The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    David9694

    Man who hasn’t learnt from

    Man who hasn’t learnt from Brexit going to vote Reform

    https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/man-who-hasnt-learnt-from-brexit-going-to-vote-reform-20250428256654

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    David9694

    Thanks. Blink, as I did, and

    Thanks. Blink, as I did, and you’ll miss it; the story has gone from KOL and has been picked-up by the Daily Mail. 

    My search on all this below: I haven’t got time to chase down every thread, but the same figure is also claimed for neighbouring East Sussex CC, something to the effect that the Kent £160k includes personalised tuition.

    I assume this figure is from the KCC “DoLGE” initiative.  I did see that KCC in its official papers is building two special needs schools that were due to open in September ’25 that are delayed 2 years.  And that the budget in question is underspent.

    https://democracy.kent.gov.uk/documents/s131341/Outturn%20Report%20FINAL.pdf

    Gonna say it again – Brexit has made the UK poorer, and here’s the grating sound of that poverty in action.

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/IMG_6467_0.jpeg

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    brooksby
    David9694 wrote:
    We’re also OK because we got rid of slavery; not wishing to come over all Guardian reading metropolitan elite or anything, but out of a centuries long history “Prolific c18th slave trading nation takes decades to end the practice and over a century to finish compensating the slave owners out of the public purse” would be a better headline. 

    FTFY 

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    David9694

    Rugby has been stuck in the

    Rugby has been stuck in the middle of the nation’s culture wars – and it is an ugly place full of threats and lies

    This has culminated in the school closing today (Friday) due to threats to staff. Let’s be very clear – this is never acceptable and it is a shameful stain on our town.

    https://www.warwickshireworld.com/news/people/rugby-has-been-stuck-in-the-middle-of-the-nations-culture-wars-and-it-is-an-ugly-place-full-of-threats-and-lies-5230768

    PS He also mentions a Katie Hopkins tour stop being cancelled there – it’s booked for November in City Hall in Salisbury. TBF they have got Prof David Olusoga coming in September.

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    Adam Sutton

    Those stats offer some hope,

    Those stats offer some hope, but it can be difficult when you have seen people as I have fall completely down that rabbit hole. My hope is the gains in local elections will have people see them for what they are, incompetent. 

    As well as with the UK/Reform, working for a big US media company (where you would expect more liberal/left leaning attitude) it has been a shock finding the number of people in the US I have worked with for years, who are highly intelligent people get sucked into MAGA.

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    Rendel Harris
    Adam Sutton wrote:
    Indeed. At 46 I feel my generation is lost, those that have fallen for right wing populism are gone.

    I would dispute that, certainly the numbers who have fallen for Reform are depressing but many of those are former Tories anyway who hopefully will split the right wing vote. I’m from the generation above you (56) and I don’t know any friend who has moved to Reform, although admittedly the majority were left-wing to start with. If you look at this month’s voting intentions, 36% of your generation intend voting for the right wing (13% Conservative, 23% Reform) and 58% left/centre (31% Labour, 13% LD, 14% Green), so you’re not lost yet.

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    Adam Sutton

    Indeed. At 46 I feel my

    Indeed. At 46 I feel my generation is lost, those that have fallen for right wing populism are gone. A friend (I still count them as a friend) has gone down the rabbit hole.

    MSM = Bad, anything a rightwing pundit or Farage says = Good/Right. 

    Couldn’t shut up about Biden being dodgy and some kind of sexual pervert, but oddly silent on Trump

    Voted reform and ended up with a Reform MP in Thurrock, who is now independent due to dodgy dealings during Covid.

     

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    Adam Sutton

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    David9694

    All I can find today on Kent

    All I can find today on Kent Online is the far right trying to prioritise stopping the boats over stopping the traffic. How very suburban. 

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    ktache

    Especially a young educated

    Especially a young educated electorate.

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    Adam Sutton

    I had an article pop into my
    I had an article pop into my news feed from Kent online. I’m not going to share it.

    Basically now they control Kent Country Council, it seems they are having a DOGE. In this some bollocks on how a special needs student was costing the taxpayer over £160k a year. I didn’t read much, it was clearly exaggerated bullshit and I certainly avoided the comments. Just seems like crap to excuse cutting education, because the last thing reform want is an educated electorate.

