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Live blog: The disappearing (and reappearing) world time trial champion; Brailsford says Froome is back on his bike, pedalling with one leg; French drivers to lose licences for using phone at the wheel; Phil Liggett’s tribute to Paul Sherwen + more

All the cycling news from this site and beyond…
  • by Alex Bowden
Thu, Jul 18, 2019 20:31
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SUMMARY

  • The Tour hits the Pyrenees
  • Here's the route
  • "Better late than never"...
  • French drivers could lose driving licences for using mobile phone at the wheel
  • Great Paul Sherwen tribute in yesterday's pre-tour coverage
  • Team I-NO/YES (delete as appropriate)
  • Still no break
  • There's a break. Sagan's in it
  • But will they still be racing when they're old?
  • "He's sat on a bike and pedalling with one leg"
  • Tour latest - Calmejane leads
  • Oh dear...
  • Time trial world champion goes awol midway through stage, the day before the individual time trial
  • We think he's turned up
  • Things have been a bit tense, apparently
  • Simon Yates wins stage 12
  • Hartlepool cyclist hospitalised after car passenger pushed him off
  • G tries his hand as a tipster
  • Nothing to see here...
  • Cervelo launches first gravel bike
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18 July 2019, 20:31

The Tour hits the Pyrenees

Why so serious, we are going to climb on the Pyrenees today! @LeTour @BORAGmbH @Hansgrohe_PR @iamspecialized @sportful @ride100percent (Photo @bettiniphoto) pic.twitter.com/Vbmli2Ucgr

— Peter Sagan (@petosagan) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

Here's the route

Stage 12 / Étape 12

Toulouse –  Bagnères-de-Bigorre

 Discover the 3D route of Stage 12.
 Découvrez le parcours 3D de l’Étape 12.#TDF2019 pic.twitter.com/iKQCR5eTPq

— Tour de France (@LeTour) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

"Better late than never"...

Better late than never! The 2011 @lavuelta holds some very special memories for me pic.twitter.com/j0zk3LGsGD

— Chris Froome (@chrisfroome) July 18, 2019

Chris Froome wins the 2011 Vuelta with a broken leg. Full story here.

18 July 2019, 20:31

French drivers could lose driving licences for using mobile phone at the wheel

A recent poll found that 70 per cent of French motorists admit to having used their mobiles while driving. Another poll found that six per cent use their phones while driving on the motorway, including 15 per cent of truck drivers.

The Telegraph reports that a new measure, due to be introduced in autumn, would see driving licences confiscated if a driver is found to have broken a traffic rule while using their mobile phone at the wheel.

“If you forget to put your indicator on, which is very frequent among people on the phone, or drive over a white line a Stop sign or go through a red light, all these offences when coupled with using a mobile will allow police to confiscate your licence,” said French road safety boss, Emmanuel Barbe.

“We don’t wish to deprive anyone of their licence for months on end,” he added, implying that in most cases the confiscation would only be temporary.

A 2017 RAC survey found that up to nine million drivers could be habitually using their phones at the wheel in the UK.

Offenders currently face six penalty points and a £200 fine, but this can rise to £1,000 and a driving ban with a court appearance (£2,500 for lorry or bus drivers).

18 July 2019, 20:31

Great Paul Sherwen tribute in yesterday's pre-tour coverage

If you only watch one thing from our coverage of @LeTour please make it this@PhilLiggett leads our tribute to the late, great Paul Sherwen#TDF2019 #MerciPaul pic.twitter.com/XGegEhp57g

— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) July 17, 2019

We watched this on ITV4 before yesterday’s stage and were hoping it would be shared again for those who missed it – Phil Liggett leads an excellent tribute to his friend of four decades and relives some of their best moments as Tour co-commentators. 

18 July 2019, 20:31

Team I-NO/YES (delete as appropriate)

Six months ago long-time fan Daniel asked if there was any way we would be able to help him propose to partner Sarah at the Tour.

