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Jeremy Vine overtake 10 Feb 2022
Jeremy Vine overtake 10 Feb 2022 (screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine) (Image Credit: screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine)

Jeremy Vine says near miss was “closest I’ve come to dying on my bicycle”; Tour of Antalya calamity; Cav chalks up first victory of 2022; Why not walk or cycle? Because you ripped out the bike lane!; What’s a ‘carsplainer’? + more on the live blog

It’s Friday! Ryan Mallon kicks off today in the live blog hotseat, before Jack Sexty takes over in the afternoon to ease you into the weekend
  • by Ryan Mallon
Fri, Feb 11, 2022 09:44
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  • ‘Carsplaining’ – think it’ll catch on?
  • Jeremy Vine says high speed near miss was “the closest I've come to dying on my bicycle”
  • Cav takes debut win of 2022 in Oman – does the road to 35 begin here?
  • Very accurate…
  • French teams secure final Tour de France wildcard spots
  • How’s this for a bunnyhop, Mathieu?
  • Smartphone-controlled 'Bicycle Storage Pods' unveiled at New York's Grand Central Terminal to encourage cycling
  • Why don't cyclists use the cycle lane? Because it got ripped out, that's why
  • Why all the Highway Code fake news? Catch up with the road.cc Podcast
  • More reaction to Jeremy Vine's shocking footage
  • Instant karma from Down Under
  • UCI slammed after Tour of Antalya peloton forced to avoid police roadblock
Jeremy Vine overtake 10 Feb 2022
Jeremy Vine overtake 10 Feb 2022 (screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine) (Image Credit: screenshot via Twitter, Jeremy Vine)
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11 February 2022, 09:44

‘Carsplaining’ – think it’ll catch on?

We all know a particular kind of motorist, the one who usually pops up in the Daily Mail comments section or on talk radio to pontificate about how cyclists are always breaking red lights, riding 73-abreast, not paying road tax, and generally causing a menace on our roads and frightening defenceless, law-abiding car drivers.

Well, thanks to active travel campaigner Adam Bronkhorst, we now have a handy catch-all term for these motorists – ‘carsplainers’ (although I’m sure you could think of a few other terms).

According to Bronkhorst’s definition on Urban Dictionary, carsplaining is “when someone who never rides a bike explains road safety to cyclists”.

His example sentence is pretty spot on: “He doesn’t ride a bike but said, in true ‘carsplaining’ fashion, that ‘all cyclists need to do to be safe on the roads and avoid any ‘accidents’ is to follow the Highway Code’.”

I made another submission to @urbandictionary

CARSPLAINING – When someone who never rides a bike explains road safety to cyclists. pic.twitter.com/m1Sg7EvPvD

— Adam Bronkhorst (@AdamBronkhorst) February 10, 2022

It seems Adam’s definition immediately pushed the buttons of a few carsplainers:

Great example of the kind of nasty stereotyping that is used to belittle cyclists, and just helps create animosity on the roads thereby making them less safe.

— Adam Bronkhorst (@AdamBronkhorst) February 10, 2022

Others suggested helpful additions to his example sentence (presumably taken from the Big Book of Cycling Bingo beloved by road.cc readers):

You missed off the bit where they begin the sentence with “as a cyclist myself” 😅

— ALF (@Falco_ALF) February 10, 2022

Think it’ll catch on? And what other examples can you think of for carsplaining?

11 February 2022, 09:44

Jeremy Vine says high speed near miss was “the closest I've come to dying on my bicycle”

Not meaning to overdramatise — but having properly looked at this video, I now think it’s the closest I’ve come to dying on my bicycle since I started cycling in London ten years ago. And it shows that you can die without doing a single thing wrong, or ever knowing what hit you. https://t.co/HqDnIGTmQG

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) February 10, 2022

Just when you thought a taxi driver throwing a glass bottle at a cyclist would be the worst thing Jeremy Vine caught on camera this month…

The pedalling presenter’s commute to work, now captured on his 360 helmet cam, has acquainted him with many a dodgy driver over the past decade.

However, this near miss from yesterday morning, Vine says, is “the closest I’ve come to dying on my bicycle since I started cycling in London ten years ago”.

The footage – which is particularly shocking when viewed from the back – captures a driver speeding past a lorry in a 20mph zone as they approach Vine in the same lane. The motorist, who only seems to spot the broadcaster at the last second, dramatically swerves, narrowly avoiding both Vine and the lorry.

According to the Radio 2 presenter, this alarming near miss “shows that you can die without doing a single thing wrong, or ever knowing what hit you.”

11 February 2022, 09:44

Cav takes debut win of 2022 in Oman – does the road to 35 begin here?

Ladies and gentlemen, @MarkCavendish‘s 157th pro victory!

Photo: @GettySport pic.twitter.com/FBDaIB3mhB

— Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl Team (@qst_alphavinyl) February 11, 2022

That didn’t take long, did it?

