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Everything you need to know to decide on the best Giant or Liv for you

Giant has a huge lineup of bikes and components covering all areas of cycling, and its road bikes range from £579 to £8,999 so there's something for pretty much every budget.

The vast number of models might seem daunting at first but the range is structured logically so it’s easy to work out the best choice for you.

One quick tip before we start is that the word 'Advanced' in a model name means that the frame is carbon-fibre.

All of Giant's road bikes feature groupsets from Shimano. The lower the number included in a bike name the higher the quality of the components. The TCR Advanced Pro 1 has a higher spec than the TCR Advanced Pro 2, for example, and the TCR Advanced Pro 0 has a higher level again.

Giant also has a women’s specific brand called Liv that offers an impressively large range.

TCR Advanced range

The TCR Advanced models are performance road bikes that are designed to be lightweight, stiff and agile, roughly the equivalent of a Trek Emonda or Specialized Tarmac.

All the TCR models are made from carbon-fibre of various grades, and they come in race geometries: low and stretched.

Giant updated the frames of all of the TCR models for the 2016 model year, the idea being to offer the best stiffness-to-weight possible, and added disc-braked models to the range. We wouldn't be surprised to see Giant reveal a revamped TCR some time in 2019.

TCR Advanced SL

Whereas brands like Trek, Merida and Bianchi have all introduced superlight race bikes to the market recently and other brands have concentrated on improving aerodynamic efficiency, Giant has gone after stiffness-to-weight as a means of offering efficiency.

The TCR Advanced SL is the flagship frameset in the range with a claimed frame weight of 856g and a claimed fork weight of 302g. It’s the brand’s lightest road frameset ever.

Giant says that the TCR Advanced SL comes out higher than any of its competitors in both a frameset pedalling stiffness-to-weight test and a frameset and wheelset pedalling stiffness-to-weight test, although other brands would doubtless dispute this.

When we got the chance to ride the TCR Advanced SL we described it as “an amazingly stiff race bike that’ll suit aggressive riders who prioritise all-out efficiency and super-sharp cornering in their efforts to get to the finish line first”.

Mixing seated riding with out of the saddle stuff for the steeper bits of our test rides, the bottom bracket was locked in place. It was the same deal in sprints: solid. If you’re a powerful rider who finds some bikes just a bit flexy when you get serious, give the TCR Advanced SL a go.

Read our First Ride report on the Giant TCR Advanced SL here.

It’s available as a rim brake frameset (£1,999), or in four complete bike builds: two with rim brakes and two with disc brakes. The disc brake frames use 12mm thru-axles front and rear.

2019 Giant TCR Advanced SL 2

The Giant TCR Advanced SL 2 (above, £3,499) is built up with a Shimano Ultegra mechanical groupset and Giant’s own SLR 1 wheels, while the Advanced SL 1 (£4,999) has the Di2 (electronic) version of Ultegra and SLR 1 wheels.

2019 Giant TCR Advanced SL 0

The Advanced SL1 Disc (£5,499) is the same but with the addition of Shimano Ultegra hydraulic disc brakes while the TCR Advanced SL 0 Dura-Ace (above, £7,999) comes with the Di2 (electronic) version of Shimano's top-level road groupset.

Buy if: You’re after a lightweight and stiff race bike and you’re willing to pay a significant amount of money.

TCR Advanced Pro

Although it’s made from a different grade of composite, many of the TCR Advanced SL’s features are carried over to the TCR Advanced Pro. Giant says that it trimmed weight from this bike in 2016 without sacrificing stiffness.

A wholesale slimming down took place. Giant reduced the profile size of the top tube, seatstays, chainstays, seatpost and fork legs, and made the walls a more consistent thickness than before to minimise excess weight. The lower headset bearing was shifted up slightly so that it’s more in line with the down tube.

