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Shocking moment dangerous driver hits cyclists at speed after drifting onto white line; Jeremy Clarkson hates cycle lanes shocker; Trenching is the new Everesting: 91 ascents of Box Hill in 450km epic ride; Sagan in space? + more on the live blog

It’s the start of a new week and Dan Alexander will be getting you through Monday on the live blog
  • by Dan Alexander
Mon, Nov 30, 2020 09:21
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SUMMARY

  • Trenching is the new Everesting: Chris Hall climbs Box Hill 91 times in 450km epic ride
  • Pedal-powered SLS AMG
  • Dr Richard Freeman tribunal adjourned again, decision expected in March
  • Chris Akrigg's e-bike adventure
  • Portsmouth Kings Road segregated cycle lane to be scrapped after three-week trial
  • Shocking crash as driver hits cyclist at speed after drifting onto white line while passing the group
  • The next generation of Monument winners
  • Chris Hall's epic ride
  • Dame Sarah Storey busts common active travel myths
  • Velobici launches Cobalto Thermal winter cycling collection
  • Jeremy Clarkson hates cycle lanes shocker
  • Interview with Craig Johnston, the cyclist hit in that shocking video, on local radio in Australia
  • Peter Sagan's quiet off season
  • 16 spin bikes stolen from leisure centre
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30 November 2020, 09:21

Trenching is the new Everesting: Chris Hall climbs Box Hill 91 times in 450km epic ride

Cycled up and down Box Hill 91 times this weekend to help raise awareness for the alarming statistic that 91 men take their own lives each week and to fundraise for @MovemberUK.

If you’re able to support their work head here: https://t.co/OecpYwGwku pic.twitter.com/T7QPLHjftT

— Chris Hall (@chrishallrides) November 30, 2020

Get out on your bike this weekend? Chris Hall did. Trenching is like Everesting, but harder. Rather than ascending the 8,848m height of Mount Everest you descend the altitude of the deepest oceanic trench on earth. The Mariana Trench reaches a depth of 10,994m and to descend that amount of altitude, Chris knew he’d have to do a lot of reps of Box Hill. The challenge was made harder by Box’s shallow 5% average gradient which made altitude gain slower than on a steeper climb.

All for the good cause of raising money for Movember he set off just before 7am on Saturday morning, rode for 25 hours and finished the challenge on Sunday afternoon. The Strava data from the ride shows he covered 451.5km and climbed 11,870m. Chris kept his average speed for the attempt comfortably above 15km/h and he burned over 13,000 calories. Chapeau.

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

30 November 2020, 09:21

Pedal-powered SLS AMG

30 November 2020, 09:21

Dr Richard Freeman tribunal adjourned again, decision expected in March

Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky)
Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky)
Dr Richard Freeman (picture credit Team Sky) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The Richard Freeman medical tribunal has been adjourned again. It was meant to conclude on Thursday but will now resume on January 22 when both parties will give their closing submissions before a ‘facts decision’ is expected to be published on March 2. The tribunal began in November 2019.

Last week the hearing heard that Shane Sutton was accused of ‘absolutely lying’ by a former team-mate over his denial of knowledge of doping. The fitness-to-practice case is centred around the former Team Sky doctor ordering banned testosterone patches while working for British Cycling. Freeman admits he ordered the banned patches but claims they were to treat Sutton’s erectile dysfunction and not for a rider. Sutton denies this.

30 November 2020, 09:21

Chris Akrigg's e-bike adventure

30 November 2020, 09:21

Portsmouth Kings Road segregated cycle lane to be scrapped after three-week trial

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pop-up cycle lane pic (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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pop-up cycle lane pic (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The BBC reports that the Kings Road segregated cycle lane in Portsmouth is to be scrapped after a three-week trial. Cycling campaigners have warned that the decision will increase congestion and pollution. It was installed earlier in November but almost 70% of 1,400 respondents to a council survey said the lane had a “negative impact” on the area.

Council transport chief Lynne Stagg said: “It is a shame that it has not worked but we are committed to continuing to work with cyclists, residents and businesses along these roads.”

However, the Pompey Cycle Forum have criticised the timing of the trial and said it should not have been run in late autumn during a national lockdown. A statement said: “There was not enough time to measure real aims of the scheme, which was to enable some residents to feel safe in switching their mode of transport away from relying on private vehicles, and towards using more sustainable methods.”

30 November 2020, 09:21

Shocking crash as driver hits cyclist at speed after drifting onto white line while passing the group

Shocking!
Newcastle this weekend. pic.twitter.com/jZ5rcJcV5n

— Michael Tomalaris (@miketomalaris) November 29, 2020

This shocking footage of a crash in New South Wales, Australia, shows the moment a driver collides with a cyclist as they drift onto the white line while passing the group at speed. The driver does not appear to stop in the video and the impact causes multiple riders in the group to fall. 

Despite the video some people have blamed the group of cyclists and not the driver. One commenter wrote: “WTF are they riding two abreast on a fast road? Cyclists are responsible for their own safety too. This is ridiculous and an accident waiting to happen.”

Another added: “As a motorcyclist you are taught to read the road and get in a position away from danger. It astounds me that bicyclists keep putting themselves in harm’s way. Regardless of rules, There’s room to ride single file away from the road edge, so why not choose the safer option?”

Riding two abreast is perfectly legal and NSW Police have confirmed they are investigating the incident. 