After being thwarted by Fernando Gaviria in yesterday’s opening stage of the Tour of Oman, Mark Cavendish made sure that lightning didn’t strike twice, taking his first win of 2022 – and the 157th professional victory of his career – with what appeared to be a convincing victory on stage two.

I say ‘what appeared to be’ because – apart from a short video taken on the line by journalist Sophie Smith – we didn’t actually see any of the stage. While the helicopter missed the shot of the finish line yesterday, today it missed the entire race, meaning there was no live footage available for us online diehards.

Mark Cavendish wins stage two of the Tour of Oman. #TourofOman pic.twitter.com/qrlNrsJ8mr

— Sophie Smith (@SophieSmith86) February 11, 2022

Still a win’s a win, whether it’s on TV or not, and Cavendish will be pleased that his form appears to be on track as he attempts to convince QuickStep-Alpha Vinyl boss Patrick Lefevere to pick him for what could be a very historic Tour de France.

The omens look good: today’s stage in Oman was the Manx Missile’s earliest win since 2018 (or 2013, if you go by number of race days) and, with Gaviria finishing fourth on the day, means Cavendish takes over the race leader’s jersey.

The road to 35 might well now be under way – it’s just a pity barely anyone could see the beginning of it…

11 February 2022, 09:44

Very accurate…

How am currently feeling… pic.twitter.com/ycxhoLqCO9

— Thomas O. Cornwallis (@UrbanistTOC) February 11, 2022

11 February 2022, 09:44

French teams secure final Tour de France wildcard spots

💛 #TDF2022 team selection 💛

✅ The 18 UCI WorldTeams

✅ 🇧🇪@AlpecinFenix and 🇫🇷@Arkea_Samsic, 1st and 2nd placed UCI ProTeams in 2021

✅ 🇫🇷@BBHOTELS_KTM and 🇫🇷@TeamTotalEnrg, invited by the organizers.

🤩 See you in July! pic.twitter.com/WFbdyGUy1l

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) February 11, 2022

It seems to get earlier and earlier each year, but it’s that time already – the final two wildcard invitations to the 2022 Tour de France have been awarded!

And to the great surprise of many, two French teams – TotalEnergies and B&B Hotels p/b KTM – have filled the remaining non-WorldTour slots in the 22-team Tour peloton. Pro-Conti Alpecin-Fenix and Arkéa-Samsic were already automatically confirmed as wildcards owing to their position in the UCI rankings.

TotalEnergies, who have raced their home grand tour every year since 2000, were strengthened over the winter with the arrival of Peter Sagan, while Franck Bonnamour and new signing Alexis Gougeard will be under pressure to deliver for a now Bryan Coquard-less B&B Hotels.

Though the selection of two French squads by Tour organisers ASO is hardly a shock, some pundits and fans took to Twitter to express their disappointment that Uno-X missed out on a starting berth at cycling’s biggest race.

I think everyone agrees that Uno-X would be more attractive at the moment but yes French team, French race. Its the law

— José Been (@TourDeJose) February 11, 2022

The Norwegian team has eight Danish riders on its roster and, with the Tour’s Grand Départ taking place in Copenhagen this year, was targeting a spot on the start line after a strong 2021. As a consolation prize, ASO has invited Uno-X to June’s Critérium du Dauphiné, the traditional Tour warm-up race.

11 February 2022, 09:44

How’s this for a bunnyhop, Mathieu?

 
 
 
 
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Or should that be an alligator-hop?

11 February 2022, 09:44

Smartphone-controlled 'Bicycle Storage Pods' unveiled at New York's Grand Central Terminal to encourage cycling

If you’re one of a lot of cyclists who has fallen victim to theft or vandalism when leaving your bike unattended at lacklustre facilities at your local train station, you might be looking on in envy at these new bike pods installed at Grand Central in New York. 

Janno Leiber, the chair of New York’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority, says the pods will help encourage commuters to consider making that “last mile connection” by bike rather than using less efficient transportation. 

The pods appear to have racks for multiple bikes, and users unlock it with their smartphone. Let’s hope no particularly enterprising thieves decide to sign up and take their pick from what’s inside… 

11 February 2022, 09:44

Why don't cyclists use the cycle lane? Because it got ripped out, that's why

cycle lane removal sign bolton - credit Henry Lisowski
cycle lane removal sign bolton - credit Henry Lisowski (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
cycle lane removal sign bolton - credit Henry Lisowski
cycle lane removal sign bolton – credit Henry Lisowski (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

This tongue-in-cheek addition to a sign encouraging Bolton locals to walk and cycle is in referenced to the region’s underwhelming active travel campaign, after a widened cycle lane with wands segregating it was removed from Chorley New Road after it proved unpopular with angry residents/people who want to drive everywhere. 

According to the Bolton News, the original sign was put in around the time the segregated cycle lane was installed with cash from the Emergency Active Travel scheme, that saw extra cycling and walking provisions built across the country as part of the pandemic response. 

Unfortunately this one was an example of on that was ripped out due to a backlash, such as the Old Shoreham Cycle Lane in Hove. The council says it doesn’t intend to reinstall the cycle lane despite the sign suggesting at least one resident thinks the removal is somewhat contradictory. 