The TCR Advanced Pro is available as a frameset (both rim brake and disc brake versions) and in seven different builds. The most accessible of these is the TCR Advanced Pro 2 (£2,399) that’s built up with a mid-level Shimano 105 groupset and Giant’s SLR 1 wheels. The TCR Advanced Pro 2 is available with disc brakes for £200 extra.

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The TCR Advanced Pro 1 (above, £2,799) is next up with a Shimano Ultegra group and SLR 1 wheels. This is available in a Team Sunweb finish as well as a standard paintjob, and with disc brakes — again for an additional £200.

At the top of the range you'll find the TCR Advanced Pro 0 with Shimano Ultegra Di2 components and SLR 1 wheels. The rim brake model is £4,299 while the disc brake version is £4,499.

Read more: Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 review

Buy if: You’re performance minded and prioritise frame stiffness.

TCR Advanced

The TCR Advanced (without an SL or Pro suffix) also got a lightened frameset for 2016 as well as a new Variant seatpost that’s designed to improve the ride quality and keep you feeling comfortable.

Like the other TCRs, the Advanced is built to Giant’s Compact Road Design. Essentially, this means that the top tube slopes downwards along its length and the frame triangles are smaller than usual. Giant says that this makes for a lighter, stiffer and smoother ride.

We wouldn’t say the Compact Road Design is inherently better than a traditional configuration, but some people do prefer it, especially because it gives you a lower standover height and a lot of exposed seatpost to soak up vibrations from the road.

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The cheapest TCR Advanced is the Shimano Tiagra-equipped TCR Advanced 3 (above) which is available only with rim brakes (£1,299). The TCR Advanced 2, with Shimano 105 components, comes in rim brake (£1,499) and disc brake (£1,749) options, as does the TCR Advanced 1 (below, £1,799 and £1,999), with parts from Shimano's Ultegra range.

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The disc brakes in question are Giant's Conduct hydraulic design. They're actually cable operated with a mechanical-to-hydraulic converter.

Find out more about the entire TCR Advanced range here.

Buy if: You’re looking for a high performance bike with reasonably accessible pricing.

Propel range

Whereas the TCR bikes are designed for stiffness-to-weight, the Propels are all about aerodynamics. In that sense, they’re competitors to the Trek Madone, for instance, the Merida Reacto and the Canyon Aeroad.

All Propels are built around carbon-fibre frames, although the grade of carbon varies across the range.

You'll notice that there's a large difference in price between a Propel with rim brakes and one with disc brakes and an otherwise similar spec. This is because Giant introduced a brand new disc brake Propel for model year 2018 whereas the rim brake Propels are built to an older design. It's not just the brakes that are different, it's the frameset technology. For that reason we'll divide them up here into rim brake and disc brake models.

Propel Advanced Pro

The Propel Advanced Pro's frame tubes have been designed with aerodynamics in mind, so you get a very deep down tube and a seat tube that’s cut away around the leading edge of the rear wheel – both features common to many other aero road bikes.

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The Propel Advanced Pro is available in three different builds, The Shimano Ultegra Di2-equipped Propel Advanced Pro 0 (£4,499) is the top of the line, but the Propel Advanced Pro 1 (above, £2,999) looks the pick of the bunch in terms of value. It comes with a Shimano Ultegra groupset and Giant’s own 55mm deep SLR 1 Aero wheels. The range is completed by the Propel Advanced Pro 2 (£2,799) with Shimano 105 components.

Buy if: You're looking for an aero road bike with a proven frame and rim brakes.

Propel Advanced

The Propel Advanced is made from same grade of carbon-fibre as the Propel Advanced Pro but the fork comes with an alloy steerer rather than being a full-carbon design. That really doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

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The Propel Advanced 2 (above) is good value. This bike comes with Shimano’s mid-level 105 groupset and the price is the same as it was last year: £1,599.

If you want deep section wheels, though, you need to go up to the Propel Advanced 0 (£2,999). This comes with Giant’s SL 1 Aero wheels and a Shimano Ultegra Di2 groupset.

