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Driver cuts corner and hits cyclist waiting at junction
Driver cuts corner and hits cyclist waiting at junction (Michael Rammell) (Image Credit: Michael Rammell)

“How is this even a question?” Cyclists slam “who’s in the right” poll after rider struck by corner-cutting driver; Red light hypocrisy as lorry driver speeds through junction; LTN congestion claims blasted; Pog on the Poggio + more on the live blog

Is it Milan-Sanremo time yet? No, apparently it’s still just Tuesday, so join Ryan Mallon as he counts down the hours to Pogačar’s attack on the Poggio on the live blog
  • by Ryan Mallon
Tue, Mar 12, 2024 10:12
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SUMMARY

  • “Maybe the problem isn’t with cyclists, or an ambition for quiet safe residential streets, or Low Traffic Neighbourhoods. Maybe the problem is with too many cars or too many careless drivers”
  • Pog on the Poggio (and some questionable wall art)
  • Giro’s bonkers, “innovative” new time trial helmet makes an appearance… back in 2001
  • 2023 season “unique and may never happen again”, says Mathieu van der Poel
  • “These damn cyclists need to stop before they kill someone,” jokes cyclist, after filming lorry driver ploughing through red light that’s “only protecting pedestrians and cyclists after all”
  • Edinburgh’s cycle lanes strike again!
  • ‘It’s definitely the cyclist’s fault… because of, err, reasons’
  • Another day, another “who’s in the right?” cyclist versus driver question – with a glaringly obvious answer (while motorists claim “cyclists do this to themselves”)
Driver cuts corner and hits cyclist waiting at junction
Driver cuts corner and hits cyclist waiting at junction (Michael Rammell) (Image Credit: Michael Rammell)
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12 March 2024, 10:12

“Maybe the problem isn’t with cyclists, or an ambition for quiet safe residential streets, or Low Traffic Neighbourhoods. Maybe the problem is with too many cars or too many careless drivers”

More from Streatham’s now LTN-less car utopia:

Just maybe the problem isn’t with cyclists or an ambition for quiet safe residential streets, or Low Traffic Neighbourhoods. Maybe the problem is with too many cars or too many careless drivers.

Streatham High Road today! pic.twitter.com/iFhmRW0ts6

— Pete Elliott (@pete556) March 11, 2024

12 March 2024, 10:12

Pog on the Poggio (and some questionable wall art)

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Tadej Pogačar (@tadejpogacar)

A well-wrapped up Tadej Pogačar here, helpfully pointing out exactly where he’s going to attack (and warm the hearts of headline writers everywhere) on Saturday, during today’s recon of Milan-Sanremo’s crucial final climb.

Oh, and he also had time during his recce to visit one wall artist’s flattering depiction of the Slovenian superstar (alongside, I assume, Filippo Ganna), located somewhere on the Poggio:

Pogačar on the Poggio during Milan-Sanremo recon (Tadej Pogačar, Instagram)
Pogačar on the Poggio during Milan-Sanremo recon (Tadej Pogačar, Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Pogačar on the Poggio during Milan-Sanremo recon (Tadej Pogačar, Instagram)
Pogačar on the Poggio during Milan-Sanremo recon (Tadej Pogačar, Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Yikes.

Rather diplomatically, Pogačar described the portrait as “me in fill ‘sprinter’ version”.

To be fair, Pog in full sprinter mode would be a frightening prospect at La Primavera…

12 March 2024, 10:12

Giro’s bonkers, “innovative” new time trial helmet makes an appearance… back in 2001

In more ‘there is nothing new under the sun’ news, road.cc founding father Dave – while presumably digging through his old Cycling Plus archives – stumbled upon this dead ringer for Giro’s new “innovative”, crazy, probably soon-to-be-banned Aerohead time trial helmet… being worn by Cyclescheme founder Richard Grigsby way back in 2001.

Richard Grigsby wearing ‘Darth Vader’ time trial helmet in 2001
Richard Grigsby wearing ‘Darth Vader’ time trial helmet in 2001 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Richard Grigsby wearing ‘Darth Vader’ time trial helmet in 2001
Richard Grigsby wearing ‘Darth Vader’ time trial helmet in 2001 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“John Lafford made it and it fitted over an approved aero helmet,” Grigsby said at the time. “I used it after the excellent ’Get fit for the millennium’ series in Cycling Plus to score my dream of a 20- minute 10.”

Well, at least he got better results out of it than Visma-Lease a Bike have so far (what, too harsh?) And now we finally know where Giro and POC got all their ideas…

12 March 2024, 10:12

2023 season “unique and may never happen again”, says Mathieu van der Poel

As he prepares for his season debut, and title defence, at Milan-Sanremo on Saturday, Mathieu van der Poel has admitted that it will be difficult to replicate his career-defining 2023, a year that saw him a maiden rainbow jersey on the road in Glasgow, along with a ‘cross world title and wins at Paris-Roubaix and Sanremo.

