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“Do you pay road tax?” GB News host admits he jumps red lights while cycling; Reckless driver avoids sentencing after taking injured cyclist to hospital; Belfast bike-rentals soar; Rwanda Worlds round-up + more on the live blog

Callum’s here to guide you through your Tuesday and all the cycling stories it may bring
  • by Callum Devereux
Tue, Sep 23, 2025 09:04
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SUMMARY

  • Unsafe driver spared ban due to "family hardship"
  • Belfast bike hire quintuples in price as e-bike rollout begins
  • Rwanda Worlds round-up: young Dutch courage triumphs
  • 'Lached' in: Endurance cyclist Morton heads to Yorkshire.
  • Driver's case struck off after taking injured cyclist to hospital
  • Hand-cycling to Paris
  • "Don't brake!": Van der Poel's advice to Philipsen as the Belgian dabbles off-road
  • "Do you pay road tax?": GB News host admits he jumps red lights while cycling during debate on cyclist “crackdown”
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23 September 2025, 09:04

Unsafe driver spared ban due to "family hardship"

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A Chadwell Heath driver has avoided a driving ban after admitting to overtaking a cyclist without due care and attention.

Abdul Noim was driving a BMW X5 SUV on the single-carriageway A487 in Pembrokeshire when he overtook the cyclist at an unsafe speed, distance and without leaving his own lane, as reported by the Ilford Recorder.

But after the court heard Mr Noim needed to take his family to and from school as well as medical appointments, he was handed six points on his license rather than receiving an eight week driving ban. He was also ordered to pay £543 in fines and surcharges.

23 September 2025, 09:04

Belfast bike hire quintuples in price as e-bike rollout begins

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Beryl Transport for Greater Manchester (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Beryl Transport for Greater Manchester
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Beryl bikes have already been rolled out in Greater Manchester. (Transport for Greater Manchester)

 

Those of you living in Greater Manchester, Birmingham or Leeds might have become familiar with the Beryl hire bikes over the last couple of years. Well now they’ve taken over the bike hire scheme in Belfast, but not without a hitch. 

Rolled out at the weekend, the cost of an annual subscription has skyrocketed from £25 to £120. A standard 20 minute Pay As You Go (PAYG) ride has also nearly doubled in price.

Beryl’s Chief Executive told the BBC the pricing was “pretty competitive” but added that “If we’ve got it wrong, we’ll have to do something about it.”

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Beryl e-bike (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Beryl e-bike
Beryl e-bike (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

Part of the increase in time-period ‘bundle purchases’ is due to the rollout of electric bikes across the city. These rolling subscriptions apply the same price point to both standard and electric hire bikes, unlike the PAYG scheme which charges separate rates.

A 20 minute bike ride on a standard ‘pedal’ bike will cost £1.90 whereas an electric bike ride of the same length will cost £3.80, a similar price to bus tickets. That includes an ‘unlocking fee’ to start your ride, coupled with a rolling rate. E-bike users will have to pay an additional £1 unlocking fee as part of each e-bike ride taken in a monthly, quarterly or annual pass. Using the bikes also requires downloading and creating an account on the Beryl app.

23 September 2025, 09:04

23 September 2025, 09:04

23 September 2025, 09:04

Rwanda Worlds round-up: young Dutch courage triumphs

Marlen Reusser wins 2025 world time trial championships, Kigali, Rwanda
Marlen Reusser wins 2025 world time trial championships, Kigali, Rwanda (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
Marlen Reusser wins 2025 world time trial championships, Kigali, Rwanda
Marlen Reusser wins 2025 world time trial championships, Kigali, Rwanda (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

The World Championships in Rwanda are continuing and after yesterday’s under-23 TTs, today’s the turn of the next generation to show their worth.

On the women’s side, the steep cobbled climb of the Cote de Kimihurura two kilometres from the finish was perfect for former junior Tour of Flanders runner-up Megan Arens, the 18-year old able to extend her two second lead at the intermediate time check to 35 seconds at the finish line. Both British entrants, Erin Boothman and Abi Miller, finished in the top-10.

The men will get underway shortly, with the USA’s Ashlin Barry among the favourites. The 17-year old son of former US Postal, Team Columbia, and Sky domestique Michael Barry is already signed to Visma – Lease a Bike’s development team for next year and finished second in Junior Paris-Roubaix and E3 earlier in the year. Britain’s Dylan Sage and Max Hinds will be hoping to give Barry a run for his money, both have been rumoured to join Ineos’ new development team that is due to be up and running next year.