Buy if: You're after aerodynamic efficiency and want to stick with rim brakes.

Propel Advanced Disc

Giant added disc brakes to the Propel Advanced lineup in 2018, claiming that the flagship model, the Propel Advanced SL Disc, has the highest stiffness-to-weight ratio of any bike in its class and a lower drag coefficient at a wider range of yaw angles than the rim brake Propel.

“One of the key breakthroughs is a new truncated ellipse airfoil shape – a design that lowers drag at a wider range of wind angles than traditional teardrop frame tubing,” says Giant. “Engineers also found that, with proper integration, a disc-brake design can actually improve aero performance compared to rim-brake configurations.”

You also get a combined aero handlebar and stem with internal cable routing, and aero wheelsets with different rim depths front and rear, the idea being to reduce drag without compromising control or power transmission.

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Two models are built around the top level Propel Advanced SL Disc frame, the less expensive of them (above), at £5,899, being equipped with Shimano Ultegra Di2 components.

The Propel Advanced Pro Disc frame is made with a slightly lower grade of carbon and it has a seatpost that's separate to the frame as opposed to the Propel Advanced SL Disc's integrated seatpost design. It has the same Shimano Ultegra Di2 groupset, though, and is £1,000 cheaper at £4,899.

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The Propel Advanced Disc uses the same grade of carbon as the Pro Disc but with an alloy steerer rather than a full carbon fork. Built up with a Shimano 105 groupset, the Propel Advanced 2 Disc (above) is priced £2,299 while £2,999 gets you the Propel Advanced 1 Disc with a Shimano Ultegra mechanical groupset.

Read our review of the Giant Propel Advanced Disc.

Buy if: You want an aero road bike with even lower drag than its rim brake equivalent.

Defy range

The Defy is Giant’s carbon-fibre endurance/sportive road bike lineup, designed to be comfortable over long distances while still providing plenty of speed.

A Defy has a shorter top tube than an equivalent TCR, for example, and a taller head tube to put you into a ride position that’s a bit more relaxed and back-friendly. Specialized takes a similar approach with its Roubaix bikes, Cannondale offers its Synapse range, and many other brands have their equivalents. All Defy bikes have disc brakes.

D-Fuse TechnologyGiant has redesigned its Defy bikes for 2019, the latest models coming with clearance for 32mm tyres, and tubeless tyres fitted as standard. The bikes also get D-Fuse handlebars that, like the existing D-Fuse seatposts, are designed to allow a small amount of movement to absorb shock and vibrations.

Find out more about the new Giant Defy design here.

Defy Advanced Pro

The Defy Advanced Pro bikes are built around frames and forks made of Giant's Advanced Grade carbon composite. The most affordable model is the Defy Advanced Pro 2 (£2,799). This one has Shimano’s highly rated 105 groupset and an aluminium Contact SL D-Fuse handlebar.

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Pay £3,199 for the Defy Advanced Pro 1 (above) and you'll get an upgrade to Shimano Ultegra and a carbon Contact SLR D-Fuse handlebar, while the Defy Advanced Pro 0 (£4,499) jumps up to Shimano Ultegra Di2. The big news, though, is that this top-of-the-range model is fitted with a Giant Power Pro double sided power meter.

Read our first ride report on the Giant Defy Advanced Pro 0.

Buy if: You prioritise comfort and want the assurance of hydraulic disc brakes.

Defy Advanced

The three Defy Advanced models are equipped with Giant's Conduct hydraulic disc brakes, cable operated with a converter attached to the stem.

The Defy Advanced 3 (£1,499) has Shimano’s fourth tier Tiagra components – great stuff that benefits from technology that has trickled down from higher level groupsets.

Check out our review of the 2017 Giant Defy Advanced 3.

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We’d still be tempted to pay £200 extra and get the Defy Advanced 2 (above, £1,699) with Shimano 105, though.

The Defy Advanced 1 (£1,999) is equipped with a Shimano Ultegra groupset.

