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Driver pleads guilty to public order offence for hurling abuse at cyclist

A Birmingham motorist has been ordered to pay a cyclist £25 in compensation after pleading guilty to a public order offence following a road rage incident last August, which was filmed on the rider’s helmet camera.

The news comes less than a fortnight after we reported on the conviction of a London driver who had verbally threatened cycling lawyer Martin Porter in an incident similarly captured on film.

The Birmingham Mail reports that 38-year old IT consultant Rob Styles was cycling home from work along Pershore Road, Stirchley, when the incident occurred at 6.25pm on the evening of 25 August.

As the camera footage shows, a car pulled up alongside him, halting on the pavement, with the driver, 55-year-old Robert Johnson from Selly Oak.

He then getting out and unleashing a tirade peppered with four letter words at Mr Styles, asking him, “Do you want a f*cking fight?”

Mr Styles subsequently uploaded the video to YouTube.

The motorist pleaded guilty to a public order offence at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court on Thursday, and besides being ordered to pay Mr Styles £25 compensation, was also ordered to pay £105 costs.

Mr Styles said: “Cyclists have a right to be on the road. It was pretty scary, I thought I was going to get hit.”
 

Born in Scotland, Simon moved to London aged seven and now lives in the Oxfordshire Cotswolds with his miniature schnauzer, Elodie. He fell in love with cycling one Saturday morning in 1994 while living in Italy when Milan-San Remo went past his front door. A daily cycle commuter in London back before riding to work started to boom, he's been news editor at road.cc since 2009. Handily for work, he speaks French and Italian. He doesn't get to ride his Colnago as often as he'd like, and freely admits he's much more adept at cooking than fettling with bikes.

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Colin Lynch [15 posts] 4 years ago
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The guy in front's saddle was too low.

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TheHatter [770 posts] 4 years ago
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25 quid compensation? That sort of abuse is enough to put people off cycling for good which would really impair their quality of life - I'd say that called for a lot more than £25 which is about a third of a tank of petrol.

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Pifko [110 posts] 4 years ago
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Hah, look how uncomfortable the idiot's Son is in the passenger seat. Priceless.

Well, £25 actually.

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Tony Farrelly [2868 posts] 4 years ago
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Can't help feeling he wouldn't have been so keen to ask the rider in front if he wanted a “f*cking fight?”

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nudger [4 posts] 4 years ago
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On reflection, £25 is quite steep when you consider that the driver has to look in the mirror and see his own fat, plethoric, hypertensive, miserable bowling ball with fluff on top face everyday of his tiresome and futile existence.

At least he has been made to look like a bell-end on the world wide web.

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JohnS [198 posts] 4 years ago
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What on earth was Mr Angry on about? So far as I can see the cyclists were riding by the book.

And a piddling £25 fine for threatening someone? A short spell in chokey could be more effective in calming him down.

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mad_scot_rider [581 posts] 4 years ago
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You'd get more for a stushie outside your local on Saturday night

Pathetic

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antigee [343 posts] 4 years ago
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as far as I can see prosecution could have been under either of two sections of the Public Order Act:

Harassment, alarm or distress (disorderly conduct) section 5, maximum sentence of a fine of £1,000

Fear of violence section 4, maximum of six months imprisonment and/or a fine not exceeding £5,000

so as the driver had to pay compensation and not a fine did he escape a criminal conviction? - i read that as the evidence was compelling and court will have to do something...but would rather have done nothing?

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gb901 [151 posts] 4 years ago
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Surely guilty of section 4 public order offence for fear of violence? £25 fine plus £105 costs seems rather paltry?

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uksportives [25 posts] 4 years ago
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Oh Dear.... The guy in front Love Him....

Would be great to see Love and Peace on the roads, One day..

Cyclist shouldn't have to go around wearing Helmet cams, they should feel just as safe on the rods as Motorist do, besides Most cyclist I know, are car owners anyway..

There was no need for that at all...

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downfader [203 posts] 4 years ago
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£25 is surely a pisstake. I hope at the very least he will have a record now and that if he takes that "line" with anyone else that he'll get a more severe punishment.

This is the kind of thing that puts people off riding the bike... as already said.

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spud22 [6 posts] 4 years ago
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looking at the video, thought id take a look at this persons other links.
I have to say that the person that has posted this although has got justice, i cant help feeling hes putting the name of us cyclist in a badlight. refering to you tube
mmmmmrob search this as interesting.

I certainly am not a cyclist like this, and wish not to be,

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PhilRuss [390 posts] 4 years ago
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Colin Lynch wrote:

The guy in front's saddle was too low.

Yeah, and his legs are too tattoo'd, too.
PR.

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PhilRuss [390 posts] 4 years ago
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tony_farrelly wrote:

Can't help feeling he wouldn't have been so keen to ask the rider in front if he wanted a “f*cking fight?”

Yes, Tony, I had the same thought....might be an idea to form a regular two-up on the daily commute, with whoever's willing, which I imagine would limit abuse from drivers quite considerably...
P.R.

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spud22 [6 posts] 4 years ago
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the tattoos looked very new.not sure i like them much. Certainly distinctive.

hey anyone looked at youtube mmmmmrob
anyone agree with me this is giving us a bad name.

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AWPeleton [3347 posts] 4 years ago
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spud22 wrote:

the tattoos looked very new.not sure i like them much. Certainly distinctive.

hey anyone looked at youtube mmmmmrob
anyone agree with me this is giving us a bad name.

