The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has upheld a complaint against an advertisement from Cycling Scotland that showed a woman cycling without a helmet and riding in primary position in the road, saying it broke rules relating to “social responsibility” and “harm and offence.” Cycling Scotland plans to appeal the decision.
Advertising watchdog ASA also says that cyclists in TV adverts must wear helmets, and also suggests that cyclists should ride no more than 0.5 metres from the kerb – neither of which are required by the law.
The ASA judgement would also appear to cast doubt on the social responsibility of cycle safety campaigns mounted by Transport for London (TfL) and the Department for Transport (DfT) which have also featured helmetless cyclists.
Inevitably, the decision has prompted a wave of critcism of the ASA – @asa_UK – on Twitter and elsewhere, with national cyclists' organisation CTC saying it "is deeply concerned at the effect such a ruling could have on the future popularity of cycling, by increasing public fears that cycling is more 'dangerous' than it really is."
The advert in question, called ‘See Cyclist. Think Horse’ formed part of the Scottish Government’s £425,000 Nice Way Code campaign, heavily criticised by some cycling campaigners when it was launched last year.
The spot aimed to highlight to motorists how much space they should give cyclists when overtaking. Some cyclists shown were wearing helmets, others were bareheaded, including a woman shown at the end of the advert being overtaken by a man in a car.
The ASA says that it received five complaints from people who had “challenged whether the ad was irresponsible and harmful, because it showed a cyclist without a helmet or any other safety attire, who was cycling down the middle of the road rather than one metre from the curb [sic].”
Upholding those complaints, the ASA said:
The ASA acknowledged that the ad was primarily encouraging motorists to take care when driving within the vicinity of cyclists.
We noted that the cyclist in the final scene was not wearing a helmet or any other safety attire, and appeared to be more than 0.5 metres from the parking lane. We also acknowledged that the cyclist was shown in broad daylight on a fairly large lane without any traffic.
We understood that UK law did not require cyclists to wear helmets or cycle at least 0.5 metres from the kerb. However, under the Highway Code it was recommended as good practice for cyclists to wear helmets. Therefore, we considered that the scene featuring the cyclist on a road without wearing a helmet undermined the recommendations set out in the Highway Code. Furthermore, we were concerned that whilst the cyclist was more than 0.5 metres from the kerb, they appeared to be located more in the centre of the lane when the car behind overtook them and the car almost had to enter the right lane of traffic. Therefore, for those reasons we concluded the ad was socially irresponsible and likely to condone or encourage behaviour prejudicial to health and safety.
The ad breached BCAP Code rules 1.2 (Social responsibility), 4.1 and 4.4 (Harm and offence).
It's a muddled judgment that on the one hand cites the Highway Code as authority for requiring the advertiser to always show cyclists wearing a helmet – the Highway Code says cyclists "should wear a cycle helmet," but they are not compulsory – while also talking about a “parking lane” and an apparently arbitrary distance of 0.5 metres from the kerb, neither of which have a foundation in law.
As for the finding that “the car almost had to enter the right lane of traffic,” some might question how closely the ASA studied the Highway Code, which illustrates the distance drivers should give cyclists when overtaking with a picture of a car that is almost entirely over the broken white line in the middle of the road (see Rule 163 here).
In defence of the advert, Cycling Scotland told the ASA that using a mixture of cyclists with and without helmets reflected the fact that they are not a legal requirement and are a matter of individual choice.
It added that the video shoot had been supervised by one of its most experienced instructors, and that the distance the cyclist was from the kerb was because that was the safest position on the road in question to make her visible to other users.
In a statement, Cycling Scotland said: “We are disappointed with the adjudication of the ASA Council and the statement that future ads should always feature cyclists wearing helmets. Our guidance on the issue of helmets and safety attire for adults on bicycles mirrors the legal requirements set out for cyclists in the Highway Code.
There is a broad spectrum of research and opinion across the road safety and health communities when it comes to issues relating to helmet use and the ad reflected this diversity by showing cyclists both with and without helmets.