23 September 2025, 09:04

'Lached' in: Endurance cyclist Morton heads to Yorkshire.

Road cyclist turned ultra endurance extraordinaire Lachlan Morton is coming to Yorkshire this weekend to race cyclocross!

The Australian will be returning to tackle the Three Peaks Cyclocross race that is considered the hardest ‘cross course in the UK. Morton previously entered the race in 2019, finishing 4th. The event, more than 60 years old, is 61km long and will see riders summitting the mountains of Ingleborough, Whernside and Pen Y-Ghent.

Lachlan Morton at the Three Peaks (Rapha)
Lachlan Morton at the Three Peaks (Rapha) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Lachlan Morton at the Three Peaks (Rapha)
Lachlan Morton at the Three Peaks (Rapha) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Morton, still contracted with his old road team of EF Education-EasyPost, has in recent years completed a series of alternative sporting challenges, including riding the entire Tour de France route (plus transfers) faster than the peloton, setting a new record for circumnavigating Australia, and winning the Unbound Gravel race. The Three Peaks is surely a natural sporting progression…

23 September 2025, 09:04

Driver's case struck off after taking injured cyclist to hospital

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Some interesting news from Ireland now where a woman who reported herself for reckless driving after a cyclist ran into her car door has had her case struck off.

The Irish Independent describes Cherry Mae Vente as a “good Samaritan” after she took the cyclist to hospital and then took him home after he sustained two cracked ribs and a fractured collarbone.

The cyclist never reported the incident but police in County Kerry were obliged to press charges following Ms Vente’s admission of careless driving. The case was struck off the record however after her solicitor presented the case in court.

23 September 2025, 09:04

23 September 2025, 09:04

Hand-cycling to Paris

Something nice to bring you now and it’s an epic fundraising campaign that has already raised more than £200,000.

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In 2012, Danny Turnbull handcycled to Paris. A lawyer by profession, he was also paraplegic. His effort defied event organisers who thought such a feat wouldn’t be possible. The event is now known as the ‘No Limits’ London to Paris ride in recognition of Danny’s achievements before he died of cancer in 2017.

In his memory, a team of 60 will set off on Friday to recreate his journey and raise money for the spinal injury charity Back Up, of which Danny was a patron. The three-day mission will be headed by Danny’s widow Susie, and will be undertaken by Danny’s friends, family, solicitors from his law firm and five hand-cyclists following in his wheeltreads. 

“Despite how difficult it was, completing the ride demonstrated exactly what Danny was trying to prove; that if you believe you can do it, you can find a way.” Susie says. 

“That’s what this ride is now, it’s a platform for people to challenge and overcome their own limits and to demonstrate that life can go on after a spinal injury.”

The participants have set a goal of £500,000 with the money going towards expanding Back Up’s outreach services to help those who can’t rely on the NHS. It’s a worthy goal and one which we wish everyone involved the very best of luck with.

23 September 2025, 09:04

"Don't brake!": Van der Poel's advice to Philipsen as the Belgian dabbles off-road

 
 
 
 
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As long as Paris-Roubaix is on the calendar it does no harm to brush up on bike handling, and in his teammate and three-time winner of the race, Jasper Philipsen has the best source of wisdom he could ask for. Just maybe don’t rely on him so much for MTB…

Incredibly horrifying crash by cycling legend Mathieu van der Poel in the #Olympics mountain bike race. Oh, and he got back up and is still riding. pic.twitter.com/yLPxdROweI

— Remko Rinkema (@RemkoRinkema) July 26, 2021

23 September 2025, 09:04

23 September 2025, 09:04

"Do you pay road tax?": GB News host admits he jumps red lights while cycling during debate on cyclist “crackdown”

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When transport journalist Carlton Reid tweeted (Bluesky-d?) that GB News were hosting a debate on their breakfast show about cyclists this morning, we braced for the usual onslaught.

GB News will be ranting about cyclists tomorrow morning. I declined the producer’s invitation.

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— Carlton Reid (@carltonreid.com) 22 September 2025 at 18:54

It followed a heated sparring yesterday between GB News presenters Tom Harwood and Nana Akua following reports that punishments for skipping red lights in London were going to be harshened.