Read our Shimano Tiagra 4700 First Ride review here.

Buy if: You want a bike for comfortably racking up the miles.

Contend

The aluminium-framed Contend models are built to geometries that are similar to those of the carbon fibre Defy bikes (above) and they also come with tapered head tubes and steerers for accurate steering, and slim seatposts that are designed to damp vibration.

There are three flavours of Contend: Contend, Contend SL and Contend SL Disc.

If you're in the market for a bike at the typical Cycle To Work Scheme threshold of £1,000, the Contend SL 2 Disc (£999, above) is good value with Shimano Tiagra components and Giant's own Conduct disc brakes.

If you're a fan of lightweight aluminium-framed bikes, then the Contend SL models are well worth a look. When we reviewed the Contend SL1 (£999) we called it a "balanced and assured aluminium endurance bike equally suited to long rides at pace and commuter pothole-bashing".

"The Giant Contend SL 1 is an absolutely spot-on all-day ride," we said. "It's a comfortable and versatile sportive/endurance bike with a dependable feel that encourages you to keep going and just do those extra few miles."

2019 Giant Contend 2

The entry-level model in the range is the Contend 2 (£579, above) with components drawn largely from Shimano’s 8-speed Claris groupset.

Check out our guide to Shimano’s road bike groupsets here.

Read our review of the Giant Contend SL 1.

Buy if: You want the comfort of an endurance road bike and you don’t necessarily feel the need for discs.

Enviliv

The designed-for-women Enviliv (formerly called Envie) bikes are branded Liv rather than Giant, and they’re essentially women’s versions of Propels. Like the Propels, they’re divided up into different categories. There’s no SL version but there are Enviliv Advanced and Advanced Pro models.

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The cheapest model is the £1,599 Enviliv Advanced 2 (above) with a Shimano 105 groupset, while the top-level rim brake model is the Enviliv Advanced Pro (£3,149) with Shimano Ultegra components.

The most affordable of the three disc brake models is the £3,499 Enviliv Advanced Pro 2 Disc with dependable Shimano 105 parts and Giant's SLR-1 Aero wheels.

Buy if: You want an aero road bike in a women’s-specific geometry.

Liv Langma

Langma is a range of women’s-specific carbon-framed road race bikes, designed to be lightweight and efficient.

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The Shimano Tiagra-equipped Langma Advanced 3 (above) is available in a rim brake version only (£1,299) while the Langma Advanced 2, which steps up to Shimano 105 components, comes in both rim brake (£1,499) and disc brake (£1,749) models. The same is true of the Advanced 1 which is kitted out in Shimano Ultegra (£1,799 and £1,999).

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The Langma Advanced Pro bikes use the same Advanced Grade composite but get a slightly different headset system and a full-carbon fork rather than a fork with an aluminium steerer. The more affordable of the rim brake models is Langma Advanced Pro 1 (above, £2,799) with a Shimano Ultegra groupset.

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There are three Langma Advanced Pro Disc bikes this year, with thru axles and hydraulic disc brakes. The cheapest of these is the Liv Langma Advanced Pro 2 Disc (above, £2,599) which has Shimano 105 components. This bike isn't available in a rim brake format.

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The top level Langma platform is the Advanced SL, made from a higher grade of carbon and available only with rim brakes. The Langma Advanced SL 1 (£4,999) has a Shimano Ultegra Di2 groupset while the £7,999 Langma Advanced SL 0 (above) is equipped with super-slick Shimano Dura-Ace Di2.

Buy if: You want a women’s-specific carbon-framed road race bike that's designed to be lightweight and efficient.

Liv Avail

The Liv Avail bikes are pretty much women’s versions of the Giant Defys and Contends. It’s a large range containing 10 different models, covering both carbon-fibre Advanced models and aluminium-framed bikes.