We’ll see what we can do, we said… pic.twitter.com/61CmRpTxKK

— Team INEOS (@TeamINEOS) July 18, 2019

If this was the proposal, we wonder what the actual wedding will look like? Yellow dress? Cake shaped like Alpe d’Huez or maybe the groomsmen in polka dot suits…

18 July 2019, 20:31

Still no break

Thirty kilometres after the start, sill no breakaways!
Trente kilomètres après le départ, toujours pas d’échappée ! #TDF2019 pic.twitter.com/lqrY12B1fj

— Tour de France (@LeTour) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

There's a break. Sagan's in it

 BOOH !

 When @petosagan jokes with the public.

 Quand Peter Sagan s’amuse avec le public.#TDF2019 pic.twitter.com/TYbru1081v

— Tour de France (@LeTour) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

But will they still be racing when they're old?

There’s thing going around the internet at the moment to use an app to see how old you will look in 60 years time. And here are some racers currently hurtling around France

The British riders have aged well https://t.co/SLILkeIfHy pic.twitter.com/Ct4YJhgZqQ

— Le Tour de France UK (@letour_uk) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

"He's sat on a bike and pedalling with one leg"

We mentioned Chris Froome being ‘back on his bike’ in our piece about him being awarded the 2011 Vuelta earlier.

Here’s Brailsford confirming it.

“He’s pedalling with one leg”

Great news to hear on @ChrisFroome‘s road to recovery #TDF2019

— Eurosport UK (@Eurosport_UK) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

Tour latest - Calmejane leads

Lilian Calmejane leads the way to the Pyrenees, averaging 43.6km/h in the first 140km of stage 12.

The gap to the peloton has increased in the Col de Peyresourde: 6'44" with 64km to go.#TDF2019 #TDFdata pic.twitter.com/wUuzKmyViT

— letourdata (@letourdata) July 18, 2019

The Total Direct Energie rider is leading the way, with the peloton almost seven minutes back. 

18 July 2019, 20:31

Oh dear...

You guys had one job #sbstdf #couchpeloton pic.twitter.com/J7MV04Ym0H

— Bugwan (@bugwan) July 18, 2019

Were the riders supposed to go cross-country to claim these points? 

18 July 2019, 20:31

Time trial world champion goes awol midway through stage, the day before the individual time trial

This is very odd. Has anyone seen Rohan Dennis?

 #TDF2019

Our priority is the welfare of all our riders so will launch an immediate investigation but will not be commenting further until we have established what has happened to @RohanDennis.

Meantime we continue to support our riders who are mid-race.

— Team Bahrain Merida (@Bahrain_Merida) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

We think he's turned up

Rohan Dennis back at Bahrain-Merida team bus, before the finish or Stage 12. Still no official word as to why the Australian has abandoned the #tdf19 #sbstdf. pic.twitter.com/xxgGNFnTWS

— Sophie Smith (@SophieSmith86) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

Things have been a bit tense, apparently

Our @Eurosport_UK start team witnessed obvious tensions between Rohan Dennis and Bahrain Merida at the team buses this morning. Whatever's gone wrong, it was building.

— Orla Chennaoui (@SportsOrla) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

Simon Yates wins stage 12

And that’s @SimonYatess who takes the win at the sprint!
Et c’est Simon Yates qui s’impose au sprint devant Bilbao et Mühlberger ! #TDF2019 pic.twitter.com/jN2uqhBvzi

— Tour de France (@LeTour) July 18, 2019

The 2018 Vuelta champ won this strange sprint with no sprinters in it, triumphing over Pello Bilbao and Gregor Mühlberger.  

18 July 2019, 20:31

Hartlepool cyclist hospitalised after car passenger pushed him off

Police appeal for witnesses.

Full story here.

18 July 2019, 20:31

G tries his hand as a tipster

“Can you win the stage tomorrow G?”

“Dennis and Van Aert are my favourites.”

“Dennis has gone home.”

“Oh, Van Aert then.”@GeraintThomas86  pic.twitter.com/Az1qTA2lja

— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

Nothing to see here...