Cllr Andy Morgan told Bolton News: “Following the consultation in regards to the cycle lanes on Chorley Old Road, we removed the orca wands in light of what the majority of the public wanted.

“We weren’t going to go back on doing it after people pushed for it to be removed.

“We encourage people to still cycle because cycle lanes are still there and are a lot bigger.

“The orca wands blocked the roads when turning right and cause a lot of traffic congestion.

“I have laughed about the sign though, which is quite comical.”

Almost as comical as your active travel scheme, Cllr Morgan… 

Photo: Henry Lisowski

11 February 2022, 09:44

Why all the Highway Code fake news? Catch up with the road.cc Podcast

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podcast-1500-episode18 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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podcast-1500-episode18 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

On episode 18 we’re chatting those all important Highway Code changes, and Mat gets to nerd out on cycling shoes with Alex Malone of Bont. 

Simon also talks to Tim Lennon of the Richmond Cycling Campaign, who talks about the bizarre media coverage after this shocking video of a close pass on his daughter did the rounds on Twitter:

Why would anyone be this much of a shit to an adult, let alone a little girl?! Why is getting in front worth that?
(Video: @lucullus) pic.twitter.com/5avckGgfLD

— Rory Meakin (@rorymeakin) February 2, 2022

Catch up with the episode over here. 

11 February 2022, 09:44

More reaction to Jeremy Vine's shocking footage

Not meaning to overdramatise — but having properly looked at this video, I now think it’s the closest I’ve come to dying on my bicycle since I started cycling in London ten years ago. And it shows that you can die without doing a single thing wrong, or ever knowing what hit you. https://t.co/HqDnIGTmQG

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) February 10, 2022

This is the argument I make often against the use of mirrors. Do you really wham to see what’s going on behind you? And would it make a difference?

— Righttobikeit (@righttobikeit) February 10, 2022

From the front view I thought you were being overdramatic. From the rear I see your point. I don’t think he saw you late, it was just haste to undertake the lorry.

— James Metcalfe (@JamesMe08634687) February 11, 2022

Christ, that’s horrendous. And not overdramatizing at all.

— Ellie Pyemont 🚢🧡 (@elliepyemont) February 10, 2022

The broadcaster’s footage doesn’t at first look like one of the worst pieces of driving we’ve seen in our Near Miss of the Day series over the years – but from behind it makes for particularly troubling viewing. 

Another of Vine’s recent recordings has been pulled from Twitter as the police are now involved. Hopefully they catch up with the driver in the above clip too… 

Please note. This film has been removed because the driver is now subject to police action. pic.twitter.com/FjJKhDYeyT

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) February 10, 2022

11 February 2022, 09:44

Instant karma from Down Under

This Aussie cyclist was miffed to have to stop for a driver turning left into a side road, despite the pretty clear ‘no left turn’ arrow. 

As you’ll see from the rear camera in the second half of the clip, it looks like they were dealt with by an officer in the right place at the right time.

The poster added: “Unfortunately this enforcement is very sporadic and doesn’t scale very well. That road goes to the freeway, so the cop can’t just turn back and quickly do it again. They need to do a big loop so tend to only do it once or twice a day, probably at the end of their shift on the way back to the station.” 

11 February 2022, 09:44

UCI slammed after Tour of Antalya peloton forced to avoid police roadblock

🇹🇷#TourofAntalya

Thank us later, @OutOfCycling! 😏 pic.twitter.com/loqt9DSROa

— ABLOC Continental Team (@ABLOC_CT) February 11, 2022

Don’t think this was part of the course? Somehow race organisers didn’t manage to communicate that something was clearly occurring up ahead, and an oblivious peloton just about managed to steer itself over a grass verge and onto the other side of the road to avoid a major pile-up. 

A cheeky impromptu gravel section or simply an organisational cock-up of the highest order? We reckon this just about sums up what happened during the route planning for this stage… 

The stage route map: https://t.co/NchChW0OHp pic.twitter.com/7GgLZtNlyd

— Belinda (@reallyspoketome) February 11, 2022

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  1. Rendel Harris
    February 11, 2022 at 10:03 am
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    We all know a particular kind

    We all know a particular kind of motorist, the one who usually pops up in the Daily Mail comments section, trolling Road.cc or on talk radio to pontificate about how cyclists are always breaking red lights, riding 73-abreast, not paying road tax, and generally causing a menace on our roads and frightening defenceless, law-abiding car drivers.

    FTFY.

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    • Mungecrundle
      February 11, 2022 at 10:35 am
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      Don’t forget T(i)Tsplaining
      Don’t forget T(i)Tsplaining which is when an annoying, ignorant tit pontificates about the dangers of time trial bikes.

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      • Clem Fandango
        February 11, 2022 at 11:39 am
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        Mungecrundle wrote:

        Don’t forget T(i)Tsplaining which is when an annoying, ignorant tit pontificates about the dangers of time trial bikes.

