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Live blog: Leave vs Remain Poll – Paris-Roubaix special; Police ploy to tackle bike theft in Hull… a gold bike; Police wanted to counter Lord Winston’s This Morning nonsense but didn’t get chance; Costs & benefits of driving and cycling +more

All the cycling news from this site and beyond…
  • by Alex Bowden
Fri, Apr 12, 2019 14:37
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SUMMARY

  • The costs and benefits of driving and cycling
  • Peter Sagan recons Paris-Roubaix cobbles
  • New Amsterdam bike parking facility opens, with each row including a unique motif of a bird to help you find your bike
  • But what if that gets pinched?
  • Swiss government says coffee "not essential" for life (we beg to differ)...
  • TweedLove’s Transcend Bike Festival unveils full line up for 2019
  • National survey reveals decline in cycling for leisure, sport and travel
  • Sounds like This Morning wasn't interested in the police view on Lord Robert Winston's demented ideas about bicycle licences
  • School cycling competition cancelled after thieves steal 30 Chris Hoy bikes
  • Friday Leave vs Remain poll: leave and take a smoother line or remain on the cobbles?
  • A bit more on that painted cycle lanes story from earlier in the week
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12 April 2019, 14:37

The costs and benefits of driving and cycling

A new study has calculated the per kilometre cost of driving, cycling and walking in the EU.

Eltis reports that the parameters used were:

  1. Environment
  2. Travel time and vehicle operation
  3. Health, accidents and perceived comfort
  4. Perceived safety and discomfort
  5. Quality of life, tourism and infrastructure

They concluded that each kilometre driven by car incurs an external cost of €0.11, while cycling and walking represent benefits of €0.18 and €0.37 per kilometre.

Extrapolated to the total number of passenger kilometres driven, cycled or walked in the European Union, the cost of driving is about €500 billion per year.

Due to positive health effects, cycling is an external benefit worth €24 billion per year and walking €66 billion per year.

12 April 2019, 14:37

Peter Sagan recons Paris-Roubaix cobbles

All eyes will be on Paris-Roubaix this weekend, can Peter Sagan win it again? Here’s a video his Bora team have shared from their recon ride yesterday.

Also check out Peter Sagan’s’ race bike in-depth look here. 

Just 48 hours left until the start of @Paris_Roubaix! Here's a short video from our recon ride yesterday. @BORAhansgrohe pic.twitter.com/2wSYFPXZAm

— Peter Sagan (@petosagan) April 12, 2019

12 April 2019, 14:37

New Amsterdam bike parking facility opens, with each row including a unique motif of a bird to help you find your bike

Yesterday, the City of Amsterdam opened a new 1,300-space “fietsenstalling” (bike parking facility) at the Amsterdam Noord Metro Station.

Such investments make good business sense for Dutch transportation agencies, as they increase ridership and revenue.https://t.co/AUPoHI9xjR pic.twitter.com/gCZyuzJLva

— Dutch Cycling Embassy (@Cycling_Embassy) April 11, 2019

With room for over 1,300 bicycles, the new ‘fietsenstalling’ connects commuters to the city via the Noord Metro station. The handy bird-based guide to help commuters locate their bikes is a smart touch, and there are also dedicated spaces for cargo bikes.  

12 April 2019, 14:37

But what if that gets pinched?

Cycle crime prevention at Hull Paragon Interchange. We are getting an increase in cycle crime at the station. Follow us on twitter to get your bike registered ⁦@bikeregister⁩ #keepitlocked ⁦@TPExpressTrains⁩ ⁦@northernassist⁩ ⁦@Humberbeat⁩ ⁦ pic.twitter.com/W5hEZWl2wv

— BTP East Riding (@BTPEastRiding) April 10, 2019

Hull Live reports that an increase in cycle thefts in Hull City Centre has led the British Transport Police in the area to deploy this gold bike to highlight the issue. Cyclists are being prompted to have their bikes registered to prevent thefts. Hopefully the gold deterrent will work rather than ending up in a cash converters with the other nicked bikes… 

12 April 2019, 14:37

Swiss government says coffee "not essential" for life (we beg to differ)...

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The Swiss have stockpiled coffee and other provisions since World War One in preparation for shortages should any other national emergencies break out, and now the government want to phase out coffee from the list by 2022 because they don’t deem it essential. The explanation on the Swiss Federal Council website reads: “The national economic supply has checked the maintenance of today’s compulsory storage of coffee. She came to the conclusion that coffee is not vital according to the criteria that apply today. That is, coffee contains almost no calories and therefore does not make any contribution to food security from a nutritional point of view. The risk of supply disruptions is also rated as low. The growing areas are spread over three continents and the harvests are possible all year round. The continuation of the compulsory storage of coffee is therefore no longer justified from a supply policy perspective.” 

Who wants to tell them that they’re wrong? 