30 November 2020, 09:21

The next generation of Monument winners

It was so great to ride with @CalebEwan @Tim_Wellens and my twoo kids #Alan #Alexandre pic.twitter.com/aqVMaCBcu4

— PHILIPPE GILBERT (@PhilippeGilbert) November 29, 2020

 

30 November 2020, 09:21

Chris Hall's epic ride

This morning we shared Chris Hall’s staggering achievement. Over 25 hours of riding he covered 450km with 91 ascents of Box Hill to rack up the same descending elevation as the Mariana Trench. Chris did 91 reps of the famous climb smashing his 11,034m goal and hit 11,870m by Sunday lunchtime. Cycling YouTuber Francis Cade joined Chris for the last stretch of the ride and has made the video above, documenting the challenge.

30 November 2020, 09:21

Dame Sarah Storey busts common active travel myths

Thread:

Last week was myth busting week over on the @SheffCityRegion Active Travel channel @CyclewalkSCR

We tackled 10 common myths which I’ve collated in case you missed any 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 please share far & wide, or use to help with your own responses to discussions we all encounter https://t.co/AGi3hLtMB9

— Dame Sarah Storey (@DameSarahStorey) November 30, 2020

30 November 2020, 09:21

Velobici launches Cobalto Thermal winter cycling collection

Velobici Cobalto winter range
Velobici Cobalto winter range (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Velobici Cobalto winter range
Velobici Cobalto winter range (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Designed to regulate your body temperature and keep you comfortable in all weather conditions, Velobici’s new winter cycling collection aims ‘to take you through the cooler months, with a style inspired by the gemstone in Campagnolo’s legendary Cobalto brakeset.’

30 November 2020, 09:21

Jeremy Clarkson hates cycle lanes shocker

Jeremy Clarkson on BBC The One Show
Jeremy Clarkson on BBC The One Show (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jeremy Clarkson on BBC The One Show
Jeremy Clarkson on BBC The One Show (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Death, taxes and… Jeremy Clarkson slagging off anything to do with cycling are just facts of life, as we all know. Speaking at the press launch of the new series of The Grand Tour (not the cycling type), he bemoaned London’s new pop-up cycling infrastructure.

“It took me three hours to get to where I am this morning, because the Mayor of London is an imbecile. He’s just turned the whole damn city into a cycle lane. I don’t mind one or two cycle lanes where it’s convenient but he’s put one in the Euston underpass. I mean, the man’s a maniac and must be stopped,” Clarkson said.

A spokesperson for Mayor Sadiq Khan responded to Clarkson: “London is facing an air quality crisis which is causing thousands of deaths per year and exacerbating the physical effects of Covid-19. Half of toxic emissions in the city are caused by road transport.

“These policies are about saving lives and Sadiq makes no apologies for the temporary emergency measures he has put in place to encourage the huge increase in cycling we’ve seen since the pandemic began which is also enabling social distancing on public transport. We mustn’t get through one public health crisis only to face another caused by congestion and toxic air pollution.”  

Clarkson has a long and consistent history of taking issue with cycling. In the past he has said that “bikes can f*@% off” and that cyclists are “idiots waging war on normality.”

However, it isn’t all bike hating on The Grand Tour – James May loves cycling and urged Boris Johnson to “bomb us with bicycles”, and even Clarkson himself lost 2st through the power of two wheels.

30 November 2020, 09:21

Interview with Craig Johnston, the cyclist hit in that shocking video, on local radio in Australia

Australian driver hits cyclists (screenshot)
Australian driver hits cyclists (screenshot) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Australian driver hits cyclists (screenshot)
Australian driver hits cyclists (screenshot) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Thankfully the cyclists involved in the crash in New South Wales are recovering well from the incident. Speaking on ABC, Craig Johnston, who is the rider videoed getting struck by the driver (you can see it further down the page), said: “[I’m] a bit sore and bruised but otherwise fairly okay. The scary thought was obviously if he came over another couple of inches it could have been a whole other story. I may not have been here and there would have been others that would not be here either. 

“There was another rider in front of me that was on the front of the group that also got hit by the car which doesn’t show up on that footage. He ended up with a larger open wound, a gash on his forearm, where I think it might have been the broken mirror that opened him right up, so he was in a bad state.

“It all just happened so quickly. Very frightening. You’re always mindful of the cars but you just like to hope people are aware while they’re out there driving on the roads and taking into consideration when they do see cyclists just to give us a bit of room.

“We weren’t doing anything erratic, there was no crazy movement. We were just riding along as we normally do, behaving in an orderly manner and before we know it clout, and it’s all over in a millisecond. Hopefully it [the video] just creates a bit of awareness to drivers about cyclists. I’m always cautious about vehicles on the road but I never thought this would happen.”

30 November 2020, 09:21

Peter Sagan's quiet off season

If this is Peter Sagan’s plan for beating Mathieu van der Poel and Wout van Aert in the Spring Classics next year then the UCI may have something to say. The three-time world champion took to the sky in a fighter jet and tweeted French astronaut Thomas Pesquet: “I pulled 7.9g in my recent flight in a fighter jet. It was a bumpy ride at times but I’m definitely getting better and I’ll keep training. Please call me when there is a spot in a SpaceX rocket to the Space Station. You can put me in the cargo bay if needed.”

30 November 2020, 09:21

16 spin bikes stolen from leisure centre

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surrey police car - via surrey police (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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surrey police car – via surrey police (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

West Mercia Police are appealing for information following a break-in at Droitwich Leisure Centre. Police say the offenders broke in just after 10.30pm on Friday evening and stole 16 Technogym spin bikes. Police Constable Dean Bowen said: “We are appealing for anybody that was in the area around that time on Friday evening to think back and please get in contact with us if they saw anything suspicious.

