Live blog: Camelbak says it is completely separate from from Vista Outdoor’s NRA-supporting shooting segment (+ more)
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OnYerBike 1 minute ago
@Riggers No single option has really filled the void. For clothing, Sigma Sports probably has the best range, but tends to be higher end brands at RRP (or close to). For steep discounts on brand name stuff, Merlin is probably the best bet. Beyond that, a lot of googling and shopping around - Tredz, bikeparts.co.uk, Condor, SJS Cycles etc.
OnYerBike 7 minutes ago
@Paul J As I understand it, the sale did include the IP for the dhb brand, and I think Frasers/Evans claimed to have been planning to keep the brand going. That said, there's no reason to think that the brand has/will retain the quality or value credentials it was formerly known for - I don't believe any staff were retained, nor any obligation to retain or restore relationships with the suppliers that had previously manufactured dhb-branded kit. Far more likely dhb becomes another "brand" plastered across the cheap tat that is the hallmark of the Frasers empire. I note the dhb website you link to doesn't appear to have been updated since February 2024 (based on Wayback Machine archives).
panda 31 minutes ago
@Rendel Harris I think it says a lot about the previous two days that not many guys chose to race for the sake of racing. If the win is prestigious (like Paris) and/or the previous stages haven’t been so brutal then more teams and riders will choose to race. It’s a shame because Paris the last couple of years has been great and I can see what they were thinking! Few minor tweaks and I think it works. I’m also from a generation where an organiser could just say “the course is safe, if you want your prize money, race. No tears” and it would have happened unless Hinault didn’t fancy it. Which he would’ve. I could also see a situation where a GC contender wants to work for one of their team-mates who has worked for them for three weeks so a GC cordially agreed truce wouldn’t be possible, but how big would the time gaps be, anyway?
danhopgood 2 hours ago
It's long past the time when there should be meaningful enforcement of illegal ebikes and escooters. Utterly ridiculuous to be able to go to a high street shop like Curry's and buy an escooter that's illegal to use in a public place. The "illegal to use in a public place" stuff should just be banned from sale completeley and enforcement action taken. There's issues across the board. Amazon selling tons of stuff that just doesn't comply with safety standards. In the good old days there were a properly resourced trading standards departments within local authorities. I say bring 'em back, funded by prosecutions and fines from those who make a profit from dangerous kit. Do that, and there'll be no need for folks like Network Rail to be faced with an impossible dilemma whether to allow a free for all and risk a fatal fire, or ban legitimate users that may need their ebike for basic transport.
the little onion 3 hours ago
Although van Schip has been a victim of the UCI's pettiness and retrospective application of the rules, I think this is a step towards Making Cycling Aesthetically Pleasing Again. Really, pro-cycling isn't about winning races, it's about looking fantastic. I only hope that the World Champs are won by cyclists who have a commitment to plastering rainbow bands on absolutely every bit of their kit.
Rendel Harris 3 hours ago
It's a shame that the final day neutralisation has distracted from the fact that this was one of the best GTs in quite a while, with all the jerseys in play right up to the penultimate day. It's certainly ridiculous to leave the decision on neutralisation until the evening before the stage but more generally, why not? It's only really a variation on the sprint safety zone, after all, and the final stages have effectively been neutralised (when they are not time trials) for a long time with the GC teams staying in touch until the safety zone and then letting the sprinters go. It was a great finish despite, or maybe because of, the neutralisation and it was rather nice for the winner's team to be able to ride in behind the peloton so that all the fans got a good look at them and could show their appreciation of the winner. If we want the excitement of narrow climbing finishes on the last day (as opposed to the, frankly, tedium of watching the peleton power up and down the Champs eight times) then it makes sense to arrange matters so that those who want the stage win can give us some thrilling racing without being encumbered by all the GC teams being forced to crowd the front. Everyone saying "God almighty, it's disgusting they've just decided not to race" is ignoring the fact that there are many times in a GT when the majority of teams will decide not to race, when they let a breakaway go, when the sprint teams are given free rein et cetera. The only thing I would disagree with was the removal of the final points at the finish, if the green jersey had still been in play that would have been unfair on the second placed rider. However, apart from tweaking that I thought it worked well and quite possibly gave us a more exciting finish than we would've had without the neutralisation.
james-o 5 hours ago
@mjvande@pacbell.net Mike Vandeman, is that you?! https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/biking/trial-mike-vandeman/
eburtthebike 6 hours ago
@No Reply I had the same problem, but it seems to be sorted now.
eburtthebike 6 hours ago
@No Reply I had the same problem, but it seems to be sorted now.
tomlew 10 hours ago
@JMcWatt This may well be true. Nothing drives me crazy more than cosmetic updates and facelifts that don't really bring any new value about. Maybe they do attract new customers, but also discourage existing ones. I was never a regular customer of CRC, but if I had been, I would surely have been mad seeing confusing changes. If I don't understand the website and have to re-learn the process anyway, why not switch to another shop?
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So the revenue from Camelback
So the revenue from Camelback allegedly doesn’t go straight to the NRA, but it does mean that Vista can (at least in theory) donate every penny of revenue from firearms sales to them, and they will still have a good bottom line due to their other siloed departments. I’m not boycotting anyone, but I’ll certainly give preference to a company with no links to the organisation who thinks playing with guns is more important than the safety of school kids if there’s a choice.