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Giro Stage 12
Giro Stage 12 (LaPresse) (Image Credit: LaPresse)

Team calls for Giro to be stopped after two weeks’ racing; De Gendt feels organisers are ‘hiding things’ regarding Covid-19 situation; 17 police motorbike racers associated with Giro-E test positive; Video: James May builds a bike + more

Today’s live blog with Alex Bowden (daytime) and Simon MacMichael (evening)
  • by Alex Bowden
Thu, Oct 15, 2020 08:31
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SUMMARY

  • Today's stage of the Giro d'Italia
  • Fuglsang backtracks
  • Video: James May builds a bike
  • Lotto-Soudal riders discussing whether or not to start today says Thomas de Gendt
  • VecchioJo is aimlessly pedalling about
  • NTT Pro Cycling – Africa's only top flight team – could fold with implications for the Qhubeka charity
  • RCS says the 17 police officers who tested positive for Covid-19 were "exclusively engaged in the escort of Giro-E"
  • Rule No.1 of stick bottles: at least *pretend* that you want the bottle
  • Mini orcas: not a deterrent to parking in cycle lanes
  • 75-year-old former marine completes North Coast 500 for PTSD charity, raising over £13,000
  • What's your GSI?
  • Thames Valley Police releases images of two men officers would like to speak to following 27 bike thefts in Marlow
  • Jhonatan Narvaez wins Stage 12 of the Giro
  • EF Pro Cycling calls for Giro to be stopped after two weeks' racing
  • UCI says there will be extra screening of Giro teams
Giro Stage 12
Giro Stage 12 (LaPresse) (Image Credit: LaPresse)
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15 October 2020, 08:31

Today's stage of the Giro d'Italia

Stage 12 is 200-and-odd very hard kilometres.

Stage 12, 2020 Giro
Stage 12, 2020 Giro (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Stage 12, 2020 Giro
Stage 12, 2020 Giro (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Organisers say it follows the same route as the Gran Fondo Nove Colli, if that means much to you.

They say: “With the exception of the first and of the last 25km, the remaining 150km do not even feature a single flat metre to let the bunch catch their breath.

“The route is an endless succession of climbs and descents, with double-digit gradients at points, often on narrow and worn-out roads.”

15 October 2020, 08:31

Fuglsang backtracks

We reported yesterday that Jakob Fuglsang has been letting off a bit of steam in his daily column in the Danish media.

The recurring theme is that he is disappointed-to-angry with his team.

Our favourite line was the utterly brutal one about Oscar Rodriguez. “It’s not like I’m disappointed with him. I probably would not have expected more, but you are allowed to hope.”

He also said of Vincenzo Nibali (presumably partly in jest): “He doesn’t say hello to me. Maybe he’s jealous of me.”

Then there are his comments about Sicily.

It’s important to note that these were produced with the assistance of Google Translate.

Jakob Fuglsang about Sicily. Yep, I can now see why Nibali might not say hi to you at the start. 🙈 #Giro pic.twitter.com/89xbobJDpR

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) October 13, 2020

Fuglsang has now pulled a very modern version of the old “I’ve been misquoted” in a bid to minimise the damage.

Fuglsang declares his love for Italy and says the journalist who’s helping with his daily blogs during the Giro has been distorting his words https://t.co/74oZHuPjx3 (🇮🇹)

— the Inner Ring (@inrng) October 14, 2020

He said: “The translations with Google Translate, believe me, are not so reliable. I love Italy and that translation does not reflect my thoughts.”

You can certainly lose a bit of nuance with any translation – particularly one generated by computer software. Not sure that explains everything though, Jakob.

15 October 2020, 08:31

Video: James May builds a bike

“A new bicycle – the most exciting thing you can buy.”

15 October 2020, 08:31

Lotto-Soudal riders discussing whether or not to start today says Thomas de Gendt

According to Thomas de Gendt, Lotto-Soudal signed the start list today but have since been discussing whether or not to ride on the team bus.

De Gendt: “I don’t feel like racing today, the situation is trending the wrong direction and it feels like the organizer conceals things. We’re having discussions between riders wether we should start.”https://t.co/udXWmXFV7V

— La Flamme Rouge (@laflammerouge16) October 15, 2020

It’s been reported that 17 police motorbike riders associated with the Giro-E tested positive for Covid-19.

Race organisers said the officers were separate from the main race, but de Gendt seems sceptical.

