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Slow moving cyclist climbing a long hill causes outrage in Scunthorpe

We’re struggling to see what the story is - but in Scunthorpe a slow-moving cyclist pedalling up a long hill has made the papers after he allegedly held up 100 vehicles.

According to the Scunthorpe Telegraph, the rider “left the Tata Steel works at the Anchor exit and then, perfectly legally, began the long haul up the hill - in the middle of the only available lane,” due to the council closing off the second lane with cones.

Councillor Nigel Sherwood (Brigg & Wolds), said: "It has already been flagged up," he said. "A cyclist in one lane biked all the way up Mortal Ash in the 'live' lane and there was no room for cars - 100 vehicles being behind him.

"It's something we need to look at and try and address."

He did stress that the cyclist had done nothing wrong and wondered whether he might have used the footpath instead.

"We need give and take on both sides. Help each other if you can," he suggested.

“A considerate early morning cyclist - holding up traffic between Forest Pines roundabout and the top of Mortal Ash Hill on his way towards Scunthorpe - pulled over to the right, into the coned off area, to let traffic go by."

Would a tractor or milk float have made the morning papers? You decide.

After an unpromising start, having to be bribed by her parents to learn to ride without stabilisers, Sarah became rather keener on cycling in her university years, and was eventually persuaded to upgrade to proper road cycling by the prospect of a shiny red Italian bike, which she promptly destroyed by trapping a pair of knickers in the rear derailleur. Sarah writes about about cycling every weekend on road.cc.

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gazza_d [468 posts] 2 years ago
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Sounds very much like the local Councillor is condoning illegal riding on the pavement. Wonder if he would be quite so keen if residents complained about pavement cyclists.

If the coned off lane was clear, then I would have ducked into it BUT, there is nothing wrong with the cyclist's actions. He was within the law as people want

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Some Fella [890 posts] 2 years ago
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'Roadworks hold up traffic' is obviously not newsworthy enough?

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saladfunky [11 posts] 2 years ago
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Come on, he was just being awkward. . I'd have let the cars pass out of courtesy!! Treat others how I wish to be treated? I have driven tractors and when a queue builds and if I can i pull over and show respect if possible to the other road users, and I do the same on my bike. It is easier to do on a bike as well. . .

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Angelfishsolo [134 posts] 2 years ago
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I don't know the width of the road but I would have ridden in secondary not primary whilst clinning the hill.

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7thGalaxy [44 posts] 2 years ago
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If you don't know the width of the road.. or the traffic conditions.. how on earth can you even start to make a judgement?

If there's not enough space to let a car past.. then they have to wait. And better to prevent them even trying (by riding primary).

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bikebot [2149 posts] 2 years ago
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Couldn't care less about the story, but the comments section is brilliant.

This one's going in the scrap book!  24

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Why didn't the cyclist just go on the path where it's safer and more considerate. They don't obey road laws anyway. They don't stop at red lights. They don't go single file, within a metre of the curb - as they are supposed to. They usually ride outside of cycle lanes. They are mostly cycling nazis and need running over to make the belligerent bell-ends realise they are a nuisance.

Needless to say "#bloodycyclists"

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bazzargh [152 posts] 2 years ago
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it's 2.7 miles of gentle drag up. So cars would be up there in 10 mins instead of 3 (assuming they could drive at the speed limit, which they couldn't because it's rush hour busy anyway...).

7 minute traffic delay shocker? My heart bleeds for em.

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levermonkey [680 posts] 2 years ago
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Road lanes are not the widest I've ever seen.
Could a cyclist and a car be accommodated side-by-side in the lane without the cyclist being endangered? No.
Has the cyclist adopted the correct position on the road? Yes.

Is there a footpath? Yes but it's the usual rural, tokenistic, piddling, poor surfaced excuse of a footpath.
Would it be legal for the cyclist to use the footpath? No.
Could a cyclist and a pedestrian be accommodated side-by-side on the path?No it is only one person wide.

Has the cyclist done anything wrong? No.
Was he the cause of the slow traffic? No, the road works were.
Would this be news if it was a horse-drawn vehicle, ambulance travelling slowly with a spinal casualty on board or an electric vehicle? Of course it wouldn't.