Only at @LeTour…

Answers on a postcard please!#TDF2019 pic.twitter.com/T4e4gkowmG

— ITV Cycling (@itvcycling) July 18, 2019

18 July 2019, 20:31

Cervelo launches first gravel bike

Cervelo wades into the gravel bike market with an unashamedly performance-focused bike. Check it out here 

Cervelo Aspero20
Cervelo Aspero20 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cervelo Aspero20
Cervelo Aspero20 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

And also check out this neat video they produced about gravel riding for the new bike.

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20 thoughts on “Live blog: The disappearing (and reappearing) world time trial champion; Brailsford says Froome is back on his bike, pedalling with one leg; French drivers to lose licences for using phone at the wheel; Phil Liggett’s tribute to Paul Sherwen + more”

  1. Bmblbzzz
    July 18, 2019 at 8:41 am
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    As ever, enforcement is the

    As ever, enforcement is the trouble. How to catch people using their phone while driving? Though of course, they do still have police in France. 

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    • Sriracha
      July 18, 2019 at 9:08 am
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      Bmblbzzz wrote:

      As ever, enforcement is the trouble. How to catch people using their phone while driving? Though of course, they do still have police in France. 

      — Bmblbzzz

      One method might be to have a blitz on pulling over drivers for visible driving errors (eg failure to indicate) easy to capture on video. Then check their phone history. If there is an overlap, confiscate the licence and keys. As a side-benefit, such a campaign would see a load of BMW drivers booking their cars in to have the indicators fixed!

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  2. pdw
    July 18, 2019 at 8:55 am
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    If the penalty was an instant

    If the penalty was an instant ban, then I don’t think you’d need a lot of enforcement for most people to not risk it.  I’ve never understood the need to be so lenient on mobile phone use at the wheel.  It’s just about the only traffic offence that it really is impossible to commit by accident.

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    • BehindTheBikesheds
      July 18, 2019 at 11:55 am
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      pdw wrote:

      If the penalty was an instant ban, then I don’t think you’d need a lot of enforcement for most people to not risk it.  I’ve never understood the need to be so lenient on mobile phone use at the wheel.  It’s just about the only traffic offence that it really is impossible to commit by accident.

      — pdw

      It’s similar in so many other aspects of life inclusing sport. We were talking about how rugby league and union can try to protect players welfare more particularly with regards to concussion. Changing the penalties to be harsher, or more in line with the actual offence and actually applying the penalties all the time not ad-hoc plus subsequent match bns of a greater length and financial penalty would make players think a bit more when going into contact.

      Currently it’s abysmal and the traditional tackle has reduced as a % over the last 20+ years so you get a lot of head and neck contact, then we wonder why players are having more injuries both short and long term. 

      Changing the rules/penalties is the way forward, ‘armouring up’ is completely the wrong solution as they found in gridiron.

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  3. hawkinspeter
    July 18, 2019 at 9:14 am
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    Why can’t we have a similar

    Why can’t we have a similar mobile phone ban in the UK? My preference would be for an instant driving license ban (a couple of weeks or a month) and immediate confiscation of the phone as well. Combine that with random enforcement checks (e.g. plain clothes police on bikes filtering past traffic jams) and drivers would soon get the message and would stop. It’s only because drivers can get away with it that they do it.

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    • StuInNorway
      July 18, 2019 at 9:32 am
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      hawkinspeter wrote:

      Why can’t we have a similar mobile phone ban in the UK? My preference would be for an instant driving license ban (a couple of weeks or a month) and immediate confiscation of the phone as well. Combine that with random enforcement checks (e.g. plain clothes police on bikes filtering past traffic jams) and drivers would soon get the message and would stop. It’s only because drivers can get away with it that they do it.

