikes typically have a higher front end, including a longer headtube, shorter reach (which means a shorter top tube), a longer wheelbase, and a front wheel that is further out in front of you. This makes it less agile but also less twitchy. If you’d like the full rundown of the differences between the two then click on the link above.
The NCR has a shallower seat tube angle, shorter head tube and longer chain stays than the Allez Sprint in a compatible size. Even so, it's still a machine with at least one eye on speed, which we guess you're interested in if you're reading this!
The test
The course of our test is 10 kilometres long and includes some hills, some lanes, some descents and some open flat sections. It's been selected as it replicates what most riders are likely to encounter on an average weekend ride here in the UK.
The test will be performed twice on each bike, while I try to keep my heart rate the same on each effort, so we should be able to see which one’s fastest, and by how much. Why not use a power meter? Well, I think that there's a chance I'll have to work harder to put out the same power output in the more aggressive position.
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Before you tell us so in the comments section, we're well aware that this isn’t the most scientific test that’s ever been done. This is mostly for fun, so feel free to take the results with a pinch of salt.
Endurance bike ride impressions
My first effort was on the endurance bike, and despite it being the first time I'd ever ridden this particular bike and the fact that I was on unfamiliar roads to boot, it was easy to feel at home on. Some bikes take a bit of getting used to, but an endurance bike is usually easier to get to grips with (especially for less experienced riders) thanks to the slower handling and more controlled position.
This isn't to say that endurance bikes are just for people out of practice. Israel Premier Tech pro riders used gravel bikes at this year's Paris-Roubaix, demonstrating that more relaxed geometry can still be fast, especially when the conditions are less than ideal.
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This confidence was particularly useful on the lane sections and twisty descents on the course, which often had a sprinkling of gravel and potholes.
I did feel more upright on the endurance bike compared to my race bike, which was particularly noticeable on the open flat section along an A-road. Would this result in me losing a significant amount of time?
Race bike ride impressions
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A quick wheel change and a gulp of energy drink and it was time for the race bike. Setting off, it certainly felt faster. The steering is more direct and everything just felt a bit more lively, even with the 1,900g wheelset fitted.
The handlebar was certainly much lower and farther away from the saddle, which resulted in me being much more stretched out. It is worth keeping in mind that dropping your bars won't immediately make your body lower... if your back doesn't want to arch more then it won't! Could I simply be reaching for the bars more resulting in a higher frontal area and more drag?
Results
After switching back over and completing the test once more on each bike, it was time to review the results.
Unsurprisingly the race bike was indeed faster, by around 8 seconds on average over our 10km course.
This might seem less than you were expecting. When we talked to Ribble on this subject, they told us that an "out-and-out aero race bike could save you up to around 4.5 seconds per mile", with Trek and Specialized providing similar figures to us in the past. On our course then, you would expect the endurance bike to be more like 27 seconds slower rather than 8.
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Personally, I think the discrepancy lies in the fact that our course, designed to simulate real-life riding, contains plenty of sections like gravelly descents where there was no real advantage to being on a race bike. In fact, the endurance bike was likely faster in these areas.
Conclusions
So, is the endurance bike slower? Well, on a 10km route it was fractionally slower, but perhaps by less than you might think. It’s worth remembering that over a longer distance when comfort and fatigue start to play a part, the endurance bike is probably the quicker option for the vast majority of riders.
This is particularly true if you’re not super flexible. It’s very easy to want to copy the pros who ride super aggressive race bikes, but most of them probably spend more hours in a week stretching than a lot of us do riding.
Of course, you could try to get a more relaxed position on a race bike. You could fit a short stem and leave a load of spacers under it, but really the more sensible option would be to buy a bike that’s designed for the position you should be in.
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Luckily endurance bikes are no longer the ugly ducklings of the bike industry. There are now plenty of choices of cracking-looking machines, all available with the same spec as you would get on a race bike. They’re not usually any heavier either.
It’s also worth pointing out that I was solo on all my timed runs, so I was facing the full force of the wind. If you ride in a group then the difference between a race bike and an endurance bike is probably even less.
Some of us may have been suckered into thinking that race bikes are loads quicker, possibly because the press releases for the latest and greatest speed machines always say "20 seconds faster at 40kph", and then another "1 minute faster at 40kph" for the next generation. While that might be true in a wind tunnel, in the real world, where gravel, corners, back pain and confidence exist, I don’t think so. For the vast majority of riders, the endurance bike is the way to go whether you’re interested in speed or not.
