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“I get irrationally angry about cyclists”: Jeremy Kyle and GB News’ primetime anti-cycling bingo ranting; “Not sure if we were cycling or swimming”: Riding in the rain; Quintana denies using tramadol, pulls out of Vuelta + more on the live blog

It’s Thursday and Dan Alexander is in the hot seat for all your live blog needs
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Aug 18, 2022 08:05
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SUMMARY

  • "Not sure if we were cycling or swimming": Cycling in the (torrential) rain
  • "I get irrationally angry about cyclists": Jeremy Kyle and GB News' primetime anti-cycling bingo ranting
  • Disc brakes are so last year
  • Nairo Quintana denies using tramadol and pulls out of Vuelta to make his case to Court of Arbitration for Sport
  • Cycling 'debate' spills over onto GB News breakfast show
  • Trek-Segafredo call in the big boys to bodyguard Juan Pedro López
  • How well do you know the Highway Code?
  • An N+1er's guide to fixing a puncture
  • "The bile being spewed out in the media at the moment is genuinely really scary": Reader reaction to Jeremy Kyle and GB News joining the bike-bashing party
  • Amy Pieters moved to an intensive neuro-rehabilitation facility
  • An email from an overseas reader
  • Movistar reveal 'Alejandro Valverde kit' for La Vuelta
  • Ineos boss Sir Jim Ratcliffe interested in buying... *checks notes*... Manchester United
  • Mexican (A38) standoff
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18 August 2022, 08:05

"Not sure if we were cycling or swimming": Cycling in the (torrential) rain

There’s been weird water falling from the sky these past two days, anyone know what that is? Should we be concerned? That big hot ball of yellowness seems to have disappeared too.

Dodging rain showers makes a nice change from dodging the most dehydrating, skin-burning, energy-sapping hours of the day to go for a spin, although road.cc Simon might object to the ‘niceness’ of it all…

Me, 20 minutes after deciding it was a good time to head home because “the rain seems to be easing off” 😬🤣 pic.twitter.com/VVfx8KwWdH

— Simon MacMichael 💛🇫🇷🚲 (@simonmacmichael) August 17, 2022

Similar story down in Devon where Kingsbridge Cycling Club were left a run short of a triathlon on their Wednesday night spin. As if the climb wasn’t hard enough…

Not sure if we were cycling or swimming on tonight’s ride… 😂@UKCycleChat #ukcyclechat #cycling pic.twitter.com/Gfa1yZROJ0

— Kingsbridge Cycling (@kingsbridgevelo) August 17, 2022

Alternatively, you could just copy Sam Bewley. So this is the secret to being a pro rider? Would have thought I’d clocked enough pub miles to get a contract, but evidently not. Must try harder…

Pisses me off when I get stuck at the pub. pic.twitter.com/JGHPFKfdR3

— Sam Bewley (@sam_bewley) August 17, 2022

> 9 top survival tips for cycling in the rain  (heading to the pub isn’t one of them)

18 August 2022, 08:05

"I get irrationally angry about cyclists": Jeremy Kyle and GB News' primetime anti-cycling bingo ranting

Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse…

“I get irrationally angry about cyclists.

“I mean it – don’t come near me, I’m a cycle-path.”

Look away, @theJeremyVine!@jkyleofficial | @TalkTV | #PMU pic.twitter.com/nYeJD83syi

— Piers Morgan Uncensored (@PiersUncensored) August 17, 2022

I’ll save you a click with a brief recap. Jeremy Kyle is Talk TV’s chosen replacement for Piers Morgan (conjuring thoughts of would you rather cut your arm or leg off), and stood in for the ‘uncensored’ host last night as the new station, owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News UK, used its primetime show to tackle the big issue of the day — Transport Secretary Grant Shapps’ later-contradicted statement about getting tough on bike riders…

> Confusion as Grant Shapps now says he is “not attracted to bureaucracy” of number plates for cyclists

Riding a stationary bicycle in-studio, Kyle — formerly of the self-named Jeremy Kyle ‘chat show’ once described by a judge as “human bear-baiting” and later pulled from production following the suicide of a guest — set off on a rant akin to many a Facebook comments section…

“How do you get to use the highways with no licence, no insurance, and without paying any tax, and with absolutely no speed limit? The answer is, of course, as easy as riding a bike…

> OPINION: Grant Shapps’ stupid cycling comments are ill-judged, dangerous and fuelling more hatred towards cyclists

“This is the only time ever you’ll see me doing this. I get irrationally angry about cyclists, I mean it. Don’t come near me, I’m a cycle-path.”