Mathieu van der Poel, 2024 men’s UCI World Cyclocross Championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mathieu van der Poel, 2024 men’s UCI World Cyclocross Championships (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

(Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)

“Yeah, it was a really special season and it will be really difficult to do it the same or better… is impossible, I think. But for sure, I’m aware of the fact that it was unique and it will maybe never happen again,” Van der Poel, who’s already began his 2024 in style by winning his sixth cyclocross world championships, told the Eurosport Cycling Show, which will air tonight at 5.30pm.

When asked for his favourite moment of 2023, the 29-year-old said: “If I have to pick one, I think the World Championships is something I was always dreaming of, so it was maybe the nicest victory of last year.”

Mathieu van der Poel wins the 2023 world road race championships, Glasgow (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mathieu van der Poel wins the 2023 world road race championships, Glasgow (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 (Alex Broadway/SWpix.com)

Looking ahead to 2024, Van der Poel reckons his main targets are “mainly the same as I did last year” – with the added bonus of a possible tilt at Olympic gold in the road race or on his mountain bike (or both), with the MTB race coming just eight days after the end of this year’s Tour de France in Nice.

“It’s a bit of a strange year with the Olympics, which is also a goal for me,” the multidiscipline star says. “But yeah, mainly, the big races I target are the same as last year, and then I’ll be at the Olympics.”

In December, Van der Poel told Het Nieuwsblad that he won’t replicate his 2021 season, which saw him leave the Tour early to prepare for the Olympic mountain bike race in Tokyo (one he spectacularly crashed out of in the first lap as Tom Pidcock took gold).

2023 Paris Roubaix Mathieu van der Poel © Zac Williams-SWpix.com - 1 (4)
2023 Paris Roubaix Mathieu van der Poel © Zac Williams-SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2023 Paris Roubaix Mathieu van der Poel © Zac Williams-SWpix.com - 1 (4)
2023 Paris Roubaix Mathieu van der Poel © Zac Williams-SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

(Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

“Either I’ll ride the Tour and then I’ll only do the road race at the Games,” he said. “Or I don’t ride the Tour and then I do the road race and mountain biking. What I am certainly not going to do is ride the Tour and then leave it earlier, like I did for Tokyo.”

“We had a really good season, especially with Jasper [Philipsen] in the Tour, he was also super successful,” the four-time monument winner tells Eurosport. “So I think we try to improve every year. We will do so next year, but it will be difficult for the team in general to do better than this year.”

Well, despite those cautious words, I wouldn’t bet against Van der Poel emulating his rival and training partner Tadej Pogačar (who won his first race of the season at Strade Bianche) by starting his 2024 with a bang on the Poggio on Saturday…

12 March 2024, 10:12

“These damn cyclists need to stop before they kill someone,” jokes cyclist, after filming lorry driver ploughing through red light that’s “only protecting pedestrians and cyclists after all”

We’ve all heard it hundreds of times before: ‘Those pesky cyclists never stop at red lights, they’re a danger to everyone around them’ (to be honest, I’ve seen two or three variants of that very phrase on social media this morning).

However, that kind of anti-cycling energy and focus on red light jumping never seems to be transferred to those with the most potential to, you know, cause harm on the roads.

> “Why I skip red lights”: Journalist makes the case for cyclists riding through reds

And that’s the message currently being articulated by Canadian cyclist and TikToker Chris Crond who, while riding his bike at night through the wide, snowy roads of Winnipeg, Manitoba, crossed a junction and looked back just in time to see a lorry driver speeding through a red light.

Let me take a wild guess @cityofwinnipeg, there’s nothing you can do about your contracted semi’s blowing through red lights UNBELIEVABLY dangerously.

I mean this red light is only protecting pedestrians and cyclists after all right? #Winnipeg #biketwitter #bikelane pic.twitter.com/z6FOxdxTvF

— CʜʀɪsCʀᴏɴᴅ 🤟 (@chriscrond) March 11, 2024

“Did they just blow through?” he says in the clip. “F***ing joke.”

Tagging the City of Winnipeg’s municipal government in his post, Chris wrote: “Let me take a wild guess, there’s nothing you can do about your contracted semis blowing through red lights UNBELIEVABLY dangerously?

“I mean this red light is only protecting pedestrians and cyclists after all right?

“And by the way, if you say there’s nothing you can do or don’t respond, I’m going to step out when I have the right of way next time right as one of these guys are blowing though this red light and see what happens. And if I don’t die, I will be suing you.

“And you notice that fence? That very big blind spot before entering this crosswalk when going South. If you’re biking through here and you have a green light, you’re going to be biking fast. I guess our tax dollars are funding the death of our citizens, huh? Great investment.”