“In particular, we would like to hear from anyone who saw a white Mercedes Luton Box van approaching the leisure centre and then leaving a short while later.”

30 November 2020, 09:21

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30 November 2020, 09:21

Kensington and Chelsea cycle lanes to be ripped out this week

Kensington and Chelsea cycle lanes to be ripped out this week

Kensington and Chelsea council caves in to opponents of schemes on key London roads

30 November 2020, 09:21

Bob Jackson Cycles is saved – legendary frame-builder won't be closing for good after all

Bob Jackson Cycles is saved – legendary frame-builder won't be closing for good after all

Iconic frame-builder had been due to cease trading next month – but is now looking forward to “another 85 years” thanks to "additional investment" in the company

30 November 2020, 09:21

Teenage motorist who forced cyclist off road keeps driving licence

Teenage motorist who forced cyclist off road keeps driving licence

Cyclist had to take to grass verge to avoid being hit by 19-year-old Jack Hart

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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58 thoughts on “Shocking moment dangerous driver hits cyclists at speed after drifting onto white line; Jeremy Clarkson hates cycle lanes shocker; Trenching is the new Everesting: 91 ascents of Box Hill in 450km epic ride; Sagan in space? + more on the live blog”

  1. mdavidford
    November 30, 2020 at 10:40 am
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    Bloody cyclists – riding two

    Bloody cyclists – riding two abreast and taking up the whole road!

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  2. jollygoodvelo
    November 30, 2020 at 11:01 am
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    Re: Trenching – are the

    Re: Trenching – are the ‘rules’ established yet?  Can you, for instance, start at the top of a very large mountain?  😀

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      November 30, 2020 at 1:43 pm
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      Probably can, although you

      Probably can, although you would have to cycle back up it being as no mountain is 10k metres high on this planet. (Well until manned Mars missions it isn’t possible anyway.)

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      • OnYerBike
        November 30, 2020 at 2:29 pm
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        True, but if you’re allowed

        True, but if you’re allowed to start at the top and finish at the bottom, you could save yourself one ascent, which could be ~1km elevation gain if you choose carefully.

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      • joncomelately
        November 30, 2020 at 2:57 pm
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        No mountain has a peak 10km

        No mountain has a peak 10km above sea level, but Mauna Kea is over 10km tall from bottom to top – it’s just most of it is underwater. Not sure how easy it would be to descend that tho…

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  3. HarrogateSpa
    November 30, 2020 at 11:13 am
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    I guess can be fun to hear

    I guess can be fun to hear about people’s exploits, but I must admit I find “Everesting” of only mild interest. I’m not that keen for “Trenching” to come to the party.

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    • Velophaart_95
      November 30, 2020 at 12:36 pm
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      At first I was impressed by

      At first I was impressed by people achieving this, but now, it’s all a bit…meh. I’m actually bored by more attempts. 

      ‘Everesting’ is about climbing, but the ‘trenching’ is actually no different, is it? They’re still having to climb to be able to descend the correct amount of metres.

      They’re both purely physical efforts, and like hill climbing, etc require not much technical skills. Now if someone did it off road on a DH MTB trail, I’d be more impressed…..

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  4. StuInNorway
    November 30, 2020 at 11:22 am
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    The fact that the cyclists in

    The fact that the cyclists in N.S.W. were actually cycling on teh road shoulder, NOT “in the road” seems to have escaped many many people. The car actually swerves off to road to hit them.
    That’s not a road lane, it’s not a cycle lane, it’s the shoulder, outside the section of the road that is designated for actual use.

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    • Philh68
      November 30, 2020 at 12:29 pm
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      Spot on. This road is in my

      Spot on. This road is in my neck of the woods, and I use it semi regularly because it links to cycle routes. There’s a bicycle crossing at the intersection at my end to access it, a dangerous crossing point at an on-ramp because they were too lazy to put an underpass for cyclist in, and the road shoulder is 2.5m wide with the usual debris. There’s a 90kmh limit but drivers treat it like a racetrack – the roads either end are bottlenecks and they just can’t help themselves.

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    • sdalby1988
      November 30, 2020 at 2:52 pm
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      My thoughts exactly. That’s

      My thoughts exactly. That’s like a car driving onto the pavement, hitting a pedestrian and blaming the pedestrian for being there. A solid white line is basically a kerb. 

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      • Supers79
        November 30, 2020 at 6:06 pm
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        Technically the ‘hard

        Technically the ‘hard shoulder’ is part of the road so even if the driver hadn’t swerved into them, it would have likely have still been a very fast close pass.  Once the driver sees a cyclist up ahead, whether on the hard shoulder or in a cycle lane, they should move across partially into lane 2 when safe to give the cyclists 1.5 metres.  
         

        It does beg the question- would the cyclists have been safer riding on the actual carriageway thereby forcing overtaking traffic into lane 2? 

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        • Philh68
          November 30, 2020 at 9:18 pm
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          And the answer to that

          And the answer to that question is no. If the cyclist is hit when they leave the entire 3.2m wide lane for drivers to position their vehicle in, which would allow the driver to give up to a metre without leaving the lane, then moving closer to traffic just increases the probability of a close pass or collision. Road positioning when cycling is not what determines driver competence, nor should we go down the victim blaming rabbit hole by implying that the riders had any control over what the driver does behind the wheel.

          oh, and the hard shoulder isn’t classified as part of the road in Australia, it’s a “road related area”. Section 12 of the road act covers this.

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          • Supers79
            December 1, 2020 at 12:13 am
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            I don’t see it as ‘victim

            I don’t see it as ‘victim blaming’, it’s defensive cycling.  I’d rather be safe and alive rather than dead or seriously injured just to prove a point that it’s the motorists responsibility.  There are far too many idiots on the road to have any level of trust.  