12 April 2019, 14:37

TweedLove’s Transcend Bike Festival unveils full line up for 2019

For its tenth year TweedLove Bike Festival has undergone major changes with a new name, a new location, new partnerships and a major new line-up of events. The Gritopia gravel race is still on the cards alongside the Skinny Tweed sportive, a mega demo event over the three days and lots of family-friendly fun.
off-road.cc have all the details for the new Transcend Bike Festival with links to tickets for the 2019 event here. 

12 April 2019, 14:37

National survey reveals decline in cycling for leisure, sport and travel

Active Lives survey aims to provide snapshot of the nation’s sport and physical activity habits.

Full story here.

12 April 2019, 14:37

Sounds like This Morning wasn't interested in the police view on Lord Robert Winston's demented ideas about bicycle licences

Earlier this week, Lord Winston continued his absolute non-starter campaign to get cyclists licenced and registered in an appearance on This Morning on ITV.

After the Government told him there was no prospect of requiring cyclists to be licensed and insured because the costs would massively outweigh the benefits, he floated electronic tagging as some sort of solution.

Chris Boardman described both Winston’s stance and the fact that outlets give it airtime as ‘shameful’.

The tweet attracted an intriguing and enlightening reply from West Midlands roads police.

We did volunteer our services to give an #evidencebasedpolicing opinion on this matter, but it would seem that the producers weren’t interested as we had no reply #mainstreammedia is too often #theproblem instead of being #thesolution. Imagine what good they could do for society.

— West Midlands Police Road Harm Reduction Team (@WMPRHRT) April 9, 2019

12 April 2019, 14:37

School cycling competition cancelled after thieves steal 30 Chris Hoy bikes

Full story here.

12 April 2019, 14:37

Friday Leave vs Remain poll: leave and take a smoother line or remain on the cobbles?

 

It’s Friday, which means it’s time for our weekly poll… but it’s also Paris-Roubaix this weekend, so we’ve just about managed to find a way to intertwine the two. So, are you a hard knock through-and-through and think it’s all good vibrations, or are cobbles just simply no fun and best avoided if possible? Do let us know your thoughts! 

12 April 2019, 14:37

A bit more on that painted cycle lanes story from earlier in the week

The gist is they actually make life worse for cyclists.

Full story here.

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19 thoughts on “Live blog: Leave vs Remain Poll – Paris-Roubaix special; Police ploy to tackle bike theft in Hull… a gold bike; Police wanted to counter Lord Winston’s This Morning nonsense but didn’t get chance; Costs & benefits of driving and cycling +more”

  1. janusz0
    April 12, 2019 at 9:05 am
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    > “A new study”

    > “A new study”

    The authors have chosen to publish via Elsevier, so this valuable analysis is behind a paywall.

    On the other hand, it means that the closure of Hammersmith bridge to motorised vehicles is now enhancing the economy of west London.

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  2. burtthebike
    April 12, 2019 at 2:52 pm
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    West Midlands Police are

    West Midlands Police are right, and the biggest problem with cycling in this country is the media.  They are all over stories about electric cars saving the planet, teenage obesity bankrupting the NHS, pollution killing tens of thousands of people, but always, and I mean every time, they ignore the simplest, cheapest, quickest solution to all those problems and many more.

    I’ve had many discussions with my local BBC radio station about cycling, and BBC R4, but neither will give the benefits of cycling any air time, despite having a cast iron guarantee of balance in their charter and editorial guidelines.  We all know what the rest of the msm, the DM, Telegraph etc are like about cycling.  I used to be media officer for my local CUK branch, but it was impossible to get positive coverage, even Sustrans struggled to get good stories, and they are much more media savvy than me.

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    • Legs_Eleven_Worcester
      April 15, 2019 at 9:17 am
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      burtthebike wrote:

      West Midlands Police are right, and the biggest problem with cycling in this country is the media.  They are all over stories about electric cars saving the planet, teenage obesity bankrupting the NHS, pollution killing tens of thousands of people, but always, and I mean every time, they ignore the simplest, cheapest, quickest solution to all those problems and many more.

      — burtthebike

      They do this because the car industry, the Road Haulage Association and the multinational oil corporations spend billions every year on advertising in the British media.   They also contribute to the election fund of several high-ranking Conservative MPs – donations which are never registered as they take the form of free dinners, free holidays and other gifts.  

      The BBC does little more than toe the party line, as the Conservative Party ‘in-house magazine’.  

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  3. brooksby
    April 12, 2019 at 3:19 pm
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    I’ve never set foot in a Cash

    I’ve never set foot in a Cash Converters, I’m afraid.  However, don’t they ask for some proof that the item you want to sell them is actually yours to begin with?  If not, isn’t that breaking some sort of duty of care or even a law??    Sorry if that sounds naive.

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  4. Simon E
    April 12, 2019 at 3:21 pm
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    “Cyclists are being prompted

    “Cyclists are being prompted to have their bikes registered to prevent thefts.”

    Waste of time and money. Much better to advise on weaknesses of cheap locks and advise what to use (or what not to use) if you want to keep your bike.

    Regarding Winston, perhaps electronic tagging and live GPS tracking of members of the House of Lords would enable us to see just how many of them are in the House bar at any time.