      — hawkinspeter

      Don’t need bikes, a copper sitting somewhere slightly raised with a birdspotter scope, looking at oncoming traffic, radio to marked patrol to pull in drivers for mobile use, seatbelt, etc etc. Works great here in Norway, and they often stand in the same place, so you’d think people would be especially careful at their 5 fave places, but nope, every time they are there they stop loads of people. Equivalent to a £170 fine + 2 points (8 loses licence here for 6 months) 

      Couple of months back they caught so many they actually couldn’t stop all of them, they hadn’t space in the layby to pull in more. So they came back the same time the next day, and gaught even more. 3 of the drivers pulled in on day 2 had been pulled the day before, and both of them suddenly had enough points to become instant pedestrians. (If they have no other driver in the car the ban is delayed a few hours to allow them to get home, so if you live 2km away,  and get stopped at 9am, the ban would be from 10am)

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      • jigr69
        July 18, 2019 at 9:43 am
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        StuInNorway wrote:

        Don’t need bikes, a copper sitting somewhere slightly raised with a birdspotter scope, looking at oncoming traffic, radio to marked patrol to pull in drivers for mobile use, seatbelt, etc etc. Works great here in Norway, and they often stand in the same place, so you’d think people would be especially careful at their 5 fave places, but nope, every time they are there they stop loads of people. Equivalent to a £170 fine + 2 points (8 loses licence here for 6 months) 

        Couple of months back they caught so many they actually couldn’t stop all of them, they hadn’t space in the layby to pull in more. So they came back the same time the next day, and gaught even more. 3 of the drivers pulled in on day 2 had been pulled the day before, and both of them suddenly had enough points to become instant pedestrians. (If they have no other driver in the car the ban is delayed a few hours to allow them to get home, so if you live 2km away,  and get stopped at 9am, the ban would be from 10am)

        — StuInNorway

        That is how you do it intelligently, however, here in the UK, intelligence and the Police don’t go hand in hand. The car rules here in the UK with a surprising amount of drivers racking up over 12 points and still allowed to drive (12 points is the limit as to where you become disqualified for a couple of months).
         

        In 2017, there was a Yorkshire driver who had an incredible 62 points on their license and still allowed to legally drive! Thats enough to disqualify 5 people, but yet they still are allowed to drive. So hats off to the Norwegians for actually enforcing the law properly.

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        • burtthebike
          July 18, 2019 at 6:25 pm
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          jigr69 wrote:

          That is how you do it intelligently, however, here in the UK, intelligence and the Police don’t go hand in hand. The car rules here in the UK with a surprising amount of drivers racking up over 12 points and still allowed to drive (12 points is the limit as to where you become disqualified for a couple of months).

          — jigr69

          Not much to do with the police, everything to do with our useless, grovelling politicians, scared to death of the driver vote.

          It was the politicians who allowed hands free mobiles, despite the evidence showing that they are just as dangerous as hand held.  If I was in charge, the MPs who voted for that would be working shifts in A&E to make them aware of the consequences of their craven actions.

          It was the same politicians who decided that, although the effect on driving was the same as being over the alcohol limit, using a hand held mobile would receive a much smaller punishment.

          The same politicians who passed the Act allowing for exceptional hardship when drivers should be banned.

          Our MPs are spineless, cowardly and ineffective, and have no interest in really making our roads safer.

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          • Xena
            July 18, 2019 at 9:39 pm
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            burtthebike wrote:

            That is how you do it intelligently, however, here in the UK, intelligence and the Police don’t go hand in hand. The car rules here in the UK with a surprising amount of drivers racking up over 12 points and still allowed to drive (12 points is the limit as to where you become disqualified for a couple of months).

            — burtthebike

            Not much to do with the police, everything to do with our useless, grovelling politicians, scared to death of the driver vote.

            It was the politicians who allowed hands free mobiles, despite the evidence showing that they are just as dangerous as hand held.  If I was in charge, the MPs who voted for that would be working shifts in A&E to make them aware of the consequences of their craven actions.

            It was the same politicians who decided that, although the effect on driving was the same as being over the alcohol limit, using a hand held mobile would receive a much smaller punishment.

            The same politicians who passed the Act allowing for exceptional hardship when drivers should be banned.

            Our MPs are spineless, cowardly and ineffective, and have no interest in really making our roads safer.

            — jigr69

            it has everything to do with the police because they have to enforce the law if like most of them they are so pedantic . 10mph over the speed limit etc etc.

