The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    David9694

    Oh nothing, just a former

    Oh nothing, just a former Reform leading light going on about having the death penalty back for convicted rapists. 

    Great Yarmouth MP Rupert Lowe calls for death penalty

    https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/25616924.great-yarmouth-mp-rupert-lowe-calls-death-penalty/

    Yeah, me too, I needed a reminder of who he was – https://politicsuk.com/who-is-rupert-lowe/

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    chrisonabike

    David9694 wrote:

    David9694 wrote:

    Reform UK councillor apologises for ‘disgusting’ social media posts


    Deflection bingo:
    ✔️ time ago
    ✔️ different place / stage in my life
    ✔️ I had problems/ was suffering too!
    ✔️ just words / poor choice of words
    ❌️ it wasn’t me (my assistant / dog posted it)
    ❌️ taken out of context
    ❌️ I’ve lots of black friends / I’m gay myself so it’s fine
    ❌️ just bants / can’t you take a joke / free speech

    Not the full house there. If he wants to get ahead he’ll have to do better. Or even double down / flip into the attack (“I’m just reflecting what lots of people are asking, and frankly I’m not surprised because you lot are not listening to them / talking down at them”…)

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    David9694

    rdaddict wrote:

    rdaddict wrote:
    I visit this website to forget about politics, leave it out please.

    <sigh> Wouldn’t that be lovely – no idiot entitled drivers and no RWNJs trying to deny you your existence.

    As a society, you get the politics and leadership you invest in – turn away, immerse yourself constantly in gossip and trivia and be apathetic, you’ll likely end up with the fact-free Reform grift. 

    Saying stupid / offensive stuff on SM (especially now as the pretence of it being in any way policed has gone) is moving into the real world / public domain – idiots can increasingly say their stuff out loud and if there’s any doubt, there’s always “it was a joke” or “I was in a bad place” for them to hide behind.

    There are lots of other bigger populist targets than cyclists, but anyone who is or can be made out to be “a bit different” and for the bonus, is less able to defend themselves is a potential target.  I don’t intend us being bullied, corralled or regulated out of being cyclists.  The last few weeks have at least shown that Reform can be stopped.

    It would be over the top to allude too much to the ten stages of genocide, but you can see the parallels with some of it – identify you as different, identify you as a problem needing a solution, regulate you (e.g. make you wear hi viz), exaggerate the problems you cause and so make rules about where and when you can do / be your thing (for your own good and the greater good, of course), register you, remove the infra / structures that enable you to do/ be your thing and turn it over to others, limit or remove all the things that protect you while you’re doing your thing; in short, make it impossible for you to do (or be) your thing. 

    So enjoy the multiple other threads on here about the sport, the equipment and rides and while you do, we’ll try to keep you safe from those who might turn out to be serious about the daily diet of “cyclists should be taxed, made to go on the cycle path (which we’re going to rip out)”, the removal of 20 mph limits and the 1.5 metre rule “so that hard-working drivers can get Britain moving again” or whatever. 
     

     

     

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    andystow

    chrisonabike wrote:

    chrisonabike wrote:
    It was probably the ambiguous title which made them think it might have something to do with CdA, headset design or socks…

    The Rouleur Party and the UK’s lurch towards fixed gear.

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    chrisonabike

    It was probably the ambiguous
    It was probably the ambiguous title which made them think it might have something to do with CdA, headset design or socks…

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    mdavidford

    Not to mention that well over

    Not to mention that well over 800 posts in is perhaps a little late in the day to realise that this topic might, perhaps, just have something to do with politics…

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    David9694

    Reform UK councillor

    Reform UK councillor apologises for ‘disgusting’ social media posts

    Staffordshire councillor Peter Mason posted the comments about black women and the police prior to his election

    Cllr Mason said: “These tweets were made in 2023 and early 2024 when I was not a member of any political party or elected as a councillor and during a difficult time personally, affected by grief and redundancy. I do regret and apologise for my choice of words.

    https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/reform-uk-councillor-apologises-disgusting-10629385?int_source=nba

     

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    Hirsute

    The simple remedy for you is
    The simple remedy for you is not to read these types of threads.
    You should also avoid various news items on this site.

    Btw this is the tea stop forum where you can discuss anything as per the description of the forum.

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    Rendel Harris

    rdaddict wrote:

    rdaddict wrote:
    I visit this website to forget about politics, leave it out please.

    If only there was a way of being able to stop oneself from going right to the bottom of the landing page and clicking on the forum, and then on the tea stop section (which is specifically for talking about anything people fancy talking about), and then on a topic which couldn’t more clearly be about politics. Probably going to be a bit complex but I feel there must be a way if only we look hard enough.

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    rdaddict

    I visit this website to
    I visit this website to forget about politics, leave it out please.

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    chrisonabike

    wtjs wrote:

    wtjs wrote:
    I think Cheddar Man’s contemporaries and ancestors likely walked here via Doggerland, although the Neolithics could have been foreigners who came in small boats

    Just as long as the mesolithic hunter-gatherers weren’t cyclists! And imagine the horror if “the French / Belgians were here first”!

    Some interesting detail about the first farmers (or perhaps more “pastoralists”?) in the UK and Ireland is emerging – it seems it wasn’t just one group of people, and indeed there may have been one or more initial “failed colonies” (perhaps the locals just hunted all their domestic animals?)

    https://road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/stoke poges.jpeg

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    wtjs

    I think Cheddar Man’s
    I think Cheddar Man’s contemporaries and ancestors likely walked here via Doggerland, although the Neolithics could have been foreigners who came in small boats

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    chrisonabike

    Don’t tell him about Cheddar
    Don’t tell him about Cheddar Man – or indeed the first Neolithic settlers here *… still, eventually put right by the reproductive fecundicity of the Beaker folk.

    What’s that – they were continental immigrants who came over in small boats? Doh!

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_European_Farmers

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    hawkinspeter

    Another day, another Reform

    Another day, another Reform canidate being racist: https://bylinetimes.com/2025/11/05/nigel-farages-chosen-reform-mayoral-candidate-suggested-black-britons-cant-be-english/

    https://bylinetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/image-3.png

    So, according to Alexander Jones, you need white skin to be English.

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    Mr Blackbird

    Nearly all BBC coverage of
    Nearly all BBC coverage of Reform UK features Nigel Farage. It may just be that they couldn’t get hold of him, as he always seems to disappear whenever there is a bad news story.

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