In truth, that’s not quite the story. It’s only City of London Police that are considering tougher measures, and they only cover a square mile in the centre of the city (the rest of London is governed by the Metropolitan Police). The proposed change is to increase the maximum fine above £50.

Still, with Harwood revealing himself to be a cyclist, he suggested he could skip red lights when pedestrians weren’t around, kickstarting the following exchange:

Akua: The safest way is for everyone to follow the same rules. Because let’s say something happens that you haven’t spotted, you cause an accident and someone gets hurt. What insurance do you have? Do you pay road tax?

Hill climb graffiti Pay your road tax (Image Ali McLean)
Hill climb graffiti Pay your road tax (Image Ali McLean) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Hill climb graffiti Pay your road tax (Image Ali McLean)
Hill climb graffiti Pay your road tax (Image Ali McLean) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Harwood: I do for my car, but not for my bike.

Akua: Exactly. And that’s the problem.

In what went on to be a fairly serene discussion on the merits of Amsterdam-style bike lanes, the road tax quip stood out. 

Road tax, as a tax that explicitly and exclusively funds the roads, has not existed since 1937. The Vehicle Excise Duty that has more-or-less existed since 1920 only applies to motor vehicles. Cyclists do not pay it because they are not able to pay it. Whilst there was a brief period under the previous government when a ‘National Roads Fund’ was created from the Vehicle Excise Duty fund, that was dissolved in spring last year and roads continue to be funded by general taxation that all of us pay.

The excise duty is also variable with zero and lower emission vehicles paying less than high-polluting and older motors. With no carbon footprint and significantly reduced impact on road deterioration, cyclists would not need to pay the excise duty.

Still, this morning the debate went on and presenters Eamonn Holmes and Penny Smith moderated a discussion between motoring journalist Amanda Stretton and Stop Killing Cyclists co-founder Donnachadh McCarthy. Thankfully the debate was civil and resulted in agreement between the two over the respective responsibilities of drivers and cyclists on the road. It was a slightly heartening exchange, and diminished the ‘rage-baiting’ spectacle that Carlton Reid feared the whole thing might become.

My reply: “I don’t do rage bait.” My reasoning: “Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.” Quote by Shannon L. Alder

— Carlton Reid (@carltonreid.com) 22 September 2025 at 19:04

23 September 2025, 09:04

The bike industry has not been in a great place lately. On Saturday we reported on a York bike shop that's closing after 45 years. Then yesterday evening, Sigma Sports recorded further losses

Cycling retailer Sigma Sports halves losses to £925,000 and insists 2024 was "positive" despite cost-of-living crisis, inflation and inventory woes battering bike industry

Cycling retailer Sigma Sports halves losses to £925,000 and insists 2024 was "positive" despite cost-of-living crisis, inflation and inventory woes battering bike industry

Sigma Sports confident it is "leading premium retailer" in the bike industry but predicts "backdrop of UK's economy to remain challenging" this year

23 September 2025, 09:04

Donald Trump cancels grants for bike lanes because they're "hostile to motor vehicles"

Donald Trump cancels grants for bike lanes because they're "hostile to motor vehicles"

US President's administration insists bike lanes go against their "priority of preserving or increasing roadway capacity for motor vehicles"

23 September 2025, 09:04

New 'dangerous cycling' laws are on the way, but government confirms "no plans" to make speed limits apply to cyclists

New 'dangerous cycling' laws are on the way, but government confirms "no plans" to make speed limits apply to cyclists

Home Office says penalties for "people who cause serious harm because of their bad cycling behaviour" will be brought in line with driving offences and maximum sentence for causing death by dangerous cycling will be life imprisonment

23 September 2025, 09:04

Near Miss of the Day 937: Cyclist riding two-abreast with daughter close passed by driver towing caravan who blared horn at riders

Near Miss of the Day 937: Cyclist riding two-abreast with daughter close passed by driver towing caravan who blared horn at riders

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Callum Devereux
Callum is a News Writer for road.cc, having initially joined as a freelance journalist in September 2025. He is also a Road Book contributor and has written for the almanac since 2023. He has a master’s degree in Broadcast Journalism from Cardiff University, where his dissertation focused on Geraint Thomas’ retirement and the boom and bust of the domestic racing calendar. He also has a degree in Scandinavian Studies & Politics which is somehow even more niche.

