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Shimano CM-2000 camera - 2.jpgShimano launches new CM-2000 sports camera
Shimano is launching a new CM-2000 sports camera with ANT+ integration and data-linked recording that’s designed to make sure you shoot only the most interesting action.
Shimano already has a sports camera on the market but what's different here is that you can set the new CM-2000 to start and stop recording based on sensor values – such as when your speed hits 30mph or when your power hits a certain wattage. The idea is that you get highlight footage rather than simply your entire ride. This will also save memory space and battery life, of course.
It can work with ANT+ cycling computers and sensors such as heart rate monitors, plus info from a Shimano Di2 electronic shift system, and it records data.
The camera, which you can mount on your handlebar, saddle rails or bike helmet, is waterproof and dustproof and has a lens protector with a water repellent finish, the idea being that rain and spray will flow off rather than sitting on the lens and affecting the quality of your footage. It also has a blur-correction function that’s going to come in particularly handy if you use it off-road.
CM-2000 can also use the GPS data of your smartphone, communicating with it via Bluetooth. You can preset it to record a segment of your ride from one position to another.
The CM-2000 can be controlled via a new iOS and Android Shimano Sport Camera smartphone app that allows you to view what’s being recorded in real time, so you can check that the footage is exactly what you want. It allows you to set the image quality, angle of view (90° up to 130°), white balance and exposure.
Shimano’s new Camera Editor app for both Windows and Mac, which should be available by the end of January, allows you to overlay ANT+ data on video – so you can have your speed, cadence, power, heart rate and the gear combination you’re using (taken from a Di2 system) on the screen alongside the action.
The price. Sorry, we've asked but we don't have that info yet.
Mat has been in cycling media since 1996, on titles including BikeRadar, Total Bike, Total Mountain Bike, What Mountain Bike and Mountain Biking UK, and he has been editor of 220 Triathlon and Cycling Plus. Mat has been road.cc technical editor for over a decade, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. Mat is a Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer. Now over 50, he's riding road and gravel bikes most days for fun and fitness rather than training for competitions.
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Most of us ride more than one hour so this camera is not even worth looking at due to battery restrictions.
Ive been looking for two days now for a safety camera to use for evidence in case i need it and have settled on two that i am looking at. My previous roadhawk bullet died so need a replacement now.
The innovv 3d K3 or the K6 for the 60 fps. K6 is the bike version but is limited to 30 fps, not ideal and the K3 which is the motorcycle version that can go to 60 fps.
Both versions have a forward and rear facing cameras which is a real plus as is the ability to power them in the form of powerbanks, as opposed to bespoke batteries that you buy from them. Use a 20k ah anker powerbank and record for 40 hours if you want. Not many camera's go near that capability at all. 249 or 299 pounds.
The other one was a chili-technology bullet. 5.5 hours recording time. 60 fps on the more expensive model. User replaceable batteries that are very reasonably priced at 6 pounds a pop.
Two camera's or one? I could get two chili's for the cost of the innovv and wont have to deal with cables but i will have to carry batteries.
Garmins Virb was looking ok. But they are no longer being made so finding a new one and then additional batteries could be a headachee. Shame really as that seems to be the only garmin product worth using. They GPS are no good.
Go pro is out of the quesion. Too expensive and too many bugs with units shutting down and over heating. Not reliable and not really made for prolonged use of up 60 hours.
Insta 360. 500+ pounds. Are they mad? Not gonna happen no matter how good it is. There are cheaper alternatives that will do the same job and not break the bank.
But this shimano is not really fit for prupose. I got for rides from 3-6 hours and need constant coverage. Not so i can post rides but so i can contradict conflicting testamony in case i need to go to court. Since ive been hit more than a few times in my life with several people attempting to lie, i need evidence now. I am not going to court again without footage. Now that cams are cheap enough everybody should have one.
Car drivers are for the most part totally aggressive and rude people in general.
I was thinking about getting one at $70USD, but after seeing the discussion, I realized that I really don't want to mess with video editing. I race a lot, but I'm not really sure there is much that I really want to revisit by spending large amounts of time eiditing and uploading videos.