These damn Cyclists need to stop before they kill someone. They don’t follow any traffic laws and it’s unbelievably dangerous.

It’s time we license bike use like we do with these drivers. Then our streets will be safe. pic.twitter.com/nuuy9kiXUi

— CʜʀɪsCʀᴏɴᴅ 🤟 (@chriscrond) March 11, 2024

In another version of the video – complete with music and the sarcastic caption ‘Cyclists always run red lights’, Chris continued, tongue firmly in cheek: “These damn cyclists need to stop before they kill someone. They don’t follow any traffic laws and it’s unbelievably dangerous.

“It’s time we license bike use like we do with these drivers. Then our streets will be safe.”

The scary part is the number of people who think that would be the case… Until the next lorry driver blows on by.

12 March 2024, 10:12

Edinburgh’s cycle lanes strike again!

Picardy Place cycle lane blocked by lamppost (@wheelyradge/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Picardy Place cycle lane blocked by lamppost (@wheelyradge/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Cyclists fed up with “ridiculous” lamppost blocking busy cycle lane for five months

12 March 2024, 10:12

‘It’s definitely the cyclist’s fault… because of, err, reasons’

The fault lies with the cyclist, of course. Because of logic and reasons, and namely hmhmhmaahaaaaahmmmmm. pic.twitter.com/1nXkCJ3RyG

— David Rodrigues (@jdrodrigues12) March 12, 2024

12 March 2024, 10:12

Another day, another “who’s in the right?” cyclist versus driver question – with a glaringly obvious answer (while motorists claim “cyclists do this to themselves”)

Ah, don’t you just love it when you’re waiting to turn right at a junction, and a motorist chooses to cut the corner, ploughing straight into you, and then, five years later, some so-called ‘media personality’ shares it on Twitter and asks “whose mistake was this”?

> Mechanic escapes driving ban after cutting corner straight into cyclist

That’s the unfortunate internet fate that has befallen poor Michael Rammell, who was struck by a BMW driver while out cycling in Berkshire back in March 2019, luckily only suffering some “bumps, scrapes, and bruises”.

Rammell revealed at the time that he had been bombarded by anti-cycling trolls after sharing footage of the collision, describing it as “quite chilling just how many people have no regard for road safety”.

Whose mistake was this.

The driver or the cyclist? pic.twitter.com/df8dOIfm0M

— Oli London (@OliLondonTV) March 9, 2024

Well, as they say, those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it, and almost exactly five years after the collision, it’s doing the rounds again, having been viewed a whopping 20 million times since Oli London posted it on Twitter on Saturday, alongside the caption: “Whose mistake was this, the driver or the cyclist?”

Let’s just say some of the replies are… predictable.

“Cyclist.  He was supposed to stay single file in his lane,” wrote Robert.

“Cyclists do this to themselves—they think they’re invulnerable to the 2000 pound very fast machines around them, and they want to use the same space as those machines. Their collective sense of entitlement is infuriating,” added another user, perhaps forgetting to note that the motorist in the clip in question certainly felt ‘entitled’ to use the wrong lane while taking a corner.

“I’ll go ahead and piss everybody off by saying 50/50. The cyclist is fault because he was in the middle of the road, rather than the middle of the lane or the outside edge. The car is at fault because they cut the turn too close and entered the wrong lane,” said the diplomatic, but still very wrong, TX Dodge Dude.

Thankfully, others had some sense (a rare commodity on social media these days, mind you).

OMFG no wonder the justice system
Is fucked if people like the ones saying the cyclist ever sit on a jury ! When there’s clear video evidence of the car in the wrong lane pic.twitter.com/txBSwh35BB

— leilani dowding 🌸🚜 ☮️ (@LeilaniDowding) March 9, 2024

“How is this even a question? Cyclist never leaves his lane, driver cuts the corner,” noted Glenn, helpfully.

“It’s very clear driver was on wrong side of road,” said the very observant Leilani.

“Car clearly goes into the other lane. Car is in the wrong, all day long,” added Matthew.

Alright, that’s enough of that ‘debate’…

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After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s news editor. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.  

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58 thoughts on ““How is this even a question?” Cyclists slam “who’s in the right” poll after rider struck by corner-cutting driver; Red light hypocrisy as lorry driver speeds through junction; LTN congestion claims blasted; Pog on the Poggio + more on the live blog”

  1. mitsky
    March 12, 2024 at 10:57 am
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    Bywaters Skip lorry driver

    Bywaters Skip lorry driver going through red light in London next to a CSH bike lane, years ago.

    https://youtu.be/3hNGrZqAck8

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  2. wtjs
    March 12, 2024 at 11:16 am
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    The obvious fault of the

    The obvious fault of the driver cutting the corner, not bothering to look for a cyclist and hitting him was just what happened to me (imagine the cyclist waiting to leave the Sainsbury’s exit road in order to turn right onto the main road), except that the offending vehicle was going faster to avoid an oncoming vehicle. I was lucky in being only hit by the offside mirror. The police said ‘it was only a momentary loss of concentration-NFA’. So began my headcam career and the increasingly dispiriting dealings with the unapologetically anti-cyclist, pro-motorist LancsFilth

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  3. Legin
    March 12, 2024 at 11:45 am
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    Re cutting corners; never

    Re cutting corners; never mind it being a problem when on the bike; it’s a problem full stop. I can guarantee when I’m out in the car, stopped at a junction, a driver will cut the corner. I blame The Bell End School of Motoring!