          • Philh68
            December 1, 2020 at 3:55 am
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            You might not see it as

            You might not see it as victim blaming, but I do. There’s no contributory negligence, they’re riding in the road shoulder not the lane, no weaving, as a pack which means they are occupying the space of a HGV and are very visible. It was two hours after sunrise on a Saturday morning when traffic levels are low, the road is straight with good sight lines and there’s ample room for drivers to pass given two 3.2m wide lanes to the right of the cyclists. And you want to talk about defensive cycling, just what the f*ck else do you think they could do to prevent an inattentive driver from hitting them? Stay at home and not ride at all?

  5. Grahamd
    November 30, 2020 at 12:08 pm
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    That video is more than

    That video is more than shocking it’s sickening. I sincerely hope that all those cyclists involved are physically and emotionally ok. 
     

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    • NZ Vegan Rider
      November 30, 2020 at 7:35 pm
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      Agreed. Poor guys ;-(

      Agreed. Poor guys ;-(

      Scumbag driver did it and didn’t stop ;-(

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      • eburtthebike
        November 30, 2020 at 11:43 pm
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        NZ Vegan Rider wrote:

        Agreed. Poor guys ;-(

        Scumbag driver did it and didn’t stop ;-(

        — NZ Vegan Rider

        According to the radio interview, he did stop.  Should still be prosecuted and lose his licence though.

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  6. Steve K
    November 30, 2020 at 12:13 pm
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    Just to be a pedant, but if
    Just to be a pedant, but if the ride was about “trenching”, shouldn’t the headline read “91 DESCENTS of Box Hill”, not ascents.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      November 30, 2020 at 1:40 pm
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      Probably because the

      Probably because the ascending is the hard part.

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      • Steve K
        November 30, 2020 at 2:24 pm
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        You’ve obviously never seen
        You’ve obviously never seen me descending. (And, yes, I know that really 🙂 )

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    • eburtthebike
      November 30, 2020 at 11:42 pm
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      Steve K wrote:

      Just to be a pedant, but if the ride was about “trenching”, shouldn’t the headline read “91 DESCENTS of Box Hill”, not ascents.

      — Steve K

      Yes, rather like planes only being charged landing fees; they can take off as many times as they like for free.

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  7. Nigel Garrage
    November 30, 2020 at 12:16 pm
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    Didn’t see this reported or

    Didn’t see this reported or countered: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/29/exclusive-cyclists-shun-roads-designed-bike-friendly-250m-scheme/amp/

    Apparently the Telegraph stood around pop up cycle lanes at Birmingham, Bradford, Brighton, Bristol, Gloucester, Hull, Liverpool and Southampton, counted 34,726 vehicles and only 608 people cycling.

    Additionally, Shaun Bailey (Tory London mayor candidate) promising to pause temporary cycle lanes and suspend LTNs – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/29/shaun-bailey-will-pause-rollout-temporary-cycle-lanes-become/amp/. “The evidence is clear: LTNs have caused gridlock in London, even though there are fewer cars on our streets. By funnelling drivers on to main roads, the scheme has led to massive queues of idling engines pumping out fumes.”

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    • brooksby
      November 30, 2020 at 12:58 pm
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      I was stuck behind a long

      I was stuck behind a long queue of motor traffic – for several minutes, I tells ya! – waiting to cross Clifton Suspension Bridge this morning.

      Someone was sitting in their car at one of the toll gates, on their phone and with their hazard warning lights flashing.

      I don’t know whether they’d broken down, or if they’d suddenly realised that they couldn’t pay the toll, but they were causing tremendous congestion.

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    • Awavey
      November 30, 2020 at 1:26 pm
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      I was expecting it to get

      I was expecting it to get mentioned as the Daily Mail had picked up the story in that classic newspaper style of this other newspaper says this, and thats our story.

      But yes the Telegraph was at it again this weekend, must be target to print 3 stories/opinion pieces per Sunday edition at the moment, and you missed the disabled granny with £3000 of fines for driving through a LTN road, though total non story because it was only £2860 if the fines were paid at the full rate, and actually the council had already quashed all but 1 of the fines anyway.

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    • TheBillder
      November 30, 2020 at 3:35 pm
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      By that logic, rip out all
      By that logic, rip out all pavements, crossings, hard shoulders etc. Widen all doors so you can drive into any building.

      A little-known fact is that before 1885 when Benz introduced his invention, no one moved in towns at all because it’s actually not possible without a car. Trained ring-tailed lemurs brought food to town dwellers, otherwise they’d have starved.

      When will they understand that traffic jams are caused by traffic? If you want to get somewhere quickly in a city, don’t use a four wheeled vehicle if you can avoid it.

      Clarkson, cycling would be good for you even if that paunch would struggle to fit in what often passes for a bike lane to begin with. And what happened to the epiphany he’s supposed to have had in Thailand, realising cycling is useful and satisfying? Has that idea been lost to the urge to be controversial?

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    • EddyBerckx
      November 30, 2020 at 4:13 pm
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      Nigel Garrage wrote:

      Didn’t see this reported or countered: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/29/exclusive-cyclists-shun-roads-designed-bike-friendly-250m-scheme/amp/

      Apparently the Telegraph stood around pop up cycle lanes at Birmingham, Bradford, Brighton, Bristol, Gloucester, Hull, Liverpool and Southampton, counted 34,726 vehicles and only 608 people cycling.