“The advert was produced in close consultation with an experienced cycle training instructor who carefully considered the use of road positioning and safety attire required for cycling in the daytime. The road positioning in the advert complies with the National Standard for cycle training, which is referenced within the Highway Code. The driver of the car in the advert also follows the Highway Code, which states that vulnerable road users, such as those on a bicycle, should be given at least as much space as you would give a car when overtaking."
ASA adjudications can be appealed by the advertiser, broadcaster or complainant within 21 days to an independent adjudicator, one of the grounds being that “a substantial flaw of process or adjudication is apparent, or show that additional relevant evidence is available.”
Cycling Scotland says it “fully intends to pursue the ASA Council’s Independent Review process open to us.”
The ASA’s decision conflicts with a 2011 ruling on an advert filmed in Copenhagen from car manufacturer Citroën that depicted several cyclists without helmets. It said the advert could not be shown during children’s TV shows, but it was permissible for it to be aired at other times.
A petition had been set up on the website Change.org calling on independent adjudicator Sir Hayden Phillips to reverse the ASA's decision – something he can only do following an appeal by Cycling Scotland.
But with 750-plus names already on the petiition, compared to five people who originally complained about the advert, it could help focus his mind.























75 thoughts on “ASA bans safety advert showing helmetless cyclist for being socially irresponsible +Video”
Perhaps they should have read
Perhaps they should have read Rule 163 of the Highway Code too.
pwmedcraft wrote:Perhaps they
I like this but dread the pros and cons of the helmet debate it will generate.
Sign the petition here
Sign the petition here folks:
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/sir-hayden-phillips-please-reverse-asa-ruling-a13-238570-finding-cyclists-should-be-shown-wearing-helmets-and-placed-in-the-most-suitable-cycling-position-no-more-than-0-5-metres-from-the-parking-lane
Great, so the ASA are cycle
Great, so the ASA are cycle safety experts too now. What a croc of sh*t.
That’s outrageous. The ASA
That’s outrageous. The ASA are clearly unqualified to comment in this regard and should be held to task, unfortunately according to the FAQ section, “Can I object to an ASA adjudication?”, they respond:
“Our rulings put on the public record, in full, the details of how and why we reached our decision. Objecting to an ASA ruling will not change the decision.”
http://www.asa.org.uk/News-resources/FAQs.aspx#Can I object to an ASA adjudication?
Their twitter account can be viewed at https://twitter.com/ASA_UK – I suggest we vocalise objections and point them in no uncertain terms to relevant links that make them realise their folly.
dafyddp
Great – in short the ASA are an unaccountable organisation, funded by an advertising levy. ~X( Self regulation.. đ
Sign the petition folks!
Relevant
Relevant link:
http://www.ctc.org.uk/sites/default/files/file_public/cycle-helmets-evidencebrf.pdf
I defy anyone to read this document in full and still support the compulsion or public promotion of helmet wearing.
kie7077 wrote:Relevant
It’s a rather partial account though, with too many ‘seems’ and ‘suggests’ for my liking. I’d like to read a report which presents the pros and cons of helmets without entering the compulsory use debate. And no, I’m not in favour of compulsion and think the ASA decision is an outrage.
The link to the petition isn’t working for me either (edit: now working)
As I said on the forum, I
As I said on the forum, I honestly cannot believe what I have just read. It is an utterly perverse ruling. After the story a couple of weeks ago with that nobber Clarkson, you’d hope for more common sense from a body like the ASA, yet they make a ruling which does nothing but give more ammunition to ‘kings of the road’ like him.
If the driver of the car is unable to overtake safely, then they shouldn’t be overtaking. THAT’S THE POINT OF THE F*CKING ADVERT!!
Are we going to see them banning car adverts where it’s insinuated how fast the car can be driven? Is that not ‘socially irresponsible’?
I’ve emailed them to complain
I’ve emailed them to complain about this, off to sign the petition too…
a completely ridiculous view based on nothing but, we think it so it must be true regardless of the law, what a croc of …
Please, line these people up
Please, line these people up & shoot them.
They allow people to be pedalled all kind of harmful and useless crap, doing nothing about their position relating to âsocial responsibilityâ and âharm and offence”, and yet they ban such a great advert, and on very spurious grounds.
I’ll say it again, what the hell is wrong with these people?
