Alpinestars’ MotoGP-style airbag technology comes to mountain biking

-“Unavoidable” pavement driving defended by Guernsey environment and infrastructure committee – who says there’s “no single solution to road safety”- Holey moley. Though, I'm wondering if we can adapt the "but cyclists don't pay road tax" argument to this. There could be a big publicity campaign about the issue with a new law in place that states that all drivers in the area have to pay an extra tax for the damage done to the pavements by driving their heavy large vehicles on them. They can publicise the repair cost and show how much it works out per car owner... When compared with the zero damage done by people walking, this should hopefully raise people's hackles... And my own example of it: https://youtu.be/_qO2FIe5poE

First thing: climate effects we have now will continue regardless. Second thing: The UK is responsible for 1% of global emissions. So anything we do from now on will not fix the problem Which isn't to say getting people on to bikes, public transport or walking isn't a bad idea. But there's a dependency chain of before you can do *that*, you have to do *this*, and before you can do *this*, you have to have *that*. And at the head of it are energy, land, infrastructure, and money.

Are some of those cars e-cars? IIRC from the "car crashes into building" thread some of those are quite likely to fall over and/or get crushed. Even in station car parks!

Can Plugge explain how his circuit idea would accommodate Alpe d'Huez, Mont Ventoux etc? It obviously wouldn't. I suspect this is just a smokescreen for his doing a Gianni Infantino in wanting to monetise the sport - circuits would in his view mean he could end the tradition of cycling being free to watch by charging on circuits, which he has actually talked about previously. It might be cycling, but not as we know and love it.

All the talk about ebike batteries being dangerous is irrelevant as according to this article you can still take a folding ebike on no problem...!

@tomlew Even a small ebike battery has about 3x more capacity than a large laptop battery. So the difference is substantial. Also a laptop typically does not hit things or fall in the same way a bike does. It is just much less prone to physical damage - and if it does, it's usually the screen that breaks and it breaks beyond usability way before the battery is damaged enough to be unsafe to use.

@tomlew I think you're missing the point that many people will cycle to the station to get a train, and would therefore like to park their bike there. Safe(r) cycle parking is generally found within the station or the car park. And for those with mobility issues, getting as close to the train as possible on their bike is obviously important. I'm not suggesting that different qualities of conversions can be easily told apart, although there are plenty of terrible ones which are painfully obvious. Yes, it is feasible that a dedicated EPAC could have a damaged battery from a crash, although it's likely that the rest of the bike would be in a pretty bad state. Instead we can look to the stats, which suggest that the risk of fire from a dedicated EPAC is minimal, and this will of course include bikes that have sustained such damage. I'm not saying that you (or the train company) don't have legitimate concerns, but a blanket ban with no consultation is a lazy and discriminatory way of dealing with such concerns.

Um, think you've rather lost track of the argument there - haven't followed the train of thought. In your eagerness to rail on what seems to be a bit of a bogie subject for you, you've become uncoupled from the logic of the discussion.

But if one catches fire on the same train as me i will likely know about it, and if one goes pop in the car carriage several might... But yes, they should be in their own separate carriage, unlike say a phone or laptop. But both of those are "very safe", although when they do go it's very much enough to make you take notice and they may be getting on for 1/3 the capacity of an eBike...

Apparently to several untrained eyes my non-powered Cube Travel Exc is an eBike, with "motors" (actually a hub gear and hub dynamo at the front) and wires... Also it's currently on staff what they do and don't carry anyway. But they're already carrying batteries with similar capacity to ebikes (in wheelchairs) and a fair fraction of that (laptops, power banks etc). And as others note they propose keeping bikes from entering the station at all (again given mine's been misidentified a few times that would be unwelcome) I can see the point ( I'd be happy if they don't let on DIY Surons) but I'm not sure this is the way.