      Additionally, Shaun Bailey (Tory London mayor candidate) promising to pause temporary cycle lanes and suspend LTNs – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/29/shaun-bailey-will-pause-rollout-temporary-cycle-lanes-become/amp/. “The evidence is clear: LTNs have caused gridlock in London, even though there are fewer cars on our streets. By funnelling drivers on to main roads, the scheme has led to massive queues of idling engines pumping out fumes.”

      — Nigel Garrage

      Everything the Telegraph prints these days can be safely ignored. Apparently it was once a respectable institution. No idea when.

      And the rival mayoral candidate? I wont even say his name. He’s an utter clown.

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      • hawkinspeter
        November 30, 2020 at 4:25 pm
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        I’ll just leave this here

        I’ll just leave this here

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        • BudgieBike
          November 30, 2020 at 11:23 pm
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          So left leaning website says

          So left leaning website says a left leaning paper is the most honest.   Also in today’s news. The pope found to be catholic 

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          • hawkinspeter
            December 1, 2020 at 7:09 am
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            BudgieBike wrote:

            So left leaning website says a left leaning paper is the most honest.   Also in today’s news. The pope found to be catholic 

            — BudgieBike

            As the pope is most definitely catholic, I presume you’re implying that left leaning papers are more honest.

        • Rich_cb
          November 30, 2020 at 11:50 pm
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          That is a pretty laughable
          That is a pretty laughable ranking system.

          The i is comparable in quality to The Economist?

          The Metro is equivalent to the FT?

          The Daily Star is higher quality than The Times?

          The Express is higher quality than anything at all?

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          • Compact Corned Beef
            December 1, 2020 at 1:18 am
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            It does seem a bit of a weird

            It does seem a bit of a weird metric doesn’t it?

            Although to be fair to the author of the graph, they do say that they’d probably score The Economist higher but for a lack of inclusion in studies on ‘news’ – perhaps rating it as ‘commentary’ instead?

            FT and The Economist should be easily as high as The Grauniad.

          • hawkinspeter
            December 1, 2020 at 7:08 am
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            That is a pretty laughable ranking system. The i is comparable in quality to The Economist? The Metro is equivalent to the FT? The Daily Star is higher quality than The Times? The Express is higher quality than anything at all?

            — Rich_cb

            On the page that graphic came from, it does detail that The Economist isn’t formally ranked due to lack of information as it’s not normally considered a newspaper in studies as it comes out weekly. It is noted that there’s no criticisms of it.

            The Times suffers because it includes The Sunday Times that has a large number of made up stories and it also suffered as it was the source for about 10% of misleading stories about the EU. It also has a large number of successfull PCC complaints against it.

            I think the chart looks biased, but I didn’t find any other direct comparison from a quick search. Can you provide a more accurate and unbiased comparison?

          • Captain Badger
            December 1, 2020 at 8:37 am
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            That is a pretty laughable ranking system. The i is comparable in quality to The Economist? The Metro is equivalent to the FT? The Daily Star is higher quality than The Times? The Express is higher quality than anything at all?

            — Rich_cb

            If you go to the website you’ll be able to understand how the ranking has taken place. Then you may criticise the methodology rather than the output. Currently you are falling for the popular fallacy, the argument from personal incredulity (AKA appeal to common sense).

             

          • Rich_cb
            December 1, 2020 at 9:59 am
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            You’re assuming I haven’t
            You’re assuming I haven’t been to the website. What type of fallacy is that?

            I have.

            The ranking is a joke.

            There are only two types of inaccurate articles that score you negative points. If a paper misleads in other areas there are barely any negative consequences.

            The ranking also openly relies on subjective statements, some even anonymously attributed.

          • hawkinspeter
            December 1, 2020 at 10:26 am
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            You’re assuming I haven’t been to the website. What type of fallacy is that? I have. The ranking is a joke. There are only two types of inaccurate articles that score you negative points. If a paper misleads in other areas there are barely any negative consequences. The ranking also openly relies on subjective statements, some even anonymously attributed.

            — Rich_cb

            I’d be interested in seeing a more rigorous comparison of UK papers (which are generally acknowledged to be amongst the worst for western Europe). Can you find some better comparisons?

          • Rich_cb
            December 1, 2020 at 1:43 pm
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            I’m not aware of any.
            I’m not aware of any.

            Most press rankings, ironically, seem to be designed to mislead the public.

          • hawkinspeter
            December 1, 2020 at 1:57 pm
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            Yeah, my admittedly brief

            Yeah, my admittedly brief search didn’t find anything better and to be honest I posted that diagram in part to provoke a response.

            I would agree, however that The Guardian does seem to be one of the more accurate news sources even though they are heavily left leaning (though that does align somewhat with my beliefs). Unfortunately, most of the right-wing press is either filled with un-truths or stuck behind a paywall (or both) so it’s tricky to get a balance.

          • Rich_cb
            December 1, 2020 at 3:17 pm
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            I think the Telegraph,
            I think the Telegraph, Guardian and Times are about equal when it comes to honesty.

            They all lie to support their editorial position.

            The Guardian often misleads in quite a subtle fashion, either constantly reframing arguments until a nuanced position becomes a firm fact or deliberately omitting the key facts that undermine the argument they’re making.

            The Telegraph prefers the classic ‘I’m a keen cyclist but…’ way of presenting half truths and deception. They seem to omit less than the Guardian IMO.

            There also seems far more diversity of opinion allowed in the Telegraph/Spectator/Times than there is in the Guardian.

          • Captain Badger
            December 1, 2020 at 10:37 am
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            You’re assuming I haven’t been to the website. What type of fallacy is that? I have. The ranking is a joke. There are only two types of inaccurate articles that score you negative points. If a paper misleads in other areas there are barely any negative consequences. The ranking also openly relies on subjective statements, some even anonymously attributed.

