The vicar of a church in Greater Manchester has claimed a cycle lane is causing his congregation numbers to plummet because worshippers “have been getting lost” due to the cycling infrastructure.
Reverend David Murray made an appearance on road.cc last January when the vicar of St Margaret’s Church in Altrincham said the 170-year-old institution was “under threat” from a cycle lane and that its “bells have been ringing out since the mid-1800s… [but] now we face extinction simply because of a crazy traffic system”.
Well, one year on and the sermon has not changed, the “awkward” cycleway on Gorsey Lane being blamed by the vicar for leaving the church “completely isolated” and worshippers “lost”.
The installation of the cycle lane in 2023 saw Gorsey Lane made into a one-way street and it prevents drivers accessing the church’s car park from the A56. It all means, the BBC reports, churchgoers must drive an extra half mile to access the car park, a half-mile journey that is a pilgrimage too far according to Murray.
“People have been getting lost and they’ve said it’s too awkward,” he said. “Added to that, the roads around the church are covered with double yellow lines. We feel we are being completely isolated.”
Congregation numbers are apparently down from 100 to around 60, while Sunday School numbers and nursery session attendance has also been hit, according to the vicar.

Jackie Campbell, a team leader for pastoral care on the St Margaret’s parochial church council, said the congregation is largely elderly people who “need to get up to the front door by car”.
“It’s great to be on a bike, and they wish they could, be on a bike or take public transport, but they can’t,” she said.
A local councillor, Phil Eckersley, has backed the church and said the cycle lane has “significantly affected access”. He has asked the council to “re-evaluate whether the scheme’s benefits truly outweigh the disruption it has caused to long-standing community institutions and residents’ daily lives”.
However, the council has stressed the road changes are intended to “make journeys on foot or by bike much easier and more attractive, to help create a more connected and accessible region”.
Last January, Vicar Reverend David Murray began the church’s campaign against the cycle lane, saying “many of his congregation had already been put off attending services since the cycle lane was installed and he now fears his historic church could close unless the local council reconsiders the plans”.
“The church is under threat for a 20m stretch of cycle lane,” he said. “We had a carol concert last week and were down by about half the usual numbers. Our bells have been ringing out since the mid-1800s and we’ve served this community through two world wars. Now we face extinction simply because of a crazy traffic system that closes access from the A56.
He added: “This plan pushes church traffic to a dangerous turn on a bend further up the A56 one way or indeed past a school the other way – that area is already very busy at school drop off and pick up times. It’s madness. All for the sake of a 20m cycle lane that goes nowhere and actually takes cyclists straight into the headlights of oncoming traffic.”




















47 thoughts on “Vicar who claimed “church is under threat” from bike lane now blames cycle route for congregation “getting lost” and plummeting attendance”
The vicar obviously feels
The vicar obviously feels hard done by but he should console himself with the upside. He now has to share a room with only sixty delusional individuals rather than a hundred.
Has he tried praying for
Has he tried praying for divine intervention. I can imagine it now…..(wobbly vison effect)…… Music starts
Singer:Jesus Christ Super Star, came down to earth on a Yamaha
Heavenly Choir : Eeeeebike….
Singer: Did a skid..
Singer: Killed a kid…
Singer: Cut off his balls on a dustbin lid….
Heavenly Choir : Shoulda got the ABS model……laaaaaa
I’m sure if god really wanted
I’m sure if god really wanted more people to attend church he could do something about it, what with him being omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent!
Backladder wrote:
I mean we’ve got pestilence, war, famine, fire, and now the Great Beast ravaging the planet – how many more signs does it need?
Do you mean “snowflakes who
Do you mean “snowflakes who should just get a job”, culture wars, cost of living crisis, “weather” and (*checks notes*) has Jeremy Corbyn appeared in the land?
I think I saw both a wheelchair with a clip-on handcycle attachment AND several bakfietsen with attachments for carrying children at the weekend. The end times are upon us…
The lead photo clearly shows
The lead photo clearly shows why a cycle lane was needed with cars dropping off and obstructing the path and road creating a risk for pedestrians and cyclists.