What can be done? How about something radical like, I don't know, possible a properly designed, installed and maintained cycle track running parallel to the dual-carriageway.  39 Or is that too much logic for a town that doesn't even exist?  19

Note: Scunthorpe is under the steelworks. The town is actually Crosby and Frodingham.

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seven [155 posts] 2 years ago
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saladfunky wrote:

Come on, he was just being awkward. . I'd have let the cars pass out of courtesy!! Treat others how I wish to be treated? I have driven tractors and when a queue builds and if I can i pull over and show respect if possible to the other road users, and I do the same on my bike. It is easier to do on a bike as well. . .

But - as the article asks: would it have made the news if it was a tractor? From the sounds of it a tractor going through that section wouldn't have had anywhere to pull in. Even if it did, but the driver was an asshole and didn't bother pulling in, would that have made the news? I highly doubt it.

Assuming said roadworks aren't a mile long, the fact that "a hundred" cars were involved in the tailback just confirms one thing as far as I'm concerned: there are too many cars on the road.

Typical local rag anti-cyclist dogwhistle "reporting".

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northstar [1108 posts] 2 years ago
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What a load of utter bullshit...........100 motorists held themselves up by their poor choice of transport.

Nothing happened, it's a a complete non story / pathetic whinge.

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Antony Day [1 post] 2 years ago
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Perhaps I'm not looking hard enough but I see no footpath - and the lane could have been blocked with construction vehicles - I smell a wind up.

http://bit.ly/1jrTjmi

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levermonkey [680 posts] 2 years ago
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Footpath is only on one side of the road. If your heading South East the path is on your left. Hope that helps.

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captain_slog [352 posts] 2 years ago
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Trouble is, you pull in ... and then you can never get back out again into the endless stream of traffic.

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parksey [343 posts] 2 years ago
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Usual depressing selection of comments on the newspaper's website there!

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fatbeggaronabike [839 posts] 2 years ago
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Up until now I always used to ponder the question; If Ty-phoo put the T in britain who put the **** in S****horpe ? but now thanks to Nigel F I think I know the answer.

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Sara_H [58 posts] 2 years ago
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The comments section at the end of that story is a very depressing demonstration of the mindset of the majority.

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Trull [81 posts] 2 years ago
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Scunthorpe - notable only for its noteworthy addition to most corporate internet name filters...

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Some Fella [890 posts] 2 years ago
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This poor fella - probably just done a shift at the steelworks (which is probably the shittiest job in Britain since Thatcher closed all the coal mines) and has to lug his poor tired body up this God forsaken bypass every day. Probably on a crappy old hybrid - in full overalls and heavy boots with a rucsac on.
Im sure we have all taken great pleasure in overtaking fellas like this on our carbon machines clad in our Rapha and ever so perfect socks trying to smash a Strava target.
Its people like him, however, that make this country great.

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PJ McNally [591 posts] 2 years ago
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I cycled across a toucan crossing yesterday and was told off by a pedestrian (middle aged man).

I was riding considerately, very slowly, towing my daughter and a load of shopping. But for some reason he was upset.

Strange that the little green bicycle light didn't mean anything to him.

I think often a lot of the problem is that people just have no idea about bikes, or cycling, or (as in this case) the Highway Code.

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don simon [790 posts] 2 years ago
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"It's something we need to look at and try and address."

I commend Councillor Nigel Sherwood for taking the first steps in suggesting that we get 100 cars off the road and onto bikes.

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tom_w [206 posts] 2 years ago
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Highway code rule 169?

"169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass."

Applies to chaingangs and lone cyclists on big hills just as much as it does to tractors, cranes and all the other things we'd expect to pull over every so often if we encounted them causing a massive tailback when driving a car. https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/overtaking-162-to-169.

(sorry, pet peeve)

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Pete B [23 posts] 2 years ago
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These links are to recent stories in the Scunthtope Telegraph on the issue of cyclists using pavements.

http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Pensioner-slams-cyclists-riding-Scu...

This link in particular is what councilor Sherwood said about the issue in February this year, when he called for more action from the police to stop “pavement cycling”

http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/Action-cycle-hits-boy/story-2061771...

I live across the Humber near Hull and not Scunthorpe but it is the same Police Force and in Hull in recent months there have been a few dozen cyclists that weren’t given a FPN for “pavement cycling” but taken to court and fined £200 plus costs of £85.