        — Mungecrundle

        There’s also the trollsplainer that pontificates in stereotyped, often misogynistic and racist terms about cycling/cyclists and certain cities, whilst simulatneously thinking they are either a) somehow correct, b)  somehow funny or c) somehow the victim of cyberbullying

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        • ktache
          February 11, 2022 at 8:44 pm
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          Don’t forget their obsession

          Don’t forget their obsession with any excess weight…

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          • andystow
            February 11, 2022 at 9:20 pm
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            ktache wrote:

            Don’t forget their obsession with any excess weight…

            — ktache

            Unless that excess weight is choosing an oversized vehicle, in which case it’s fine and doesn’t damage roads as much as a bicycle would.

  2. Garage at Large
    February 11, 2022 at 10:11 am
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    I think “carsplainer” is a
    I think “carsplainer” is a perfectly good term, and one that adequately describes someone who drives but doesn’t ride a bike.

    Of course, there are also cyclists who choose to ride rather than ever walk in pedestrianised zones. What should those people be dubbed? I vote for:

    “Cyclesplaining”
    When someone (typically white, middle class, rotund and male) rides a bike antisocially and dangerously, yet simultaneously thinks they are virtuous and environmentally conscious.

    “Mike nearly ploughed in to Gladys, 90, at the shopping centre today, but instead of apologising he cyclesplained ‘get back to your resthome you old hag, I’m saving the planet!'”

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    • perce
      February 11, 2022 at 11:22 am
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      There are some mushrooms

      There are some mushrooms growing in my back garden. I think I’ll go and watch them for a bit

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    • lesterama
      February 11, 2022 at 12:49 pm
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      It posts like a trollsplainer

      It posts like a trollsplainer

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    • Jetmans Dad
      February 11, 2022 at 2:24 pm
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      Garage at Large wrote:

      “Mike nearly ploughed in to Gladys, 90, at the shopping centre today, but instead of apologising he cyclesplained ‘get back to your resthome you old hag, I’m saving the planet!'”

      — Garage at Large

      I am currently on the fence over whether you are actually just here to get a response or are genuinely just a deeply unpleasant person who I am glad I don’t have to deal with in real life. 

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      • Garage at Large
        February 11, 2022 at 2:28 pm
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        Jetmans Dad wrote:

        I am currently on the fence over whether you are actually just here to get a response or are genuinely just a deeply unpleasant person who I am glad I don’t have to deal with in real life. 

        — Jetmans Dad

        False dichotomy there – I could be both.

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        • brooksby
          February 11, 2022 at 3:15 pm
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          Garage at Large wrote:

          I am currently on the fence over whether you are actually just here to get a response or are genuinely just a deeply unpleasant person who I am glad I don’t have to deal with in real life. 

          — Garage at Large

          False dichotomy there – I could be both.

          — Jetmans Dad

          Y’know – that needs to be saved as a screenshot for posterity.

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          • chrisonabike
            February 11, 2022 at 3:25 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            I am currently on the fence over whether you are actually just here to get a response or are genuinely just a deeply unpleasant person who I am glad I don’t have to deal with in real life. 

            — brooksby

            False dichotomy there – I could be both.

            — Garage at Large

            Y’know – that needs to be saved as a screenshot for posterity.

            — Jetmans Dad

            He’s not the Messiah and he’s a very naughty boy.

          • Jimwill
            February 12, 2022 at 12:50 am
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            I personally think he’s just
            I personally think he’s just a ? end

          • IanMSpencer
            February 12, 2022 at 1:06 am
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            I will rescue you from your
            I will rescue you from your more accurate original being in the latest post across the site 😉

    • efail
      February 11, 2022 at 2:38 pm
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      There We Are Then.
      There We Are Then.

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  3. Steve K
    February 11, 2022 at 10:25 am
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    A couple of years ago, I was

    A couple of years ago, I was knocked off my bike.  I wasn’t wearing a helmet and I had a minor head injury (a cut that needed glueing, but no concussion).  When I posted on Facebook about it, I got loads of comments that I should have been wearing a helmet.

    Today, I saw on Facebook that a friend on mine was in a black cab which was involved in an RTA yesterday.  He was flung forward and has some minor injuries as a result.  Lots of sympathetic comments on facebook, and not a single person said he should have been wearing a seat belt.

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    • Garage at Large
      February 11, 2022 at 10:38 am
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      You should have been wearing
      You should have been wearing a helmet, the wisdom of crowds was correct.

      People assume that if you’re in a car you’re wearing a seatbelt, as it is against the law not to wear one and has very high compliance – was it stated anywhere that your friend wasn’t wearing one?

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      • Steve K
        February 11, 2022 at 10:55 am
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        Well done on missing the

        Well done on missing the point.  It was clear from his description of the incident that he was not wearing one.

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        • I love my bike
          February 11, 2022 at 7:13 pm
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          The friend should have been

          The friend should have been wearing a helmet. If it prevents only one . . .