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Oh, and the other thing I like about endurance bikes... they’re much easier to trackstand on, because your toes are less likely to get caught on the tyre!
Let us know your thoughts on endurance road bikes down below as well as whether the results of our test surprised you.
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Which bike is faster ....
Depends on which one has a professional rider on it ..or me .... your can compare motorbikes ... let's see ... my Honda CBR 600F ... 160mph missile ... my Suzuki V-Strom 650 ... 140mph HGV ....
There is no such thing as a faster bicycle .... just faster riders .... I'm sure Robert Millar ( hi there Pippa ) could beat my best under the hour TT time on a Raleigh Twenty ...
Different factors at play:
- comfort = speed i.e. which bike lets you go fastest with the least fatigue or other physical discomforts for your kind of riding (commuting, sport, traveling...)
- effective speed (Ivan Illich) i.e. how long do you have to work to afford such and such a means of transport/bike to travel at such and such a speed afterwards
- all other sorts of other costs and externalities factored, or not, into the equation...
Personally I find that a randonneur bike answers most of these questions for me. On mine I commute every day, I travel, I do shopping or trips to the recycling centre, I go passhunting in the mountains and I can if the occasion arises (or at least did arise a few years back) ride at 40km/h to match a friend on his race bike...
So really nothing in it for anyone not racing professionally, and barely even then.
I've fixed the bar chart for you.
In my limited experience endurance bikes (ok bike, a decent specced, expensive Trek Domane from a few years back) was slow / dull as hell compared to a cheaper race bike which was FUNFUNFUN!!!
You ride what's fun if we're talking about leisure cycling, and for many people that will be endurance bikes with fat tyres at a slower speed. Absolutely fine. But not for me at the moment.
The speed difference btw will probably be more apparent when you're properly pushing it rather than cruising about I would've thought
Arguably, the Trek Domane with Isospeed decoupling at both ends, and the Specialized Roubaix, with various iterations of Zertz, doglegged blades and stays, and Futureshock, are the plushest endurance rides currently available. Demo'ing an early Domane, I was underwhelmed by the sluggishness of the Domane's handling, and I was workingfor Trek dealers. We also had a customer who chose a Domane because he felt the Roubaix was even worse. I believe Trek and Specialized missed the mark when they tried to soften the ride up front---too much flexibility where the handlebar meets the fork, and too little head angle coupled with too much trail. In my opinion, more conservative approaches such as Giant's Defy, BMC's Roadmachine, and Scott's Addict, and this Van Rysel hit the mark better and with less over-thinking.
So Road CC has done a test over 10km that completely ignores the main beneift of endurance bikes for many (the clue's in the name) and uses a 1X and presumably a 2X for comparison. I know the writer said take this with a pinch of salt but it's more like a bucket full.
Both bikes are both 1x
I have several bikes, I ride them.
I know not whether they are road bikes, endurance bikes or any other name provided by marketing teams.
At the end of a 4 hour ride, I don't really care.
Did you pay through the nose for a "professional bike fit"? Apparently that's very important these days too.
I did, back in the day, buy a custom frame, as they were advertised in the magazines of the time. Then I worked out the "con".
But surely you care a bit, otherwise why have four different bikes?
A knackered old steel one with seven gears and tubs, a slightly less knackered less old one with early Ergopower and wired-on tyres, and decent aluminium one, and a super duper modern carbon one?
Definitely better marketing names.
My point was simply you must have a reason for which one you choose for any ride, or else you'd just manage with one bike.
Having an old one you're not too bothered about for foul weather seems a good reason, as does having a decent spare bike so that if your good bike breaks you don't end up having to ride the filthy, knackered winter bike when you don't want to.
I suspect that the road bike is going to be less than capable off road.
Which is kind of my point - some bikes are more suitable for some types of riding than others.
But endurance vs race? That's fag paper thin differentiating marketing spiel.
Yeah, I'll give you that
I suspect in many case there's as much difference between individual "race" or "endurance" bikes as there is been some individual race and endurance bikes.
Now, if we're talking gravel bikes, that's a whole different story. Gimme, gimme, gimme! Apologies for the Facebook link.
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Given the article quotes Ribble, I am (entirely selfishly - as I own one) disappointed you didn't use a Ribble Endurance bike for the test. Though the road.cc review did describe its geometry as more aggressive than a typical endurance bike.