Has anyone seen that ‘give
Has anyone seen that ‘give your mate an electronic cigarette’ ad?
Maddness! Signed.
Maddness! Signed.
This site is like the Daily
This site is like the Daily Mail of cycling.
I’m sure the guy driving the
I’m sure the guy driving the convertable merc isnt wearing a crash helmet. im outraged!!!!
That Mercedes SL has no
That Mercedes SL has no airbags or seatbelt pre-tensioners and should be consigned to a museum.
Flying Scot wrote:That
and if he clips the curb and rolls the car, no roll cage, won’t anyone think of the children.
“five complaints”
Wow, a
“five complaints”
Wow, a social outrage huh.
You can complain directly to
You can complain directly to the ASA via email at indrev@asbof.co.uk
see website
http://www.asa.org.uk/Consumers/Independent-review-process.aspx
Strictly only advertisers or complainants can raise an objection, but if enough people raise an issue with this ruling then I would expect an Independent review by Sir Hayden Phillips.
Also I expect Sustrans, BC, CTC, et all to be wading in on this one.
This is the most bizarre ruling I have ever seen. From just 5 complaints and their own misguided interpretation of “social responsibility”. Utter madness……
I have complained to the ASA
I have complained to the ASA too!
http://www.asa.org.uk/Consumers/How-to-complain.aspx
idiots =))
This image (nicked from the
This image (nicked from the discussion on Singletrack) adds important context to her road position:
GrahamSt wrote:This image
Yea 0.5 metre from the kerb.You mean where all the potholes gravel glass etc is.Now I see why we need Helmets because we would crash every time out on the bike đ
I’ve signed the petition.
I’ve signed the petition. What a bonkers decision to make, based on only 5 complaints! 8|
Don’t forget that car
Don’t forget that car manufacturers are, by a very large margin, the biggest advertisers; just look at the billboards, watch commercials at the TV etc… So we shouldn’t be surprised by that decision from the “Advertising Standards Authority”.
You can’t complain to the ASA
You can’t complain to the ASA about its decisions…
…but you can complain to the ASA about advertising. That includes social media. For example, an organisation’s Twitter profile.
@ASA_UK’s Twitter profile says “We keep UK ads legal, decent, honest and truthful”. This isn’t an accurate description of the cycle helmets ruling, is it?
So I’ve complained to the ASA about the ASA’s advertising, and asked them (the ASA) to stop the subjects of the complaint (the ASA) from using the phrase “legal, decent, honest and truthful”. Screenshot of complaint here.
Looking forward to their adjudication. đ
Doctor Fegg wrote:So I’ve
That’s flippin’ genius, that is! 8>
The ASA needs controversy to
The ASA needs controversy to justify its existence and pretend that it is not entirely in the pocket of the advertising racketeers. What better way of generating that controversy than by antagonising a type of person that large sections of society already hate, that has no advertising budget and no political lobbying budget, but is known often to be highly vociferous on social media?
‘the car almost had to enter
‘the car almost had to enter the right lane of traffic.’
yep, sounds about right.
In spite of the good
In spite of the good intentions of the original advert, we already knew the NiceWayCode was a pile of steaming horse sh1t.
Seems the ASA agrees, but for all the wrong reasons…
OK. How about objecting to
OK. How about objecting to all/any car adverts that depict a car driving on the road on the grounds that “the ad is socially irresponsible and likely to condone or encourage behaviour prejudicial to health and safety”
RichK wrote:OK. How about
Actually – car manufacturers aren’t allowed to depict their cars going at speed in adverts – this is deemed to be ‘irresponsible’ – so I really don’t think the ASA are particularly anti- cyclist any more they are anti anything .. Just political correctness!
She should really be wearing
She should really be wearing a helmet and her core is only partially engaged.
Signed the petition.
This is
Signed the petition.
This is the most ridiculous ruling I’ve ever heard of. From where I’m sat it looks like a criminal abuse of power.
Simon E wrote:Signed the
Think that’s taking the ‘anti-helmet’ thing a bit far, TBH !.. I understand the need for cyclists to be outraged by certain things – like injustice in our criminal system, when car drivers who kill cyclists fail to be properly punished and lack of safe infrastructure for us cyclists ..