“I thought it was much safer in the Tour. I never felt unsafe there at any point. But I have the feeling that the organisation is hiding things and giving it a twist.

“There is a lot of money involved and for sponsors it is very important that we go to Milan. They are waiting for the government to make a decision and those decisions come too late.”

15 October 2020, 08:31

VecchioJo is aimlessly pedalling about

I’m late on this, but I’m posting it because there’s every chance some of you will have missed it too.

VecchioJo about a goalless focus-less year of riding.

15 October 2020, 08:31

NTT Pro Cycling – Africa's only top flight team – could fold with implications for the Qhubeka charity

The BBC reports that Japanese telecommunications company NTT has pulled out of sponsoring Africa’s top cycling team, for whom Domenico Pozzovivo is currently sitting fourth overall in the Giro d’Italia.

🇮🇹 #Giro

🚆Stage 11 of @giroditalia was a day for the fast men but for our team it was one to rally around our leader, Domenico Pozzovivo.

We continue to make history for our team as he retains 4th spot on GC, as we continue to fight for our future.#BicyclesChangeLives pic.twitter.com/Me0MrXt3nm

— NTT Pro Cycling (@NTTProCycling) October 14, 2020

Team principal Doug Ryder said the team was, “struggling to keep the lights on.”

They’ll need a new sponsor in place by November.

“We’ve literally got three to four weeks, so the clock is absolutely ticking. We hope we can find somebody who can keep us going.”

NTT Pro Cycling was formerly MTN-Qhubeka and Team Dimension Data and is still connected to the Qhubeka charity which provides African students with bikes.

“This is our tenth year in solid partnership with them and we’ve helped [give more than] 100,000 bicycles to individuals and give them hope, opportunity and change lives,” said Ryder.

“The team has given that initiative global exposure. We will continue to support Qhubeka, no question, but if the team doesn’t exist then it will severely impact Qhubeka as a whole.”

15 October 2020, 08:31

RCS says the 17 police officers who tested positive for Covid-19 were "exclusively engaged in the escort of Giro-E"

We alluded to this earlier when reporting on Thomas de Gendt’s suspicions that Giro d’Italia organisers RCS Sport are ‘hiding’ things with regards to the spread of Covid-19 at the race.

It’s been reported that 17 police motorbike riders tested positive, but RCS says these particular officers were only tasked with covering the Giro-E e-bike race, which finishes an hour before the main race each day.

A spokesperson said:

“With reference to the stories that appeared in the press relating to the Coronavirus status of Polizia Stradale officers at the Giro d’Italia, it must be highlighted that the reported cases only concern personnel exclusively engaged in the escort at the Giro-E, an event with organization, logistics, hotels, timetables and starting locations completely separate from those of the Giro d’Italia.

“It was found that the cluster would have originated in the technical escort team. As for the escort policemen on the Giro d’Italia, who follow autonomous prophylaxis dynamics, the recent Covid tests carried out have all returned negative responses.”

15 October 2020, 08:31

Rule No.1 of stick bottles: at least *pretend* that you want the bottle

🗣 @brismithy: “Bit of a naughty moment there from Movistar” 😬

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— Eurosport UK (@Eurosport_UK) October 15, 2020

15 October 2020, 08:31

Mini orcas: not a deterrent to parking in cycle lanes

We’ve been sent some photos of school run time on Bounds Green Road this morning. Who could have predicted that installing mostly ‘mini-orca’ cycle lane segregators, designed to be driven over, rather than wands would not stop people from driving over them into the cycle lane? pic.twitter.com/YHBvwWftkf

— Haringey Cycling (@HaringeyCyclist) October 15, 2020

15 October 2020, 08:31

75-year-old former marine completes North Coast 500 for PTSD charity, raising over £13,000

Jonathan Thomson north coast 500 fundraiser
Jonathan Thomson north coast 500 fundraiser (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jonathan Thomson north coast 500 fundraiser
Jonathan Thomson north coast 500 fundraiser (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Jonathan Thompson set off on 5th October to complete his mammoth challenge, and accompanied by a small support team, he conquered the brutal 500 mile route around North-West Scotland within a week.

A former Royal Marine, Mr Thompson was raising funds for the PTSD Resolution charity, describing PTSD as “a dreadful affliction”. He trained six times a week leading up to the event, making use of a road bike and a Wattbike Atom, and faced hilly terrain mixed with typically dreadful Scottish weather during the challenge itself. Doubling back from John o’ Groats on the final days to avoid the busy A9, the total distance was extended to 542  miles.