            — Rich_cb

            That’s more like it, you are now starting to criticise the methodology…. what would make it even better would be to make the criticism coherent. Baby steps though, well done on progress so far….

          • Rich_cb
            December 1, 2020 at 1:02 pm
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            Care to point out the parts
            Care to point out the parts that are not coherent?

          • Captain Badger
            December 1, 2020 at 1:50 pm
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            Care to point out the parts that are not coherent?

            — Rich_cb

            It’s a matter of presenting your arguments in an understandable way. You fired off a retort which starts with an assertion/accusation on my assumptions. I merely pointed you to the source. It would have been difficult to know that you had actually visited it from reading your OP, as you seemed to dislike the output at that point and made no mention of the methodology.

            Then follows subjective, hyperbolic opinion (“The ranking is a joke”)This doesn’t look particularly rational, and suggests (maybe wrongly or unintentionally I accept) of more of an emotional response to HPs post.

            The last couple of sentences were much better and gave some arguable critique to the data and its collation. That’s really the diamond that you want to present, but you must make sure that the reader can get to it without being browbeaten with your opinion first. Remember that you want them to come to that opinion themselves – you’re just going to present the evidence.

            All in all much better argument, but let down by the intro. I think it deserves a good C+

            Hope that helps.

          • Rich_cb
            December 1, 2020 at 2:16 pm
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            Your original reply began
            Your original reply began with “If you”.

            Clearly that was an assumption on your part.

            I was merely correcting your incorrect assumption.

            I then joked about fallacies to poke fun at your patronising tone.

            I then presented my opinion followed by the reasoning behind it.

            A perfectly rational structure.

            D – for your critique.

            Perhaps you should stick to shouting “Troll!” at people, it seems more your level.

          • Captain Badger
            December 1, 2020 at 2:56 pm
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            Your original reply began with “If you”. Clearly that was an assumption on your part. I was merely correcting your incorrect assumption. I then joked about fallacies to poke fun at your patronising tone. I then presented my opinion followed by the reasoning behind it. A perfectly rational structure. D – for your critique. Perhaps you should stick to shouting “Troll!” at people, it seems more your level.

            — Rich_cb

            You asked for my feedback, I gave it. Horse to water and all that. Have a great day 

            Edit: By the way, there’s only one individual on this site who I’ll shout Troll at. It’s not you. You’re not so bad, and have some potential for better things.

          • Rich_cb
            December 1, 2020 at 3:00 pm
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            You have an unsolicited
            You gave an unsolicited opinion and I asked you to back it up.

            You couldn’t.

          • Captain Badger
            December 1, 2020 at 3:17 pm
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            You gave an unsolicited opinion and I asked you to back it up. You couldn’t.

            — Rich_cb

            Aawww never mind. You’ll understand when you’re older. Now run along there’s a good chap

          • Rich_cb
            December 1, 2020 at 5:12 pm
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            The patronising tone didn’t
            The patronising tone didn’t work the first time.

            Looks like you’ll have to learn a new trick.

            You can learn the definition of coherent while you’re at it.

          • Captain Badger
            December 1, 2020 at 5:50 pm
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            Rich_cb wrote:

            The patronising tone didn’t work the first time. Looks like you’ll have to learn a new trick. You can learn the definition of coherent while you’re at it.

            — Rich_cb

            I’m sure I don’t know what you mean. Have a great evening

        • wycombewheeler
          December 1, 2020 at 10:48 am
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          I thought “The people seems

          I thought “The people seems remarkably high, didn’t think that was quality journalism” then I saw the scale. So depressing, a damning indictment of the people of this country really. They say people get the press they deserve, and to some extent it is true, if people are choosing to buy rubbish, then the publishers will print what sells.

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        • David9694
          December 1, 2020 at 4:54 pm
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          The quality scale denotes the

          The quality scale denotes the severity of the headache I get after 20 minutes of reading.

          But then how to explain the Mail, which has somehow pulled off the trick of being utterly tedious to read and is ranked rock bottom, below The Sun.  

          the duration of my exposure to these tabloids is dictated by how quickly the take away get my order ready. 

           

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    • ChrisB200SX
      November 30, 2020 at 4:29 pm
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      Nigel Garrage wrote:

      Additionally, Shaun Bailey (Tory London mayor candidate) promising to pause temporary cycle lanes and suspend LTNs – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/29/shaun-bailey-will-pause-rollout-temporary-cycle-lanes-become/amp/. “The evidence is clear: LTNs have caused gridlock in London, even though there are fewer cars on our streets. By funnelling drivers on to main roads, the scheme has led to massive queues of idling engines pumping out fumes.”

      — Nigel Garrage

      Shaun Bailey promising something that wouldn’t be within his remit. Sounds like the promised sunlit uplands of Brexit. The things he promised to abolish are not on TfL roads and therefore as London Mayor he can’t effect them. He probably knows this, it’s propaganda that some idiots will fall for. It’s quite obviously lying to get votes, but it seems there is no law against that?

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      • markieteeee
        November 30, 2020 at 9:01 pm
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        You’d like to think it’s he

        You’d like to think it’s he knows that LTNs are on council operated roads but then again he also says ‘the evidence is clear: LTNs have caused gridlock in London’ so maybe he’s genuinely clueless. The problem is with using anti-LTN nonsense to get votes is that the overwhelming majority of people who live in them are in favour of them. 