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25 thoughts on ““Do you pay road tax?” GB News host admits he jumps red lights while cycling; Reckless driver avoids sentencing after taking injured cyclist to hospital; Belfast bike-rentals soar; Rwanda Worlds round-up + more on the live blog”

  1. the little onion
    September 23, 2025 at 9:49 am
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    to save you the googling, a

    to save you the googling, a new BMW x5 bought without financing will cost £68k to £115k. Second hand and financing are of course options, but if you can afford that car, you can afford taxis.

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    • mitsky
      September 23, 2025 at 10:19 am
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      Though it begs the questions:

      Though it begs the questions:

      – how much more is the insurance for a driver with points, assuming an insurer will provide cover…
      – will such an increase be too much for the driver 

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      • mctrials23
        September 23, 2025 at 11:18 am
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        Asking the real questions.

        Asking the real questions. Perhaps we should all contribute to a national fund to help these poor bellends victimised motorists to afford their insurance.

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      • Oldfatgit
        September 23, 2025 at 12:19 pm
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        will such an increase be too
        will such an increase be too much for the driver

        – will such a driver care, and skip this step?

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    • bikeman01
      September 23, 2025 at 11:44 am
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      the little onion wrote:

      to save you the googling, a new BMW x5 bought without financing will cost £68k to £115k. Second hand and financing are of course options, but if you can afford that car, you can afford taxis.

      — the little onion

      They do lose their value quickly so can be picked up for the cost of a cheap banger these days.

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      • slc
        September 23, 2025 at 12:51 pm
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        Ilford Recorder. “Abdul Noim,

        Ilford Recorder. “Abdul Noim, 51, of Saville Road in Chadwell Heath, admitted driving without due care and attention in a BMW X5. “

        At least the law has been sensibly adjusted to make special offenses for BMW X5 drivers. Teslas and Discos next, I hope.

         

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    • Bigfoz
      September 23, 2025 at 12:36 pm
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      Cheapest x5 on eBay is ~£1

      Cheapest x5 on eBay is ~£1,300. They’ve been around 20+years now…

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    • Legin
      September 23, 2025 at 3:40 pm
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      He lives in Chadwell Heath so

      He lives in Chadwell Heath so within striking distance of 5 Railway Stations, 4 Underground Stations and numerous major bus routes….. oh the hardship!

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  2. Hirsute
    September 23, 2025 at 10:40 am
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    Harwood: I do for my car, but
    Harwood: I do for my car, but not for my bike.

    Akua: Exactly. And that’s the problem.

    My current ved is £0
    I am part of the problem.
    I guess the idea that different types of road user pay different amounts is too nuanced for gbeebies.

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    • OnYerBike
      September 23, 2025 at 11:25 am
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      I’m sure I’m preaching to the

      I’m sure I’m preaching to the choir here, but the other important point is that VED is not “road tax” – the funds received go to the Treasury as general taxation and are not ringfenced for any specific purpose. This has been the case since the Road Fund was abolished in 1936, so it’s not exactly a recent change.

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      • Pub bike
        September 23, 2025 at 11:40 am
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        Similarly pedestrians don’t

        Similarly pedestrians don’t pay pedestrian tax and so shouldn’t be allowed to use the footway.

        It is a poor argument because some things are included in general taxation because it is simpler, fairer, and more cost effective that way.  Collecting predicated taxes or distributing means tested benefits costs money.  This used to be the argument for not means-testing the winter fuel payment.  Times change though.  Maybe we will get the pedestrian tax after all.

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        • Hirsute
          September 23, 2025 at 12:40 pm
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          The poll tax ?
          The poll tax ?

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      • bikeman01
        September 23, 2025 at 11:44 am
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        Does it really matter that

        Does it really matter that proponents of the ‘cyclists dont pay road tax’ get the name wrong? Motorists are taxed for their vehicles and resent that cyclists are not. They are wrong but getting pedantic over the name wont help

        Why not just respond by asking what amount they think cyclists should pay, would it also apply to children, would it apply to zero emission vehicles, tractors, horses, what would it cost to collect and would its collection get them to shut the fk up?

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        • Clem Fandango
          September 23, 2025 at 11:56 am
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          Equally, “motorists” (ie the

          Equally, “motorists” (ie the frothing non cyclist type) also enjoy the same freedom/rights that everyone else does to operate a bicycle, horse or pair of shoes on a public highway without being subjected to VED.  Not my fault they choose not to do so.

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          • perce
            September 23, 2025 at 12:14 pm
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            I agree.

            I agree.

