Oxford hit and run driver "almost ran over" cyclist's head as she fled scene

jigr69 wrote:

No MOT, Tax or insurance would explain why she would want to flee the scene before Police arrived.

The number of untaxed cars and therefore, uninsured cars on the roads these days are higher than they were when tax discs were the norm. Too few Police cars fitted with ANPR cameras to make any difference, I'm sure that I read the DVLA only had a couple of vans themselves. I did spot one the other day just off M1J16 and that was a very old transit, I mean over ten years old transit!

The crews of patrol cars with ANPR, have been slashed in number by government cuts.  Some counties have a single patrol car to police highways. 

dassie wrote:

jigr69 wrote:

No MOT, Tax or insurance would explain why she would want to flee the scene before Police arrived.

The number of untaxed cars and therefore, uninsured cars on the roads these days are higher than they were when tax discs were the norm. Too few Police cars fitted with ANPR cameras to make any difference, I'm sure that I read the DVLA only had a couple of vans themselves. I did spot one the other day just off M1J16 and that was a very old transit, I mean over ten years old transit!

The crews of patrol cars with ANPR, have been slashed in number by government cuts.  Some counties have a single patrol car to police highways. 

Yet, it's pretty easy to make even  a homebrew ANPR: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/anpr-car-spy-raspberry-pi/

hawkinspeter wrote:

dassie wrote:

jigr69 wrote:

No MOT, Tax or insurance would explain why she would want to flee the scene before Police arrived.

The number of untaxed cars and therefore, uninsured cars on the roads these days are higher than they were when tax discs were the norm. Too few Police cars fitted with ANPR cameras to make any difference, I'm sure that I read the DVLA only had a couple of vans themselves. I did spot one the other day just off M1J16 and that was a very old transit, I mean over ten years old transit!

The crews of patrol cars with ANPR, have been slashed in number by government cuts.  Some counties have a single patrol car to police highways. 

Yet, it's pretty easy to make even  a homebrew ANPR: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/anpr-car-spy-raspberry-pi/

but my understanding of that is they dont use ANPR to pull cars unless they are specifically looking for that vehicle, because of the time it takes them away from doing the other things they need to do, and its there where lack of traffic cops is the problem not that they dont have ANPR as such available.

most towns & cities & major roads actually have fixed APNR cameras anyway so you dont need fleets of vehicles going round checking,and arguably theres plenty of evidence that gets collected its just the police/dvla dont seem to do that much with it or it falls down the "but I moved so you sent the notice to the wrong address" hole which seems to be the most common excuse you see in court cases when drivers finally get stopped

Awavey wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

dassie wrote:

jigr69 wrote:

No MOT, Tax or insurance would explain why she would want to flee the scene before Police arrived.

The number of untaxed cars and therefore, uninsured cars on the roads these days are higher than they were when tax discs were the norm. Too few Police cars fitted with ANPR cameras to make any difference, I'm sure that I read the DVLA only had a couple of vans themselves. I did spot one the other day just off M1J16 and that was a very old transit, I mean over ten years old transit!

The crews of patrol cars with ANPR, have been slashed in number by government cuts.  Some counties have a single patrol car to police highways. 

Yet, it's pretty easy to make even  a homebrew ANPR: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/anpr-car-spy-raspberry-pi/

but my understanding of that is they dont use ANPR to pull cars unless they are specifically looking for that vehicle, because of the time it takes them away from doing the other things they need to do, and its there where lack of traffic cops is the problem not that they dont have ANPR as such available.

most towns & cities & major roads actually have fixed APNR cameras anyway so you dont need fleets of vehicles going round checking,and arguably theres plenty of evidence that gets collected its just the police/dvla dont seem to do that much with it or it falls down the "but I moved so you sent the notice to the wrong address" hole which seems to be the most common excuse you see in court cases when drivers finally get stopped

To my naive thinking, it would be trivially easy to give the job to private companies and fund them from fines/confiscated vehicles etc.

When a license has the wrong address on it, is it immediately voided and if not, why not?

hawkinspeter wrote:

Awavey wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

dassie wrote:

jigr69 wrote:

No MOT, Tax or insurance would explain why she would want to flee the scene before Police arrived.