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      • wycombewheeler
        February 11, 2022 at 11:00 am
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        Garage at Large wrote:

        You should have been wearing a helmet, the wisdom of crowds was correct. People assume that if you’re in a car you’re wearing a seatbelt, as it is against the law not to wear one and has very high compliance – was it stated anywhere that your friend wasn’t wearing one?

        — Garage at Large

        Wisdom of the crowds when woefuly overestimating the eficacy of cycle helmets.

        groupthink – when no one agrees with the total bollocks you write here about just aout any subject.

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    • Tom_77
      February 11, 2022 at 12:43 pm
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      Taxi drivers don’t have to

      Taxi drivers don’t have to wear seat belts:

      https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-need-to-wear-a-seat-belt

       

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      • SimoninSpalding
        February 11, 2022 at 1:05 pm
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        But their passengers do, and
        But their passengers do, and the cabbie shares responsibility for ensuring they do.

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      • OnYerBike
        February 11, 2022 at 2:52 pm
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        Tom_77 wrote:

        Taxi drivers don’t have to wear seat belts:

        https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-need-to-wear-a-seat-belt

        — Tom_77

        I did not know that. It seems like an odd exemption.

        It also misses the point of Steve’s annocdote – whether or not there was a legal requirement to wear one, the point was that the driver chose not to wear it, received (presumably) more serious injuries as a result, and yet no-one felt it necessary or appropriate to comment on how the driver’s personal safety choices may or may not have contributed to the injuries. 

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        • TriTaxMan
          February 11, 2022 at 3:10 pm
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          OnYerBike wrote:

          I did not know that. It seems like an odd exemption.

          It also misses the point of Steve’s annocdote – whether or not there was a legal requirement to wear one, the point was that the driver chose not to wear it, received (presumably) more serious injuries as a result, and yet no-one felt it necessary or appropriate to comment on how the driver’s personal safety choices may or may not have contributed to the injuries. 

          — OnYerBike

          I think it actually proves the point of Steve’s annecdote precisely…. something our resident troll has completely missed.

          If a cyclist is involved in an accident and they are not wearing a helmet, motorist friends and trolls will criticise the cyclist for not wearing a helmet which they are not required to do…. because it might have stopped an injury, emphasis on the word might.

          Yet a motorist who is involved in an accident where they are not wearing a seabelt, even if they were not legally obliged to wear one, their motorist friends will not say “well if you had been wearing your seatbelt…..”

          This despite evidence that a significant number of road deaths are down to drivers still failing to wear their seatbelt…..  for example “Figures show 13 per cent of those killed on Scotland’s roads over the last five years were not wearing a seatbelt. Despite this, new research reveals that almost one in ten drivers always drive a car without wearing a seatbelt.  A survey found that drivers think drink-driving, drug-driving, using a phone while driving, driving while fatigued and driving aggressively are all ‘riskier’ than not wearing a seatbelt while driving.”

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          • wycombewheeler
            February 11, 2022 at 4:17 pm
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            TriTaxMan wrote:

            This despite evidence that a significant number of road deaths are down to drivers still failing to wear their seatbelt…..  for example “Figures show 13 per cent of those killed on Scotland’s roads over the last five years were not wearing a seatbelt. Despite this, new research reveals that almost one in ten drivers always drive a car without wearing a seatbelt.  A survey found that drivers think drink-driving, drug-driving, using a phone while driving, driving while fatigued and driving aggressively are all ‘riskier’ than not wearing a seatbelt while driving.”

            — TriTaxMan

            They would probably be right then, as not wearing a seatbelt seems to increase chance of death in an collision by about a third (from your figures), while those other things will increase the chance of collision by more than a third, collisions which could affect not just the seatbelt user, but others around them.

          • Rendel Harris
            February 11, 2022 at 4:36 pm
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            wycombewheeler wrote:

            “Figures show 13 per cent of those killed on Scotland’s roads over the last five years were not wearing a seatbelt. Despite this, new research reveals that almost one in ten drivers always drive a car without wearing a seatbelt.”

            — wycombewheeler

            They would probably be right then, as not wearing a seatbelt seems to increase chance of death in an collision by about a third (from your figures)

            — TriTaxMan

            Not exactly, because we don’t know how many of those dead were drivers and how many passengers. At a pure guess I would assume more passengers die in crashes as drivers tend to have more airbag protection, but that is just a guess.

          • TriTaxMan
            February 11, 2022 at 4:52 pm
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            Not exactly, because we don’t know how many of those dead were drivers and how many passengers. At a pure guess I would assume more passengers die in accidents as drivers tend to have more airbag protection, but that is just a guess.

            — Rendel Harris

            The thing being it has been shown that without a seatbelt serious and fatal injuries can still occur, and can sometimes be made worse by the airbags.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLCWGcNpY94 this video (at 2:35) shows the effects of a crash at 64 kmh with and without seatbelts…. and the results are shocking.

          • wycombewheeler
            February 11, 2022 at 9:48 pm
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            “Figures show 13 per cent of those killed on Scotland’s roads over the last five years were not wearing a seatbelt. Despite this, new research reveals that almost one in ten drivers always drive a car without wearing a seatbelt.”