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  5. hawkinspeter
    April 12, 2019 at 3:37 pm
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    I’ve got one of these cups at

    I’ve got one of these cups at home which kinda sums up my relationship with coffee:

     

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    • Legs_Eleven_Worcester
      April 15, 2019 at 6:02 pm
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      hawkinspeter wrote:

      I’ve got one of these cups at home which kinda sums up my relationship with coffee:

       

      — hawkinspeter

      Would you be good enough to tell me where you got that?   I think it needs to be added to some sort of ‘wish list’… 

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      • hawkinspeter
        April 15, 2019 at 6:10 pm
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        Legs_Eleven_Worcester wrote:

        I’ve got one of these cups at home which kinda sums up my relationship with coffee:

         

        — Legs_Eleven_Worcester

        Would you be good enough to tell me where you got that?   I think it needs to be added to some sort of ‘wish list’… 

        — hawkinspeter

        I got mine from DieselSweeties: https://store.dieselsweeties.com/products/fucking-coffee-mug but you may find copies of it cheaper on Amazon or EBay etc (and avoid US->UK delivery charges).

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  6. ktache
    April 12, 2019 at 3:39 pm
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    You would think that the BTP

    You would think that the BTP could have locked that gold BSO up better.  There is plenty of really good advice online, or they could have just asked someone who actually looked like they knew what they were doing.  If you are going to set an example set a good one.

    Rear lock, both seatsays, wheel rim to immovable object, front lock wheel rim to frame with bonus to the rack if possible.

    There is a lot of  “that will do” going on there.

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  7. Mr SciHub2
    April 12, 2019 at 4:02 pm
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    For those that want to access

    For those that want to access the article referenced.

    https://sci-hub.tw/10.1016/j.ecolecon.2018.12.016

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  8. brooksby
    April 12, 2019 at 4:47 pm
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    Is it me, or does the latest

    Is it me, or does the latest L vs R poll read like one of Deckards tests in Blade Runner…?

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    • ConcordeCX
      April 12, 2019 at 5:45 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      Is it me, or does the latest L vs R poll read like one of Deckards tests in Blade Runner…?

      — brooksby

      it’s probably you. How did you get on with the tests?

       

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      • brooksby
        April 12, 2019 at 9:40 pm
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        ConcordeCX wrote:

        Is it me, or does the latest L vs R poll read like one of Deckards tests in Blade Runner…?

        — ConcordeCX

        it’s probably you. How did you get on with the tests?

         

        — brooksby

        They wouldn’t tell me, and now I keep finding these teeny tiny tinfoil origami animals everywhere…

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        • hawkinspeter
          April 12, 2019 at 10:01 pm
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          brooksby wrote:

          Is it me, or does the latest L vs R poll read like one of Deckards tests in Blade Runner…?

          — brooksby

          it’s probably you. How did you get on with the tests?

           

          — ConcordeCX

          They wouldn’t tell me, and now I keep finding these teeny tiny tinfoil origami animals everywhere…

          — brooksby

          .

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    • hawkinspeter
      April 12, 2019 at 7:28 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      Is it me, or does the latest L vs R poll read like one of Deckards tests in Blade Runner…?

      — brooksby

      Describe in single words only the good things that come to mind about your bike

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    • Eton Rifle
      April 13, 2019 at 11:22 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      Is it me, or does the latest L vs R poll read like one of Deckards tests in Blade Runner…?

      — brooksby

      Is this testing whether I’m a replicant or a lesbian, Mr Deckard ?

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    April 12, 2019 at 10:34 pm
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    Does nobody know the

    Does nobody know the difference between “you’re” and “your” anymore?

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    • burtthebike
      April 13, 2019 at 7:31 am
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      FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

      Does nobody know the difference between “you’re” and “your” anymore?

      — FluffyKittenofTindalos

      It is an infallible way to identify Brexiteers, so while it’s wrong, it is extremely useful.  By their spelling shall you know them.

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      FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

      Does nobody know the difference between “you’re” and “your” anymore?

      — FluffyKittenofTindalos

      Whats’ your’e point? ‘

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wtjs 3 hours ago

@FionaJJ These officers deployed next-level stupidity, and it must be difficult for the police to find people this dim. It doesn't even need rolling-roads or whatever, just a reputable bike computer on a quickly changed mount for the difficult cases where a proper EAPC has been modded, although you would need to look hard in Lancashire to find a police officer who knows how to make a pedal cycle go. Most illegal electric motorbikes are immediately obvious, not least because the crim is wearing a face mask. I saw an obvious one tonight coming out of Garstang Sainsbury's, not pedalling but without a face mask because everybody knows that the police only come into the town to hide away in the police station 200 yards away.

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bikeman01 4 hours ago

Gustav Gullholm.. that's not a good look mate

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mdavidford 6 hours ago

@Chris RideFar I think what you meant to say was "REMOVE this and put it on PODCAST CC".

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As Mary Whitehouse never said - one doesn't have to read the article if one doesn't want to read about an off-road bicycle.

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