What has tattoo's got to do with anything ?

looked at youtube, could only find one clip from mmmmmrob and it didn't seem to bad unless i'm missing something  39

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downfader [203 posts] 4 years ago
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spud22 wrote:

the tattoos looked very new.not sure i like them much. Certainly distinctive.

hey anyone looked at youtube mmmmmrob
anyone agree with me this is giving us a bad name.

A) the tattoos looked re-inked to me, not new. Looks like team tats.

B) No I dont agree this is giving us a bad light. He's reacting to a stressful situation, not entirely knowing what exactly is going to happen. In that situation you want to stop people in their tracks and if it makes this driver refrain from giving him a smack then fair enough.

Even if the rider took to the streets with his bits hanging out and set fire to schools with a maniacal cackle it wouldnt put US in a bad light because we all stand as individuals in society with individual responsibilities to a given circumstance, and leading to individual consequence should it go wrong or we lead it to be.

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davebinks [151 posts] 4 years ago
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Am I missing smething, but I cannot see any link between the cycling and the abuse scenes..??
It sems to be 3 bits of video cut and pasted together.

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downfader [203 posts] 4 years ago
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davebinks wrote:

Am I missing smething, but I cannot see any link between the cycling and the abuse scenes..??
It sems to be 3 bits of video cut and pasted together.

Doesnt look like that to me. Are you sure you're not confused by his head whipping around fast..?

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spud22 [6 posts] 4 years ago
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I aggree davebinks, im struggling to see this and agree video is missing something, something not quite right,
especially since looking at youtube mmmmmrob, seems hes enjoying what hes doing.

google youtube mmmmmrob, there are about 8 other vids involvng this cyclist.

ps... just found out cyclistis is an It, media, photagraph, film geek...now it stinks

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spud22 [6 posts] 4 years ago
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you nned to go onto google then mmmmmrob ..theres about 8 videos, a poor council worker gets a good viewing

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davelodwig [13 posts] 4 years ago
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I'm sorry Spud22 but what exactly are you getting at?

You seem to be stirring the pot with quite some intent!

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downfader [203 posts] 4 years ago
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spud22 wrote:

I aggree davebinks, im struggling to see this and agree video is missing something, something not quite right,
especially since looking at youtube mmmmmrob, seems hes enjoying what hes doing.

google youtube mmmmmrob, there are about 8 other vids involvng this cyclist.

ps... just found out cyclistis is an It, media, photagraph, film geek...now it stinks

It seems all of your posts have been on this story. To me that says something stinks with YOUR approach to this story.

I would suggest you stop trolling here to provoke reaction.

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spud22 [6 posts] 4 years ago
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i have commented due to the interest this a has shown, Im not looking to provoke, only hightlight what ive seen via the you tube.

If all us cyclists did what this man does - no wonder we get bad press.

To be honest im not bothered about this story, more angered by mmmmmrob posting such stuff making us out to be
looking for stuff to happen.

Most motorists i see are great, some are idiots some perfect.
They probably think the same about us.

and no i wont stop,my view is as improtant as anyone elses.

YOUTUBE :mmmmmrob

I am both a cyclist and motorist, always different views

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downfader [203 posts] 4 years ago
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spud22 wrote:

i have commented due to the interest this a has shown, Im not looking to provoke, only hightlight what ive seen via the you tube.

If all us cyclists did what this man does - no wonder we get bad press.

To be honest im not bothered about this story, more angered by mmmmmrob posting such stuff making us out to be
looking for stuff to happen.

Most motorists i see are great, some are idiots some perfect.
They probably think the same about us.

and no i wont stop,my view is as improtant as anyone elses.

YOUTUBE :mmmmmrob

I am both a cyclist and motorist, always different views

So you are trolling then.

I watched all the guys videos. He only has about 7 that are cycling related. About 2 were extremely close passes, 2-3 were drivers pulling out at the last minute nearly taking his front wheel from him.

And you, in some kind of really odd fantasy world that only you inhabit, suggest he's giving us a bad name by documenting it.

Grow up.

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spud22 [6 posts] 4 years ago
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i rest my case.

ive said what i think. you say what you think.
Everyone can make their own minds up.

ps you grow up!!

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mmmmmrob [3 posts] 4 years ago
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Hi, thanks for all the supportive comments  1

What the report in the Birmingham Mail missed, and this missed as a result I guess, is that the driver was also given a two week ban. That is, his driving license was suspended for two weeks from the court date.

My videos aren't hidden or anything, you can find them all at http://www.youtube.com/mmmmmrob

I never set out to go to court, the videos I post are just the odd snippet if unusually bad driving in and around Brum. London Cyclists have it far worse from what I can see. In this case I posted the video online and a police cyclist actually asked me to report it through official channels.

Helmet cams are cheap and the evidence they record can keep you safe (or hurt you if you run red lights etc!) so may be worth buying. Up to you. How we ride is our own indidividual choice.

Stay safe  1

mmmmmrob
(the same mmmmmrob as on youTube)

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OldRidgeback [2627 posts] 4 years ago
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Good points Rob - the guy got a fine he deserved - wonder if it'll change his behaviour tho?

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workhard [397 posts] 4 years ago
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what kit are you using mmmmmmmmrob?

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Angelfishsolo [134 posts] 4 years ago
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Trouble is when a motorist picks on the wrong cyclist and gets decked the papers will be full of "Psycho Cyclist assaults innocent driver"......

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