But let’s get some perspective – the advert is trying to promote cycle safety and awareness of cyclists for car drivers and the ruling, albeit a little misguided, is also trying to promote the same thing.
I just wish we – as a group – would start to understand who is on our side and who isn’t. We risk just being seen as an angry militant pressure group by being outraged because some of us disagree with the opinion that helmets contribute to our safety (I actually believe they do but wont go there..!)
700c wrote:Simon E
Think that’s taking the ‘anti-helmet’ thing a bit far, TBH !.. I understand the need for cyclists to be outraged by certain things – like injustice in our criminal system, when car drivers who kill cyclists fail to be properly punished and lack of safe infrastructure for us cyclists ..
But let’s get some perspective – the advert is trying to promote cycle safety and awareness of cyclists for car drivers and the ruling, albeit a little misguided, is also trying to promote the same thing.
I just wish we – as a group – would start to understand who is on our side and who isn’t. We risk just being seen as an angry militant pressure group by being outraged because some of us disagree with the opinion that helmets contribute to our safety (I actually believe they do but wont go there..!)â Simon E
Sorry 700c but that’s bonkers. The ASA is not on your side. It is not promoting cycle safety by this ruling. It is though imposing a view of what a “legitimate” a cyclist looks like. ie Hi viz tabard, helmet, and keeping out the way of motorists. That’s not cycle safety that’s a Jezza Clarkson ish definition of how
speeding motorists can be least impeded by other road users.
1 If you cycle in the gutter you are more vulnerable to being squzzed or struck by vehicles that misjudge the gap.
2 If you wear a helmet you are likely to be passed more closely than if you do not. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/5334208.stm
Just add point 2 to point 1
3 The perception that cycling is dangerous and requires special safety attire is a myth but one that puts many people off cycling. Where people cycle in ordinary clothes (Amsterdam, Copenhagen etc) cycling is more widespread.
4 The more cyclists using the road the more aware motorists become and the overall safety of cyclists is increased.
The ruling from the ASA is not only factually wrong in its citing of the Highway Code and safety advice, it is also counter to everything we know about safety for cyclists.
The ASA is not our friend – It is (in this case) a promoter of danger to cyclists.
oozaveared wrote:700c
Think that’s taking the ‘anti-helmet’ thing a bit far, TBH !.. I understand the need for cyclists to be outraged by certain things – like injustice in our criminal system, when car drivers who kill cyclists fail to be properly punished and lack of safe infrastructure for us cyclists ..
But let’s get some perspective – the advert is trying to promote cycle safety and awareness of cyclists for car drivers and the ruling, albeit a little misguided, is also trying to promote the same thing.
I just wish we – as a group – would start to understand who is on our side and who isn’t. We risk just being seen as an angry militant pressure group by being outraged because some of us disagree with the opinion that helmets contribute to our safety (I actually believe they do but wont go there..!)â 700c
Sorry 700c but that’s bonkers. The ASA is not on your side. It is not promoting cycle safety by this ruling. It is though imposing a view of what a “legitimate” a cyclist looks like. ie Hi viz tabard, helmet, and keeping out the way of motorists. That’s not cycle safety that’s a Jezza Clarkson ish definition of how
speeding motorists can be least impeded by other road users.
1 If you cycle in the gutter you are more vulnerable to being squzzed or struck by vehicles that misjudge the gap.
2 If you wear a helmet you are likely to be passed more closely than if you do not. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/5334208.stm
Just add point 2 to point 1
3 The perception that cycling is dangerous and requires special safety attire is a myth but one that puts many people off cycling. Where people cycle in ordinary clothes (Amsterdam, Copenhagen etc) cycling is more widespread.
4 The more cyclists using the road the more aware motorists become and the overall safety of cyclists is increased.
The ruling from the ASA is not only factually wrong in its citing of the Highway Code and safety advice, it is also counter to everything we know about safety for cyclists.
The ASA is not our friend – It is (in this case) a promoter of danger to cyclists.â Simon E
As I said, I won’t be drawn into a helmet debate (I’m respectful of the full range of views on this!), or a highway code debate – I’m not supporting the ASA’s reasoning which I agree could be flawed. If you read my post you will see I’m not giving views on either matter, I just think those who are anti-helmet are focusing their outrage in the wrong direction!