In the next minute-and-a-half Kyle recites the greatest “what’s not to loathe?” hits: cyclists “dressing up like the Tour de France”, the “chaingangs…riding side by side, whilst us tax-paying motorists queue behind getting later and later and more irate”, “your Jeremy Vines, with more cameras than Kodak, picking fights and running red lights”.

Strangely, as if to prove his point, Talk TV then ran a tape showing close passes, motorists hitting cyclists, road rage violence and a driver about to run a red light…

“Motorists in this country are hacked off with cyclists because they feel like second-class citizens. Why aren’t you insured?”

Jeremy Kyle takes on ‘Britain’s most hated’ camera-clad cyclist Dave Sherry.@jkyleofficial | @Sueperb2 | @TalkTV | #PMU pic.twitter.com/Yds9tGQfuZ

— Piers Morgan Uncensored (@PiersUncensored) August 17, 2022

And it wasn’t just Talk TV… as we got the double-header of GB News too, who an hour later on Dan Wootton’s 9pm Tonight show repeated the ‘discussion’.

‘The biggest killers out on the road are car drivers… You whinged then and you’re whinging now.’

Dave Sherry and Derrick Evans clash with Andrew Pierce over whether cyclists should obey the speed limit and wear number plates.

📺 Freeview 236, Sky 515, Virgin 626 pic.twitter.com/Dxdwd7Srz9

— GB News (@GBNEWS) August 17, 2022

You probably can’t face any more, but, if you can, here’s how Shapps’ comments were reported in the national press and broadcast media yesterday… 

18 August 2022, 08:05

Disc brakes are so last year

Never even seen one of these brakes before – ( just seen on my walk) #neverstoplearning pic.twitter.com/KTZ11HN90P

— classicretro (@classicretro) August 18, 2022

18 August 2022, 08:05

Nairo Quintana denies using tramadol and pulls out of Vuelta to make his case to Court of Arbitration for Sport

Nairo Quintana 2022 TDF (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Nairo Quintana 2022 TDF (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[Zac Williams/SWpix.com]

A quick update to the Nairo Quintana story that broke amid the Grant Shapps storm yesterday. Having been disqualified from the Tour de France after the UCI said tests from two dates during the Tour suggested he had infringed their ban on taking painkiller tramadol in competition.

> Nairo Quintana sanctioned by UCI for Tour de France tramadol infringement

You can probably guess what’s coming…anyway, in a statement released to Colombian media, Quintana expressed “surprise” at the UCI’s finding and said he is “totally unaware of the use of this substance, and I deny ever using it during my career”.

“With my legal team we will exhaust every means to prepare my defence,” he added, saying the case will be brought before the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

Despite initially saying he would race the Vuelta a España, starting in Utrecht tomorrow, the 33-year-old has now said he won’t participate “to assert my reasons before the Court of Arbitration for Sport”, but “will return to the race calendar at the end of the season”.

18 August 2022, 08:05

Cycling 'debate' spills over onto GB News breakfast show

‘You’ve got lycra Larry who wants to go 100 miles an hour faster than the people already in that lane and then he comes in to my lane!’

Black Cab driver Mark Baxter on plans for speed limits for cyclists, saying ‘you’ve got cyclists who want to take part in the Tour de France!’. pic.twitter.com/kI0Cwb3MFZ

— GB News (@GBNEWS) August 18, 2022

18 August 2022, 08:05

Trek-Segafredo call in the big boys to bodyguard Juan Pedro López

“You wanna get to him? You gotta go through me…”

We will take good care of our little climber👏 https://t.co/wjyOtjuCL7

— Alex Kirsch (@alexkirsch92) August 18, 2022

Kirsch and Hoole getting chopped off at the chest makes this unintentionally funnier…here’s the original…

Trek-Segafredo Vuelta (Vuelta Insta)
Trek-Segafredo Vuelta (Vuelta Insta) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Trek-Segafredo Vuelta (Vuelta Insta)
Trek-Segafredo Vuelta (Vuelta Insta) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

18 August 2022, 08:05

How well do you know the Highway Code?