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    • Hirsute
      March 12, 2024 at 1:16 pm
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      Plenty of corner cutting

      Plenty of corner cutting shown in dashcam videos.

      Replace the cyclist with a car and driver and no one would be saying the driver was in the wrong place on his side of the road.

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    • brooksby
      March 12, 2024 at 1:19 pm
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      All the people saying that

      All the people saying that the cyclist ought to have been in the middle of the lane, or over to the left (to turn right?) and yet you can guarantee that if the road had been slightly wider then motorists would have been happily waiting side by side to come out of there… 

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    • essexian
      March 13, 2024 at 7:13 am
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      Have you seen Mr Neils latest

      Have you seen Mr Neal’s latest cycling video on Youtube…. now we know who runs the school of motoring you name.  The bloke has not got a clue!

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  4. NotNigel
    March 12, 2024 at 11:47 am
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    The car cutting the corner is

    The car cutting the corner is a result of the driver looking for the gap instead of the road that they’re turning in to (clearly on the wrong side).  Had similar nearly happen to me although the driver saw me last minute and had to swerve on to the right side of the road.  Clearly in a trance waiting for the gap coming from the opposite direction.

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    • chrisonabike
      March 12, 2024 at 12:13 pm
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      This.  People are only

      This.  People are only looking for other large motor vehicles – that is the “threat” and (human nature) they focus most on that.

      How we get beyond that?  Perhaps:

      a) having an appreciation of the kinds of poor driving which are apparently inevitable (when we have mass motoring) and

      b) when designing infra it needs to be very very clear about what to expect where.  (It also needs to be standard).  Especially where different modes of transport interact.  Think level crossings… we’ve collectively learned the hard way there that you can’t be too clear and salient.  (We’ve also increasingly realised that it may be better and even cheaper overall to avoid different modes interacting altogether).

      Currently cyclists on the roads are still a very rare occurrence (most places).  A proportion of drivers “do not expect…” and some “look but don’t see”.

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    • IanMK
      March 12, 2024 at 1:19 pm
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      Had a mother dropping her

      Had a mother dropping her precious off at the local school do the same to me. Luckily she pulled up just in time. She then scowled at me until I moved out of the way. Now that’s entitlement!

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  5. Clem Fandango
    March 12, 2024 at 12:20 pm
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    I’ve been on the end of that

    I’ve been on the end of that exact corner cutting situation myself a few years ago.  Driver (not the car) in question was cutting the corner even more extravagantly and wasn’t even looking ahead & only looked up (presumably from his phone) as I began to shout rather loudly having identified the “oh sh1t” moment and realised that as I was at a standstill there was absolutely nothing I could do.  I think I got as far as “OH FUUUUUU….” before the impact.   Broken ribs & a dislocated shoulder.  Fortunately only superficial damage to the bike.  Equally fortunately there were witnesses & a passing paramedic and it ended up with said driver going on an awareness course.

    How anyone can think that the cyclist is any way at fault beggars belief, but just speaks to the prevailing attitude on the road.

    “Cyclists do this to themselves—they think they’re invulnerable to the 2000 pound very fast machines around them, and they want to use the same space as those machines. Their collective sense of entitlement is infuriating,” 

    Totally arse about face.  The car is the invasive species in a public space. When driving we are wanting to use the same space as other, more longstanding and more vulnerable, road users.  It’s the driver & their car that pose the danger (not the road) – hence the requirement for a licence and insurance, and all that infrastructure that’s needed to make roads usable by motor vehicles (the very visible presence of which every inch of the way being what makes the non cycling, non walking, angry drivist belive that “roads are for cars”).  The collective sense of misplaced privilege & entitlement…….

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  6. spen
    March 12, 2024 at 12:22 pm
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    Why are you giving that

    Why are you giving that utterly digusting oxygen thief london publicity?

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    • SimoninSpalding
      March 12, 2024 at 1:03 pm
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      I’ve never heard of him. I

      I’ve never heard of him. I take it from your comment you wouldn’t recommend I spend this afternoon going through his back catalogue? 