            — Rendel Harris

            They would probably be right then, as not wearing a seatbelt seems to increase chance of death in an collision by about a third (from your figures)

            — wycombewheeler

            Not exactly, because we don’t know how many of those dead were drivers and how many passengers. At a pure guess I would assume more passengers die in crashes as drivers tend to have more airbag protection, but that is just a guess.

            — TriTaxMan

            every car ina  colission has a driver, but not all have passengers. I’d be surprised if more deaths were from passengers than drivers.

            Also their reluctance to wear a seatbelt would be the same if the were a driver or a passenger. I wonder if car in crashes are more likely to be single ossupant, or multiple occupant.

        • Rendel Harris
          February 11, 2022 at 3:37 pm
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          OnYerBike wrote:

          Taxi drivers don’t have to wear seat belts:

          https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-need-to-wear-a-seat-belt

          — OnYerBike

          I did not know that. It seems like an odd exemption.

          — Tom_77

          It comes from the days before screens became the norm, when the taxi trade complained that if drivers had to wear a seatbelt passengers could use it to pin them down and demand their money. It’s now an anachronism, given the prevalence of safety screens and the cashless society, but it’s never been changed.

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          • mdavidford
            February 11, 2022 at 3:39 pm
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            It’s now an anachronism, given […] the cashless society

            — Rendel Harris

            They could still pin them down and demand a 5 star rating.

          • wycombewheeler
            February 11, 2022 at 4:24 pm
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            Taxi drivers don’t have to wear seat belts:

            https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-need-to-wear-a-seat-belt

            — Rendel Harris

            I did not know that. It seems like an odd exemption.

            — OnYerBike

            It comes from the days before screens became the norm, when the taxi trade complained that if drivers had to wear a seatbelt passengers could use it to pin them down and demand their money. It’s now an anachronism, given the prevalence of safety screens and the cashless society, but it’s never been changed.

            — Tom_77

            Or that or because the standard of driving is higher so they don’t need seat belts.

            yeah, probably not the second one.

      • wycombewheeler
        February 11, 2022 at 4:21 pm
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        Tom_77 wrote:

        Taxi drivers don’t have to wear seat belts:

        https://www.gov.uk/seat-belts-law/when-you-dont-need-to-wear-a-seat-belt

         

        — Tom_77

        a passenger in a trade vehicle and you’re investigating a fault

        I wasn’t wearing a seatbelt as we were investigating a potential fault with the brakes 

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    • Daveyraveygravey
      February 11, 2022 at 1:10 pm
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      Steve K wrote:

      A couple of years ago, I was knocked off my bike.  I wasn’t wearing a helmet and I had a minor head injury (a cut that needed glueing, but no concussion).  When I posted on Facebook about it, I got loads of comments that I should have been wearing a helmet.

      Today, I saw on Facebook that a friend on mine was in a black cab which was involved in an RTA yesterday.  He was flung forward and has some minor injuries as a result.  Lots of sympathetic comments on facebook, and not a single person said he should have been wearing a seat belt.

      — Steve K

       

      Hadn’t thought of the seatbelt, I thought you were going to say statisically you are more likely to bang your head in a car (or your bath) than on a bike, so where was his car helmet?

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      • Steve K
        February 11, 2022 at 4:01 pm
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        Well, that too.

        Well, that too.

        But my point was we both had minor injuries, and both were blameless.  Responses to him were all sympathetic; but to me they blamed me for lack of PPE.  Yet he was the one who was required by law to have the PPE (he was a passenger, not the driver). 

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        • TriTaxMan
          February 11, 2022 at 4:18 pm
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          Steve K wrote:

          Well, that too.

          But my point was we both had minor injuries, and both were blameless.  Responses to him were all sympathetic; but to me they blamed me for lack of PPE.  Yet he was the one who was required by law to have the PPE (he was a passenger, not the driver). 

          — Steve K

          I feel the response given to you can be summed up by the phrase….. “but cyclists…..”

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  4. eburtthebike
    February 11, 2022 at 11:03 am
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    The Vine vid is truly

    The Vine vid is truly terrifying from the back, and I’m hoping that this driver has been reported for multiple offences.

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    • hawkinspeter
      February 11, 2022 at 11:14 am
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      eburtthebike wrote:

      The Vine vid is truly terrifying from the back, and I’m hoping that this driver has been reported for multiple offences.

      — eburtthebike

      Are we sure that Vine didn’t deliberately antagonise that driver into doing that just so that he’d have something to post?

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    • tarquin_foxglove
      February 11, 2022 at 12:33 pm
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      Yet another reason why I don

      Yet another reason why I don’t run cameras.

      On the road, you’d go ‘arsehole’ & forget about it.

      But when you came home & put together the video to show how close you’d been to being hit, it’d bring it all back & you’d be reluctant to go out for a ride on that route again. Which would be a pain if it was your commute.