A road.cc reader got in touch with a Highway Code and cycling signs quiz if you’re looking for a bit of lunch-break procrastination…

Highway Code quiz
Highway Code quiz (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Highway Code quiz
Highway Code quiz (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

We thought we’d give it a shout out, largely because I just got 9/10 so hey, got to show off where you can…

The results breakdown of people who have taken the quiz so far is quite interesting too, with just 39.5 per cent (before you brainy lot get involved) knowing if drivers can cross double white lines to overtake a cyclist.

Head over to KOM club if you want to give it a go…

18 August 2022, 08:05

An N+1er's guide to fixing a puncture

Oh no, a puncture. What shall I do?
I know! pic.twitter.com/Gs5fvNJhY9

— Jon (@Jontafkasi) August 18, 2022

18 August 2022, 08:05

"The bile being spewed out in the media at the moment is genuinely really scary": Reader reaction to Jeremy Kyle and GB News joining the bike-bashing party

Admits he’s irrational

— Roly West (@rolywest) August 18, 2022

 BalladOfStruth is moving “on Sunday to somewhere were I’ll be working fully remotely. I’m feeling very happy that I won’t be on the bike in commuter traffic for a while — the bile being spewed out in the media at the moment is genuinely really scary when you know that a non-trivial amount of drivers are using it to justify actually going out and punishing cyclists.”

Cycloid added: “Hatred begets hatred — the volume has just been turned up again.”

IanMK noticed something very interesting in Kyle’s rant…”‘How do you get to use the highways with no licence, no insurance, and without paying any tax, and with absolutely no speed limit? The answer is, of course, as easy as riding a bike…’

“Hold on a minute… Because I ride a bike I don’t have to pay tax? I must be owed ‘000s. Just off to hand my notice in. When I return can somebody tell me where I claim my rebate?” Worth looking into…

PRSboy added: “Wait ’til folk find out about all the EV drivers, including those in £120k Porsche Taycans, who pay no ‘road tax’. Not only that, but there are an increasing amount of EV-only parking spaces.

“The irony of the quoted statement is that anyone can ride a bike and enjoy the benefits! It’s not like some special club. It is the most accessible and equitable form of transport there is.

“I really struggle to understand the vitriol being directed at cyclists in the media. I don’t mind a bit of ribbing but this is getting ridiculous and is downright harassment, abetted by the Government.

“Look at the great young lad who cycled to Paris in memory of his daddy. Does Kyle honestly feel angry about him?”

Take a dip into the comments for ChrisB200SX’s alternative debate with Kyle. Somehow I’m not sure Talk TV would want that broadcast…

And lastly…

More than twice as many people are killed by bees and wasps per year than by cyclists. Also, bees can travel at up to 32km/h.
Number plates on bees!

— Will Dunn (@willydunn) August 17, 2022

18 August 2022, 08:05

Amy Pieters moved to an intensive neuro-rehabilitation facility

Amy Pieters (licensed CC BY SA 4.0 by Nicola on Wikimedia Commons)
Amy Pieters (licensed CC BY SA 4 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Amy Pieters (licensed CC BY SA 4.0 by Nicola on Wikimedia Commons)
Amy Pieters (licensed CC BY SA 4 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Amy Pieters has been moved to an intensive neuro-rehabilitation facility in the Netherlands as she continues her recovery from a winter training camp crash which left her in an induced coma, regaining consciousness four months later.

> Amy Pieters shows signs of “awareness” four months after crash that left her in a coma

“At the Daan Theeuwes Centrum, Amy will continue to work even harder and focus more on her recovery,” SD Worx, Pieters’ team, said in a statement.