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  8. Philh68
    November 30, 2020 at 12:31 pm
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    The cyclist in that crash was

    The cyclist in that crash was interviewed on local radio: https://www.abc.net.au/radio/newcastle/programs/breakfast/cycling-safety/12933940

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    • eburtthebike
      November 30, 2020 at 9:50 pm
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      Philh68 wrote:

      The cyclist in that crash was interviewed on local radio: https://www.abc.net.au/radio/newcastle/programs/breakfast/cycling-safety/12933940

      — Philh68

      Incredibly, the interviewer asks if there was anything the cyclists could have done to avoid the collision, but not if there was anything the driver could have done.  Are Aussie radio jocks trained to ignore the utterly bleedin’ obvious?

      Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any way of responding on line to the radio station to call them the imbeciles they are.

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      • Philh68
        December 1, 2020 at 2:03 am
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        That’s to be expected. There

        That’s to be expected. There’s no point asking the rider what the driver could have done differently because it’s a) obvious and b) speculative. An interviewer can only ask about the things within the subject’s control. The driver wasn’t interviewed.

        The question of what else the riders could have done is inane, but that is what you get when you have a national broadcaster that is used for more political free kicks than any other govt service and is constantly pressured to present a “balanced” viewpoint (even though we know balanced just means don’t upset the status quo). In any case, it’s the sort of question that would be asked in a courtroom by legal counsel trying to establish (or refute) contributory negligence. And it’s a radio program and there’s no guarantee that listeners have seen or are able to see the video. So as silly a question as it was, it may be better that it was asked and answered.

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  9. half_wheel79
    November 30, 2020 at 2:46 pm
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    Chris Hall is an absolute

    Chris Hall is an absolute Hero, he’s done some seriously impressive feats to raise funds for some very worthwhile causes. He always comes across as a very humble man too. 

    We need more Chris’ in this world…

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  10. ChrisB200SX
    November 30, 2020 at 4:36 pm
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    Should trenching actually be

    Should trenching actually be called Marianaing?

    Marianasing sounds better I suppose.

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  11. wycombewheeler
    November 30, 2020 at 4:39 pm
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    Trenching – descend the same

    Trenching – descend the same depth as the trench, does this mean 91 descents and 90 climbs? and that by using a taller hill (or mountain) there could have been less climbing?

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  12. wtjs
    November 30, 2020 at 9:59 pm
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    I wonder if that was enough

    I wonder if that was enough of a ‘wobble’ to fulfil the Essex Police criterion for a significantly close pass?

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The brand behind it reckons it offers all "the performance of a great bike", but with extra motor assistance and the functionality to fold down "light as air" at... erm, 16.7kg
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Are 32″ wheels (or at least one 32″ wheel) really the future? Starling’s new Big Bird, Lewis’s LHP+ brakes + more from Renthal, Seido and Fast Suspension
Are 32″ wheels (or at least one 32″ wheel) really the future? Starling’s new Big Bird, Lewis’s LHP+ brakes + more from Renthal, Seido and Fast Suspension
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‘Extreme gravel’ bike tech is certainly intriguing… but it’s not new or unique enough to encourage me to add another bike to my stable (yet)
‘Extreme gravel’ bike tech is certainly intriguing… but it’s not new or unique enough to encourage me to add another bike to my stable (yet)
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Exposure Zenith 4
Exposure Zenith 4
A top-tier helmet light with fantastic beam depth, packed with useful modes and refined TAP technology, but it’ll cost you.
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‘Mega Mullet’ is officially a thing as Starling launches new 29/32-inch wheeled Big Bird… but brand remains unconvinced by growing big wheel trend
‘Mega Mullet’ is officially a thing as Starling launches new 29/32-inch wheeled Big Bird… but brand remains unconvinced by growing big wheel trend
The British steel specialist has jumped on the big wheel bandwagon with its latest creation... but surprisingly, its founder doesn't sound entirely on board with what 32" could bring to riders and the bike industry as a whole
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Light or rowdy? Boyd’s new Jocassee and Reiver gravel wheels cover both ends of the spectrum
Light or rowdy? Boyd’s new Jocassee and Reiver gravel wheels cover both ends of the spectrum
Boyd introduced two new wheelsets primed to please all kinds of gravel riders
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Norco’s lightweight e-MTB blends confidence with an agile ride – Norco Sight VLT TQ C2 first ride review
Norco’s lightweight e-MTB blends confidence with an agile ride – Norco Sight VLT TQ C2 first ride review
Norco's Sight VLT goes mid-power with TQ's HPR60 motor, and we've ridden it ahead of launch
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Nobl simplifies MTB wheel choice with Signature 36 and 38 wheelsets
Nobl simplifies MTB wheel choice with Signature 36 and 38 wheelsets
Fresh hoops from Nobl prioritise torsional flex and boosts strength with reinforced rim lips
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Specialized delivers Levo 4 power boost with free OTA update
Specialized delivers Levo 4 power boost with free OTA update
18-22% performance increase plus new features delivered to e-MTB via app
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ebiketips partners with Everything Electric for 2026! Here’s how your e-bike brand could get involved in the world’s top electric vehicle and home energy show
ebiketips partners with Everything Electric for 2026! Here’s how your e-bike brand could get involved in the world’s top electric vehicle and home energy show
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“The electric bike that won’t be stolen”: This full-size e-bike can fold down in six seconds, according to the brand launching it in the UK
“The electric bike that won’t be stolen”: This full-size e-bike can fold down in six seconds, according to the brand launching it in the UK
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Enigma partners with e-bike conversion kit specialist Skarper to add electric assist to its titanium bikes
Enigma partners with e-bike conversion kit specialist Skarper to add electric assist to its titanium bikes
Skarper has partnered with Enigma, bringing its “click-on” e-bike system to both new and existing titanium frames
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Merida eOne-Forty 675 EQ
Merida eOne-Forty 675 EQ
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Sharp rise in e-bike use may reduce fitness among young riders, review finds
Sharp rise in e-bike use may reduce fitness among young riders, review finds
The number of riders under the age of 24 has almost doubled over the past two years
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Ribble Allgrit E AL
Ribble Allgrit E AL
Unobtrusive motor combines with gravel tyres to encourage exploration
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New Jersey blanket e-bike licence and registration law will remove “a viable alternative to cars from the road”
New Jersey blanket e-bike licence and registration law will remove “a viable alternative to cars from the road”
All e-bikers in the US state will require a licence, registration and insurance from this summer. What could go wrong?
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Specialized delivers Levo 4 power boost with free OTA update
Specialized delivers Levo 4 power boost with free OTA update
18-22% performance increase plus new features delivered to e-MTB via app
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Latest Comments

