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“Are there any bearings left?”: Bike mechanic doesn’t recommend “novel lubricant” found in cyclist’s Cervélo… after half a beach’s worth of grit and sand falls from headset; Strava crackdown on segment cheats; Giro sprint stage + more on the live blog

There’s another bank holiday weekend around the corner, just two days to go… Dan Alexander will be getting you through Thursday with the usual live blog round-up of all the news, reaction and silliness from the cycling world today
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, May 22, 2025 08:09
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  • Strava removes 4.45m activities to "uphold fair and legitimate leaderboards"
  • Rick Astley x Tao Geoghegan Hart
  • "It was a very, very tough stage": Richard Carapaz basks in glory of Giro stage win
  • World Health Organisation: Urgent action needed to reduce road deaths and make walking and cycling safe to unlock huge health, life and green gains
  • Zurich to open major new cycling tunnel and parking facility
  • Jamie's top tips for extra long days in the saddle
  • Today's Facebook Marketplace find — aero gains from a bygone era
  • Best value bike upgrades we'd actually spend money on — from cassettes, to handlebars, to simply swapping your inner tubes
  • "The riders saw Tottenham win the Europa League yesterday, and now everybody thinks that this could be their day!": Giro d'Italia social media admin cracks the jokes
  • "What is good for the Tour, is also good for the champions of the Tour": Tour de France boss defends inclusion of Montmartre climb in final stage after Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel and Wout van Aert raise safety concerns
  • Cycle hire scheme set to return to Edinburgh streets, as Lime and Dott in the running to operate dockless e-bike scheme
  • Olav Kooij sprints to Giro stage win after imperious Wout van Aert leadout
  • "Are there any bearings left?": Bike mechanic doesn't recommend "novel lubricant" found in cyclist's Cervélo... after half a beach's worth of grit and sand falls from headset
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22 May 2025, 08:09

Strava removes 4.45m activities to "uphold fair and legitimate leaderboards"

Strava activity flagged
Strava activity flagged (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Strava activity flagged
Strava activity flagged (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Strava says its attempts to crack down on segment cheats and inaccurate data are “ongoing” (no mention if helping Telegraph journos to avoid making fools of themselves is one of the reasons why).

The ride-sharing app says it is continuing to use its machine learning model, first launched in February, to reprocess the top 10 spots on ride and run leaderboards.

A spokesperson said this effort has removed 4.45 million activities with the wrong sport type or recorded in vehicles so far, and has helped to rightfully restore KOMs and QOMs to reflect true performances.

Sorry ‘Marco Pantani’, your ride has been flagged…

'Marco Pantani' takes Alpe d'Huez Strava KOM
'Marco Pantani' takes Alpe d'Huez Strava KOM (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
'Marco Pantani' takes Alpe d'Huez Strava KOM
'Marco Pantani' takes Alpe d'Huez Strava KOM (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

No, guys, not that one…

Tadej Pogacar 2021 Lombardia flagged (Strava)
Tadej Pogacar 2021 Lombardia flagged (Strava) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tadej Pogacar 2021 Lombardia flagged (Strava)
Tadej Pogacar 2021 Lombardia flagged (Strava) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Only joking, that wasn’t the work of the Strava model, presumably just some jealous amateur from Bergamo who lost their KOM…

22 May 2025, 08:09

Rick Astley x Tao Geoghegan Hart

The internet’s weird sometimes…

 
 
 
 
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22 May 2025, 08:09

"It was a very, very tough stage": Richard Carapaz basks in glory of Giro stage win

2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz
2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz
2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Richard Carapaz might be one of the more underrated riders of the current generation. He’s often flown slightly under the radar in the era of Pog, Vingegaard, Remco, Van der Poel and Van Aert — but the Ecuadorian’s wins now stand at one Olympic gold medal, one Giro d’Italia, three Grand Tour podiums including a third-place at the Tour, eight Grand Tour stages (four Giro, one Tour, three Vuelta) and a Tour de France mountains jersey.

Yesterday’s latest victory was a typical Carapaz raid, the climber’s determination to make something work seeing him fly up the final five per cent slopes at 30km/h+ before gritting his teeth and getting it done as the group got closer behind. 