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    chrisonabike

    I look forward to any

    I look forward to any forthcoming “union-flag *-sequin-dress-with-plastic-bowl-hat and hi-vis-with-casual-workwear parties”.  David Bowie-esque perhaps?  Especially in Scotland where the Saltire-favouring may crash the party and make things more lively.  (Any passing Shetlanders might be little moved – it’s all a long way away…)

    * Sorry, more pedantry, but still further pedants apparently approved both usages in 2013… 

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    David9694

    Union Jack dress girl: I

    Union Jack dress girl: I think there’s more to come out about what has gone on here.  For sure, the grifters have not been slow to try to make both revenue and capital out of it:

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/25320559.union-jack-dress-girl-12-gofundme-set-far-right-fraudster/

    The Gofundme seems to have been pretty short-lived.  I did catch a guy on a Facebook reel reading out the whole of the letter, second stanza of which was getting into All Lives Matter territory. At a practical level, I’m not sure what the indigenous white pupils are meant to do on a day like this; a bit like bringing in an example of British cuisine.

    The rabbit hole also led me to this patch of historical illiteracy and present day confusion – tolerant, pluralistic, etc but you’re doing your darndest to take a wrecking ball to that:

    “It doesn’t matter how many polls show the United Kingdom to be one of the most pluralistic, tolerant societies on the planet and far less racist than its European neighbours who somehow still summon the balls to sneer at Britons as bigoted retrogrades to be crushed under their metropolitan heels.”

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2081962/union-jack-schoolgirl-isolation?int_source=mantis_rec&int_medium=web&int_campaign=more_like_this

    We’re also OK because we got rid of slavery; not wishing to come over all Guardian reading metropolitan elite or anything, but out of a centuries long history “Prolific c18th slave trading nation takes decades to end the practice” would be a better headline. 

    https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-11/what-was-britains-involvement-in-the-slave-trade

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    David9694

    One of the natural breaks in

    One of the natural breaks in the chain is tolerance and a recognition that you don’t have enough of an understanding of someone else’s situation to get involved in the conversation  as to whether “they” should be tolerated/ allowed to exist, etc. However, these are not people that are going to make an effort to find out any facts or different experiences.

    Anyway, back to the news : Curiously enough, the KCC home/ school transport taxi budget is next up for DOGE scrutiny – curious because cabbies, at least the ones we usually hear from, are an obvious Reform fan-group. 

    Kent County Council bill for free home-to-school taxis nears £100m, says Reform UK leader Linden Kemkaran

    [The KCC leader] added: “I’m led to believe that a lot of taxi companies quote KCC a rate that is way above the market rate.

    “So I have tasked my DOLGE team to look at that specifically. Who is awarding these contracts? Does anyone do a market comparison? Are we getting value for money?”

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/free-home-to-school-taxi-bill-is-absolutely-enormous-say-326369/

    The Local Government chronicle take – unusually no paywall:

     ‘Doge’ is beyond insulting

    04 JUNE 2025 BY SARAH CALKIN

    To suggest there is significant waste left to cut in local government ignores reality, and the transparency with which councils operate, writes LGC editor Sarah Calkin

    “On examining the home to school transport budget he (Mr Fried) may find himself agreeing with Kent’s former Conservative leader Roger Gough that consideration should be given to means testing this service. However, unless the government wants to change the law, he would be powerless to do anything beyond ensure routes are as efficient as possible and drive down the use of individual taxis, all things which councils with these responsibilities are already doing.”

    Reform’s ‘Doge’ is beyond insulting

    Analsis by none other than Charlotte Gill!
    https://trafalgaranalytics.substack.com/p/doge-kent-data

    https://trafalgaranalytics.substack.com/p/reform-uk-and-council-waste-kent

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    chrisonabike
    Rendel Harris wrote:
    David9694 wrote:
    Let’s be clear on this stuff – one you’ve decided that there are superior and inferior groups, it’s then a progression that (if no-one stops it) gathers momentum.  

    Exactly this, once you’ve accepted the concept then everything else is just arguing about details.

    Slightly devil’s advocate here – but in fact “the details” are the important bit!

    Because … the rest seems to be the default tendency of (most) humans and their groups!

    That is not to say “we’re all basically nazis” but that concepts such as “us and them” (starting perhaps with family, then wider membership groups), relative rankings (mildest “we ‘cyclists’ are more likely to be fitter / more considerate on the roads than thos drivers”) and some kind of “essentialism” (once an x, always an x … perhaps being an x is something “innate” etc.) are so common as to be “what we are”.

    Perhaps it’s something that sometimes a few people never pick up, maybe it’s something we can unlearn to some extent?  I suspect though it’s something that just happens and we manage and work around.

    Anyway – I do agree that some of these Reform folks (and the other “right wing” US / european movements) seem to have taken a noticable stride down the path.  But perhaps it’s not yet quite “us and those who are unacceptable/incompossible”?  Perhaps we can engage with individuals on some of the underlying concerns and points of attraction which make these groups popular?  (Though it’s difficult if that turns into the “let me show you on the internet what the truth is…”)

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