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There are six aluminium Avails, four of them with rim brakes and the other two with discs. Both the Avail SL 2 Disc (above, £999) and the Avail SL 1 Disc (£1,249) are fitted with Giant's own Conduct hydraulic disc brakes.

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The rim-braked aluminium Avails start with the Avail 2 (above, £599) — the women's equivalent of the Contend 2 — and go up to the Avail SL 1 (£999) with Shimano's 105 components.

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Top of the carbon fibre Avails is the Avail Advanced Pro (above, £2,999) with a Shimano Ultegra groupset, including hydraulic disc brakes. All of the other Avail Advanced bikes are equipped with hydraulic disc brakes too.

Buy if: You’re after an endurance road bike that’s made especially for women.

AnyRoad

​The AnyRoads are really interesting bikes that are designed for riding both on asphalt and on rougher roads – gravel, towpaths, forest tracks, that kind of thing. Many other manufacturers are producing bikes that are similarly versatile: GT makes the Grade, for example, and Jamis has the Renegade.

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The AnyRoad is built with a tall head tube for a fairly upright riding position, and comes with 32mm tyres for grip and comfort on less than perfect road surfaces.

There are two aluminium-framed AnyRoads, the cheapest of which is the AnyRoad 2 (above, £899) with a Shimano Sora groupset and TRP Spyre mechanical disc brakes.

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The AnyRoad Advanced (above, £1,799) has a full carbon frame. This one has a Shimano Tiagra groupset and Giant's Conduct cable operated hydraulic disc brakes (using a mechanical-to-hydraulic converter).

Buy if: You want a relaxed geometry bike that’s capable of riding on smooth and not-so-smooth roads.

The 2019 Giant and Liv range

Model Bike type Frame material Groupset Brakes Price
TCR




TCR Advanced 3 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Tiagra Rim £1,299.00
TCR Advanced 2 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Rim £1,499.00
TCR Advanced 2 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £1,749.00
TCR Advanced 1 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £1,799.00
TCR Advanced 1 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £1,999.00
TCR Advanced Pro 2 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Rim £2,399.00
TCR Advanced Pro 2 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £2,599.00
TCR Advanced Pro 1 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £2,799.00
TCR Advanced Pro Team Sunweb Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £2,799.00
TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £2,999.00
TCR Advanced Pro 0 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Rim £4,299.00
TCR Advanced Pro 0 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Disc £4,499.00
TCR Advanced Pro Frameset Road Carbon-fibre
Rim £1,299.00
TCR Advanced Pro Disc Frameset Road Carbon-fibre
Disc £1,349.00
TCR Advanced SL 2 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £3,499.00
TCR Advanced SL 1 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Rim £4,999.00
TCR Advanced SL 1 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Disc £5,499.00
TCR Advanced SL 0 Dura-Ace Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Dura-Ace Rim £7,999.00
TCR Advanced SL Frameset Road Carbon-fibre
Rim £1,999.00
Propel




Propel Advanced 2 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Rim £1,599.00
Propel Advanced 1 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £1,899.00
Propel Advanced 0 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Rim £2,999.00
Propel Advanced Pro 2 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Rim £2,799.00
Propel Advanced Pro 1 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £2,999.00
Propel Advanced Pro 0 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Rim £4,499.00
Propel Disc




Propel Advanced 2 Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £2,299.00
Propel Advanced 1 Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £2,999.00
Propel Advanced Pro Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Disc £4,899.00
Propel Advanced Pro Disc Frameset Aero Carbon-fibre
Disc £1,999.00
Propel Advanced SL 1 Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Disc £5,899.00
Propel Advanced SL 0 Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 Disc £8,999.00
Defy




Defy Advanced 3 Endurance Carbon-fibre Shimano Tiagra Disc £1,499.00
Defy Advanced 2 Endurance Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £1,699.00
Defy Advanced 1 Endurance Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £1,999.00
Defy Advanced Pro 2 Endurance Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £2,799.00
Defy Advanced Pro 1 Endurance Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £3,199.00
Defy Advanced Pro 0 Endurance Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Disc £4,499.00
Contend