            I think most politicians now are career minded . They never have the balls to talk for themselves.

            how many times do they get asked “ what do you think “ and they are to scared because they tow the party line and don’t want to fuck up their future prospects .   In Walthamstow the people voted not to bomb Syria  it was something like 99%  Their MP overruled it and voted in parliament to support the bombing . If your vote counted you wouldn’t be allowed to vote 

            Here’s the solution  why isn’t this in every fucking vehicle,,,because of the ker ching.

            https://www.livescience.com/3145-device-prevents-driving-cell-phone.html

      • hawkinspeter
        July 18, 2019 at 9:46 am
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        StuInNorway wrote:

        Why can’t we have a similar mobile phone ban in the UK? My preference would be for an instant driving license ban (a couple of weeks or a month) and immediate confiscation of the phone as well. Combine that with random enforcement checks (e.g. plain clothes police on bikes filtering past traffic jams) and drivers would soon get the message and would stop. It’s only because drivers can get away with it that they do it.

        — StuInNorway

        Don’t need bikes, a copper sitting somewhere slightly raised with a birdspotter scope, looking at oncoming traffic, radio to marked patrol to pull in drivers for mobile use, seatbelt, etc etc. Works great here in Norway, and they often stand in the same place, so you’d think people would be especially careful at their 5 fave places, but nope, every time they are there they stop loads of people. Equivalent to a £170 fine + 2 points (8 loses licence here for 6 months) 

        Couple of months back they caught so many they actually couldn’t stop all of them, they hadn’t space in the layby to pull in more. So they came back the same time the next day, and gaught even more. 3 of the drivers pulled in on day 2 had been pulled the day before, and both of them suddenly had enough points to become instant pedestrians. (If they have no other driver in the car the ban is delayed a few hours to allow them to get home, so if you live 2km away,  and get stopped at 9am, the ban would be from 10am)

        — hawkinspeter

        Fair enough. I just love the idea of more police going out on bikes to give them a non-windscreen perspective and possibly improve their health as well. The big advantage of bikes is that you can capture all the stationary drivers that start using their phone whilst in jams.

        I don’t agree with the delayed ban, though it is nice and considerate for the drivers. Immediate ban and the driver can phone a friend or start walking. If you can’t travel alone, don’t use your phone (sorry, not sorry for the rubbish slogan).

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        • Bmblbzzz
          July 18, 2019 at 10:45 am
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          hawkinspeter wrote:

          Why can’t we have a similar mobile phone ban in the UK? My preference would be for an instant driving license ban (a couple of weeks or a month) and immediate confiscation of the phone as well. Combine that with random enforcement checks (e.g. plain clothes police on bikes filtering past traffic jams) and drivers would soon get the message and would stop. It’s only because drivers can get away with it that they do it.

          — hawkinspeter

          Don’t need bikes, a copper sitting somewhere slightly raised with a birdspotter scope, looking at oncoming traffic, radio to marked patrol to pull in drivers for mobile use, seatbelt, etc etc. Works great here in Norway, and they often stand in the same place, so you’d think people would be especially careful at their 5 fave places, but nope, every time they are there they stop loads of people. Equivalent to a £170 fine + 2 points (8 loses licence here for 6 months) 

          Couple of months back they caught so many they actually couldn’t stop all of them, they hadn’t space in the layby to pull in more. So they came back the same time the next day, and gaught even more. 3 of the drivers pulled in on day 2 had been pulled the day before, and both of them suddenly had enough points to become instant pedestrians. (If they have no other driver in the car the ban is delayed a few hours to allow them to get home, so if you live 2km away,  and get stopped at 9am, the ban would be from 10am)

          — StuInNorway

          Fair enough. I just love the idea of more police going out on bikes to give them a non-windscreen perspective and possibly improve their health as well. The big advantage of bikes is that you can capture all the stationary drivers that start using their phone whilst in jams.

          I don’t agree with the delayed ban, though it is nice and considerate for the drivers. Immediate ban and the driver can phone a friend or start walking. If you can’t travel alone, don’t use your phone (sorry, not sorry for the rubbish slogan).