There was another post on here where someone was incandescent with rage that his/her child was allowed to wear a helmet – or not wear a helmet – when cycling to school – but that the parent had to sign a disclaimer. I mean, seriously?!
what’s ‘criminal’ (to quote the original post), is not how the possibly misinformed opinions of the ASA on safe cycling might offend cyclists’s sensibilities about helmet use, freedom of choice, perception, blah blah – but the number of cyclist accidents and casualties on our roads caused by drivers.
700c wrote:what’s ‘criminal’
In strict terms of legal terminology I guess you could argue my comment – that this ruling is “a criminal abuse of power” – would not stand up in court. But I stand by view, that the judgement is promoting/reinforcing misconceptions and contradicting the Law and the Highway Code, and is therefore seriously harmful to the wellbeing of the population in general. That is a pretty serious mistake to make and, in my layman’s view, is deliberate and therefore would bear comparison with criminal negligence.
The ASA supposedly exists to protect the public, primarily from dishonest or misleading claims when promoting a product or service. On this occasion they appear to have done the opposite.
Bizarre, you can’t show a
Bizarre, you can’t show a cyclist with no helmet in an advert but you can show the helmet that is Jeremy Clarkson smashing a sports car into a supermarket.
‘ the ruling, albeit a little
‘ the ruling, albeit a little misguided, is also trying to promote the same thing.’
in what way?!
I’ve posted before on the
I’ve posted before on the hilarity of people making up their own bespoke Highway Code and others’ idiosyncratic interpretations of what is pretty clear to most people.
And as I have said before (and as an Advanced Motorist) it tends to come from people who have never read the highway code as it applies to cyclists or pedestrians or by dint of passing a pretty basic driving test (designed for most people to pass) think they have greater knowledge than a cyclist.
Just watch the bewilderment of a pontificating motorist when faced with conundrum that the person they are lecturing has been driving longer and is more qualified to drive more vehicles than they are.
Most cyclists have driving licences. Most drivers don’t ride bikes. Remember you are the most expreienced road user in any dispute.
Actually the ASA is not a
Actually the ASA is not a government body it is a self funded industry body and has no legal standing whatsoever. All they give is advice.
Complaining to the ASA about
Complaining to the ASA about the ASA – chapeau, sir. Top work indeed. đ
Lord Chris Smith, the CEO of
Lord Chris Smith, the CEO of the ASA is also a Sustrans patron.
Marvellous work there.
The Road Danger Reduction
The Road Danger Reduction Forum has sent this out. Note the fourth point – most of the rest has been mentioned by other commenters:
Dear friend/colleague,
You have probably seen how a piece of idiocy by the ASA has caused justified anger among cycling groups and others concerned with a civilised approach to danger on the road.
If not, you can read about it here:
http://beyondthekerb.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/the-killing-of-the-horse/comment-page-1/#comment-691
here:http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/01/29/the-advertising-standards-authority-not-fit-for-purpose/
and the CTC’s comments here: https://www.ctc.org.uk/news/advertising-watchdog%E2%80%99s-helmet-ruling-threatens-promotion-of-normal-cycling
The RDRF objects to the ASA’s decision on the basis that:
1. It does not understand that the positioning of the cyclist is absolutely correct in terms of the advice given by Bikeability (National Standards) cycle training.
2. Although the Highway Code at present recommends helmet wearing , there is a lack of evidence that this can reduce cyclist casualty (even cyclist head injury) rates.
3. If the ASA is going to oppose representation of anybody who is not apparently obeying all the recommendations of the Highway Code, it would have to ban advertisements featuring such behaviours as pedestrians walking about at night without hi-viz clothing.
4. Of course, the ASA could take note of the fact that typical driving tends to involve not just infringing Highway Code recommendations but the law, for example on breaking speed limits. The fact that this behaviour may not be explicit or even visible (as with driving when fatigued) does not excuse condoning such behaviour.
Taking this seriously would involve not just restricting a large proportion of all car advertisements, but representations of typical motor traffic in any advertising. Take a look at (and contribute to) the CTC’s site here: https://www.ctc.org.uk/blog/chris-peck/which-car-ads-show-breaches-of-highway-code.
