Live blog: Bike cop PC Di collars texting scooter rider, Elephant Bike curling, helmet cammer, 13, records scary close pass + more
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60somethingcyclist 3 hours ago
Re. Pro-car campaigner slams “hidden agenda” to “slow down motorists, restrict parking, and deter travel” this is just another right-wing conspiracy loon spouting off their usual rubbish. Why give him publicity? Like the sad people who walk through our town centres ranting on about anything and anyone they're best ignored.
60somethingcyclist 3 hours ago
Been a cyclist since I was 5 (63 soon), but I can't support this kind of behaviour. Just dumping bikes like this isn't on. Lime should have been made to provide enough designated pick up points before they were allowed to operate the scheme.
AlanMyles 3 hours ago
It is easier to trace fatalities and match them with the news story. In 2018 for instance, the only reported death where a "cyclist" was the other party, was the death of Sakhine Cikan, who was killed by someone riding an illegally modified machine. I have done a bit of research for other years and found similar. Injuries are going to be harder.
IanMK 3 hours ago
It's quite important if it's an illegal motorbike, you could claim against the MIB for damages etc. How will you (or the MIB) know if it's not recorded properly.
Mr Blackbird 4 hours ago
I agree that all steps should be taken to avoid death or serious injury in sport. However, things can go wrong. Neck injuries in rugby, cardiac arrest in football, high speed crashes on descents in cycling etc. I don't know whether this was a case of a driver disobeying instructions and barriers etc, or something in the stage organisation got missed ; after all, ensuring that a longish cycling stage remains traffic free must be an absolute logistical nightmare. The main thing to take away is that whenever a tragic death etc occurs, it always leads to improvements in organisation, equipment etc to reduce the chances of a repeat. Examples are Casartelli's death in the TDF in 1995 playing a part in making cycling helmets mandatory, collisions and injuries caused by vehicles pulling out in front of amateur time triallers led to the making front lights compulsory in recent years. I do hope that any failings identified in this case will be acted on so that Tarling's tragic death was not a total waste of a young life.
cruachan 4 hours ago
Tragic news, my condolences to his family, friends and team.
Rendel Harris 6 hours ago
@Velo-drone I hold no brief for the UCI, but I believe their statement came out before the news broke that Finlay was hit by a driver. They presumably were guided by the race organisation's initial statement which also described his death as "a serious accident" with no mention of a car being involved and so had no reason to think it was anything but a racing incident (or accident).
tomlew 6 hours ago
@boblo This! Also the 'it’s a lot more relaxed than its policy suggests.' part is worrying. It sounds like 'we will decide arbitrarily based on the mood of our customer service rep'. If they claim something is their policy, why not say it - like - literally in the policy?
mdavidford 6 hours ago
Depends on your frame of reference. The Earth's rotational speed at that latitude is about 600 mph, it's orbital speed is about 67,000 mph, and the speed around the centre of the galaxy is about 514,000 mph - those could be considered quite fast-moving.
tomlew 6 hours ago
Don't worry. Crank makers will make sure you need to buy a new standard soon!
18 thoughts on “Live blog: Bike cop PC Di collars texting scooter rider, Elephant Bike curling, helmet cammer, 13, records scary close pass + more”
Lib Dem councillor in
Lib Dem councillor in desperate attempt to retain seat in a conservative dominated area???
It’s a pity these things can
It’s a pity these things can’t really be recorded in the book of karma and consequences.
I’ve been unfortunate enough to visit The Christie hospital in Manchester and it’s amazing; the research, kit and current survival rates in a large part funded by events such as these.
Maybe these types of people shouldn’t be allowed access!
The story about the Lake
The story about the Lake District zip wire represents a fantastic piece of news for those that love the outdoors and our countryside, which I would hope includes most cyclists.
The promise of the cycling development was really just a sweetener for the main application for a huge zip wire coming off the side of Helvellyn (recently voted Britain’s favourite walk).
The back of Thirlmere lake is already a wonderful place for cycling – several miles of well maintained road with virtually no traffic.