jamesha100 8 hours ago

Same here. I have a helmet with built in front and rear lights and have a red light clipped onto my bag plus lights attached to my bike front and rear but still have drivers putting me in danger. My commute is about two miles and I normally have around four incidents a week where I have to brake hard or take other evasive action to avoid being hit by distracted drivers. A big percentage of these are drivers coming on to roundabouts when I am already on them.

in: “Driving a bus is difficult enough”: Bus drivers’ union says mandatory hi-vis jackets for cyclists would “make roads a safer place” and hits out at “poor visibility” of people on bikes
geomannie 531 9 hours ago

Glasgow's South City Way sounds great, does it not? As a user from before and after I wholeheartedly welcome the construction of the segregated route, but so much of the detailed construction is poor, if not unsafe. I provide a link to a presentation I made when construction was half complete (a personal view) and the construction errors remain outstanding to this day: crossed by high speed flared road junctions, poor colour differentiation, car door zone risks and so on. And yet cyclists come because they feel safe. It's a complex subject but IMHO the feeling of safety (or lack of) is a critical component. https://drive.proton.me/urls/B67AK44G90#CFueBGjscoWr

in: Cyclists outnumbering drivers at rush hour on busy Glasgow road, as campaigners hail “colossal” impact of safe cycle lanes
Jetmans Dad 9 hours ago

I can only conclude that you haven't been into a city in the last few years. Food delivery riders in particular are riding overpowered "eBikes" that are basically mopeds ... powered only via the throttle without pedalling at significantly more than 15mph. Problem is they look like normal bikes/ebikes and not like mopeds so that is what people describe them as. My reading of the article is that it is those vehicles that are being talked about here.

in: “Driving a bus is difficult enough”: Bus drivers’ union says mandatory hi-vis jackets for cyclists would “make roads a safer place” and hits out at “poor visibility” of people on bikes
AidanR 9 hours ago

I have the Trace and Tracer, which have essentially the same design, albeit smaller and less powerful. The controls are a little complicated but only because there are loads of options. In reality, once you've chosen your level of brightness, you'll only cycle through 1 or 2 options and it's dead simple. The lights are rock solid, bright, with good runtimes. The only thing I find annoying is charging them - if your fingers are slightly wet or greasy, getting the rubber out of the way of the charging port is a pain in the arse.

in: Exposure Boost 3
mdavidford 11 hours ago

Dance and padel is all very well, but when is Strava going to let me record my gardening?

in: Inventor of hand-worn cycling indicator thinks new brighter lights will win cyclists round after dim start to crowdfunding campaign — plus some very bling bars and… a speedsuit for gravel?!
mdavidford 11 hours ago

You can use it to check whether it's raining.

in: Inventor of hand-worn cycling indicator thinks new brighter lights will win cyclists round after dim start to crowdfunding campaign — plus some very bling bars and… a speedsuit for gravel?!
Rendel Harris 12 hours ago

If it's dusk, i.e. post-sunset, then the cyclists should have lights on and thus the colour of their top is irrelevant. If you want to complain about cyclists not having lights when it's mandatory then by all means do but their top has nothing to do with it.

in: “Driving a bus is difficult enough”: Bus drivers’ union says mandatory hi-vis jackets for cyclists would “make roads a safer place” and hits out at “poor visibility” of people on bikes
Bright Strider 12 hours ago

All of my Exposure lights with a button allow cycling through the modes with a short press. I have five of those; it would be odd if Exposure didn’t allow this functionality with the Boost 3. I also have two Exposure Burners if I remember correctly: they are rear lights for joysticks that clip on and are powered through the joystick charging port. They don’t have a button. None of my Exposure lights have failed. I looked at the Boost 3 review photos but none showed the button, so far as I could tell. I also have Moon lights. Good experience generally. One did fail, possibly because it was so thin it used to fall through the holes in my helmet onto the ground. Also, the UI and charge indicators vary for my Moon lights. Perhaps the latest ones are more consistent. My worst lights ever were from See.Sense.

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STATO 13 hours ago

Steve really doesnt like exposure products does he? Boost and Strada marked down for being too complicated. While the Zenith and Six Pack reviewed by his colleagues give them rave reviews (as most exposure products have on road.cc), the Zenith even touted as 'even more intuitive to use' with the same controls.

in: Exposure Boost 3
Hirsute 14 hours ago

They are more interested in dog shit. https://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/people/lancaster-police-launch-search-for-person-who-sprayed-dog-faeces-with-pink-paint-5605519

in: Police receive record number of camera submissions in 2025… most of them from cyclists (again)

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