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You seem to be ignoring that
You seem to be ignoring that the Highway Code says it’s both legal and considerate, because it contradicts your view.
Yes, beginning to think so.
Yes, beginning to think so.
‘but I’m sure there are plenty of cyclists who think that singling out is actually the more considerate option to following drivers’ as i have explained that would be incorrect and unlikely an option to be chosen as being considerate, asuming they drive as well cycle.. it’s legal but not considerate.I sense very stroingly some cyclists can’t be bothered to be considerate; some are though. It’s a choice.
I don’t know if you are wilfully misunderstanding my (admittedly somewhat devil’s advocate) point, so I’ll try once more before giving up. You may think that 15 cyclists riding single file is inconsiderate and that anyone would be incorrect to think otherwise. But that view is at odds with what the Highway Code actually says – it suggests that to be considerate (it actually uses that word) when riding in groups, you should single out to allow drivers to overtake when safe.
Now for what it’s worth, I actually agree with you that 15 riders in single file is sub-optimal and that the HWC wording is ,although now better, still problematic on this issue. I am simply pointing out that what you received as unthinking or deliberately obstructive behaviour could in fact have been intended as precisely the opposite – it could have been a conscious choice to do what the HWC says (rightly or wrongly) is considerate.
Does that just mean you now
Does that mean you now just wonder where you’ve left the orange one instead?!
Yes, you say riding single
Yes, you say riding single file is inconsiderate; but I’m pointing out that Rule 66 specifically suggests the opposite, and that far from being selfish, they may actually have thought they were doing the considerate thing:
You should… be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders. Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so
Now obviously you were going to wait until you could cross the centre line to overtake, which I applaud, and in that case doubling up would arguably be more helpful – but I’m sure there are plenty of cyclists who think that singling out is actually the more considerate option to following drivers.
Both seem inferior to
Both seem inferior to scenario 3 to me – ride two abreast, thus maintaining both the group size the cyclists want and the group length to give drivers opportunity to overtake.
However, while I wouldn’t say riding 15 in single file is good roadcraft, have you considered that, while you thought this was selfish, perhaps they genuinely thought they were being considerate following the letter of the Highway Code:
“Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so”
Most threads I’ve started in
Most threads I’ve started in the forum start with “I’m sure there’s already a thread on this but…”
Great stuff! Let us know how
Great stuff! Let us know how it goes.
My own cargo journey has been paused as my little one has just got her first pedal bike and currently looks like she might be able to ride to school without a Tern. Curses. Journey times quite variable dependent on her mood though…
if adam yates wins stage 1 of the tour, that’s the story, and that’s the headline. people looking for news about the tour de france stage 1 result are looking for that. google is looking for that.I take the point, but presumably readers who are actively looking for TdF coverage want to know more than just who won, and so will still click on a headline that just says “TdF Stage 1 Report”.
Another vote for playing with
Another vote for playing with the angle. My weight yo-yos and, when I’m at the heavier end of the scale, I can get a bit numb. I find tilting the nose down a little makes a bit more space for the soft bits.
I had similar recently
I had similar recently cycling on a narrow road. The driver behind tried to go round three sides of a small park to get ahead of me while I cycled along the one remaining side. I confess I actually had to slow down to ensure we intersected at just the right moment.
I use a GPS head unit on rides, currently a Garmin Edge 1040 Solar (replacing over time previously 1030 Plus, 1030, 820, 520, Wahoo RFLKT).Wow. I’m still nursing along a Garmin 800, though I am thinking it’s time for an update.
I don’t indicate when moving between secondary and primary, it’s not necessary – that movement is within the envelope of road space a cyclist should be given anyway.Agree it’s within the envelope a cyclist should be given, but it doesn’t always work like that. I can think of a particular pinch point where I usually signal to make abundantly clear that I am taking primary: https://goo.gl/maps/jQiiUkdxx96ZMdCX9
Seconded. I have a Fairlight
Seconded. I have a Fairlight Faran on 38s and a Mason Definition on 28s. Subjectively the Mason feels much faster, but Strava says there’s about 1km/h in it.
Edited to add: I am wondering about splitting the difference and trying a Strael
Why are they doing it? ESG
Why are they doing it? ESG risk.
Maybe a better analogy is it’s like Greggs offering a vegan sausage roll.