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  7. IanMK
    March 12, 2024 at 1:06 pm
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    “Cyclists do this to

    “Cyclists do this to themselves—they think they’re invulnerable to the 2000 pound very fast machines around them, and they want to use the same space as those machines. Their collective sense of entitlement is infuriating,”

    I don’t think there’s a single cyclist that considers himself invulnerable to the 2000 pound  very fast macines* and, yes, as a taxpayer I do feel entitled to use the space that those taxes have paid for. **

    * if we were only dealing with vehicles that weighed just 2000lbs (approx 900kg) perhaps we would feel less vulnerable.

    ** and I am legally entitled to use.

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  8. wycombewheeler
    March 12, 2024 at 1:13 pm
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    at a tikme when inflation

    at a time when inflation seems rampant in the cycling industry, it’s good to know there are still bargains to be had

    Thanks to the £1 wind tunnel donated by Halfords back in 2021, formerly of the Boardman Performance Centre but now located near BC HQ in Manchester,

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  9. mattw
    March 12, 2024 at 1:28 pm
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    Interesting that the corner

    Interesting that the corner cutting tweet replies are full of Yanks pulling their puddings.

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  10. Hirsute
    March 12, 2024 at 2:33 pm
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    Can’t beat Rhondda Pickering
    Can’t beat Rhondda Pickering for cutting corners!
    https://road.cc/content/news/near-miss-day-842-298401

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    • brooksby
      March 12, 2024 at 2:36 pm
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      I’d forgotten about that one!

      I’d forgotten about that one!  Thanks, hirsute! 😀

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  11. mitsky
    March 12, 2024 at 2:45 pm
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    Regarding the corner cutting,

    Regarding the corner cutting…
    I think the question to ask is “Would the driver’s manouver have resulted in them failing the driving test?”
    Given how dangerous it is, I would say “Yes.”
    In which case, anyone denying it is the driver’s fault should burn their own licence.

    Ultimately, it is worth considering that if a driver’s actions caught on camera (or with other conclusive proof) would result in a failed test… should the law be that they immediately lose their licence?

    I also remember this one from a few years ago.
    I was legally waiting in the ASZ/bike box to turn right when an approaching tram driver thinks I’m in the way…
    https://youtu.be/7mOl-62dSbo

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  12. Left_is_for_Losers
    March 12, 2024 at 2:48 pm
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    Was Lambeth Council a LABOUR

    Was Lambeth Council a LABOUR council?

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    • chrisonabike
      March 12, 2024 at 2:59 pm
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      I’m sure Flintshire Lad would

      I’m sure Flintshire Lad would have let us know in the traditional manner…

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      • Left_is_for_Losers
        March 12, 2024 at 3:11 pm
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        I thought I’d better mention

        I thought I’d better mention it seeing as road.cc, the most left leaning, woke and loosely cycling related politics website omitted to state the fact. 

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        • Clem Fandango
          March 12, 2024 at 3:18 pm
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          very woke of you

          very woke of you

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          • perce
            March 12, 2024 at 4:15 pm
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            I agree.

            I agree.

        • Car Delenda Est
          March 12, 2024 at 3:29 pm
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          Labour is woke? Good one.
          Labour is woke? Good one.

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        • perce
          March 12, 2024 at 4:25 pm
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          Do you know, I’ve been on the

          Do you know, I’ve been on the internet for years and years and I’m still not half way through all the websites out there. Keep trying, and I’m sure you’ll find one you like.

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      • Flintshire Boy
        March 12, 2024 at 6:37 pm
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        .

        .

        LOL!

        .

        Gosh, it’s been so long, but still you remember the good times that we had together, don’t you, Babe. (Although it does rather seem that you have forgotten my name. All men are beasts, aren’t they?)

        .

        OK, here goes, by special request and for one night only:

        .

        ‘A Lay Ba Council. A Laaaaaay Ba Council.’

        .

        Happy to oblige! Regards, FB.

         

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        • chrisonabike
          March 12, 2024 at 6:46 pm
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          Flintshire Boy wrote:

          Gosh, it’s been so long, but still you remember the good times that we had together, don’t you, Babe. (Although it does rather seem that you have forgotten my name. All men are beasts, aren’t they?)

          — Flintshire Boy

          Alas… as the bishop said, my apologies.

          Yet each man kills the thing he loves,
          .
          By each let this be heard,
          .
          Some do it with a bitter look,
          .
          Some with a flattering word,
          .
          The coward does it with a kiss,
          .
          The brave man with a sword!

          … but the smart money just runs it over with a car.

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          • Flintshire Boy
            March 13, 2024 at 1:10 pm
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            .

            .

            Nice one, Chris, but don’t you be going Wilde with me!

            .

            All in good spirit (unlike some!). ‘preciate it.

            .

          • chrisonabike
            March 13, 2024 at 1:58 pm
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            Not bad, but IIRC Stephen Fry

            Not bad, but IIRC Stephen Fry topped yours when interviewed about his role in an Oscar biopic – “I was born to be Wilde”.