“We left it very late to make the move today,” he admitted. “It was a very, very tough stage. And from the very first climb, I saw that so many people were suffering and I knew that I didn’t have good legs but I chose the right moment because I knew that I could select the group and I could also make it to the finish. And it was almost like a time trial to make it all the way home today.”

2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz
2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)
2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz
2025 Giro d'Italia stage 11 Richard Carapaz (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)

Reflecting on the day, EF Education EasyPost sports director Juanma Gárate praised Carapaz’s mental strength.

“Obviously after yesterday’s TT, we lost a little bit more time than we expected but the determination he has is amazing and we didn’t have any doubts that he would keep on fighting,” Gárate said.

“He takes everything very seriously. He does everything in a very professional way. We started talking about the Giro already in September last year right after the Vuelta. The spring was not very good but he raised his hand and said, ‘I’m going to prepare for the Giro. I’m going to be good, so believe I’m going to be there’.” 

22 May 2025, 08:09

World Health Organisation: Urgent action needed to reduce road deaths and make walking and cycling safe to unlock huge health, life and green gains

New cycle lane, planters, benches on West Blackhall Street, Greenock
New cycle lane, planters, benches on West Blackhall Street, Greenock (Image Credit: Sustrans)
New cycle lane, planters, benches on West Blackhall Street, Greenock
New cycle lane, planters, benches on West Blackhall Street, Greenock (Image Credit: Sustrans)

The World Health Organisation (WHO) has called on world leaders to prioritise making walking and cycling safe to “unlock huge health, life and green gains”. To mark the 8th UN Global Road Safety Week the organisation has demanded “urgent action to reduce road deaths and boost road safety”.

“More than a quarter of the nearly 1.2 million annual road deaths occur among people moving on foot or by bicycle,” the WHO said. “The risk is remarkably high in low and middle-income countries, where millions face huge risks each day as they walk to work or school on streets with no sidewalks, and no safe places to cross busy roads. Just a tiny fraction of the world’s roads — far less than one per cent — have safe cycle lanes.”

The WHO says the danger to vulnerable road users is rising in many regions and cited stats showing that between 2011 and 2021 pedestrian deaths increased by 42 per cent in the WHO South-East Asia Region, while fatalities among cyclists rose by 50 per cent in the European Region and surged by 88 per cent in the WHO Western Pacific Region.

“We need urgent action to make walking and cycling safe, and to succeed our efforts must be part of the tried, tested and proven ‘safe system’ approach to road safety. This takes a holistic approach to designing transport systems and makes human life — and human safety — the priority.”

The WHO has called for governments to follow its Global Plan for the Decade of Action for Road Safety 2021-2030 and says “if we walk this path, we will prevent millions of deaths and injuries”.

“We will also unlock a treasure trove of knock-on benefits for health, life and sustainable development around the world,” the organisation added.

22 May 2025, 08:09

Zurich to open major new cycling tunnel and parking facility

Zurich cycling tunnel
Zurich cycling tunnel (Image Credit: Stadt Zurich)
Zurich cycling tunnel
Zurich cycling tunnel (Image Credit: Stadt Zurich)

The city of Zurich in Switzerland is later today opening its new cycling tunnel and bike parking facility. No dodgy shared-use infra and painted cycle lanes here…

Zurich cycling tunnel
Zurich cycling tunnel (Image Credit: Stadt Zurich)
Zurich cycling tunnel
Zurich cycling tunnel (Image Credit: Stadt Zurich)

Originally the shell of the tunnel was formed with the intention of building three new highways that would lead into the heart of Zurich, however that project was never implemented and policy makers decided to turn the tunnel shell into a major new cycling connection instead.

Zurich cycling tunnel
Zurich cycling tunnel (Image Credit: Stadt Zurich)
Zurich cycling tunnel
Zurich cycling tunnel (Image Credit: Stadt Zurich)

It cost 38.6 million Swiss francs (around £35m) and takes cyclists 440 metres from Kasernenstrasse to Sihlquai, creating an underground route between the city’s 4th and 5th districts. There will be 1,240 secure and free bike parking spaces and some of that parking connects directly to the Sihlquai passage at the main train station in Zurich to “provide cyclists with even faster access to public transport”.

