The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    Manchestercyclist

    It’s easy to be dismissive of

    It’s easy to be dismissive of oversupply of labour when you’re not the one losing out. Perhaps people should consider for a moment those without the protection of a higher education (degree for instance). Wages are largely determined by supply and demand just like prices, the UK has seen an unprescedented  surge in supply of labour in the last 20/25 years, the only reason wages didn’t drop further is the artificial construct of a minimum wage. 

    I work in an industry that requires a degree and a post graduate qualifacation so I’ve gained from cheap labour in other industries, many of you will be in a similar situation. Now spare a thought for those who are still on minimum wage and can not withdraw their labour to demand higher wages or better conditions because they can be easily replaced. It’s no coincidence that wages rose in recent years when the supply has been restricted. 

    On a separate note my mother/father-in-law both came to the UK in their fifties, they worked low ages jobs and contributed virtually no tax whatsoever, then  used the NHS extensively, one of them was in hospital with high needs for months. They took out more from the system in those few months than they contributed in decades. One of their parents came to the UK at 65, got a free flat in Ealing and never worked a day in her life (she had enormous amounts of land and property abroad).

    I have never voted for UKIP or the like but I can understand why some people do. It’s a form of snobbishness to sugest anyone who wants better wages is a fool.

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    chrisonabike
    Hirsute wrote:
    Local rag is full of Clacton stories.

    “We need a putin” has been posted by 2 people. Brains addled by drugs I assume.

    According to the Russian polls he’s very popular…

    #1016597
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    wycombewheeler
    David9694 wrote:
    concern about over population = feeling of oppression by constantly ‘busy’ environment = too many cars

    Yep, it’s cars making you feel this way. 

    Overpopulation isn’t only about being in crowded areas, we could easily build enough to meet the population needs without becoming more crowded. 

    Residential is either 1.3% or 6.2% depending on whether you include gardens, so an extra 20% of housing could easily be accomdated in the land. (easily if you ignore all the nimbys opposing any new houses where they live) although of course we haven’t been building housing and house prices and rents have outstripped inflation/wages for decades. This more than anything else probably drives the objection to immigration. People who are already struggling to pay their rent will not want more demand on housing.

    But we don’t grow enough food for the current population, never mind more people. We also import energy both in the form of gas an electricity. Certain areas of the country are also designated as being under water resources stress. More people exacerbates all these issues

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    Hirsute

    Colin from Portsmouth is on

    Colin from Portsmouth is on the line

    https://x.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1797953342892863607

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    Hirsute

    Local rag is full of Clacton

    Local rag is full of Clacton stories.

    “We need a putin” has been posted by 2 people. Brains addled by drugs I assume.

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    brooksby

    I think that the problem is

    I think that the problem is not Reform UK / Brexit Party / UKIP per se (they only ever seem to get MPs by Conservatives crossing the floor), but the problem is how they have dragged the whole British political discourse further and further right.  The Conservatives aren’t exactly conservative any more – they are pretty radical, but right wing radical.  Labour has followed them rightwards because they think that being right (ish) wing is the only way to get into power (maybe it is) and they seem to be working on purging anyone left of centre.

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    David9694

    Well, here we are with a

    Well, here we are with a month to go to a GE. Labour are riding high in the polls, Conservatives are going to struggle to get more than 100 MPs and Farage is standing in Clacton. The battle for the soul (???) to the right continues.

    immigration continues to be a focus, whether driven by good old racism or xenophobia, “they’re taking all our jobs” or concern about over-population. I don’t think the first two are the universal vote-winners the far right think they are. 

    Overpopulation interests me – that feeling of oppression one gets in a busy “people everywhere” environment. I’m not a fan of crowds myself.  Anyway, here’s my formula for why it’s an issue:

    concern about over population = feeling of oppression by constantly ‘busy’ environment = too many cars

    Yep, it’s cars making you feel this way. 

    #1016585
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    essexian
    Left_is_for_Losers wrote:
    Man up

    That’s so funny. I see, Troll, you have changed your name again. Sad.

    Now remember, the crayons go in your pencil case, not up your nose. 

    #1016583
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    Left_is_for_Losers
    essexian wrote:
    Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:
    Yet more nonsense.

    Oh, nice school cap but….sorry to break this to you, but the D is supposed to be showing at the front.

    Man up

    #1016581
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    essexian

    Jeremy Corbyn for PM}</strong></p> [quote=Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:
    Yet more nonsense.

    Oh, nice school cap but….sorry to break this to you, but the D is supposed to be showing at the front.

     

     

    #1016579
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    Left_is_for_Losers
    essexian wrote:
    Hello.

    Now shouldn’t you be off getting your school uniform ready for your return to school? Or don’t they wear uniform in first school anymore?

    Haha – you call yourself an adult? If you are that mature, sort it out and maybe post sense, or at least stop showing yourself to be a fool every time you think you are “funny” by commenting on everything I do. 

    #1016575
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    essexian

    Jeremy Corbyn for PM</strong></p> [quote=Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:
    Wrote rubbish.

    Hello.

    Now shouldn’t you be off getting your school uniform ready for your return to school? Or don’t they wear uniform in first school anymore?

    #1016577
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    essexian
    Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:
    Rich_cb wrote:
    .

    Don’t hit them with facts…they don’t like them at all on here

    Facts… you wouldn’t know facts if it stole your school dinner money from you. 

    #1016573
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    Left_is_for_Losers

    Rich_cb wrote:

    Rich_cb wrote:
    There have been some significant successes over the last 13 years. Minimum wage reform. Tax threshold reform. Pension reform. Huge expansion of renewable energy generation. Huge decreases in the UK’s carbon footprint. They’ve also done a much better job of running health and education than their devolved equivalents in Wales. There’s also the small matter of navigating both a global financial crisis and a global pandemic without any periods of large scale unemployment.

    Don’t hit them with facts…they don’t like them at all on here

    #1016571
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    Left_is_for_Losers
    essexian wrote:
    Ssshhhhh now. The adults are talking. 

    Oh look who’s back! Nice of you to say hello. 

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