          • Rendel Harris
            March 13, 2024 at 2:46 pm
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            chrisonabike wrote:

            Not bad, but IIRC Stephen Fry topped yours when interviewed about his role in an Oscar biopic – “I was born to be Wilde”.

            — chrisonabike

            Very good, Oscar himself was fond of a pun: he once boasted when giving a talk that he could make a pun on any subject; someone in the audience shouted out “the Queen” and he replied “Oh but of course the Queen is not a subject.”

            Shame Fry didn’t win an Oscar for the film (I’ve known worse performances win it), he could really have gone to town with the puns then.

    • MattieKempy
      March 12, 2024 at 3:21 pm
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      Quite possibly, as a

      Quite possibly, as a Conservative council wouldn’t even have trialled an LTN unless some corrupt Big Oil, Big Tech or stupidly rich tw@t businessperson/industriallist/thief had paid them to do so.

      Oh, and I’m still a Woke, Snowflake, Left Loser FYI!

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      • SimoninSpalding
        March 12, 2024 at 3:25 pm
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        You missed out racist and

        You missed out racist and mysoginist from your list of Tory donors.

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        • IanMK
          March 12, 2024 at 4:11 pm
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          SimoninSpalding wrote:

          You missed out racist and mysoginist from your list of Tory donors.

          — SimoninSpalding

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-68546206

          So even Tory MPs agree that at least one of their donors is exactly that.

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        • Hirsute
          March 12, 2024 at 6:47 pm
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          It’s not racism if you do a

          It’s not racism if you do a lot of business in Jamaica, Malaysia and Bangladesh.

          In fact, some of my best friends are black.

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      • Left_is_for_Losers
        March 13, 2024 at 7:15 am
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        MattieKempy wrote:

        Quite possibly, as a Conservative council wouldn’t even have trialled an LTN unless some corrupt Big Oil, Big Tech or stupidly rich tw@t businessperson/industriallist/thief had paid them to do so.

        Oh, and I’m still a Woke, Snowflake, Left Loser FYI!

        — MattieKempy

        Good to see LABOUR pull yet another u-turn on something. 

        As Boris said, they’ve got more flip flops than Bournemouth beach

        Also sorry to hear you’re still heading down the rabbit hole of woke leftness, good luck picking up the pieces when you find out what a flop it is. 

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  13. mitsky
    March 12, 2024 at 3:21 pm
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    CycleGaz’s own evidence

    CycleGaz’s own evidence showing the difference made to congestion during school holidays and term time…
    Now what is it that is causing traffic gridlock again…?
    Oh yes, cyclists and LTNs…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z57UgWLCfRg

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    • Mr Hoopdriver
      March 12, 2024 at 4:29 pm
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      Thanks.

      Thanks.

      I really enjoyed that for the “traffic jamming”.   I missed the quiet side and was rivetted to the normal day ride.

       

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  14. stonojnr
    March 12, 2024 at 3:40 pm
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    Streatham LTN? pulled out you
    Streatham LTN? pulled out you say, no doesnt ring any bells

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    • wycombewheeler
      March 12, 2024 at 5:53 pm
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      stonojnr wrote:

      Streatham LTN? pulled out you say, no doesnt ring any bells

      — stonojnr

      wish the parents of the one streatham campaigners had “pulled out”

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  15. mctrials23
    March 12, 2024 at 3:47 pm
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    Another case of “how on earth

    Another case of “how on earth have all these people got licences” and “holy shit I share the roads with people like this” moment. The mind boggles. I think you could actually remove a large proportion of bad drivers from the roads with an online questionnaire on road safety and fault. Show them clips like this and ask them to rate who is at fault on a scale of 1-10 and see what happens. 

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    • Matthew Acton-Varian
      March 12, 2024 at 4:19 pm
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      And you can bet that a driver

      And you can bet that a driver like that, if there was no queue of cars looking to exit the junction that the car that hit the cyclist would have turned so early they would have nearly mounted a kerb (if there was one) – Seen it all too often from distracted or impatient drivers. Imagine if Give Way lines had alligator teeth to within 2ft of the centre line – drivers wouldn’t cut corners then, would they? ( I know that long or abnormal load vehicles would not have manouvring space at many junctions for this to be viable)

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  16. MTB Refugee
    March 12, 2024 at 6:32 pm
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    Someone did exactly the same

    Someone did exactly the same thing to me, cut the corner and smashed into me. Only difference was that I was also in a car (as a front seat passenger)…

    In the case of it being car vs car whose fault is it, the car driver or the car driver? It’s a super simple question; if the bike were are car, who would be at fault? Clearly it would be the car that drove into the stationary vehicle, there’s really no argument.

