New Shimano LX: it’s LX, but not as we know it.

A few people go camping in their cars with bikes so should you start car reviews on the best vehicle for that ?

I think you’re crossing the line here . I cycle camp and for that I might expect reviews for camping gear sleeping bags, stoves etc. But if im cycle camping im not looking for roof tents that are aimed at campers and nothing to do with cycling.

You have a good memory! I commented on my route decision. WUCA has really tried to clarify things with the supported vs self supported approach. In my Letter of Intent I laid out that I was going to do it self supported using the Tour Divide principles. So when my derailleur failed in China I organised a new one to be sent to a hotel in Mt Isa, when I tore my rain pants I got a Warmshowers host in North Dakota to receive the replacement, I never sought out people to ride with me, etc. But I still failed. I saw my wife at the end of each day in NZ (but I carried 100% of my kit at all time!), and I spent 2 nights staying with friends. So I think I got as close as possible to the principles of self supported as I could.

You have a good memory! I commented on my route decision. WUCA has really tried to clarify things with the supported vs self supported approach. In my Letter of Intent I laid out that I was going to do it self supported using the Tour Divide principles. So when my derailleur failed in China I organised a new one to be sent to a hotel in Mt Isa, when I tore my rain pants I got a Warmshowers host in North Dakota to receive the replacement, I never sought out people to ride with me, etc. But I still failed. I saw my wife at the end of each day in NZ (but I carried 100% of my kit at all time!), and I spent 2 nights staying with friends. So I think I got as close as possible to the principles of self supported as I could.

@mctrials23 When I was planning my 2025 World Record ride I raised this issue with Jenny Graham. She said Guinness was set up for records like balancing the most number of books on your head, not these multi day efforts. Fortunately, WUCA are putting in place much clearer rules and I expect that the Guiness rules will be less relevant. They are also quite limiting, I am the first disabled person to do the challenge, but Guiness don't recognise brain injury under their disability category. With regard to comparing the different routes, Mark Beaumont did a great GCN interview on this at the time of Laels last attempt. He pointed out that there are two approaches. Go fast which means avoiding Asia with big loops in North America, or keep to the 'spirit' of the challenge. The latter means if you put your route on the living room wall it looks like you circumnavigated the world. Jenny and Mark's rides were the latter, Lael's the former. I originally had a route very similar to hers but decided my record would be 'tainted' by being within the rules but not the spirit. So I went to one like Mark suggested, with over 7,000 km in Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and China.

@mdavidford Same day, Same badge. They're out there! and no such driver has ever considered 'not driving' anywhere, or climate change, or not having a Panzer or 'cyclist ahead' etc. etc. ttps://upride.cc/incident/pg21fwa_bmw_uwlcross/

@mctrials23 When I was planning my 2025 World Record ride I raised this issue with Jenny Graham. She said Guinness was set up for records like balancing the most number of books on your head, not these multi day efforts. Fortunately, WUCA are putting in place much clearer rules and I expect that the Guiness rules will be less relevant. They are also quite limiting, I am the first disabled person to do the challenge, but Guiness don't recognise brain injury under their disability category. With regard to comparing the different routes, Mark Beaumont did a great GCN interview on this at the time of Laels last attempt. He pointed out that there are two approaches. Go fast which means avoiding Asia with big loops in North America, or keep to the 'spirit' of the challenge. The latter means if you put your route on the living room wall it looks like you circumnavigated the world. Jenny and Mark's rides were the latter, Lael's the former. I originally had a route very similar to hers but decided my record would be 'tainted' by being within the rules but not the spirit. So I went to one like Mark suggested, with over 7,000 km in Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and China.

@mdavidford Yeah, definitely Wilcox. And the depth of the research used here is also attested to by the consistent misspelling of Victor Bosoni's name...

@swagman - Lots of cyclists own cars - Lots of those car-owning cyclists like to drive their bikes nice places to cycle (we don't all live in the Lake District) - Lots of those holiday-making-car-owning cyclists like to use campsites when they do that - Lots of those holiday-making-car-owning-camping cyclists would find this setup interesting – Ergo, it's not a new low for road.cc but a perfectly legitimate and appropriate product review.

@swagman - Lots of cyclists own cars - Lots of those car-owning cyclists like to drive their bikes nice places to cycle (we don't all live in the Lake District) - Lots of those holiday-making-car-owning cyclists like to use campsites when they do that - Lots of those holiday-making-car-owning-camping cyclists would find this setup interesting – Ergo, it's not a new low for road.cc but a perfectly legitimate and appropriate product review.