22 May 2025, 08:09

22 May 2025, 08:09

Jamie's top tips for extra long days in the saddle

> I’ve just completed my longest bike rides ever — here are 10 things I wish I knew before starting them

22 May 2025, 08:09

Today's Facebook Marketplace find — aero gains from a bygone era

Not only does Jo like his Insta feed to be full of mechanical problems and despairing mechanics, he also enjoys a bit of Facebook Marketplace browsing, so it wasn’t really a surprise to see him forward this on for the blog…

Facebook Marketplace bike
Facebook Marketplace bike (Image Credit: Facebook)
Facebook Marketplace bike
Facebook Marketplace bike (Image Credit: Facebook)

My body’s in bits just looking at that. The London seller is after £1,099 for this, but says they’re open to offers. It comes “like new”.

“Hello, this is my very rare lo pro bike that was made by a very well known frame builder N. Cowley,” the seller says. “This was the bike that has broken the 100-mile record thus has fun history behind it. I am the third owner of the bike so it hasn’t been moved around much and has been looked after with a lot of care. YES it is expensive as it has very rare and ‘museum worthy’ components and the frame itself is very rare.”

Facebook Marketplace bike
Facebook Marketplace bike (Image Credit: Facebook)
Facebook Marketplace bike
Facebook Marketplace bike (Image Credit: Facebook)

It’s a 56cm Columbus Midas Special lo pro frame with a Mavic Challenger aluminium disc wheel. The original tri bars are still attached and it’s got 105 cranks, carbon Look pedals, Fizik saddle and Vittoria tyres. Any takers? The full listing’s here…

As Joe put it: “When TT bikes were TT bikes and you had to do a week of stretching and core work just to climb on…”

22 May 2025, 08:09

Best value bike upgrades we'd actually spend money on — from cassettes, to handlebars, to simply swapping your inner tubes

Best value bike upgrades we'd actually spend money on May 2025
Best value bike upgrades we'd actually spend money on May 2025 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Best value bike upgrades we'd actually spend money on May 2025
Best value bike upgrades we'd actually spend money on May 2025 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Best value bike upgrades we’d actually spend money on — from cassettes, to handlebars, to simply swapping your inner tubes

22 May 2025, 08:09

"The riders saw Tottenham win the Europa League yesterday, and now everybody thinks that this could be their day!": Giro d'Italia social media admin cracks the jokes

🏆 The riders saw Tottenham win the #UEL yesterday, and now, everybody thinks that this could be their day! #GirodItalia pic.twitter.com/LwUZRaVrQN

— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 22, 2025

Tough day to be a Manchester United-backing Ineos Grenadiers boss. We’re heading for a sprint in Viadana, a three-man break of Italian riders from VF Group – Bardiani CSF – Faizanè, Arkéa – B&B Hotels, and Team Polti VisitMalta being kept within two minutes by the peloton. The next 100km shouldn’t be too eventful, although the roads are damp, so let’s hope there aren’t any spills when the pace ramps up in a couple of hours.

22 May 2025, 08:09

"What is good for the Tour, is also good for the champions of the Tour": Tour de France boss defends inclusion of Montmartre climb in final stage after Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel and Wout van Aert raise safety concerns

2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)

Scenes like these can be expected on the final stage of the Tour de France this summer, the race opting to include the Montmartre climb that lit up last summer’s Olympic road races. As we told you the other day, there’ll be three ascents, the final of which will top out with six kilometres until the finish, which will remain on the Champs-Élysées.

Some have been critical of the climb’s inclusion, Wout van Aert calling it “dangerous”, even if it would suit a rider of his abilities.

2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)

“I’m not really a fan of it. I think it’s going to be a dangerous stage,” Van Aert told Sporza. “We arrived there during the Games with a peloton of 50 riders and now with an entire Tour peloton, where many classification riders still have something to defend. I expect chaos, I think it’s a shame that we’re going to seek that out.

“I understand that the organisation thought ‘That looks cool, we should try to use that’, but in recent years, safety has increasingly become an issue, and this choice for Montmartre ignores this.”