On Google maps you can see that the church has a car park and is encircled by a road so people can still be dropped at the door, it’s just they don’t want to share the public road.
It now fails to surprise me how unchristian some christians are.
It’s not a cycle lane – it’s
It’s not really a cycle lane – it’s a walking and cycling crossing directly over the A56. The whole scheme was prompted by the need for a ped crossing, and the council decided to use the opportunity to create a cycle route too. And that’s why Gorsey Lane is now one-way for drivers.
Isn’t it more that his church
Isn’t it more that his church faces extinction due to an elderly and aging congregation ? There must be some sort of community bus they could set up, if these people are unable to use public transport or to drive a slightly more complex route?
Ditto.
Ditto.
“Jackie Campbell, a team leader for pastoral care on the St Margaret’s parochial church council, said the congregation is largely elderly people who “need to get up to the front door by car.”
If this is truly the case, the church doesn’t have long to last bike lane or no bike lane.
I like the argument of how
I like the argument of how busy the road is at school pick up and drop off times. He should maybe consider moving his services to a Sunday?
Perhaps he could have had his
Perhaps he could have had his carol concert in the evening once all the kids have been picked up.
IanMK wrote:
Unfortunate phrasing, given the recent history of the Church in the UK
Basically, his parisheners
Basically, his parishioners are so lazy, they can not be asked to take the very simple, 5 minute diversion, via Booth road!
Thoughts and prayers.
Thoughts and prayers.
St Margaret’s Church in
St Margaret’s Church in Altrincham, sponsored by the Daily Telegraph.
If people are getting lost,
If people are getting lost, then do a map handout, put a route on your website, send a map via email to the congregation (old people do use email !)
Thoughts from a regular
Thoughts from a regular church-goer and cyclist:
It’s hard to see what congestion at school pick-up and drop-off times has to do with church attendance – or indeed concert tickets sales, given that concerts generally take place in evenings, lunchtimes or weekends – in fact I can’t think of ever having seen a church concert or a church service that took place at school pick-up or drop-off times.
An “extra half-mile” drive to a car park would take all of 90 seconds longer at 20mph. Call me a cynic, but I don’t believe that is realistically going to prompt a 40% drop in attendance either.
There are all kinds of factors that may contribute to falling church attendance. Aside from the main and most obvious factor in a predominantly elderly congregation (illness and death), there has been a decline in attendance overall across the board – and there are many other factors to consider than the addition of 90 seconds to the journey time. Dare I say it, confidence in leadership of a church is among the most common factors behind a precipitous decline.
Also, constantly popping up to declare how dangerous and difficult it is to get to your church, rather than promoting the relative lack of impact on access may serve well to discourage potential new attendees in addition to put off the existing ones.
It’s notable that the minister also all but discounts entirely the possibility of attracting non-elderly members – I wonder what provision there is for access by foot or by two wheelers? Are there safe bike parking facilities? If the church is now on an integral part of the cycling infrastructure of the city, have they considered e.g. running a cycle-stop cafe? Installing a public bike tool point? Looking at improving access to the church from the car park?
If people are stopping on the road in order to get to the “front door” in preference to using the car park, then perhaps a reserved “drop-off point” at the nearest access from the car park to the church could improve things for everyone – alongside possibly an additional or new entranceway?
Christianity has always
Christianity has always looked down on those who pedal the word of God.
People getting lost? I’ve
People getting lost? I’ve just Streetview navigated from the POV of a driver. It’s literally turn left three times, or turn right three times, depending on which direction you’re coming from when you realise that Gorsey Lane is now one way.
Church attendance declining?
Church attendance declining? Christ on a bike!
You rang? Oh, my mistake.
You rang? Oh, my mistake.
chrisonabike wrote:
I think he should look for
I think he should look for guidance in the good book (as should we all).
Hmm… will there will be “more rejoicing over one cyclist who repents than over ninety-nine righteously angry persons who need no repentance”?
It’s good on congestion/induced demand though: “Enter through the narrow
busgatestreet. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter.”Perhaps they should be praying to the council for more facilities for mobility vehicles (and wishing on a prayer that the goverment will take a look at reclassifying these)?