Mr Thompson originally aimed to raise £10,000, but has already smashed that target with the running total now over £13,000 – if you want to donate the fundraiser is still live here, and you can find out more about the PTSD Resolution charity here.

15 October 2020, 08:31

What's your GSI?

Global stress Indicator: GSI
Health, emotional stress, relationship health, financial stress, endocrine function, neurological fatigue, viral load, sympathetic/ parasympathetic function all arguably more important than ‘outputs’ as they affect outputs. GSI+TSS=holistic coaching

— Nathan Haas (@NathanPeterHaas) October 15, 2020

15 October 2020, 08:31

Thames Valley Police releases images of two men officers would like to speak to following 27 bike thefts in Marlow

Between August 1 and September 8 a total of 27 bicycles were stolen from three locations across Marlow.

The thefts occurred from outside Sainsbury’s supermarket in West Street, from Higginson Park, and from outside Marlow Railway Station.

Sergeant Robin Hughes, of Marlow’s Neighbourhood Team, said: “As part of our enquiries, I would like to speak to the two men shown in the images as they may have information which could assist us. If you recognise them or believe you are either individual, please contact police.

“Many of the bicycles stolen were locked so if you have to leave your bicycle in public I would urge you to please ensure you double lock it as securely as possible in a recognised secure cycle parking area, which is well lit and is covered by CCTV. Use two good quality locks, at least one of which is a D-lock and remove or secure any removable parts.

“It is also advisable to get your bike securely marked and registering it at BikeRegister. Please take the same steps at home to ensure your bicycle is secure.”

If you have any information about the incidents please contact the 24-hour non-emergency number 101 quoting the reference 43200271523.

Thief 1
Thief 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Thief 1
Thief 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

Thief 3
Thief 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Thief 3
Thief 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

15 October 2020, 08:31

Jhonatan Narvaez wins Stage 12 of the Giro

Jhonatan Narvaez (Ineos Grenadiers) has won from the break on a day of miserable weather in the Giro d’Italia.

The Ecuadorian was one of two riders who had seemed set to hold off the peloton to contest the win. However, the unfortunate Mark Padun (Bahrain-McLaren) suffered a puncture immediately after the final climb of the day.

15 October 2020, 08:31

EF Pro Cycling calls for Giro to be stopped after two weeks' racing

Eurosport reports that a proposal from EF Pro Cycling to stop the Giro d’Italia at the second rest day because of “a clearly compromised bubble” has been refused by the UCI.

A proposal from @EFprocycling to halt the #Giro d’Italia, because of “a clearly compromised bubble”, has been refused by @UCI_cycling.

— Eurosport UK (@Eurosport_UK) October 15, 2020

The team wrote to request that the Grand Tour end this coming Sunday, with winners declared as per their positions at that point.

It said that following a series of positive tests at the first rest day,  “it must be expected that further illness will result.”

Mitchelton-Scott and Jumbo-Visma have pulled out of the race. Regarding finishing the Giro early, the letter says that, “it would be better for the Giro and the UCI World Tour…(if) this be done in a systematic, holistic way versus a chaotic withdrawal on a team by team basis.”

The UCI denied the request with its president David Lappartient arguing, “we now face a challenge to finish the season and this can be achieved by continuing this spirit of collaboration and unity in professional cycling.”

EF says it will leave the Giro if the team returns even one positive test – and may even call it a day before that happens.

“While we hope to remain in the race until an official early finish, should anyone on our team test positive, or should the riders and staff grow uncomfortable with the situation, we will leave the race at that time.”

15 October 2020, 08:31

UCI says there will be extra screening of Giro teams

Responding to EF Pro Cycling’s request that the Giro d’Italia be cut short (see below) the UCI has said there will be additional general screening of teams on Thursday and Friday, on top of the testing due on the second rest day (Monday).

15 October 2020, 08:31

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14 thoughts on “Team calls for Giro to be stopped after two weeks’ racing; De Gendt feels organisers are ‘hiding things’ regarding Covid-19 situation; 17 police motorbike racers associated with Giro-E test positive; Video: James May builds a bike + more”

  1. Miller
    October 15, 2020 at 10:13 am
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    De Gendt is right, I’d never

    De Gendt is right, I’d never noticed how close Sicily is to mainland Italy. Why isn’t there a bridge? 