          • chrisonabike
            September 23, 2025 at 12:26 pm
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            Clem Fandango wrote:

            Equally, “motorists” (ie the frothing non cyclist type) also enjoy the same freedom/rights that everyone else does to operate a bicycle, horse or pair of shoes on a public highway without being subjected to VED.

            — Clem Fandango

            … and while those who drive pay specific taxes those don’t cover the full costs of the activity (see “externalities of motoring”…

    • mitsky
      September 23, 2025 at 12:30 pm
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      Whoever uses the term “road

      Whoever uses the term “road tax” needs to be corrected each time.

      This time on GB News was a lost opportunity.
      The correct response should have been:
      “You don’t pay road tax. No one does. It does not exist.”
      With a brief explanation of what VED is, which would have hopefully ended the conversation.
      If the idiot says they did, then they can be asked to show a reciept stating “Road Tax” which they won’t be able to do.

      Not forgetting this incident:
      https://youtu.be/S7enDsD5bpc

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  3. mctrials23
    September 23, 2025 at 11:21 am
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    I would love to see people

    I would love to see people sue the police or whoever is responsible for leaving these people on our roads when they go and hurt of kill someone because they were spared a ban due to the “hardship” it would cause them. 

    At what point does this excuse not fly? Going to prison will cause families hardship. Perhaps we shouldn’t do that any more. If you care about your family then you shouldn’t be driving in a way that will get yourself banned and if you aren’t a generally uncaring cunt then perhaps you shouldn’t be directly putting peoples lives at risk for 0 reason.

    Perhaps the fact that you got caught when the chances of getting caught are so slim suggests that this is a pattern of behaviour and you are doing it so frequently that somehow you beat the odds and did get caught. 

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    • mitsky
      September 23, 2025 at 12:20 pm
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      100%

      100%

      The interesting/annoying thing is there are many actions that would fail a learner driver on their practical test and thus mean they are not allowed to drive (without an instructor or other adult).
      But as soon as a person passes, those same dangerous driving faults are deemed to not be worthy of disqualification. 

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      • mctrials23
        September 23, 2025 at 2:10 pm
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        Oh its completely ridiculous.

        Oh its completely ridiculous. “Sorry madam, you have failed your test for a single major error. Oh no, you could do that a dozen times every journey and you wouldn’t likely be caught or have your license revoked even if you were once you have passed. We just need to make sure that you can drive safely one time for an hour or so.”

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  4. M20MAMIL
    September 23, 2025 at 1:14 pm
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    Breaking: Cyclist killed in

    Breaking: Cyclist killed in Manchester 

    Cyclist dies in north Manchester crash
    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/cyclist-dies-north-manchester-crash-32533884?utm_source=app

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  5. MaxiMinimalist
    September 23, 2025 at 3:12 pm
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    “…after the court heard Mr
    “…after the court heard Mr Noim needed to take his family to and from school as well as medical appointments, …” Motorists are de jure allowed to drive recklessly and endanger other road users provided they drive their family to medical appointments. This is an open invitation to more irresponsible behaviours behind the wheel.

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    • Eton Rifle
      September 24, 2025 at 11:42 am
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      It’s utterly ridiculous. If
      It’s utterly ridiculous. If he can afford to run a wankpanzer, he can afford a few bus tickets.

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      • Rendel Harris
        September 24, 2025 at 12:09 pm
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        Eton Rifle wrote:

        It’s utterly ridiculous. If he can afford to run a wankpanzer, he can afford a few bus tickets.

        — Eton Rifle

        Without defending the twat in any way, the “exceptional hardship” defence is almost never about being unable to afford alternative transport (I think I’ve only seen it raised for people living way out in the country with no public transport saying how much constant cabs will cost them) but about logistics, I won’t be able to get little Tommy to school five miles away on the bus and get back in time to take granny to her regular physiotherapy appointment and after that put in my usual twelve hours volunteering at the soup kitchen. Exemption is usually asked for (and given far too often) on practical, rather than economic, grounds.

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        • chrisonabike
          September 24, 2025 at 12:23 pm
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          It’s the white van man’s
          It’s the white van man’s burden. Care-cars.
          Turns out everyone only ever drives for others – as a company manager for their employees, as a carer for elderly and/or disabled relatives or friends. For their children, their children’s ponies, their sick cats, dogs, ferrets…

          Why should these innocents suffer? Surely *having to drive* is effectively “community service” by itself, so not only should they not lose their licence but doing all that involuntary driving should be the whole of the punishment *. They can pay their debt to society *and* do some rehabilitation for their bad driving by … driving!