18 August 2022, 08:05

An email from an overseas reader

While the majority of our readers are based here in the UK, Harry got in touch with an angle on Grant Shapps’ comments we haven’t heard yet — the impact on visitors coming to the UK by bike…

Visit Isle of Wight - CarFreeCampaign -Ferry Bikes.jpg
Visit Isle of Wight - CarFreeCampaign -Ferry Bikes (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Visit Isle of Wight - CarFreeCampaign -Ferry Bikes.jpg
Visit Isle of Wight – CarFreeCampaign -Ferry Bikes (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Regarding registering and insurance of bicycles, I was wondering whether he considered overseas visitors with bicycles. Last week I counted a lot of bicycles on the ferry. Will they require to temporarily import their bicycles and show proof of insurance? Will extra facilities be available for this? As some suggest, he’s just playing to the Tory base via the Daily Mail, there is no substance. Just damage. 

18 August 2022, 08:05

Movistar reveal 'Alejandro Valverde kit' for La Vuelta

Movistar Valverde Vuelta kit 2022 (Photo Gomez Sport / Movistar Team)
Movistar Team) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Movistar Valverde Vuelta kit 2022 (Photo Gomez Sport / Movistar Team)
Movistar Team) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Movistar will use a predominantly white kit for the first time, in tribute to retiring team leader Alejandro Valverde, with the 42-year-old’s biggest wins part of the design.

“No one deserves it more than him,” a team press release explained. “In a one-off move, never seen over the 12 years Telefónica has been the organisation’s title sponsor, the Movistar Team will overhaul its jersey for a three-week Grand Tour and dedicate its design for the 77th edition of La Vuelta to Alejandro Valverde, its most important rider for nearly two decades.”

Movistar Valverde Vuelta kit 2022 (Photo Gomez Sport / Movistar Team)
Movistar Team) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Movistar Valverde Vuelta kit 2022 (Photo Gomez Sport / Movistar Team)
Movistar Team) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

18 August 2022, 08:05

Ineos boss Sir Jim Ratcliffe interested in buying... *checks notes*... Manchester United

Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Sir Dave Brailsford
Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Sir Dave Brailsford (Image Credit: Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)
Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Sir Dave Brailsford
Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Sir Dave Brailsford (Image Credit: Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)

Sir Jim Ratcliffe, the chemical money behind Ineos’ sporting empire and the Ineos Grenadiers cycling team, is interested in buying Manchester United, according to The Times.

Ratcliffe’s spokesperson said: “If the club is for sale, Jim is definitely a potential buyer. If something like this was possible, we would be interested in talking with a view to long-term ownership.”

Earlier this week, Elon Musk suggested he might be interested in bidding for the Premier League strugglers (that felt good, apologies United fans) before playing off the idea as a joke. Ratcliffe, apparently a boyhood United fan, made a £4 billion bid to buy Chelsea FC in April after the club was put up for sale by Roman Abramovich.

18 August 2022, 08:05

Mexican (A38) standoff

Cyclists of twitter, I’d love to see some of your favourite examples of pointless anti-cycling infrastructure.

My example: as seen on a shared use path running alongside the A38 between Burton and Derby. pic.twitter.com/ZnqZBHGEVU

— Tom Pike (@Tom_Pike) August 18, 2022

18 August 2022, 08:05

“You’re not going to prison for this,” judge tells teen cyclist who injured pedestrian

“You’re not going to prison for this,” judge tells teen cyclist who injured pedestrian

Robert Mobey, 18, pleaded guilty to causing bodily harm through wanton or furious driving

18 August 2022, 08:05

Green Party: Government’s “anti-cycling narrative” creates danger for cyclists

Green Party: Government’s “anti-cycling narrative” creates danger for cyclists

Spokesperson slams Grant Shapps’ comments on number plates, compulsory insurance and speed limits for cyclists

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63 thoughts on ““I get irrationally angry about cyclists”: Jeremy Kyle and GB News’ primetime anti-cycling bingo ranting; “Not sure if we were cycling or swimming”: Riding in the rain; Quintana denies using tramadol, pulls out of Vuelta + more on the live blog”

  1. Mungecrundle
    August 18, 2022 at 9:43 am
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    For a man who should already
    For a man who should already have the death of one person weighing heavily on his conscience Jeremy Kyle appears to have no qualms about setting up some other poor sod to be attacked by the kind of people he is winding up.

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    • IanMK
      August 18, 2022 at 10:13 am
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      “I get irrationally angry

      “I get irrationally angry about cyclists”.

      Has he just confessed that he has a personality disorder “Personality disorders are a group of mental illnesses. They involve long-term patterns of thoughts and behaviors that are unhealthy and inflexible.”