          — hawkinspeter

          But note that the Norwegian delayed ban is still far sooner and more definite than the British “automatic” ban which depends on the decision of a judge at a court case some time in the future. The ability of the police to ban you from driving literally and instantaneously on the spot with no argument already shows a huge difference in attitude to law enforcement. (Same of course in non-traffic law: a fine for eg littering can be given on the spot but you get 21 days to pay, etc.)

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      • numbskull
        July 18, 2019 at 1:17 pm
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        StuInNorway wrote:

        Don’t need bikes, a copper sitting somewhere slightly raised with a birdspotter scope, looking at oncoming traffic, radio to marked patrol to pull in drivers for mobile use, seatbelt, etc etc. Works great here in Norway, and they often stand in the same place, so you’d think people would be especially careful at their 5 fave places, but nope, every time they are there they stop loads of people. Equivalent to a £170 fine + 2 points (8 loses licence here for 6 months) 

        Couple of months back they caught so many they actually couldn’t stop all of them, they hadn’t space in the layby to pull in more. So they came back the same time the next day, and gaught even more. 3 of the drivers pulled in on day 2 had been pulled the day before, and both of them suddenly had enough points to become instant pedestrians. (If they have no other driver in the car the ban is delayed a few hours to allow them to get home, so if you live 2km away,  and get stopped at 9am, the ban would be from 10am)

        — StuInNorway

        A fairly regular feature in my local paper. A couple of journalists / photographers appear to be able to do a competent job:

         https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17768435.drivers-file-nails-eat-breakfast-a338-wessex-way/

         

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    • ConcordeCX
      July 18, 2019 at 2:28 pm
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      hawkinspeter wrote:

      Why can’t we have a similar mobile phone ban in the UK? My preference would be for an instant driving license ban (a couple of weeks or a month) and immediate confiscation of the phone as well. Combine that with random enforcement checks (e.g. plain clothes police on bikes filtering past traffic jams) and drivers would soon get the message and would stop. It’s only because drivers can get away with it that they do it.

      — hawkinspeter

      somebody tried to confiscate my phone today. Mounted the pavement on a scooter and went for me at quite a speed. I don’t think he was a cop either. Miserable little scrote .

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  4. bigbiker101
    July 18, 2019 at 10:17 am
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    Want to catch motorists on

    Want to catch motorists on their phones… simple… walk down a street and look in the cars as they passs by, you don’t need anything else, walking my dog in the morning to and from the local woods I go along a fairly busy road, I would say 30% of the drivers are on their phones.

    Current policy simply isn’t working, a ban is the only way forward

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  5. schlepcycling
    July 18, 2019 at 10:33 am
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    The problem I’ve encountered

    The problem I’ve encountered is the wording of the law which states the phone must be ‘in use’.  I’ve filmed a number of drivers with their phones in their hands clearly having a conversation and one recently who was filming his drive past Windsor Castle.  However when I reported all these to the police and provided the footage, the response I get back is that they won’t prosecute becuase that can’t prove that the phone was ‘in use’ rather than just being ‘held in the hand’ which isn’t an offence apparently.  If the law was changed so just holding the phone was an offence then it would be much easier to prosecute.

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    • Awavey
      July 18, 2019 at 6:13 pm
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      schlepcycling wrote:

      The problem I’ve encountered is the wording of the law which states the phone must be ‘in use’.  I’ve filmed a number of drivers with their phones in their hands clearly having a conversation and one recently who was filming his drive past Windsor Castle.  However when I reported all these to the police and provided the footage, the response I get back is that they won’t prosecute becuase that can’t prove that the phone was ‘in use’ rather than just being ‘held in the hand’ which isn’t an offence apparently.  If the law was changed so just holding the phone was an offence then it would be much easier to prosecute.