Van Aert’s teammate Jonas Vingegaard and Remco Evenepoel have also raised concerns about its inclusion, that despite the climb acting as the launch pad for the Belgian’s gold medal-winning attack at the Olympics. He says its use at the Tour de France is “unnecessary”.

2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre
2024 Olympic Games road race Montmartre (Image Credit: SWpix.com/Zac Williams)

However, race director Christian Prudhomme disagrees and told Sporza, “What is good for the Tour, is also good for the champions of the Tour.” It isn’t clear, in fact it’s quite obvious from the champions’ views that they don’t believe it is good for the race, but Prudhomme insists it will, essentially telling the peloton ‘I get the final say’.

“This will further increase the prestige of the Tour all over the world,” he said. “It will allow cycling to further build its legend. It was obvious to us that we wanted to do something big for the 50th anniversary of the first arrival on the Champs-Elysées. I have a crazy dream: the only rider who has ever been able to win in yellow is Bernard Hinault, in 1979 and 1982. This course opens the door to that again.

“When we included the gravel stage in the Tour route last year, we also failed to impress the riders. It was the same story when we made the cobblestones popular again. When Henri Desgrange (the driving force behind the first Tour, ed.) first included the Tourmalet and the Pyrenees in the route in 1910, not everyone was thrilled. Now they are part of the legend of the Tour. We must continue to build on that legend.”

22 May 2025, 08:09

Cycle hire scheme set to return to Edinburgh streets, as Lime and Dott in the running to operate dockless e-bike scheme

Just Eat Cycles in Edinburgh
Just Eat Cycles in Edinburgh (Image Credit: Just Eat)
Just Eat Cycles in Edinburgh
Just Eat Cycles in Edinburgh (Image Credit: Just Eat)

Edinburgh is set to get a cycle hire scheme back in the city as councillors have unanimously backed plans to have hire bikes back on the Scottish capital’s streets by August. The Edinburgh Reporter says Lime and Dott are in contention to run the scheme.

The city previously had a cycle hire scheme run by Just Eat, however “wanton destruction” was blamed for its closure, hundreds of bikes suffering vandalism, as well as being hit by locals’ unwillingness to ride the non-electric bikes back up Edinburgh’s hills.

> Edinburgh cycle hire scheme is going downhill — literally, as users coast down city’s hills but avoid riding up them

The city’s councillors have unanimously backed the reintroduction of a hire scheme, this time offering e-bikes to residents and visitors. It is hoped it will be up and running by August.

22 May 2025, 08:09

Olav Kooij sprints to Giro stage win after imperious Wout van Aert leadout

OLAV KOOIJ WINS A SPRINT ROYALE 👑

And what about that leadout from Wout van Aert? 😍 pic.twitter.com/r8ieiUvypV

— Cycling on TNT Sports (@cyclingontnt) May 22, 2025

In recent years it’s been Mathieu van der Poel impressing the world with his dominant leadouts for Jasper Philipsen, today his great rival Wout van Aert had a go for Olav Kooij and the outcome was exactly the same, the sprinter getting the victory and his more illustrious teammate most of the plaudits.

The TNT pundits were purring at that leadout, in fact Rob Hatch on comms went as far as to call Kooij the winner before the final bend. There were probably a few nervy moments when stage four hero Casper van Uden loomed outside Kooij, but at the line it was the man in yellow with his arms raised to give Visma-Lease a Bike their second victory of this year’s race. 

No major changes on GC to report, although maglia rosa Isaac del Torro took two bonus seconds at the Red Bull Kilometre, extending his advantage to 33 seconds over teammate Juan Ayuso.

22 May 2025, 08:09

"Are there any bearings left?": Bike mechanic doesn't recommend "novel lubricant" found in cyclist's Cervélo... after half a beach's worth of grit and sand falls from headset

‘Yeah, not sure, the steering feels a bit grippy… might need new headset bearings, can’t remember when they last got done…’

 
 
 
 
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I’ve got a lot of admiration for VecchioJo carefully curating his Insta feed to see exactly this sort of thing, so you’ve got him to thank for today’s live blog. Click the video above for the full clip of what fell out this poor bike. The mechanic reported being unable to recommend this “novel headset lubricant”, that appears to have turned the headtube of this Cervélo into a bucket for sandcastles. Light, stiff and aero sandcastles, of course.