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    • the little onion
      October 15, 2020 at 10:17 am
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      Because it would be, by some

      Because it would be, by some margin, the world’s biggest suspension bridge. In an earthquake prone region, subject to crosswinds.

       

      As I understand it, a bridge has been approved and subsequently cancelled a few times, because of cost and risk.

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    • Secret_squirrel
      October 15, 2020 at 12:00 pm
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      I think Mr De Gendt needs to

      .

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  2. PRSboy
    October 15, 2020 at 10:28 am
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    I’ve watched the Italian Job.

    I’ve watched the Italian Job… Fuglsang better tread carefully.  It would be a shame if he entered a tunnel at speed and met, say, a bulldozer.

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  3. EK Spinner
    October 15, 2020 at 11:00 am
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    Mr May, that was crap, the

    Mr May, that was crap, the front brake hose (probably cable) should not pass behind/under the frame, it will end up catching on the front tyre you muppet

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  4. Secret_squirrel
    October 15, 2020 at 11:56 am
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    “follow autonomous

    “follow autonomous prophylaxis dynamics”

    Is it just me that this phrase conjures visions of some giant robot condom laying waste to Neo-Tokyo?

    It is just me?  As you were then.

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  5. Secret_squirrel
    October 15, 2020 at 12:00 pm
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    I think Mr Fuglsang needs to

    I think Mr Fuglsang needs to learn the difference between speaking out loud and his internal monologue.   Its like the journalist has tapped into his thoughts prior to going through his internal censor.  Unless of course he’s like that all the time.

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  6. jollygoodvelo
    October 15, 2020 at 3:12 pm
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    [blockquote]autonomous

    autonomous prophylaxis dynamics

    I don’t know what this is, but I suspect my wife wouldn’t like to find out I’ve been watching it.

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    • Brauchsel
      October 15, 2020 at 11:47 pm
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      I think I’ve got one of their

      I think I’ve got one of their Peel Sessions on cassette. 

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  7. captain_slog
    October 15, 2020 at 4:38 pm
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    Love the sticky-bottle clip.

    Love the sticky-bottle clip. But let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. I imagine the conversation went something like this:

    Hector: What is it? What’s in the bottle, guys? What’s the drink?

    Soigneurs: [After some discussion] Er, we think it’s our secret recipe: a nutritious mix of cold tea and beetroot juice.

    Hector: Eeeeuch!

    (But in Spanish, natch.)

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  8. Secret_squirrel
    October 15, 2020 at 9:16 pm
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    Maybe it’s my eyes but maybe

    Maybe it’s my eyes but maybe someone should tell Marlow rozzers that all 3 pictures are the same man….

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      October 15, 2020 at 10:01 pm
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      Nah, bottom pic the geezer

      Nah, bottom pic the geezer has thick sideburns which isn’t in either of the top two pics. They are wearing the same coat and rucksack though but that might be the scummers uniform of choice.

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  9. Gkam84
    October 15, 2020 at 9:27 pm
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    Looks like the “extra

    Looks like the “extra screening” was actually Covid testing, I’ve seen a number of teams being tested after today’s stage

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  10. huntswheelers
    October 16, 2020 at 12:40 pm
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    James May needs to sort out

    James May needs to sort out that front brake cable….it’s routed incorrectly….. 

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Rendel Harris 8 minutes ago

@jaymack I know, sorry! I do accept they deserve some credit for not trying to pass it of as a DBDD but the evidence is so clear it would have been s scandal even by British justice vs cyclists standards if they'd gone for anything below manslaughter.

in: Killer motorist who drove into cyclist and knowingly dragged him under his car for over a mile, leaving a trail of blood, found guilty of murder
chrisonabike 10 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris yeah but it could have been spent on widening a few metres of road...

in: Serious cyclist injuries down 50% and overall road casualties continue to fall since 20mph limit introduced in Wales
Rome73 14 minutes ago

I have worked and socialised around Oxford street for decades. There has been major change in that time - as you would expect in a major metropolis. When I was young you could drive down the whole of Oxford St. When that was stopped everyone screamed the world was going to come to an end. Then it was narrowed in parts to a single lane, the pavements widened and New Oxford Street and Charing Cross road were closed to cars. Everyone screamed the world was going to come to an end. Then Tottenham Court Road was made two way!! And yes, you guessed it, the world was going to come to an end. Then cycle lanes were built all along Gower Street down to Shaftesbury Avenue and the taxi drivers went mental with rage, and the world was going to come to an end. Soho, where I worked for over 10 years, was slowly purged of through vehicles and every time a road was closed or made one way - the world was going to come to an end. But the pedestrian and cyclists increased and so did retail and bars. Thinking back to it, it’s crazy to remember how soho was once clogged with cars, all stuck in self imposed traffic, belching fumes and poison into the narrow streets - until ULEZ and road closures reduced all that. There are still too many motor vehicles in the central Oxford Street area. There should be zero, except for delivery vehicles at proscribed times.

