[David9694]

A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don’t quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

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[brooksby]

David9694 wrote:

I’d  be in favour of CAZs etc being a layer on Google Maps.  I’d be in favour of drivers being able to receive a text message if they were due to pay a charge. 

The Euro classifications listed in the criteria don’t mean anything to me:
“Euro 4, 5 and 6 petrol vehicles, roughly 2006 upwards
Euro 6 diesel vehicles, roughly end of 2015 onwards”

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/streets-travel/bristols-caz/charges-and-vehicle-checker

Approaching from the M5 south, you’d have to drive quite a long way around 3 sides of a rectangle to get into the CAZ; if you’re coming from the M4 and went M32, you’re literally in the city centre – and what sort of petrol old banger are you running for it to be an issue at all?

The CAZ includes the end of the A4 Portway as it comes into the city centre and joins the A3029 and then the A370 heading out toward the airport (a junction area known as Cumberland Basin).

It’s one of people’s main complaints, that if you follow the signage from the M5 to to go to the airport you are funnelled directly into this little spur of the CAZ and by the time you get close enough to see CAZ warning signs its too late and there’s no way of avoiding the CAZ.

Or something like that, anyway… 

[David9694]

I’d  be in favour of CAZs etc

I’d  be in favour of CAZs etc being a layer on Google Maps.  I’d be in favour of drivers being able to receive a text message if they were due to pay a charge. 

The Euro classifications listed in the criteria don’t mean anything to me:
“Euro 4, 5 and 6 petrol vehicles, roughly 2006 upwards
Euro 6 diesel vehicles, roughly end of 2015 onwards”

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/streets-travel/bristols-caz/charges-and-vehicle-checker

Approaching from the M5 south, you’d have to drive quite a long way around 3 sides of a rectangle to get into the CAZ; if you’re coming from the M4 and went M32, you’re literally in the city centre – and what sort of petrol old banger are you running for it to be an issue at all?

[hawkinspeter]

pockstone wrote:

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there’s much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Why don’t they just relocate Bristol Airport to the ruddy great disused runway at Filton? Railway within yards, Motorway within minutes.

It’d get in the way of the stadium if that ever gets completed.

[chrisonabike]

pockstone wrote:

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there’s much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Me also – was surprised to find it’s further and certainly seems less pleasant on a bike than getting to Edinburgh airport (from the main railway station in each place).

On the other hand we have that wonderful tram.  (The tram is convenient though from the centre of town – albeit not much faster than cycling)

[brooksby]

pockstone wrote:

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there’s much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Why don’t they just relocate Bristol Airport to the ruddy great disused runway at Filton? Railway within yards, Motorway within minutes.

The ruddy great disused runway at Filton got sold off and built on.  Houses.  Hundreds of them.

[pockstone]

You prompted me to take a

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there’s much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Why don’t they just relocate Bristol Airport to the ruddy great disused runway at Filton? Railway within yards, Motorway within minutes.

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

But then they’d have to drive to Temple Meads (because they’d have to drive), so they’d still go through the CAZ.

Better to wait until the Bristol Underground is built, surely?

Can’t they get the train to Temple Meads and then the Underground for the rest of the journey?

But you can’t carry your holiday luggage on a train!

Err – waitaminute…

[hawkinspeter]

chrisonatrike wrote:

You can’t carry a fridge on a train!

[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

But then they’d have to drive to Temple Meads (because they’d have to drive), so they’d still go through the CAZ.

Better to wait until the Bristol Underground is built, surely?

Can’t they get the train to Temple Meads and then the Underground for the rest of the journey?

[chrisonabike]

hawkinspeter wrote:

I don’t know why they don’t just take the train to the airport…

You can’t carry a fridge on a train!

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Signage for Bristol Airport from the M5 sends you along the A4 Portway and then the A370 toward Weston-super-Mare and the airport.  This route takes you through the Clean Air Zone, and there have been lots of complaints from tourists about it.  DfT has said that the motorway is several miles from the CAZ (true) and that they won’t put up CAZ-warning signs that far away.

With the benefit of local knowledge, you can go along the A369 and the back lanes to get to the airport without going through the CAZ, but it’s a much more fiddly route, not intended for heavy volumes of traffic, and takes longer.

I don’t know why they don’t just take the train to the airport…

But then they’d have to drive to Temple Meads (because they’d have to drive), so they’d still go through the CAZ.

Better to wait until the Bristol Underground is built, surely?

[David9694]

Drivers and their problems:

Drivers and their problems: Southampton cruise ships traffic warning amid rail strikes

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/23562694.southampton-cruise-ships-traffic-warning-amid-rail-strikes/

[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

Signage for Bristol Airport from the M5 sends you along the A4 Portway and then the A370 toward Weston-super-Mare and the airport.  This route takes you through the Clean Air Zone, and there have been lots of complaints from tourists about it.  DfT has said that the motorway is several miles from the CAZ (true) and that they won’t put up CAZ-warning signs that far away.

With the benefit of local knowledge, you can go along the A369 and the back lanes to get to the airport without going through the CAZ, but it’s a much more fiddly route, not intended for heavy volumes of traffic, and takes longer.

I don’t know why they don’t just take the train to the airport…

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

David9694 wrote:

Even the sky itself is copyright Google. (was looking for chemtrails). 

Burn the land and boil the sea
You can’t take the sky from me

You can’t stop the signal 😀

[brooksby]

David9694 wrote:

pay up, whingers 

M5 driver stunned after being hit by Clean Air Zone fines

https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/m5-driver-stunned-after-being-8478145?

Signage for Bristol Airport from the M5 sends you along the A4 Portway and then the A370 toward Weston-super-Mare and the airport.  This route takes you through the Clean Air Zone, and there have been lots of complaints from tourists about it.  DfT has said that the motorway is several miles from the CAZ (true) and that they won’t put up CAZ-warning signs that far away.

With the benefit of local knowledge, you can go along the A369 and the back lanes to get to the airport without going through the CAZ, but it’s a much more fiddly route, not intended for heavy volumes of traffic, and takes longer.

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