We are not suggesting that most advertisements featuring examples of typical driver behaviour which may, or are likely, to be infringing the rules and recommendations of the Highway Code should be banned – too many would have to be restricted. But that would be more fruitful than focussing on supposedly rule or recommendation breaking behaviour by those much less likely to endanger others â even if the recommendation was based on sound evidence, which helmet wearing is not.
Organisations such as the CTC are writing to the ASA, you may wish to sign this petition on Change.org http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/sir-hayden-phillips-please-reverse-asa-ruling-a13-238570-finding-cyclists-should-be-shown-wearing-helmets-and-placed-in-the-most-suitable-cycling-position-no-more-than-0-5-metres-from-the-parking-lane as well as contacting the ASA directly trough their complaints arbiter Sir Hayden Phillips whose receiving e-mail is indrev@asbof.co.uk .
Dr Robert Davis, Chair, Road Danger Reduction Forum
http://www.rdrf.org.uk
Interestingly (or maybe not)
Interestingly (or maybe not) the ASA currently have ÂŁ26k job vacancy for a Complaints Executive. In the job description it says
” Assess complaints, undertake internet, telephone and other relevant research before making a decision under minimal supervision”
So you have to wonder how much thought and expertise did go into this ASA ruling we’re all getting worked up about.
You can see the vacancy here: http://www.asa.org.uk/About-ASA/Careers.aspx
Had the ASA have looked
Had the ASA have looked outside the window of their High Holborn offices two years ago, they would have seen a hoard of cyclists wearing a lot less than just helmets:
http://www.urban75.org/london/london-naked-bike-ride-2011-2.html
Signed the petition. From
Signed the petition. From some of the comments in my thread on bikeradar, you’d think one or two of the five complainers were posting there…
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=12956905
FML
FML
I signed too, says 721 more
I signed too, says 721 more needed. C’mon guys!
oh my, bet rapha are shitting
oh my, bet rapha are shitting it now, going to have get all their beardy models to wear helmets in the pics from now on
“the Highway Code, which
“the Highway Code, which states that vulnerable road users, such as those on a bicycle, should be given at least as much space as you would give a car when overtaking.”
That wording sucks bad and needs updating, as do the pathetically worded careless and dangerous driving laws.
kie7077 wrote:”the Highway
Could solve the issue by saying that 1 metre’s space should be given. I’ve seen, and experienced, plenty of drivers pass me while driving giving very little room indeed!
And, no, I don’t drive like my grandmother…
I have just written (well
I have just written (well emailed) the ASA to strongly complain about this adjudication.
I have also emailed Lord Chris Smith who is chairman of the ASA and also a patron of Sustrans.
Individually my emails will probably head straight in the Trash folder, even before they have had the courtesy to read them. But hopefully if enough people do the same, and generally kick up a stink about this, then something will get done.
If they are a government
If they are a government body, they’re subject to Freedon of Information Requests:
https://www.gov.uk/make-a-freedom-of-information-request/the-freedom-of-information-act
Helmet, yes… it would just
Helmet, yes… it would just be better to set a good example
(For those that argue different on the helmet debate…facts are facts, you are more protected, less likely to squash your tiny brain, and yes cars may pass closer but come on….if you don’t believe this, run head first into a wall and tell me if your skull gets damaged or not…its kind of stating the bleeding obvious people, protect your head!!)
50cm from the kerb, erm, I agree with every other right minded cyclist on this issue…its rubbish.
agentvialli wrote:Helmet,
I’m pretty sure that the jury is still out on whether wearing a helmet is a ‘good’ thing and whether it sets the correct example/makes cycling suitably accesable.
And, just to point out the obvious, cycling and running head first into walls are two very different activities. Its reasonable that any protective equipment you choose to use would be quite different. It’s no wonder that you don’t see a lot of bouyancy aids in the base jumping scene.
agentvialli wrote:Helmet,
Facts are facts, but not all facts are relevant facts. Running head on into a wall damages your skull – that’s a fact. It doesn’t follow from that that cyclists, runners, people walking down stairs or getting out of the bath, drivers, children running around a playground (the one time I suffered concussion) or anyone else should therefore wear a helmet. You need logic to join up your facts into an argument, you see?
