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wycombewheeler wrote:
sounds very inefficient sending out part deliveriesBut I didn’t say anything about part deliveries.
Even if there is 10% extra capcity in the industry, it would take 10 weeks for petrol stations to be restored to normal as long as drivers keep their tanks full, while only two weeks if everyone reverts to refilling once the light comes on.Well, that’s kind of my point – the reason that it’s persisting is not so much that everybody’s driving around with full tanks topping them up the whole time, but that not everybody has managed to fill their tanks yet, and won’t manage to for some time, even with more fuel being delivered than normal, so any excess will keep getting sucked in to cars that aren’t full yet.
I’m not disputing that a more sensible resolution would be for everyone to go back to refilling only when needed. I’m just saying that a more realistic one is a lengthy period of oversupply to get to the point where no more will fit in to people’s tanks. Because people.
That assumes that there is
That assumes that there is absolutely no spare delivery capacity, rather than just very marginal. It also assumes that they’re locked in to their existing delivery patterns, whereas in reality they will be able to redirect deliveries from areas and stations that aren’t experiencing shortages to those that are. You only need to get each station to the point where it has just enough to cover it until the next delivery, not restore it to where it was before all this began.
It already has happened –
It already has happened – stages were shortened, but still went ahead. The EWP seems to be a bit of a moveable feast.
But if consumption is normal,
But if consumption is normal, and deliveries are normal, then you get back to the normal state of equilibrium, with the only difference being that everyone’s driving around with a full tank. Even if a handful of stations then have issues because of driver shortages, that can’t trigger a fresh round of panic buying, because everyone’s tank is already full.
Pedantry corner: if they’re
Pedantry corner: if they’re 55% full (on average), you can only put 45% of a tank in to them (on average). That makes 0.45 x 60l x 30m = 810m litres, not 990m litres. You seem to be putting 55% of a tank into cars that are already 55% full.
Also not really sure how you get to 990m litres being double 770m litres?
recovery can only happen as people revert to filling their cars up once empty, instead of maintaining their tank as close to full as possible.Well, recovery can happen as you reach the point where everone’s tanks are full, because then, by necessity, they will go back to only taking as much fuel from the pump as they’re using. The problem is that, as you point out, reaching the point where everyone has a full tank requires several re-fills of the pumps.
Wait – would that mean I’d
Wait – would that mean I’d have to extol the quality of the research, writing, editing, and proof-reading that’s gone in to the articles? Not sure I can get on board with that.
Tour Down Under being ridden
Tour Down Under being ridden in 45+C seems pretty extreme to me. And that’s probably going to become the rule rather than the exception.
Maybe, but I’m not sure you
Maybe, but I’m not sure you can call that ‘feudal anarchy’ – it’s more some feudal areas and some areas of anarchy. Otherwise, you have to, for instance, say that Afghanistan before the US pull-out had a system of ‘liberal totalitarianism’, which doesn’t seem to make much sense.
…feudal anarchy…Surely that’s oxymoronic?
I wasn’t blaming you. Or at
I wasn’t blaming you. Or at least, not just you (as my mum would have said, ‘I don’t care who started it – you all carried it on’). Yours just happened to be the last comment in the thread when I caught up to it.
I was just rolling my eyes in despair at the whole lot of it.
Oh dear god. As I said, I’m
Oh dear god. As I said, I’m all for discussions evolving in new and interesting directions. But reviving fruitless ‘debates’ that had more than run their course long before the old thread finished is another matter.
That gives them extra value –
That gives them extra value – you get the bonus of watching the panic and confusion on someone’s face when you hand them over for payment and they have to work out what to do with it.
Do you accept Northern Irish
Do you accept Northern Irish notes?
Given where some of the
Given where some of the comments have gone on this post, I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be better to give it a couple more beers and send it for a lie down again.
Discussions and whatnot, sure
Discussions and whatnot, sure. It was the mutual abuse and insults I was referring to.