      — schlepcycling

      But unless the scribes writing it on the bit of vellum that got royal assent transcribed it wrong,which has happened once before I believe, the law should state its illegal even to just hold a mobile phone whilst driving,no qualifier that it needs to be in use,the only exception I believe was to make 999 calls if it was unsafe to stop, everything else even whilst stopped should be covered. Now whether the police feel it’s a law worth their time pursuing the full extent of the law for cases unless it’s a clear danger to other road users is another matter

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  6. Rick_Rude
    July 18, 2019 at 12:52 pm
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    Any seen the Russian ‘Stop a
    Any seen the Russian ‘Stop a douche bag’ channel on YouTube? They do stuff like stopping drivers going down pavements to avoid queues. If they dont back up they get a large, hard to remove sticker over their windscreen. Should do that.

    Alternatively police should just patrol on motorbikes, filtering and looking through windows. Then smash the window and give them a thorough beating.

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  7. Xena
    July 18, 2019 at 5:41 pm
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    The police force don’t have

    The police force don’t have the resourcefulness . The austerity that is going on in this country has seen to that . Cuts cuts cuts.   Anyway the  street police are mostly power tripping lunatics. They are just the government’s gang “ they are legal” . Look at the recent facial recognition van in London fining a man £90 . They  “the  government gang the police “ are just revenue assets . All we get is fake terror BS and busting kids for carrying some dope and turning up after the stabbings that have been numerous in London .

    Some lorry driver smashed in to my jeep parked outside my house. 

    I called the fucking police , this little shit in a uniform turned up and started giving me shit because I have long hair and tattoos. I told him to go fuck himself and do his job . I told him he was nothing without that uniform and I’m watching everything  he’s doing . He didn’t know what to do ,his partner intervened ,who happened to be a very decent chap and admitted that his partner lacks social skills I.e he doesn’t know how to talk to people . Remember I just called the police after a lorry smashes in to my jeep parked outside my house and instead of speaking to the lorry driver sitting in the cab he starts trying to pick on me , wtf , lucky I was not  black or a Muslim .

    Seriously how did he even get that job . That’s what we have ,brainwashed morons in positions of authority. 

    There is a device that can actually stop phones from working in a car etc . Why dont  they just install them in every car . The cost would pay for it self when you look at the accidents and  the deaths from this stupid  act . Get off the phones anyway. I challenge any poster to go a week without your phone . Your all turning into a bunch of fucking robots , we already are seeing people chipped ,wake the fuck up . Use your land line. . You really don’t need it .  

     

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    • alansmurphy
      July 19, 2019 at 10:57 am
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      Xena wrote:

       

      Some lorry driver smashed in to my jeep parked outside my house. 

      I called the fucking police , this little shit in a uniform turned up and started giving me shit because I have long hair and tattoos. I told him to go fuck himself and do his job . I told him he was nothing without that uniform and I’m watching everything  he’s doing . 

       

       

      Seriously how did he even get that job . That’s what we have ,brainwashed morons in positions of authority. 

       

      Your all turning into a bunch of fucking robots , we already are seeing people chipped ,wake the fuck up . Use your land line. . You really don’t need it .  

       

      — Xena

       

      You’re a delight, i wonder why the Policeman treated you with contempt!

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  8. jacknorell
    July 20, 2019 at 11:15 am
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    The delayed ban in Norway
    The delayed ban in Norway makes sense, else once you run out of room in the layby you must stop the operation. Else confiscate and tow the car, which is operationally and legally difficult.

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jackcycles 24 minutes ago

The problem with roadcc's coverage of Nick Freeman is that it's focusing too much on his controversial hot takes, rather than the well-known work he's done road safety campaigning. For balance, Nick has been very vocal recently on the dangers posed by electric cars for cyclists and pedestrians, writing (on X): "Pedestrians, cyclists and other vulnerable road users often rely on hearing an approaching vehicle. That’s why I believe EVs should emit synthesised warning sounds at all speeds, not just low speeds. Road safety must always come first." I think we can all unite around that sentiment rather than the more divisive number plates argument which I disagree with. Nick thinks that "accountability" comes with identifiability. I agree to some extent, but you have to balance the risks posed by a form of transport with the loss of freedom and increase in state power resulting in having mandatory identity numbers. Cycling doesn't even come close.