But I agree, wall-runners probably should wear helmets. Indeed, I question the benefits of wall-head-interfacing as a legitmate sporting activity. There’s a reason why its not an Olympic event, I reckon.
(Though its a good metaphor for engaging in the helmet-argument. About as useful as banging your head against a wall).
Sweet motor in the ad,
Sweet motor in the ad, though.
Plus oh yeah, I got knocked
Plus oh yeah, I got knocked off my bike TODAY by a car turning left (not indicating or paying attention) leaving my and bike bike battered and bruised. Jeans and (hi-viz) jacket all ripped up, but narey a scratch on me placcy lid, and never mind that I was riding easily within 0.5m of the kerb.
đ
When it comes to driver collisions, helmet is generally neither her nor there and it is DEFINITELY safer to keep at least a metre away from the kerb. Not just for sharps/potholes, but for visibility.
Cycled along that road this
Cycled along that road this morning!
http://goo.gl/maps/uahkd
Surely the way to deal with
Surely the way to deal with this is to complain to ASA every time you see a car advert with the driver not wearing a crash helmet and neck brace, after all the majority of people involved in car accidents that end in hospital have head injuries so it’s socially irresponsible for car manufacturers not to highlight this. Failure by ASA to agree with this must imply discrimination against cyclists & revoke this ruling. X(
Gus T wrote:Surely the way to
Legitimatly, we could complain about every car add full stop. Encouraging car use does nothing to strengthen our communities, cars pose a significant risk to other road users and contibute to multiple health problems and general polution. Buying and driving a car is pretty ‘socially irrisponsible’ in this context, certainly more so than not wearing a hat.
I’ve just tried to sign the
I’ve just tried to sign the petition and the link’s broken or it has been removed. Anyone have any info on it? đ
I’ve just tried to sign the
I’ve just tried to sign the petition and the link’s broken or it has been removed. Anyone have any info on it? đ
Just submitted this complaint
Just submitted this complaint to ASA “Manufacturers are not complying with their social responsibilities by show people driving wearing helmets and neck braces as the majority of people who receive hospital treatment following a motor vehicle accident receive treatment for head injuries. This complaint is a direct comparison with your decision to ban the Cycling Scotland advert showing a woman riding without a helmet, your decision being made in direct contravention of current laws and without any evidence to back your decision other than your own prejudices
Motor manufacturers also fail to show the proven effects of exhaust gases in built up area’s which cause asthma and breathing difficulties in young children, another failure of the motor manufacturers to comply with their social responsibilities.” Will anyone else join in to ensure that we can highlight ASA’s prejudicial and anti cycling decision
God i am bored, just
God i am bored, just submitted a complaint against Peugeot for failing to address the environmental impact of driving in an urban area in a car advert.
Some points:
1. The ASA are
Some points:
1. The ASA are not a Government body (they are set up and paid for by the advertising industry), and so are not subject to Freedom of Information legislation.
2. So far some 3,000 people have signed the petition on http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/sir-hayden-phillips-please-reverse-asa-ruling-a13-238570-finding-cyclists-should-be-shown-wearing-helmets-and-placed-in-the-most-suitable-cycling-position-no-more-than-0-5-metres-from-the-parking-lane
3. Before complaining to the ASA you should know what the basis for complaint is, such as : 4.1 and 4.4 of the UK Code of Broadcast Advertising (BCAP Code, http://www.cap.org.uk/Advertising-Codes/Broadcast-HTML.aspx ), namely that âAdvertisements must contain nothing that could cause physical, mental, moral or social harm to persons under the age of 18â (rule 4.1) and âAdvertisements must not include material that is likely to condone or encourage behaviour that prejudices health or safetyâ (rule 4.4). I think that could cover a hell of a lot of advertisements with cars/motoring in them.
4. I suggest you are careful and specific, not getting into car driver helmets and neck braces (which are not recommended in the HC), but look at things like whether it is LIKELY that drivers of cars in the ad are speeding – because about 40% do when they can in free-flowing conditions. That kind of thing.