Contend 2 All-rounder Aluminium Shimano Claris Rim £579.00
Contend 1 All-rounder Aluminium Shimano Sora Rim £699.00
Contend SL 2 All-rounder Aluminium Shimano Tiagra Rim £899.00
Contend SL 2 Disc All-rounder Aluminium Shimano Tiagra Disc £999.00
Contend SL 1 All-rounder Aluminium Shimano 105 Rim £999.00
Contend SL 1 Disc All-rounder Aluminium Shimano 105 Disc £1,249.00
AnyRoad




AnyRoad 2 Adventure Aluminium Shimano Sora Disc £899.00
AnyRoad 1 Adventure Aluminium Shimano Tiagra Disc £1,399.00
AnyRoad Advanced Adventure Carbon-fibre Shimano Tiagra Disc £1,799.00
Liv Enviliv




Liv Enviliv Advanced 2 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Rim £1,599.00
Liv Enviliv Advanced 1 Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £1,899.00
Liv Enviliv Advanced Pro Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £3,149.00
Liv Enviliv Advanced Pro 2 Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £3,499.00
Liv Enviliv Advanced Pro 1 Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £3,999.00
Liv Enviliv Advanced Pro 0 Disc Aero Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Disc £4,899.00
Liv Langma




Liv Langma Advanced 3 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Tiagra Rim £1,299.00
Liv Langma Advanced 2 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Rim £1,499.00
Liv Langma Advanced 2 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £1,749.00
Liv Langma Advanced 1 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £1,799.00
Liv Langma Advanced 1 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £1,999.00
Liv Langma Advanced Pro 2 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £2,599.00
Liv Langma Advanced Pro 1 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Rim £2,799.00
Liv Langma Advanced Pro 1 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £2,999.00
Liv Langma Advanced Pro 0 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Rim £4,299.00
Liv Langma Advanced Pro 0 Disc Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Disc £4,499.00
Liv Langma Advanced Pro Frameset Road Carbon-fibre
Rim £1,299.00
Liv Langma Advanced SL 1 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Di2 Rim £4,999.00
Liv Langma Advanced SL 0 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 Rim £7,999.00
Liv Avail




Liv Avail 2 Road Aluminium Shimano Claris Rim £599.00
Liv Avail 1 Road Aluminium Shimano Sora Rim £725.00
Liv Avail SL 2 Road Aluminium Shimano Tiagra Rim £899.00
Liv Avail SL 2 Disc Road Aluminium Shimano Tiagra Disc £999.00
Liv Avail SL 1 Road Aluminium Shimano 105 Rim £999.00
Liv Avail SL 1 Disc Road Aluminium Shimano 105 Disc £1,249.00
Liv Avail Advanced 3 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Tiagra Disc £1,499.00
Liv Avail Advanced 2 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano 105 Disc £1,699.00
Liv Avail Advanced 1 Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £1,999.00
Liv Avail Advanced Pro Road Carbon-fibre Shimano Ultegra Disc £2,999.00
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IanEdward [225 posts] 1 year ago
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OK, I'm still a bit of a disc-brakes-on-road-bikes naysayer, but was prepared to be persuaded this year by the Giant Defys, I like the paint jobs, the geometry, and the general spec (and also that they're available in plenty of shops near me).

But what's with the weird spec? Surely those mechanical to hydraulic convertors are just a work around, why on earth would you spec from new? Seems like the worst of both worlds (still got cables to work with, but still need bleeding?) plus the extra weight and clutter of the convertor box.

I'd reserve judgement on the own brand callipers as I seem to remember Giant's own brand brakes had some nicely thought out features, but still, it seems like a step in the wrong direction to tempt luddites like me off the fence. Is this an indication of cost pressures on manufacturers, or is there a scarcity of Shimano disc brakes in the industry, that a massive company like Giant needs to mix'n'match like this?