If you need the endurance geometry, but like fiddle with speed,you can go up the range, have better wheels, that would make a difference. Also these Ribble quoted difference are for smooth roads, fast speed above 20mph,that way above the average speed of the average club rider
I ride a race bike not because I think it will be faster, but because it feels faster. The handling is sharper and I like that feeling . I'm also lucky to be able to hold a fairly low position so that isn't an issue. I chose my bike on that basis, it isn't an aero bike for the same reason, to me an aero bike just doesn't feel nice to ride.
Is it really about "flexibility" and "stretching"? I think endurance, and now gravel bikes, with thick tyres and tall head tubes, are popular these days because there has been an obesity explosion, and our gut gets in the way. Trouble is endurance bikes are sold to thin young cyclists too. The other problem is that race geometry bikes tend to be more expensive. I recommend second hand race bikes from about 20 years ago if you don't have a gut, otherwise if you buy an endurance bike, like a baggy shirt, you may fill it out.
Furthermore most people ride forward with a wide hip angle on race bikes too, but if you want to ride a old school glute-using, narrow hip angle style (like Eddy Merx and Jacques Anquetil) you need the race bike geometry to get behind the BB. Using your glutes is not quite as fast as sprinting all the time in a time trial like "modern" position, but if you don't use your glutes lots you can become lame by 50. Race bikes and the narrow hip angle style, pedalling from the back, help promote longevity. Race bikes for the long-term win.
So the fat MAMIL is to blame?
I don't think so. Endurance bike geometry is not that different from race bikes that are designed for 25-year-old athletes in their prime to ride as fast as possible. Most of us don't race (or if we do the difference between them isn't really significant and the difference in stiffness etc is small) and don't really benefit from the bar drop, short wheelbase and twitchy front end.
The endurance bike, which perhaps should be called 'a normal drop-bar road bike', can usually accommodate wider tyres. It wasn't long ago that wider tyres were considered slower; thankfully that has been disproved and 28 and 32mm tyres are great with the wider rims that are now available. Also our roads are in a worse state than ever so those bigger tyres are a boon and if someone fancies a bit of doubletrack or light gravel then it is likely to be more enjoyable, so it may be more versatile than the 'pure' race bike.
That erroneous belief that narrow tyres were fastest is reminiscent of when some gullible fools thought compact chainsets were for weak people while real cyclists rode 52/39 with nothing bigger than 28T on the back. Thankfully that blinkered mindset has more or less disappeared.
If you prefer a race bike then you're spoilt for choice. Nobody is making you buy anything you don't want. But it's disingenuous to suggest that 'endurance' bikes, which are a bit more sensible yet still fast and very capable, are somehow inferior.
Yup. If you live somewhere flat and all you ride is criteriums, then thinking you can manage without a 34x32 is utter madness.
Not sure how that's relevant, or perhaps simply a snark fail. I didn't say nobody should ever ride 52/39 and a straight block, just choose whatever is appropriate to the rider, terrain etc. It's that the condescending comments I used to see about "you don't need smaller gears, just get stronger" were really unhelpful.
It's like telling people that they don't need lights on pedestrian crossings on busy roads, just use their nouse and judgement and run in between the vehicles. I can do it so why can't your granny or that parent with a 5 year-old and a pram?
Thats the whole point hop opening is benificial to allow proper power transfer. TT posistions are hard to keep unless you train a lot. Also you loose power and gain aeroness. A fine thin line.
But telling that the old style positions are good is ignoranace. Many fitters (alos pro riders) tell the superman position is very inefficient. I ride pretty forward not because I want to close down the reach. But simply because in the backward position I get serious knee issues. Got fitted twice by such old school fitters thinking as a starting cyclist that that was ok. Never ever go back to such a BS fitter Caused me several years of knee issues.
Now sitting forward ALL my knee problems are gone. My drop increased by 5cm and ride faster then ever ...
Drivel. A Canyon Aeroroad CFR size M has a top tube length of 555mm with a head tube of 144mm whilst the Endurace CFR has a top tube of 561mm and a 165mm head tube. If your gut is so large that it gets in the way on a race bike it will get in the way on an endurance bike, adding a centimetre or so either way is not going to change that. The reason gravel bikes and endurance bikes are now so popular is because people have realised that if you ride for pleasure and fitness, rather than racing, you will get fitter (because you will be able to ride for longer) and get more pleasure from a slightly more relaxed position than from choosing the most aggressive and uncomfortable bike available just to get an extra 1.5 km/h.
...clearly anything that better allows you to demonstrate your track stand prowess is to be appluaded.
". . . that allows you to demonstrate . . . better . . .", please 😉