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      • hawkinspeter
        February 11, 2022 at 1:16 pm
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        tarquin_foxglove wrote:

        Yet another reason why I don’t run cameras.

        On the road, you’d go ‘arsehole’ & forget about it.

        But when you came home & put together the video to show how close you’d been to being hit, it’d bring it all back & you’d be reluctant to go out for a ride on that route again. Which would be a pain if it was your commute.

        — tarquin_foxglove

        I get what you’re saying, but the other aspect is that without a camera, you could be unknowingly riding a route that has bad drivers/junctions etc.

        It’s similar to arguing that if you don’t go to the doctor then you can continue living as you wish rather than e.g. taking blood pressure medication or changing your diet.

        However, sometimes it’s better to not focus on the possible dangers – cycling is mainly a safe activity.

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    • Rendel Harris
      February 11, 2022 at 2:21 pm
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      Knowing the area and looking

      Knowing the area and looking at the timings on the video, at a back-of-an-envelope calculation I reckon s/he’s doing 41 mp/h in a 20 zone, add in the use of the bus lane to make an undertake and it should be a Band F, punishable by a fine of up to 7x weekly wage for starters. If they drive like that they’re unlikely to have a clean licence either, so hopefully the points will get them a ban too.

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    • TriTaxMan
      February 11, 2022 at 2:38 pm
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      eburtthebike wrote:

      The Vine vid is truly terrifying from the back, and I’m hoping that this driver has been reported for multiple offences.

      — eburtthebike

      The comments on his twitter feed are also terrifying – All these are from one person

      • The driver was probably late for an important meeting or personal issue. These things happen. Sometimes we have to step on the accelerator to pick up the pace a bit.
      • Let’s just relax. I’m just saying who knows the reasons why the driver was going so quickly. They seemed to handle the situation pretty well though.
      • That’s why I said sometimes we have to bend the rules from time to time
      • Nipping in and out of a bus lane. Creeping over the speed limit now and again
      • Who knows? Sometimes a good tune or beat makes me go a bit faster so it could be that?
      • Was a sneaky move I have to say. It paid off though.

       

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  5. Kendalred
    February 11, 2022 at 12:00 pm
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    Good see Cav back to winning

    Good see Cav back to winning ways. However I think the ‘road to 35’ may have a rather significant obstruction – one that is Fabio Jackobsen shaped.

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    • mdavidford
      February 11, 2022 at 12:09 pm
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      Nothing that a little

      Nothing that a little training ‘accident’ knocking into Jakobsen’s handlebars couldn’t fix. 

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      • vthejk
        February 11, 2022 at 1:21 pm
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        mdavidford wrote:

        Nothing that a little training ‘accident’ knocking into Jakobsen’s handlebars couldn’t fix. 

        — mdavidford

        Given that this is Jakobsen who nearly died in a crash two years, this is in slightly poor taste, no?

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        • mdavidford
          February 11, 2022 at 2:11 pm
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          vthejk wrote:

          Nothing that a little training ‘accident’ knocking into Jakobsen’s handlebars couldn’t fix. 

          — vthejk

          Given that this is Jakobsen who nearly died in a crash two years, this is in slightly poor taste, no?

          — mdavidford

          I had forgotten that that had happened to him. To be fair, though, I wasn’t implying anything worse than causing him a niggling knee problem. If I had been, then surely it would be in bad taste whoever the subject of it was?

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          • vthejk
            February 11, 2022 at 3:49 pm
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            mdavidford wrote:

            I had forgotten that that had happened to him. To be fair, though, I wasn’t implying anything worse than causing him a niggling knee problem. If I had been, then surely it would be in bad taste whoever the subject of it was?

            — mdavidford

            No, I’m sure the actual intention behind that comment wasn’t malicious, but reading it and thinking “Hmm, Jakobsen? Make him crash, again? By pushing him by the handlebars?” It just Seemed a little extreme is all. 

          • mdavidford
            February 11, 2022 at 3:56 pm
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            Fair enough – I can see how

            Fair enough – I can see how it might have been misinterpreted to mean that.

  6. vthejk
    February 11, 2022 at 1:21 pm
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    Yesbutter: Those who

    Yesbutter: Those who instantly cry ‘Yes, but…’ when faced with any argument against themselves or something they have done wrong.

    eg: Person on a cycle: “You overtook me too close on this narrow road.”

    Person in a car: “Yes, but a cyclist jumped a red light 5 years ago and I saw them; therefore, you deserved it.”

    Feel free to mine this thread for some more excellent examples of the above.

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  7. squired
    February 11, 2022 at 4:43 pm
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    On the one hand, the repeated

    On the one hand, the repeated selection of French wildcards is understandable, but it is also holding the sport back.  If you are a non-French (or Italian or Spanish) sponsor, do you really want to fund a team to ProConti level when you know you have virtually no chance of getting a wildcard at one of the grand tours, unless you manage to finish first in the rankings?