Link to the video - they've nicely given timings of the various bits underneath so you can jump to bit you need.
http://www.shimano-sportcamera.com/en/howtouse.html
My obsevations:
1. No loop recording - when the card is full it stops.
2. Image quality is very good. Image stabilisation works well.
3. Battery life is poor.
4. A handlebar mount similar to that linked to by alansmurphy really should have been included.
5. Someone mentioned not all options appeared using the physical buttons - some resolutions are not available with image stabilisation on, the buttons don't let you change frame rate, and only one Photo mode is available. To access the full range you need to set it to "C" mode and use the phone app over the camera's wifi.
6. Could do with slightly easier to press buttons - especially with cold fingers.
7. The "How to Use " video on the website is much better than the minimal instructions in the paper/PDF manual.
8. The video editing software leaves a lot to be desired. Took a while to force an install and I found the interface badly designed. My home PC is a bit long in the tooth and a 'mini-laptop', so YMMV.
Personally, I've downloaded the Garmin VIRB editor that lets you pull in videos from any source (i.e. the SM-2000) and combine with .FIT/.GPX data from Garmin devices (my Edge 250 captures data from other ANT+ so the .CSV data files created by the SM-2000 are redundant.
Overall - for the price paid a good little device (but more battery please!) however I would be very miffed at RRP.
I'm not hugely worried about the loop for a couple of reasons - with the connection to a phone etc. you can quite easily link up and delete unrequired files. Also, I see this as more leisure (probably) than commute so I don't want it over-recording.
Agree with the quality - I haven't played with the frames per second etc. yet but seemed good out of the box.
Agree with the buttons, the power and record are pretty good (though less pressable than they look), the other 2 buttons are a pain!
Hadn't seen the video, cheers will give it a go!
I like the Virb software too, very easy to shorten videos etc. and the data overlay makes things much more interesting.
The price too - whether you paid the £58 or £75 i think it's a very good deal for a package very comparable to Go Pros - at £229 though like yourself, I'd think it was a little 'unfinished'...
Yep, stupidly it is missing one bit of kit:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aluminium-Bicycle-Standard-Handlebar-Accessory/dp/B00PW9X8EO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1515423058&sr=8-3&keywords=go+pro+bar+mount
The rectangular slider bit will fix into this. Basically, any go pro bar mount will pretty much fit as it has the 2 pronged bit that fits in their 3 pronged bit (engineer I am not). I found this one the best out of those I've tried, you can get some with an arm but i found with other cameras that they'd shake more or the weight of the camera made it hard to attach everything tight enough.
Hmmm was trying with both, even followed the instructions, held a button for 2 seconds, then a further press, waited for a C on the screen etc.
I had had a couple of gins and too much Christmas for any normal human!
For me, that's why the GPX data is useful though, mine will be on my bike for a Sunday trundle and then kick in when i go up the Cat and Fiddle or Mow Cop or if we decide there's a Strava segment to race down. Does anyone really want to watch a YouTube 'clip' of you on your bike for 3 hours.
I say this, I haven't managed to connect mine to my phone yet...
Easy, can be done with Bluetooth or WiFi, and I am useless with technology.
Mini-review:
This isn't for most riders. To get the most out of it you need to be running Di2 or ANT+ sensors and doing a planned route.
Why?
Because the battery life sucks. JUST 1hr at Full HD due to the pitiful 700mAh battery.
Its a shame because otherwise its a brilliant gadget. Clearly it has been designed for the pro peloton for use on stage and one-day races where the route is known and there's a ton of sensor data available to trigger recording. It also probably explains why most of the footage we've seen from the teams using it is from the last kms of a race, or from known attack points.
Sadly it isn't even going to cut it for sportive use. Would be OK for crit racing or CX but that's about it. Completely useless as a commuter cam because you'll be charging it twice a day and potentially even then not covering your whole commute.
On the plus side the data overlay and video quality is great and it uses GoPro mounts so you can stick it pretty much anywhere, and you may even have a compatible mount already. The battery is replaceable but I've not been able to find spares or third-party ones. You can even charge from a powerbank whilst filming, but at the expense of waterproofing so definitely not recommended.
Received mine yesterday.
https://youtu.be/Wbbb2vxrBPg?t=2m14s
From the video, it appears to be missing the single shot M,S & b settings & I'm damned if I can work out how to change the time for the repeated shot from its 10 second default.