“Not recommended,” the mechanic confirmed. “Are there any bearings left?”

It’s been a dry spring here in the UK so less of the usual muck, filth and mud, more grit and dust… although this surely can’t just be the work of a single spring. The comment from one of you lot on the live blog the other week springs to mind… something about being locked to the front deck of the Titanic…(then again that would be wet and rusty, hmmm)… perhaps dug up on a desert island by Captain Jack Sparrow?

There’s not even internal cables routed through the headtube to blame for putting off replacing this, something we discovered on yesterday’s live blog that plenty of people aren’t the biggest fan of…

Internal cable routing
Internal cable routing (Image Credit: Reddit/Open-Statistician595)
Internal cable routing
Internal cable routing (Image Credit: Reddit/Open-Statistician595)

> “A solution to a problem that didn’t exist”: Bike mechanics united in hatred for “infuriating” internal cable routing ask “should we all start charging more to repair it?”

One thing I will say to finish, to continue the ranty feel of the live blog this week, the seemingly endless range of sizes of headset bearings can be a right pain in the arse the first time you’ve got to change them. Luckily I recently replaced mine and got hold of what I needed fairly stress-free.

Just sized up the old one, found it online, it arrived, it matched the old one, it fit, and I will now know for future, but god it can be a faff, especially if you’re relatively new to fixing bikes and confronted with an internet’s worth of outer diameter, internal diameter, height, angles… it’s enough to make you never want to see anything measured in millimetres ever again. Or you could just go to your friendly local bike shop who’ll be happy to help (even if you turned your old one to dust). Anyway, rant over, maybe that’s just me…

22 May 2025, 08:09

Meanwhile in Britain...

Reform UK branded “utterly clueless” after pledging to scrap LTNs – where none exist

Reform UK branded “utterly clueless” after pledging to scrap LTNs – where none exist

“Now they have some power, they need to learn how to Google things first,” a Lib Dem spokesperson said after the 10 councils now under Reform’s control confirmed they do not have the traffic-calming measures in place

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Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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  1. Kapelmuur
    May 22, 2025 at 9:23 am
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    I use Strava only to compare

    I use Strava only to compare my own times, a sad business in my 78th year☹️.

    Judging by the number of riders in my o/75 age group who claim to climb at over 30mph Strava have an uphill task.

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  2. brooksby
    May 22, 2025 at 9:24 am
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    How does all that sand get in

    Serious question: How does all that sand get in there?  How?? no

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    • thrawed
      May 22, 2025 at 12:22 pm
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      From road spray being kicked

      From road spray being kicked up towards the headset by the front wheel riding through puddles. There are tiny litle mudguards like ass-savers mudder mini that will extend the lifespan of your headset.

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      • brooksby
        May 22, 2025 at 1:42 pm
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        I hadn’t even considered that

        I hadn’t even considered that!  Eeeek.

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    • ROOTminus1
      May 22, 2025 at 1:01 pm
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      Maybe they’re keen on getting
      Maybe they’re keen on getting into cx, and plowed through too many lakeside beaches

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    • mdavidford
      May 22, 2025 at 2:00 pm
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      Maybe it was stored in a tile

      Maybe it was stored in a tile-cutting workshop.

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  3. mark1a
    May 22, 2025 at 9:36 am
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    Been there with the bearings,

    Been there with the bearings, my brother bought an otherwise visually acceptable cheap Allez from an eBay seller a few years ago and asked me to give it a check & service, this was what was waiting for me:

     

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  4. HLaB
    May 22, 2025 at 1:30 pm
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    About 14 years ago I got one
    About 14 years ago I got one of my KOMs taken off me by someone who had obviously been involved in a collision and it was an ambulance. He apologised profusely but I just wanted to know he was alright.
    About 6 months later I was in London but my 90miles cycle there on the Saturday was quicker than I thought and I arrived early for a party. So too kill time I went for a slow ride round the block. It was a good job it was slow as a driver turning right across traffic never checked to see it was clear and took my front wheel out. Anyway I was checked over in an Ambulance and given a lift back to the party. At which point I realised I’d left my Garmin on so I titled the Strava ‘Out to London but the 5miles in the back of the Ambulance to be cropped on Monday when I get back to a PC’ (at that time you couldn’t crop on the phone). Someone couldn’t wait till then and flagged it because the Ambulance took their 4th place. 😂

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  5. Neil MG
    May 22, 2025 at 1:50 pm
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    Retro aero gains… 

    Retro aero gains… 

    A frameset and components that should bring tears to the eyes! 