Anyway, I doubt Giant need to worry about the 0.005% of people like me in the UK looking for endurance geometry but with no discs, so I'll just look forward to the arrival of my new Rose Xeon which I ordered instead : )

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steviewevie [52 posts] 1 year ago
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I don't understand why they've gone with the weird mechanical to hydraulic converters either. I was all set to buy something from the Giant Defy Advanced (not Pro) range for 2018 but those have put me right off. Also they don't even have full Ultegra in that range, just an Ultegra/105 mix-and-match (ok, I know there's not that much difference between those two ranges).

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Chris Hayes [330 posts] 1 year ago
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Always had a bit of a soft-spot for Giant frames: they are what they are, Taiwanese, value and quality - as opposed to Taiwanese and pretending to be Italian.... that said, the variations on these bikes is making my head spin.

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bobinski [294 posts] 1 year ago
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I have just moved into a tcr advanced disc 2 from a defy pro. I am astonished by how comfortable the whole bike is despite the more aggressive set up in the stock wheels and tyres for this 54y old body. 80 miles yesterday.  It rides wonderfully when pootling  but give it some power and it tracks as if on rails but responds immediately to rider input to get around potholes etc. I expect further improvement when I migrate my Hunt 4 season wheels shod with tubeless Ones. I thought I would miss ultegra as on my defy but 105 hydro is even better than the 5800 on my commuter, especially the brakes. It could be set up but then set up by the same person. I cannot wait to put some deep section wheels on next year and see how it rides. 

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partsandlabour [38 posts] 9 months ago
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Great bikes.. Bloody awful paint/graphics. The propel advanced sl 1 disc looks like a toy with flame stickers on it. Surely I'm not the only one thinking that their graphics team are letting the side down?

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fukawitribe [2601 posts] 9 months ago
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steviewevie wrote:

I don't understand why they've gone with the weird mechanical to hydraulic converters either. 

I'm guessing that it's to do with the price of hyrdaulic road shifters - the Conduct brakes are fitted to the cheaper models, perhaps the margins are thinner there. Hope, amongst others, have had short span cable-to-hydraulic convertors for years now and they seem to get good reviews as a reasonable compromise - so the tech is not without some merit. I'm still somewhat bemused by the difference in price between fully hydraulic road and MTB setups e.g. you can get a very good, complete off-road setup for less than the price of a single Ultegra hydro-STI...

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Quattro95 [2 posts] 3 weeks ago
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Can anyone speak to the quality of the carbon fiber used in the Advanced SL 0 frame compared to other top carbon fiber frames from Italian frame builders like Pinarello, Bianchi, American builders like  Trek and Cannondale, and all the other top brands, is this frame as good of a quality carbon fiber prodiuct as the others that are priced significantly more?

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peted76 [1182 posts] 3 weeks ago
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Quattro95 wrote:

Can anyone speak to the quality of the carbon fiber used in the Advanced SL 0 frame compared to other top carbon fiber frames from Italian frame builders like Pinarello, Bianchi, American builders like  Trek and Cannondale, and all the other top brands, is this frame as good of a quality carbon fiber prodiuct as the others that are priced significantly more?

Giant are the largest manufacturer of performance bikes in the world, they make frames for many other brands in thier factories.

Pinarello, Bianchi, Trek, Specalized, Cannondale all outsource some or all of their bikes to far eastern factories, I'm quite sure some of those will be to Giant.
Regarding the top end SL0, it was ridden to victory by Sunweb in last years Giro and it's rare you'll find a bad review of any Giant bike. 

If anything, Giant bikes are considered a souless choice of a bike, but if you think that a Bianchi Specialissima is made by the same people using the same techniquies, then Bianchi (as example) are left with just history and hyperbole.

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iso2000 [109 posts] 3 weeks ago
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Is it me or do the handlebars on the Defy Advanced Pro look too short? If you tilted the bar upwards there wouldn’t be much to hold onto when on the drops.