The number of untaxed cars and therefore, uninsured cars on the roads these days are higher than they were when tax discs were the norm. Too few Police cars fitted with ANPR cameras to make any difference, I'm sure that I read the DVLA only had a couple of vans themselves. I did spot one the other day just off M1J16 and that was a very old transit, I mean over ten years old transit!

The crews of patrol cars with ANPR, have been slashed in number by government cuts.  Some counties have a single patrol car to police highways. 

Yet, it's pretty easy to make even  a homebrew ANPR: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/anpr-car-spy-raspberry-pi/

but my understanding of that is they dont use ANPR to pull cars unless they are specifically looking for that vehicle, because of the time it takes them away from doing the other things they need to do, and its there where lack of traffic cops is the problem not that they dont have ANPR as such available.

most towns & cities & major roads actually have fixed APNR cameras anyway so you dont need fleets of vehicles going round checking,and arguably theres plenty of evidence that gets collected its just the police/dvla dont seem to do that much with it or it falls down the "but I moved so you sent the notice to the wrong address" hole which seems to be the most common excuse you see in court cases when drivers finally get stopped

To my naive thinking, it would be trivially easy to give the job to private companies and fund them from fines/confiscated vehicles etc.

When a license has the wrong address on it, is it immediately voided and if not, why not?

They do this around my area, a toyota Aygo with a few cameras on top drives around booking people for parking in stupid places and occasionally stops and clamps a car, sticking a massive red sign on the window stating that the vehicle has been immobilised for the non payment of vehicle excise duty.

hawkinspeter wrote:

Awavey wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

dassie wrote:

jigr69 wrote:

No MOT, Tax or insurance would explain why she would want to flee the scene before Police arrived.

The number of untaxed cars and therefore, uninsured cars on the roads these days are higher than they were when tax discs were the norm. Too few Police cars fitted with ANPR cameras to make any difference, I'm sure that I read the DVLA only had a couple of vans themselves. I did spot one the other day just off M1J16 and that was a very old transit, I mean over ten years old transit!

The crews of patrol cars with ANPR, have been slashed in number by government cuts.  Some counties have a single patrol car to police highways. 

Yet, it's pretty easy to make even  a homebrew ANPR: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/anpr-car-spy-raspberry-pi/

but my understanding of that is they dont use ANPR to pull cars unless they are specifically looking for that vehicle, because of the time it takes them away from doing the other things they need to do, and its there where lack of traffic cops is the problem not that they dont have ANPR as such available.

most towns & cities & major roads actually have fixed APNR cameras anyway so you dont need fleets of vehicles going round checking,and arguably theres plenty of evidence that gets collected its just the police/dvla dont seem to do that much with it or it falls down the "but I moved so you sent the notice to the wrong address" hole which seems to be the most common excuse you see in court cases when drivers finally get stopped

To my naive thinking, it would be trivially easy to give the job to private companies and fund them from fines/confiscated vehicles etc.

When a license has the wrong address on it, is it immediately voided and if not, why not?

That would be a war on motorists, and as we know, our current crop of utterly craven politicians are so scared that they would sell their grandmothers rather than protect the innocent.

ktache wrote:

But, but, but.. Robert Winston told us that as soon as you have registration and insurance everyone becomes completely safe and law abiding.

Would that be the Robert Winston who qualifies for a free bus pass but refuses to use the public transport funded for his benefit by British taxpayers, preferring instead to clog up the already congested roads of our capital city whilst poisoning the air with the emissions from his totally uneccessary private motor car and complaining that cyclists are somehow causing the problem?

lllnorrislll wrote:

Hmm, currently showing as no tax , mot or insurance, of course could have lapsed since.
Or just a shit driver / human being, with a complete disregard for the law or society.

Somehow, I don't think they have regained possession of the vehicle , so a bit moot.

hirsute wrote:

lllnorrislll wrote:

Hmm, currently showing as no tax , mot or insurance, of course could have lapsed since.
Or just a shit driver / human being, with a complete disregard for the law or society.

Somehow, I don't think they have regained possession of the vehicle ...

Quite - hence my caveat, as currently showing. But if as reported, this happened on the Saturday ( guessing the 10th), then it was neither taxed or insured at the time.