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bikebot [2149 posts] 2 years ago
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PJ McNally wrote:

I cycled across a toucan crossing yesterday and was told off by a pedestrian (middle aged man).

I was riding considerately, very slowly, towing my daughter and a load of shopping. But for some reason he was upset.

Strange that the little green bicycle light didn't mean anything to him.

I think often a lot of the problem is that people just have no idea about bikes, or cycling, or (as in this case) the Highway Code.

This is as good a place as any to tell this one.

I once pulled up at a set of lights opposite a pub, and a very angry and possibly slightly drunk woman stepped out into the road and gave me a stream of abuse about how the stop line applies to cyclists as well as cars.

If you hadn't guessed, we were both in the ASL box, she was actually standing right on top of the bike symbol. I wished both her and her slightly embarrassed husband well before riding on.

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noether [96 posts] 2 years ago
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tom_w wrote:

Highway code rule 169?

"169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass."

Applies to chaingangs and lone cyclists on big hills just as much as it does to tractors, cranes and all the other things we'd expect to pull over every so often if we encounted them causing a massive tailback when driving a car. https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/overtaking-162-to-169.

(sorry, pet peeve)

The incident illustrates many facets of the biking dilemma, thankfully this time without casualties. Many posts clarify that the law gave this biker very little option but to cycle on the available lane. Other posts explain that the biker acted out of self preservation by cycling the way he did: "getting out of the way" would have expose him to increased risk when trying to "get in" again.

facet one: UK laws simply do not yet cater for the needs of a cycling nation; presumed liability should be introduced with much more severe penalties for cars hitting cyclists
facet two: the local authorities are to blame for not providing temporary bicycle lanes whilst the road works are going on (unthinkable in f.i. Holland)
facet three: a mentality change is necessary to make cycling safer in the UK; the only way to do so is to convert as many drivers to cycling in as short a time as possible; only then will cycling loose its "elitist" and "righteous" stigma and will such an incident be reported in the press as outrageous incompetence by local authorities and traffic police to provide safe bicycling lanes whilst the road works are being carried out.

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gazza_d [468 posts] 2 years ago
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I had a dog walker last week try and block me on the C2C though Washington, even though I am legally entitled to ride on it, and I slow and am courteous to all I pass. He just didn't like people on bikes.

Point is that there are idiots out there who will find any excuse and bend any rule to suit their own hatreds and dislikes, and newspaper site comments sections are like honeytraps for windowlicking neanderthals.

My beef is with the Councillor, who judging from the recent reporting from the one paper, cannot say the same thing twice.

He doesn't want cyclists on the pavement as they are a danger to walkers, and wants them off the road as they hold up cars. Please tell us Cllr Sherwood, just where the feck are we supposed to ride?

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The Acai [12 posts] 2 years ago
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I think the real news is that Scunny has a hill  3

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paulfg42 [393 posts] 2 years ago
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tom_w wrote:

Highway code rule 169?

"169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass."

Applies to chaingangs and lone cyclists on big hills just as much as it does to tractors, cranes and all the other things we'd expect to pull over every so often if we encounted them causing a massive tailback when driving a car. https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/overtaking-162-to-169.

(sorry, pet peeve)

Where would it have been safe to pull in?

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Gus T [294 posts] 2 years ago
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Remember this chip wrapper is owned by the same people who own the The Daily Wail, in order to reduce costs they appear to no longer employ journalists or even people who can cross check back editions for previous articles on the subject, just article writers. Like its nearby sister chip wrapper The Hull Daily Mail, it survives by writing so called articles that sensationalise local events in order to allow deadheads to write ill informed and inaccurate comments in order to generate responses so that they can download adverts to increase their revenues.  37

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Gus T [294 posts] 2 years ago
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Remember this chip wrapper is owned by the same people who own the The Daily Wail, in order to reduce costs they appear to no longer employ journalists or even people who can cross check back editions for previous articles on the subject, just article writers. Like its nearby sister chip wrapper The Hull Daily Mail, it survives by writing so called articles that sensationalise local events in order to allow deadheads to write ill informed and inaccurate comments in order to generate responses so that they can download adverts to increase their revenues.  37

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fatty [77 posts] 2 years ago
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It's a shame all the drivers and passengers sitting in the 100 cars weren't riding bikes too...

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