    But, a horendous modern riser stem, which lifts the bars higher than grandpa’s shopper!

    Its like drilling components for lightness, and then filling all the holes with lead, to put some strength back!

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  6. chrisonabike
    May 22, 2025 at 4:01 pm
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    RE: Lime coming to Edinburgh

    RE: Lime coming to Edinburgh

    Edinburgh is set to get a cycle hire scheme back […] The Edinburgh Reporter (link is external) says Lime and Dott are in contention to run the scheme.

    The city previously had a cycle hire scheme run by Just Eat, however “wanton destruction” was blamed for its closure, hundreds of bikes suffering vandalism, as well as being hit by locals’ unwillingness to ride the non-electric bikes back up Edinburgh’s hills.— road.cc

    Apparently (per one road cc staffer) Lime bikes are “currently the jewel in Britain’s diminutive active travel crown”.

    Having already thrown some shade on dockless bikes in general (and not having been particularly reassured when someone helpfully dug up the fact that most of Lime’s money still comes from “investment funding”)…

    … I’ll merely note that since the previous generation of (docked) mostly non-electric bikes ended up trashed * the council are … very optimistic people!  What generous and public-spirited folks at Lime too!

    As far as I’m aware Edinburgh has many of the same folks as before.  I’d guess the vandals are up for a new challenge.  Unfortunately I can’t present data showing e.g. whether or not the (fairly short-lived) Bike and Go railway-station-based hire scheme ** had a better record though.

    * (I can confirm – having reported some that ended up left not just “not working” but literally smashed near where I stayed).

    **  That was when Abelio had the Scotrail franchise.  I think this was “too soon” for the UK (and I didn’t understand it then) but I think this is probably the most genuinely “public-serving” way to run these things (and I think one of the bigger ones has that model).  I just don’t think the dockless model is set up for delivering a “public good”.

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    • brooksby
      May 23, 2025 at 7:14 am
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      You know how the media is

      You know how the media is full of anecdotes about cyclists blowing through red lights?  IME (YMMV) four out of five of any cyclists you see going through a red light will be on a hire-bike (Lime, Dott, etc).  Which means they are very much just people on bikes who would otherwise be driving or pedestrianising.

      It is (again: IME, YMMV) very rare to see a cyclist on a bike which isn’t a hire bike going through a red light.

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      • wtjs
        May 23, 2025 at 8:36 am
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        It is (again: IME, YMMV) very

        It is (again: IME, YMMV) very rare to see a cyclist on a bike which isn’t a hire bike going through a red light

        Whereas it’s not at all rare, on the A6 in Lancashire at least because Lancashire Constabulary condones it with ‘everybody does it’, to see motorists going through a red light:

        https://upride.cc/incident/pn72ooe_dacia_redlightpass/

        https://upride.cc/incident/kn13aus_knausmotorhome_doubleredlightpass/

        https://upride.cc/incident/pe18ojj_insignia_redlightpass/

        https://upride.cc/incident/pl24vsx_sportage_redlightcross/

        https://upride.cc/incident/a15tjv_bmwm4_redlightpass/

        https://upride.cc/incident/jo55chb_kiasportage_redlightpass/

        https://upride.cc/incident/da21sww_leon_redlightpass/

        etc. etc.

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      • chrisonabike
        May 23, 2025 at 9:26 am
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        brooksby wrote:

        You know how the media is full of anecdotes about cyclists blowing through red lights?  IME (YMMV) four out of five of any cyclists you see going through a red light will be on a hire-bike (Lime, Dott, etc).  Which means they are very much just people on bikes who would otherwise be driving or pedestrianising.