Those who love the Lake District – whether enjoyed on two wheels or two feet – will be delighted that this unwanted commercial development has now been put on the shelf.
The driver in this close pass
The driver in this close pass really should be reported and removed from the road. Effectively saying that their journey is more important than someone else’s life. Anyone who overtakes like that is clearly not competent to operate heavy dangerous machinery in public places.
burtthebike wrote:
It really was a dreadful manoeuvre on what looks a quiet road. I hope the police will take some action (due to public pressure?).
No criticism of the cyclist but she should learn to ride a little further out from the verge.
Duncann wrote:
she’s 13, you need a helluva lot of self confidence to rider further out from the verge on roads like that, and passes like that only push it down more.
Awavey wrote:
I know, and sometimes I don’t have enough self confidence even at several times her age. But if it’s the right thing to do, and she’s competent to be on the road alone, why wouldn’t you encourage it?
I’d be surprised if the
I’d be surprised if the oncoming driver hasn’t reported the murderous pillock. He was almost into the trees!
Shame his number plate seems to be offset and therefore illegible. (Alfa Romeo?) Too much trouble to trace as a witness by Plod, I expect.
One does wonder though if he might have anticipated such a crazy manouevre (Cyclist approaching with stupidly fast car behind.) and slowed down or even stopped. I often slow as cyclists approach, knowing how likely it is that the car behind will try on something like this. I’d like to think I would have done so in this situation.
pockstone wrote:
I reckon the plate of the close passing Vauxhall is GY64 VBJ. It ties in with the DVLA check.
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I reckon the plate of the close passing Vauxhall is GY64 VBJ. It ties in with the DVLA check.
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I reckon so too.
I’m talking about the oncoming car, whose driver would make an excellent witness (if they could be identified and traced).
Double post, sorry.
pockstone wrote:
I sometimes move over to the centre line in my car; this deters drivers from over taking as they can see there is no room to squeeze through.
hirsute wrote:
Yeah, must admit to doing that myself sometimes. Save everyone the trouble of a stupid pass by not making it possible.
hirsute wrote:
A tactic I’d use with caution. I think in this instance the offending driver might just have taken his car straight through the cyclist. He clearly didn’t give a toss!
pockstone wrote:
I do the complete opposite, I deliberately move to the centre line so that oncoming motorists can see even more clearly that they can’t overtake, 25 years and it works every time, backing off just allows the morons to think that all motorists will do the same and then you have an even worse situation created because well meaning types have caused confusion.
Stick with not ceding, it might be counter intuative but as with most things on the road the more you cede the more people take the piss and it spirals ever downward as we see every day.
The same thing happened with creating a death by careless and look how that’s given motorists and even bigger out and lowered the threshold yet again for prosecution.
Nice Relive jersey, they need
Nice Relive jersey, they need a revenue stream, but one off jerseys don’t last long. Strava tried it with their challenge kits, but people get bored; it is not a long term earner. Their best bet is to get bought be Strava.
Nice Wiggins kit; now where can I buy it without the ‘Wiggins’ on it?
One day one of those close passes is going to result in a head on crash. Lets hope the cyclist passes serenely through and we get to see the video.
Leviathan wrote:
Hang on you’re wishing an innocent party is involved in a head on crash ?
I don’t wish that on anyone. Whatever their mode of transport. What if it was your parents driving the innocent car ?
fenix wrote:
Nice Relive jersey, they need a revenue stream, but one off jerseys don’t last long. Strava tried it with their challenge kits, but people get bored; it is not a long term earner. Their best bet is to get bought be Strava.
Nice Wiggins kit; now where can I buy it without the ‘Wiggins’ on it?
One day one of those close passes is going to result in a head on crash. Lets hope the cyclist passes serenely through and we get to see the video.
— fenix Hang on you’re wishing an innocent party is involved in a head on crash ? I don’t wish that on anyone. Whatever their mode of transport. What if it was your parents driving the innocent car ?— Leviathan
Hey, I didn’t say ‘wish,’ I said ‘one day.’ It is inevitable the way some people drive.