          * That and having to live with the knowledge of what they’ve done…

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Latest Comments

jackcycles 4 hours ago

The problem with roadcc's coverage of Nick Freeman is that it's focusing too much on his controversial hot takes, rather than the well-known work he's done road safety campaigning. For balance, Nick has been very vocal recently on the dangers posed by electric cars for cyclists and pedestrians, writing (on X): "Pedestrians, cyclists and other vulnerable road users often rely on hearing an approaching vehicle. That’s why I believe EVs should emit synthesised warning sounds at all speeds, not just low speeds. Road safety must always come first." I think we can all unite around that sentiment rather than the more divisive number plates argument which I disagree with. Nick thinks that "accountability" comes with identifiability. I agree to some extent, but you have to balance the risks posed by a form of transport with the loss of freedom and increase in state power resulting in having mandatory identity numbers. Cycling doesn't even come close.

in: “This is exactly why cyclists should have number plates,” says Mr Loophole – after “arrogant” cyclist fined £1,200 for squeezing between cars (while riding without a licence plate); Cyclist in outside lane of 70mph dual carriageway + more on the live blog
Xenophon2 7 hours ago

@HarrogateSpa : Exactly. Clickbait articles such as this to keep the advertisers happy.

in: “This is exactly why cyclists should have number plates,” says Mr Loophole – after “arrogant” cyclist fined £1,200 for squeezing between cars (while riding without a licence plate); Cyclist in outside lane of 70mph dual carriageway + more on the live blog
chrisonabike 8 hours ago

@hawkinspeter Hmm... while there is sensible stuff in there it's even better where the design and human nature carries more of the weight than rules or guidance. Speed limits being one; if it was just on the rules that would be a lesser way of ensuring safety than the road / space design. (Of course just changing a number on a sign *does* work to some extent, presumably in part via the "anchoring" effect and "when in Rome"). I'm thinking more of what we have in eg. UK motorway-design-level thought and applying that *. One example would be the Dutch taking the observation that a certain fraction of people will make dangerous overtake no matter the rules, paint or even considerations of their own safety and a muffed overtake can have very severe consequences ... and then simply banning overtaking on some classes of roads (and even bringing in physical barriers some places). Hey presto - a whole class of problems they don't have! (It's not perfect of course, lots of legacy roads there). * Only some classes of vehicles allowed, everyone going the same direction with no crossing traffic or stopping / parking, rumble strips at edges, energy absorbing crash barriers, curved layout to stop people falling asleep...

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
ktache 8 hours ago

I liked his graphs.

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
Rendel Harris 9 hours ago

And yet not three weeks ago you were actively canvassing likes. Good liars need good memories, Nigel.

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
hawkinspeter 9 hours ago

@chrisonabike - the Highway Code is a good example of fool-tolerant rules. The emphasis is on how to minimise causing danger to others, but also avoiding collisions even if the other road users are being arseholes (e.g. not running over cyclists even if they're blatantly cycling on the wrong side of the road)

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
jackcycles 9 hours ago

Bless you, I didn't realise you place your self-worth on the number of likes you receive on an internet forum. I've never yearned for the approval of others, I'm just satisfied in the knowledge that I've constructed a coherent and noteworthy post. The best one I've done so far was the one I gave with your pipe, ale and suggestion to move to my leafy cul de sac. I have to admit I cheekily read it back to myself a few times and chuckled *every single time*!

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
chrisonabike 10 hours ago

Yeah, I think you're right, it did get a bit more "oh yeah? Well what about this?!" latterly. There's a lot more polarising going on. I blame myself. And the unicyclists.

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
mdavidford 10 hours ago

"They want us all locked in our homes...!" "Not all, only some..."

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
chrisonabike 10 hours ago

@hawkinspeter fool-tolerant design? Fool-foiling designs sound better but they tend to have unfortunate side-effects - at least when combined with human nature *. "Sustainable Safety" - design expecting mistakes and some rule-breaking eg. corner-cutting - but be *forgiving*. That means while *feedback* is provided (see adverse camber, slightly uneven driving surface etc) favour "everyone gets to their destination safely" over "the rules must be respected even at risk of collateral damage!" The penalty for failure shouldn't be serious injury or death. * Few want to be thought a fool and some may prove it if they believe that assumption was made.

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that

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