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Rendel Harris 19 minutes ago

@slc Just read that comment to Mrs H, worryingly she looked thoughtful and said, "Mmm...how nice a bike are we talking here?"

in: Killer motorist who drove into cyclist and knowingly dragged him under his car for over a mile, leaving a trail of blood, found guilty of murder
Rendel Harris 22 minutes ago

@DrG82 The implementation costs were £32M and there has been an additional £3M spent on adjustments. It's estimated that the savings to the NHS and other bodies in terms of fewer casualties with which to deal come to around £44M. Odd economics where a £9M net saving is a waste of money.

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Mark Thompson 3 hours ago

@DrG82 is a liar. First off, who here said they got everything right? "I wouldn’t say that the Welsh government got everything right." The article contains commentary saying they didn't get everything right. I suppose saying something obviously true sets you up to lie later... "They applied the speed limit changes uniformly, without considering exceptions" You are a liar. The Welsh Government guidance contained rules that would allow councils to exempt roads from 20mph. As an example, much of my route into town stayed at 30 and 40mph because my council bothered to apply the exemptions. I particularly enjoyed your unsupported claim of "This has been a massive waste of money". The article states "collisions involving all road users on 20mph and 30mph are down 37 per cent, with casualties dropping by 35 per cent". I'd say a one-off cost of changing road signs for a permanent 1/3rd reduction in collisions is gonna save the taxpayer a chunk of healthcare costs and owners and businesses a chunk of money not fixing car bodywork. Nothing but contempt for you. Take your lies elsewhere.

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Oldblokey 8 hours ago

With so many people using and looking at mobie phones whilst driving and other distractions, may I suggest you always wear Hi viz and stay at home.

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kil0ran 8 hours ago

The design of the "car" has played a role in this. SUVs and what the Americans call "trucks" are exempt from the pedestrian safety regulations which apply to passenger cars. Had the victim been hit by a car designed in the past twenty years he would have been "scooped" onto the bonnet and either over the roof or off to one side. Still a serious injury risk and potentially fatal but they have the benefit of those passive safety systems to improve their chances. With vehicles with such a high bonnet line as this Volvo has what tends to happen is the person bounces off the bonnet and falls on the road in front of the vehicle where they're then run over. This has happened time and time again and is becoming more of an issue as the numbers of vehicles exempt from the safety standards grows.

in: Killer motorist who drove into cyclist and knowingly dragged him under his car for over a mile, leaving a trail of blood, found guilty of murder
whosatthewheel 10 hours ago

@Accessibility for all Reducing the speeds wouldn't have helped in this case as the driver was reported doing 65 in a 40 zone on the approach to the junction, his driving described by the witnesses as erratic and evidently had no intention to stop to give way even though he had been warned by the passenger who apparently shouted "bike" three times just before the collision. He would have likely flown through that junction even if it was traffic light controlled with a red light for him at the time. In my own experience the entire area i.e. east of Lymm towards Warburton and along Dunham Road all the way up to Altrincham and past into Hale Barns, all those wealthy, posh settlements around Manchester Airport are best avoided by road cyclists. A disproportionally high number of psycho drivers must for some reason live in that area because every single time I went there on my road bike in the past, I either got harassed myself or witnessed proper dickhead driving - speeding, close passes, overtaking into oncoming traffic or round a blind bend, accelerating towards pedestrians already crossing the road, you name it. I gave up road cycling in that area years ago and only use the local TPT these days.

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Hollis Jones 11 hours ago

In respect of the murder charge: based on him hitting Mr Mullins and making no attempt to help him (this killing him), how would the case compare to a hit and run driver who seriously injures or kills a cyclist, knowingly, and flees the scene without helping? Would this make the cut for a murder charge? Or is there something very different going on here that I’m missing? Genuinely curious because I don’t recall there being a murder charge before for this kind of thing unless it was premeditated. In fact, in my experience most cases like this seem to go the opposite way - where the driver can merely say the sun was in their eyes and get away with a slap on the hands.

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