5. You can also get into stuff like not showing pedestrians at night not wearing hi-viz (which is – wrongly in my view – recommended in the HC).
6. remember that a defence of car adverts (speeding into the sunset on deserted roads etc.) is that they are in obviously unrealistic situations, which the Cycling Scotland stuff is not.
D4.1 and 4.4 of the UK Code of Broadcast Advertising (BCAP Code, http://www.cap.org.uk/Advertising-Codes/Broadcast-HTML.aspx ), namely that âAdvertisements must contain nothing that could cause physical, mental, moral or social harm to persons under the age of 18â (rule 4.1) and âAdvertisements must not include material that is likely to condone or encourage behaviour that prejudices health or safetyâ (rule 4.4). I think that could cover a hell of a lot of advertisements with cars/motoring in them.r. Robert Davis, Chair Road Danger Reduction Forum http://www.rdrf.org.uk
Whilst I usually harp on
Whilst I usually harp on about helmets (because let’s face it they aren’t as inconvenient as a fractured skull) it’s the height of pettiness to ban this advert.
Furthermore it’s quite clear from the advert that there’s a lot of damaged road on the left hand side of the lane – anyone who has actually ridden a bike (apparently no-one from the ASA) would know to avoid this.
Have signed the petition too.
Social responsibility?! I’ve
Social responsibility?! I’ve complained twice now to the ASA about adverts for cars banging on about ‘road tax’ and they come back stating that everyone knows road tax is actually Vehicle Excise Duty therefore road tax is not misleading and the complaint is rejected.
We all know the road tax myth actively fuels the cretinous and ignorant out there, including certain councillors and MP’s who should know better, so there is very obvious social responsibility aspects that should be recognised…but they ignore it.
Now they play double standards and uphold a complaint when the subject is doing nothing illegal or unlawful? Quite right the ASA are put under fire on this, I’d suggest we all complain referencing the road tax crap and ask why social responsibility was not a factor there.
Just an addition to the
Just an addition to the helmet argument – 1996 and I get hit head on by a car on the wrong side of the road. I suffer respiratory arrest and paramedics saved my life despite being taken to trauma unit with full blues & two’s and a Glasgow Coma Score of 3/15. In laymans terms that’s as low as it gets.
I was left with a brain injury and spent 18 months rehabilitating as an outpatient. Helmet on? Yep, not a scratch on it.
The brain injury was caused due to rapid acceleration & deceleration against my skull, and the low oxygen sats when the arrest quickly followed was suspected of causing a hypoxic injury.
So, helmets have their place but as we all know they are a limited tool useful in limited situations. The driver? No charges as there were no independent witnesses.
Thanks go to the police who weren’t that interested, the CPS for dumbing the whole incident down as a simple whoopsy, the lawmakers who all need running down to give them an insight into the murder they continually defend and the insurers who keep these people driving by charging responsible motorists more money to subsidise the moronic.
We don’t even need to talk
We don’t even need to talk about a hypothetical risk of of riding half a meter from the kerb. Look at the very last few frames of the advert, the whole road surface to the side is broken up with a hole big enough to swallow the bike.
Their ruling literally proposes that she rides into a great big pothole for her own safety (but that’s OK, she’ll have a hat on if she comes off).
Whatever process the ASA are supposed to have, something has gone seriously wrong and they’ve made a judgement which will endanger the public. I hope they have someone in charge who will recognise this quickly, they should even need to wait for an appeal to get their house in order.
bikebot wrote:We don’t even
Really? Are you completely incapable of spotting obstructions and avoiding them as and when they appear? Why not cycle on the opposite side of the road just in case you come across road works blocking the entire lane? Most potholes I have spotted do oddly seem to be positioned a few feet from the kerb, or even in the middle of the lane. You need to cycle around obstructions when they appear, rather than ‘owning the road’ just in case. It’s really not that hard and would prevent a lot of road rage. Oh, and don’t get me started about cycling two-abreast… đ
Omg helmets again!!
Omg helmets again!! (|:
Withdrawn!
Withdrawn! =D>
http://www.asa.org.uk/News-re
http://www.asa.org.uk/News-resources/Media-Centre/2014/Cycling-Scotland-Ruling.aspx