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  8. Secret_squirrel
    February 12, 2022 at 9:40 pm
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    Cavs just posted some decent

    Cavs just posted some decent footage of his stage 2 win.   Stunning sprint – comes from nowhere.

    https://twitter.com/markcavendish/status/1492566608442630146?s=21
     

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“I had a full headache and thought this is going to be a long day”: Cool, calm Tadej Pogačar looking forward to less stress and less media after losing Tour de France lead to breakaway
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Schwalbe Romy Trail Pro Soft Radial Folding TLR
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Avinox-powered Nukeproof Kilowatt launches in time for Eurobike… and prices start at just £3,999
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Avinox’s MG Concept brings CVT-style gears to an e-MTB motor
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Megamo’s RYAL e-MTB is set to bring Avinox motors to a friendlier price point with models starting at £3,999
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The “world’s first AI solar e-bike” is coming to Kickstarter, with double-disc wheels featuring integrated solar panels for extra range
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A V Lowe 1 hour ago

I attended this inquest & was appalled at the poor way that evidences was handled Venera was rammed from behind by the truck driver who had barely reached 12 mph The coroner was told that there was another (untraced) vehicle ahead of the truck that hit Venera as this traffic moved away Venera was a fit regular cyclist riding Stratford to City of London on fixed wheel - no evidence was presented to indicate her typical average speed for this journey (it woiuld have been significantly faster than 12mph!). No evidence was presented concerning the vehicle travelling in front of the truck The circulating traffic on the roundabout routinely runs the red lights cutting across cycle traffic as much as 10 seconds after the cycle traffic gets a green light - I have a picture of the green light for cycle traffic shining through the windows of a bus that has been driven through the red signal

in: Coroner concludes Venera Minakhmetova died after riding through red light at Bow Roundabout
Cayo 4 hours ago

re: occasions when police needlessly pavement park... You only need to watch Police Interceptors and the like to see how unbothered they are. Usually, when they pull over a motorist, said driver mounts the pavement (and cop often does the same), yet there's never any mention of the illegality* or needless manner of their parking. (*Highway Code infraction, even if not against the law in the location being shown). I'm very much pro-Police, but that particular issue only serves to normalise pavement parking.

in: “You scream and shout, but they just chuckle”: Cyclist feels helpless about bike theft in London; E-bikes seized by council to tackle bad parking; Transitional stage set to bring new race leader at Tour de France + more on the live blog
Cayo 4 hours ago

(Before the days of blatent angle grinder use) At my first job, my boss wouldn't allow me to bring my bike indoors, despite there being room. I had to lock it to the railings on a busy street. Came out one night to find it still there... but with signs of attempted theft. Unable to defeat the lock, they'd cut my cables (clearly with proper cutters), purely out of spite😠 Nothing missing - they'd just been petty. At least it persuaded my boss to relent: bike was indoors after that.

in: “You scream and shout, but they just chuckle”: Cyclist feels helpless about bike theft in London; E-bikes seized by council to tackle bad parking; Transitional stage set to bring new race leader at Tour de France + more on the live blog
leedorney 5 hours ago

I can only guess what it's been like in Europe but it's been hot in the UK for 2nd time right now, 1st time hot now similar tho after the 1st that got you used to it with a smack in the face. I said to a friend, after I rode in the day when it was about 25'c air temp when riding, it saps your energy, tho I used to race in the evenings with high temps 🤷

in: “It was a war zone”: Tom Pidcock shocked by ‘hardest ever’ Tour de France heat – but rival sports director says “that’s cycling, you can’t complain about that s***”
Jigzy99 5 hours ago

Enjoyed this and might go down the same route. My Tripster AT is 8 years old in Arran Blue, still gets comments. It’s my no.2 bike - 650B wheels it’s a MTB, 700c it’s commuter, tourer and winter road bike. Just a bit bored of it!

in: Reduce, reuse, recycle, respray: How I breathed new life into my very well-used Kinesis Tripster
Pub bike 6 hours ago

@chrisonabike And just imagine if you have a dynamo as well what the maths looks like.

in: No mention of electric motorbikes? Police seize “illegal e-bikes” which can reach 72mph; Le Col write off £8 million in debt; First Minister wants Wales to be “world-leading destination” for cyclo-tourists; Tour de France sprint + more on the live blog
Pub bike 6 hours ago

@chrisonabike You can vary the assistance level on an e-bike so does that mean you can be for example 75% cyclist and 25% motorcyclist?

in: No mention of electric motorbikes? Police seize “illegal e-bikes” which can reach 72mph; Le Col write off £8 million in debt; First Minister wants Wales to be “world-leading destination” for cyclo-tourists; Tour de France sprint + more on the live blog
quiff 6 hours ago

This bike is on grass, what's it doing on road.cc, etc etc

in: Moustache Xroad FS 6
quiff 6 hours ago

But I should have added I enjoyed this piece (pee-ce?)

in: The day I got peed on at the Tour de France
quiff 6 hours ago

@Jack Sexty that was an intentional (if obtuse) nod to another typo in the article: "Expect this time, I couldn’t even wave an angry fist..."

in: The day I got peed on at the Tour de France

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