The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    David9694

    Death, sex, religion and

    Death, sex, religion and helmets politics – how many people, beholden to 1950s books on good manners are still being oh so British about these topics? When these issue do eventually force their way to the surface, it often gets out of hand because as a people are out of practice in handling them.  It’s like when we’re called on as a nation to dance and sing. 

    We get the politics and government that we invest in. I can hear my old Gran saying things like “there’s people starving in Africa” and “worse things have happened at sea” –  funny to think that the current defence of 10 years of Tory government draws largely on her collection of stoic sayings.

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    perce

    They had a Burner as well.

    They had a Burner as well.

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    ktache

    They had one of those on

    They had one of those on Yesterday’s electronic workshop restoration show.

    Give me the simplicity of the Burner anyday.

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    mattw

    What?

    “I think we’re about to be taken over by Reform UK at the next Election”.

    “They are down there … let me help”

    #1016561
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    perce

    I’ve been to a 1980’s

    I’ve been to a 1980’s exhibition at my local museum and that was one of the film posters on display. They also had a Raleigh Vektra kids bike on display – on board computer, radio and an assortment of arcade type sounds which could be unleashed while riding along. Nice. The only thing was it weighed nearly 20kg which ultimately led to its demise.

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    Rich_cb

    Rendel Harries wrote:

    Rendel Harris wrote:
    The trouble is that you appear to believe that the atrocities of the very far left in terms of dictatorial communism invalidate any left wing movement, even moderate socialism

    I don’t think I’ve ever said that.

    I’m sure with your -photographic memory- you can tell me exactly which of my posts you based that erroneous conclusion on?

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    mark1a
    perce wrote:
    ”In the year of Darkness (what happened to them?) 2029, the rulers of this planet devised the ultimate plan. They would reshape the future by changing the past”. Only six years to go then.

    Nah, that timeline is now way out, 2029 is based on the fact that Skynet became self-aware in 1997.

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    Rendel Harris

    Rich_cb wrote:

    Rich_cb wrote:
    No. You’ve just made that up.

    What, exactly?

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    chrisonabike

    Trump was a useful reminder
    Trump was a useful reminder not just that any democracy is fragile. That showed there aren’t hard and fast lines between “freer, liberal” places and the other types. Just a continuum of better or worse features. Of course once you get far enough it probably looks like a qualitative difference!

    Ultimately Trump also showed that the system did work there to maintain itself. Unfortunately illiberal places and regimes can also be stable!

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    Rich_cb

    No. You’ve just made that up.
    No. You’ve just made that up.

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    chrisonabike

    perce wrote:

    perce wrote:

    ”In the year of Darkness (what happened to them?) 2029, the rulers of this planet devised the ultimate plan. They would reshape the future by changing the past”. Only six years to go then.


    It’s not over until the bells end?

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    Rendel Harris

    Rich_cb wrote:

    Rich_cb wrote:
    That Communism is not a benign ideology.

    It is not, or has not been from those who have claimed to practice it at least (we can argue until the cows come home as to whether they were actually communists). However nor is fascism. The trouble is that you appear to believe that the atrocities of the very far left in terms of dictatorial communism invalidate any left wing movement, even moderate socialism, whereas apparently the atrocities of the far right in terms of dictatorial fascism don’t invalidate the moderate right at all. More than a whiff of hypocrisy about that.

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    perce

    ”In the year of Darkness

    ”In the year of Darkness (what happened to them?) 2029, the rulers of this planet devised the ultimate plan. They would reshape the future by changing the past”. Only six years to go then.

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    perce

    Oh god I knew there’d be a

    Oh god I knew there’d be a graph coming.

    #1016541
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    Rich_cb

    Democracies are not, by any
    Democracies are not, by any stretch, perfect but they’re better than every alternative.

    Genuine liberal democracies with full suffrage are a relatively recent phenomenon but they have a good track record on human rights relative to the alternatives.

    The danger of democracy being overthrown is ever present. Trump being the most infamous recent example in, probably, the world’s most robust democracy.

    The UK with its unwritten constitution and convoluted conventions is, on paper at least, quite vulnerable. The post referendum shenanigans, on both sides, exposed many people to that fragility for the first time.

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