The 'manual' is next to useless.
Has anybody got one? If so let me know if I'm doing something wrong or I'll have to return it.
Just got mine trying to work out how do I mount it to the handelbars the description said it came with a mount but other than a small sticker I can't see anything or instructions that would hold it well in place.
That's a hell of a memory card!
Kiwi, rightly or wrongly gopro have the market nailed down. EE were selling an action camera (similar in every way) to a gopro at £10 a month with a SIM. Released about 30 months ago. Stock was selling at £28 on black Friday!
I've ordered one too (58 quid plus 5% through TopCashBack). Mind you, just seen the prices of 128mb sdhc class10 micro sd cards on Amazon. Nothing cheaper than £42...rats.
Now looking for cheap rearward mounts for the CM-1000 this new one will replace.
This seems just way to good to be true, but I've ordered one. How can this make financial sense? Has PBK purchased a closeout /bankruptcy stock? Is Shimano dumping and exiting the camera market?
Now wondering If I should go order 10 more...
£65 now at PBK, bastards!
Thanks for the tip-off, its actually only £58 (versus RRP £240) if you use coupon code BRAND10 (10% off known brands). Worth a punt at that price, thats my stocking filler to me sorted
cm2000 is now 59 fagioli
Seems I'm a tosser. Just ordered one at 75 notes. Bargain?
"but would still struggle to cover the scenic version of my commute"
Go faster or live somewhere uglier
I'm with MamilMan on this. I had a Fly6, which worked well, until the battery lost the ability to hold a charge. That took about 15 months' commuting use, and now it's useless. I had hopes for the the Fly12, but that's got 'features', otherwise known as pointless rubbish and a price tag to match.
All I want is a simple camera, with a decent light (because real estate on my bars and seatpost is limited). A battery that works, a memory card, a light and a camera. How hard is that?
The only time I am remotely interested in the footage is if there is an 'event'. I don't want bluetooth, alarms, GPS - none of that. Just basic moving pictures.
Did you take this up with the Fly12 people ? I like the look of their cameras but that would be a problem. They should offer a refurb service at least.
Most cameras produce best results mounted on a helmet, owing to minimised vibration - but who wants to attach a bulky camera in this way... It is about time manufacturers woke up to this. I'm still using a handlebar mounted Garmin VIRB, where vibration effects are acceptable. Having a changeable battery is very useful for me, and also means one is not subject to an ever diminishing battery life.
Given that we've veered off topic, I'll run with it – does anyone make a camera with huge battery life? The most I've seen is two hours, which is certainly better than the one hour that most manage, but would still struggle to cover the scenic version of my commute...
Have a look at the Drift Stealth 2.
I got one as a christmas present and it is not bad at all.
The battery live is 3 hours and the max resolution is 1080p 30fps. Which is plenty good enough for me.
I bought a "K-Edge Go Big Pro Universal Handlebar Cycle Mount" for it which makes it sit quite neatly in front of the handlebar. I claim this makes it the most aero of the lot
There is an app so you can control and watch stuff on your phone and you can get some more gizmos for it.
Might not reach the same picture or sound quality (sound admittedly not the best) as a GoPro but for me it's perfectly fine.
Same as you - been holding off buying a camera until they made one with decent battery life.
Just bought a Veho Muvi K2 NPNG from Argos' eBay outlet - claims 4 hours battery life and does 1080 at 60fps. There is a Pro version that does 4K, but at the expense of battery life and a Sport version which is 1080 but neither come with the pile of mounts/waterproof case that the NPNG comes with.
I already had a K-Edge handlebar mount for the road bike.
Not had a chance to test it yet...
So basically, it's got loads of features for tossers while the millions of commuters who just want basic functions, high quality image with huge battery life once again go wanting.
Looks like its going to attach to a helmet with 30 pence worth of velcro, and quite why it has a piece of foam attached to it...?
I'm out.
The foam is a mic muff...cut down wind noise
I hope they don't go down the road GoPRO have with their capture app! You need to log into the app with internet access, or it doesn't allow you to use it to control your camera. A big Foot in mouth moment for GoPRO, and one which has pissed off many users. I think there are many GoPRO users out there looking for an effective replacement
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