        It is (again: IME, YMMV) very rare to see a cyclist on a bike which isn’t a hire bike going through a red light.

        — brooksby

        Well … I stay in Edinburgh and our city had a limited (numbers and time) go with these.  And my anecdata will be skewed since:

        a) I stay on the north west edge of Edinburgh and at the time the scheme was running wasn’t going in to the centre much (there were a couple of stations for these bikes within say 1-2 miles, but most were around the centre) and

        b) At that time I was in one of the most run-down neighbourhoods (I’ve upgraded to merely “grubby former industrial wasteland” now!) so more likely to see the “dodgy”.

        So:  I can’t really recall seeing many being ridden about at all.  I do recall reporting perhaps 5 trashed ones.  And seeing them being ridden by people (yoof) who probably hadn’t paid for them (the lights were flashing and they were making odd noises, as were the bikes). 

        “One less car” is a good idea – but I wonder … could it be that many of these – in places where they’re more established – are hired more “spontaneously” during the day.  So they are actually mostly replacing taxi or public transport + walk or just as “more convenient than walking”?  (I don’t have numbers… anyone?)

        As for “poor ‘cycling’ practice” the worst are the electric motorbike types ( 20mph and up) (full bandana / hidden faces).  There are lots of hire “ebikes” (Zoomo) being ridden ( mostly < 15mph ) by the food delivery folks and I’d say they’re not always great observers of red.  They aren’t the worst cyclists out there though – I think the bike is “just how I can do this (poorly paid) work” but they don’t want to die or get busted.

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Midgex 2 hours ago

@AidanR Remember kinetic energy goes with v squared. 5km/s is more than it seems.

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Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

Jo Cox was murdered by a far-right fanatic just one month after Khan started his first term as Mayor, and he frequently receives death threats both from the far right and militant Islamists, and yet you always find it appropriate to mock and deride his security.

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Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

@AidanR I'd respectfully disagree on that, it's pretty noticeable with the present-day pros that just about every descent is a pedalling descent unless it's so steep they'd be spinning out, whereas back in the day there was a lot more freewheelng, as I recall at least. Not saying that there would necessarily be a huge difference between today's riders and those of the 1990s if both were trying their hardest, but the better training and better nutrition mean today's riders don't need to use descents as a recovery period as much as the pros of yesteryear.

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mdavidford 3 hours ago

Careful not to turn around too quick there, or the beam in your eye will have someone else's out.

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mdavidford 3 hours ago

Why do these sports people always 'rip up their contract' when joining another team? It's a silly thing to do - it just means you no longer know what the contract says, while your former employer will still have their copy to back up any action against you.

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jackcycles 4 hours ago

While Farage is generally correct in his vision, I'm afraid he will fall short of any promise to prosecute every bike theft. The Met police are after all under the purview of Sadiq Khan, whose main priorities are prosecuting people for using Twitter, gaslighting everyone in the country, labelling any opponent as "far right", and cosplaying at being a cyclist while grinding traffic to a halt throughout London. In more lawful suburban and rural areas there's certainly more that can be on cycling thefts, but there are higher priorities and the immediate priority should be getting more prison places available, and prisons generally under control. I note some very disappointingly vitriolic comments on this thread, especially when considering the threats made to Farage and the far left murder of Ann Widdecombe by a man who (allegedly since the trial is ongoing) also targeted Farage. Yet still some seem to find it appropriate to mock and deride a very real need to have a large security budget... While endorsing the publicly paid-for cost of Khan's security entourage of bullet proof Range Rovers and body guards.

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belugabob 5 hours ago

@bob.sweet it also proves that cyclists aren't the issue

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belugabob 5 hours ago

@mitsky you may be thinking of taxi drivers

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AidanR 5 hours ago

@belugabob I don't think that makes much difference on a long descent

in: “More like motorcycles than bikes”: Tour de France course designer Thierry Gouvenou says increasing rider speeds make race safety “significantly harder” for organisers
belugabob 5 hours ago

@AidanR i feel that it's more to do with higher sustained speeds, which comes from better training, nutrition and fitness

in: “More like motorcycles than bikes”: Tour de France course designer Thierry Gouvenou says increasing rider speeds make race safety “significantly harder” for organisers

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