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    • mitsky
      March 13, 2024 at 9:12 am
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      “Clearly it would be the

      “Clearly it would be the DRIVER that drove into the stationary vehicle…”

      http://rc-rg.com

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  17. ride2smile
    March 12, 2024 at 8:20 pm
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    Lots of similarities between
    Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets.

    https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

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    • eburtthebike
      March 13, 2024 at 10:02 am
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      Thanks, interesting, and as

      Thanks, interesting, and as you say, the parallels are striking (pun intended).

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    • hawkinspeter
      March 13, 2024 at 10:09 am
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      ride2smile wrote:

      Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets.

      https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

      — ride2smile

      I’m curious now about why the men had leg injuries and the women had knee injuries

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      • eburtthebike
        March 13, 2024 at 2:57 pm
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets. https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

        — hawkinspeter

        I’m curious now about why the men had leg injuries and the women had knee injuries

        — ride2smile

        I wondered that too, but concluded that women must have knees other than on their legs: don’t ask me where.

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        • chrisonabike
          March 13, 2024 at 3:14 pm
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          They come after their names

          They come after their names when married?  Mrs Smith, née Jones?

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        • hawkinspeter
          March 13, 2024 at 3:16 pm
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          eburtthebike wrote:

          Lots of similarities between this article about ski helmets and cycle helmets. https://www.skimag.com/gear/50-year-stud-on-helmets-and-injury-prevention/

          — eburtthebike

          I’m curious now about why the men had leg injuries and the women had knee injuries

          — hawkinspeter

          I wondered that too, but concluded that women must have knees other than on their legs: don’t ask me where.

          — ride2smile

          Must be their kidneys

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  18. john_smith
    March 13, 2024 at 12:43 am
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    ‘”Cyclist.  He was supposed

    ‘”Cyclist.  He was supposed to stay single file in his lane,” wrote Robert.’

    It would certainly be worrying if a solitary cyclist were to do anything but stay in single file in his lane. Maybe Robert was very drunk.

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  19. essexian
    March 13, 2024 at 8:11 am
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    Re: the cutting of corner

    Re: the cutting of corner video….

    I’ve said it before and i’ll keep saying it but its STUPID in the extreme that we only have to take our test once, unless we do something stupid and get a ban with a retest…. not very likely given how few Police there are on the streets now.

    Its time for a re-test every five years. I have to prove I still have the skills to do my job every year and all I do is push paper” from one inbox to another! 

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    • bikes
      March 13, 2024 at 9:34 am
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      Wouldn’t more enforcement be
      Wouldn’t more enforcement be better? Eg what will happen to this driver? A test just proves you can pay attention for 45 minutes, after which a lot of people will drive completely differently.

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      • hawkinspeter
        March 13, 2024 at 9:53 am
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        bikes wrote:

        Wouldn’t more enforcement be better? Eg what will happen to this driver? A test just proves you can pay attention for 45 minutes, after which a lot of people will drive completely differently.

        — bikes

        Absolutely.

        I don’t care how someone drove during a test – I care how they drive around me. Due to the lack of traffic police and the lackluster treatment of dangerous drivers by both the police and the courts, most drivers think they can just drive as selfishly as they want.

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        • NOtotheEU
          March 13, 2024 at 10:33 am
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          You can’t blame the BMW

          You can’t blame the BMW driver for cutting the corner, he’d just read online how dangerous ebike batteries are and was rushing home to check his ebike riding neighbour hadn’t burnt down his house.

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      • chrisonabike
        March 13, 2024 at 10:44 am
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        I think yet again it’s “both”

        I think yet again it’s “both”.

        Repeat testing does have benefits:

        • Should screen out those who e.g. may no longer be physically capable of driving safely.
        • Provides a prompt for people to keep abreast of current regulations – and indeed road infra!
        • There’s some “politics” in this in that it signals driving is neither an “inalienable right” nor is it a club where after “initiation” you’re a member for life.

        Agree that more enforcement is also vital.  If there’s very little chance of getting nicked we know that substantial fractions of people will “bend the rules” (break the law).  Far more than 50% for some speed limits and likely nearly everyone for driving on the footway.

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        • bikes
          March 13, 2024 at 12:45 pm
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          I think the problem is things
          I think the problem is things like this are seen as ‘bad, but not that bad’. The chances of getting caught for texting, running lights, not paying attention etc are low and the fines or bans are tiny or nonexistent.

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  20. brooksby
    March 13, 2024 at 8:15 am
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    Quote:

    Victoria Lebrec can’t be sure if what she knows about 8 December 2014 is from her own memory, or the BBC video cameras that captured her bleeding heavily at the side of the road, tyre marks visible across her crushed pelvis from the lorry that knocked her from her bicycle. Or maybe what she knows is from the CCTV footage that was reviewed first as evidence in a criminal case and then in a gruelling, victim-blaming struggle for the compensation she urgently needed. How else would she buy the £70,000 prosthetic leg her injuries required? And how else could she find closure and move on in her changed reality and changed body?