Let us pray 🙏
Let us pray 🙏
This is fake outrage promoted
This is fake outrage promoted by the local Tories, particularly Nathan Evans. Who’s married to Laura Evans, the twice-failed Tory GM Mayoral candidate who has been repeatedly trounced in all the recent elections she’s stood in (including the previous general election).
The fact is, the scheme was prompted by a schoolgirl’s petition to council, the council were very impressed by her presentation, highways designed the scheme, TFGM funded it, and it’s a very useful walking/cycling crossing. It also makes it easier for motorists to join the A56 southbound because now they have lights, where previously they had nothing.
Finally, that church is selling contract parking in the area, advertised in local press. The whole thing stinks and they are not promoting christian values.
Oh God.
Oh God.
Is this the flucking Telegrunt, again?
I’m going to have to ask WRGM, aren’t I?
Christians huh?
Christians huh?
Edited: To comment on the Christian immigrants not respecting the pagan natives…
This is very embarrassing for
This is very embarrassing for the church, it suggests the congregation cannot organise lifts for their less able bodied fellow attendees and that those who do drive are unable to negotiate a simple diversion.
It also suggests that 40% of the congregation has so little commitment to their faith that a minor diversion prevents them from going to church.
As others have said, the crossing was installed to enable students from the local schools cross the very busy A56 safely, prompted by a petition submitted by one of the students.
Or the congregation reads the
Or the congregation reads the news and does not like all the stories about ignored abuse by senior members of the church.
Surely a quick prayer would
Surely a quick prayer would sort out the issue?
Quote:
Those early Christians had it easy, dealing with lions (allegedly) and crucifixions (definitely)… They never had to deal with “driving around the block” and double yellow lines.
It’s 2 whole minutes.
It’s 2 whole minutes.
Jesus wept.
Not even that for any driver
Not even that for any driver approaching along the A56 from the west! Perhaps His Reverence could use your map to illustrate a short sermon to his flock? Perhaps following some of Chris(t)onabikes suggestions for suitable passages from scripture?
I think its in the Book of
I think its in the Book of Job: one of the (many) torments with which Job was tested, was having double yellow lines and a cycle lane painted around his local Temple
Just another SUV driver in
Just another SUV driver in the Bible there. His conveyance was like a whale – but an earlier traveller had something as roomy as an ark!
Some of the godly were known to be MGIF / road rage-y types also: “and the driving is like the driving of Jehu the son of Nimshi; for he driveth furiously”.
I would have had someone
I would have had someone standing outside with a big placard with
Arrow -> To church left, left, left
And another arrow <- right, right, right 2 minutes Then given everyone in the service a printout. Just need to do this for a few weeks, 15 minutes either side of the start time.
Why is this not the will of
Why is this not the will of god?
don simon fbpe wrote:
Pffffft! It’s clearly satanism in all but name with the wicked forces of hell trying to tempt the pastor’s flock into the wild abandon and lawlessness of cycling.
None shall be weary nor
None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken… their wheels [are] like a whirlwind. (Isaiah 5:27-28)
“Make me to know your ways, O
“Make me to know your ways, O LORD; teach me your paths.” – Psalm 25:4
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Vicar on a bike
Vicar on a bike
https://bsky.app/profile/fatherhilarious.blog/post/3lmdecmajws2t
And in the Netherlands, they
And in the Netherlands, they’re blessing them!
(This was donated bikes for refugees. Providing bikes is very useful because it’s a major way of getting about over there apparently…)
I think you’ll find that
I think you’ll find that refugees most places are often very grateful for a bike.
Especially here where asylum seekers are basically given nothing at all beyond a somewhere to sleep at night and subsistence level food.
We donated a spare bike to an asylum seeker at our church and she cried with gratitude, she was being housed in a hotel several miles from town and had no other way to get places, couldn’t even afford public transport.
https://thebikeproject.co.uk/
https://thebikeproject.co.uk/
this project in London does the same – if anyone has any unused bikes they would like to donate.
Turns out that the ways the
Turns out that the ways the Grand Fromage upstairs moves in aren’t that strange after all.
Reminds me of this print from
Reminds me of this print from Blacklodge Press