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Xenophon2 3 hours ago

@HarrogateSpa : Exactly. Clickbait articles such as this to keep the advertisers happy.

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chrisonabike 4 hours ago

@hawkinspeter Hmm... while there is sensible stuff in there it's even better where the design and human nature carries more of the weight than rules or guidance. Speed limits being one; if it was just on the rules that would be a lesser way of ensuring safety than the road / space design. (Of course just changing a number on a sign *does* work to some extent, presumably in part via the "anchoring" effect and "when in Rome"). I'm thinking more of what we have in eg. UK motorway-design-level thought and applying that *. One example would be the Dutch taking the observation that a certain fraction of people will make dangerous overtake no matter the rules, paint or even considerations of their own safety and a muffed overtake can have very severe consequences ... and then simply banning overtaking on some classes of roads (and even bringing in physical barriers some places). Hey presto - a whole class of problems they don't have! (It's not perfect of course, lots of legacy roads there). * Only some classes of vehicles allowed, everyone going the same direction with no crossing traffic or stopping / parking, rumble strips at edges, energy absorbing crash barriers, curved layout to stop people falling asleep...

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ktache 4 hours ago

I liked his graphs.

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Rendel Harris 5 hours ago

And yet not three weeks ago you were actively canvassing likes. Good liars need good memories, Nigel.

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hawkinspeter 5 hours ago

@chrisonabike - the Highway Code is a good example of fool-tolerant rules. The emphasis is on how to minimise causing danger to others, but also avoiding collisions even if the other road users are being arseholes (e.g. not running over cyclists even if they're blatantly cycling on the wrong side of the road)

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jackcycles 5 hours ago

Bless you, I didn't realise you place your self-worth on the number of likes you receive on an internet forum. I've never yearned for the approval of others, I'm just satisfied in the knowledge that I've constructed a coherent and noteworthy post. The best one I've done so far was the one I gave with your pipe, ale and suggestion to move to my leafy cul de sac. I have to admit I cheekily read it back to myself a few times and chuckled *every single time*!

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chrisonabike 6 hours ago

Yeah, I think you're right, it did get a bit more "oh yeah? Well what about this?!" latterly. There's a lot more polarising going on. I blame myself. And the unicyclists.

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mdavidford 6 hours ago

"They want us all locked in our homes...!" "Not all, only some..."

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chrisonabike 6 hours ago

@hawkinspeter fool-tolerant design? Fool-foiling designs sound better but they tend to have unfortunate side-effects - at least when combined with human nature *. "Sustainable Safety" - design expecting mistakes and some rule-breaking eg. corner-cutting - but be *forgiving*. That means while *feedback* is provided (see adverse camber, slightly uneven driving surface etc) favour "everyone gets to their destination safely" over "the rules must be respected even at risk of collateral damage!" The penalty for failure shouldn't be serious injury or death. * Few want to be thought a fool and some may prove it if they believe that assumption was made.

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2. “This is exactly why cyclists should have number plates,” says Mr Loophole – after “arrogant” cyclist fined £1,200 for squeezing between cars (while riding without a licence plate); Cyclist in outside lane of 70mph dual carriageway + more on the live blog

3. Children cycling “wrong way around roundabout” latest target of ex-Reform councillor who claimed cyclists should give way to cars – but critics argue he’s delayed safety scheme; Regent’s Park bike jam splits opinion; Cyclist v Tank + more on the live blog

4. Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court

5. “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog

6. Cycle path “creating a constant stream of arguments between drivers and cyclists” should be altered “so cyclists give way to vehicles”, demands councillor expelled from Reform UK

7. “Why don’t you apologise? Don’t be so selfish”: CyclingMikey’s latest argument with pedestrian on shared use path sparks discussion; Local angry with cyclist “holding up the road” despite not being in lane; TdF Femmes debrief + more on the live blog

8. “When I crashed two years ago, she pulled full gas”: Demi Vollering and Kasia Niewiadoma’s “beef” over – but Tour de France Femmes winner hits out at public attack and online abuse

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