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/mar/13/lost-leg-after-being-crushed-by-lorry-victoria-lebrec

     

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  21. kingleo
    March 15, 2024 at 2:03 am
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    I cycled to and from work in

    I cycled to and from work in London for 48 years, starting from 1958 – I can tell you from experience that we had huge traffic jams in London a long time before bus /cycle lanes and LTNs. The only way to reduce the traffic jams in London is to reduce the amount of traffic considerably – motorways and motorway-type roads that lead into London have made the traffic jams a lot worse.

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Poorly parked and unlicensed e-bikes to be seized and impounded in council garage to curb “Wild West” operators
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“A lot of businesses would be surprised by just how much modern electric cargo bikes can carry”: London Assembly member responds to mockery over comments suggesting tradespeople switch to cargo bikes
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Latest Comments

Circles 60 minutes ago

Halfords in Milton Keynes has space to lock up a grand total of two bicycles outside it's shop. That's how committed they are. I looked at stuff there, at a time it wasn't busy, then went to Decathlon's cycling department and that was heaving with customers. They seem to focus on car stuff these days, they may be better off dropping cycling.

in: Halfords’ summer cycling sales surge by over 8% as retailer focuses on growing e-bike offering
No Reply 2 hours ago

@shufflingb I agree. I switched off the voice control on my GoPro when it’s on the bike. It would randomly switch on and off when I was talking to my riding buddy. Who needs voice control on the bike, in wind and traffic?

in: Garmin launches Edge 1060 GPS bike computer with voice control, alongside new Edge Explore 3
belugabob 4 hours ago

@Rendel Harris If was the passenger, I'd have got out at the petrol station, taken the keys (if possible) walked away and phoned the police.

in: “One-sided” ITV story on Oxford Street pedestrianisation features 7 seconds on cyclists; Council unveils major cycle lane plans… supported by Facebook comments! Merida replace Specialized after 18 years at Soudal-Quick Step + more on the live blog
belugabob 4 hours ago

surely the shopping carrying dilemma at Oxford Street is no worse than at places like Bluewater?

in: “One-sided” ITV story on Oxford Street pedestrianisation features 7 seconds on cyclists; Council unveils major cycle lane plans… supported by Facebook comments! Merida replace Specialized after 18 years at Soudal-Quick Step + more on the live blog
NotNigel 4 hours ago

@Rendel Harris absolute scum..no other words

in: “One-sided” ITV story on Oxford Street pedestrianisation features 7 seconds on cyclists; Council unveils major cycle lane plans… supported by Facebook comments! Merida replace Specialized after 18 years at Soudal-Quick Step + more on the live blog
Pub bike 4 hours ago

Something I learned the hard way going down the south side of the Col du Parpaillon in the mud and rain on a loaded touring bike was to ride across the ruts not in them.

in: Stay loose, pick your line, and session to success: 7 things gravel riders can learn from MTB
mdavidford 5 hours ago

Trainers with steel toe-caps?

in: “One-sided” ITV story on Oxford Street pedestrianisation features 7 seconds on cyclists; Council unveils major cycle lane plans… supported by Facebook comments! Merida replace Specialized after 18 years at Soudal-Quick Step + more on the live blog
Rendel Harris 5 hours ago

Not sure I trust myself to comment on this one, so I'll just give the facts: guy ran over a cyclist, a 56-year-old headteacher, with his 4x4. Dragged him a mile with the passenger still able to hear him moaning in pain. Stopped to try and pull him off the car, couldn't so got back in and drove off again, slaloming to get rid of him. At least he's on trial for murder, which is something. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c674p0l8925eo

in: “One-sided” ITV story on Oxford Street pedestrianisation features 7 seconds on cyclists; Council unveils major cycle lane plans… supported by Facebook comments! Merida replace Specialized after 18 years at Soudal-Quick Step + more on the live blog
Miller 11 hours ago

Weak fork not necessarily weak. I did the same once, not so dramatically as here, but the fork was still toast and I cracked a wrist bone. Mechanism is, if the tyre catches the mudguard, the guard can start rotating with the tyre. The mudguard stays instantly dig into the tyre, because geometry, the front wheel locks completely solid in about a quarter of a revolution, and the rider gets brutally thrown off the front while wondering what just happened. This is why front mudguard stays need a breakaway fitment.

in: “One-sided” ITV story on Oxford Street pedestrianisation features 7 seconds on cyclists; Council unveils major cycle lane plans… supported by Facebook comments! Merida replace Specialized after 18 years at Soudal-Quick Step + more on the live blog
Tom_77 12 hours ago

@mdavidford .

in: Active travel has been weaponised claims Welsh transport minister, who criticises lack of strategy behind previous government cycling funding

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