      Has he notified the DVLA.

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      • Clem Fandango
        August 18, 2022 at 10:21 am
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        So his whole premise is that

        So his whole premise is that his anger is, in his own words, “irrational”?

         

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    • HarrogateSpa
      August 18, 2022 at 11:10 am
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      Might be best to ignore this

      Might be best to ignore this crap. Not sure it’s helpful for road.cc to amplify it.

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      • PRSboy
        August 18, 2022 at 12:59 pm
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        HarrogateSpa wrote:

        Might be best to ignore this crap. Not sure it’s helpful for road.cc to amplify it.

        — HarrogateSpa

        I normally would, if it were confined to the Daily Wail or Gammony Bigot News.  Sadly the Govt brought it into the mainstream which has made it rather more serious.

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        • Hirsute
          August 18, 2022 at 1:26 pm
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          It’s all over the local rags

          It’s all over the local rags which are part of the same group.

          Although Bristol Post has no comments allowed !

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    • Rendel Harris
      August 18, 2022 at 8:12 pm
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      For something to weigh

      For something to weigh heavily on your conscience you actually have to have one. Cnuts like him simply don’t, as far as I can tell.

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  2. PRSboy
    August 18, 2022 at 9:54 am
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    I really struggle to

    I really struggle to understand the vitriol being directed at cyclists in the media.  I don’t mind a bit of ribbing but this is getting ridiculous and is downright harassment, abetted by the Government.

    Look at the great young lad who cycled to Paris in memory of his daddy.

    Does Kyle honestly feel angry about him?

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    • OldRidgeback
      August 18, 2022 at 1:25 pm
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      At least Kyle admits he’s

      At least Kyle admits he’s being irrational in his hatred. I see it as a cry for help. Maybe he should appear on some kind of no holds barred TV show and bear his damaged soul to the delight of a baying audience?

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  3. IanMK
    August 18, 2022 at 10:06 am
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    “How do you get to use the

    “How do you get to use the highways with no licence, no insurance, and without paying any tax, and with absolutely no speed limit? The answer is, of course, as easy as riding a bike…”

    Hold on a minute….Because I ride a bike I don’t have to pay tax? I must be owed ‘000s. Just off to hand my notice in. When I return can somebody tell me where I claim my rebate.

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    • Secret_squirrel
      August 18, 2022 at 10:17 am
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      The answer is of course, walk

      The answer is of course, walk, cycle or ride a horse. FTFT.

      Culture war arseholes the lot of them.

      In my more gloomy moments I do wonder if this was how the media behaved in the Weimar Republic prior to 1933. 

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    • PRSboy
      August 18, 2022 at 10:20 am
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      Wait til folk find out about

      Wait til folk find out about all the EV drivers, including those in £120k Porsche Taycans, who pay no ‘road tax’.   Not only that, but there are an increasing amount of EV-only parking spaces.

      The irony of the quoted statement is that anyone can ride a bike and enjoy the benefits!  Its not like some special club.  It is the most accessible and equitable form of transport there is.

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      • IanMK
        August 18, 2022 at 11:07 am
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        Better still wait ’til they

        Better still wait ’til they find out that there are cyclists that spent £000’s on a new bicycle and could tax deduct against PAYE no

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      • ktache
        August 18, 2022 at 11:18 am
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        And shockingly efficient.

        And shockingly efficient.

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      • IanMSpencer
        August 18, 2022 at 3:16 pm
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        PRSboy wrote:

        Wait til folk find out about all the EV drivers, including those in £120k Porsche Taycans, who pay no ‘road tax’.   Not only that, but there are an increasing amount of EV-only parking spaces.

        The irony of the quoted statement is that anyone can ride a bike and enjoy the benefits!  Its not like some special club.  It is the most accessible and equitable form of transport there is.

        — PRSboy

        I always have an urge to point and ask why they haven’t tried to run “them” (points at green number plate) off the road.

        Strangely, I don’t think they’d get it.

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      • hutchdaddy
        August 18, 2022 at 6:23 pm
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        …apart from walking.

        …apart from walking.

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  4. ChrisB200SX
    August 18, 2022 at 10:07 am
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    Jeremy Kyle wrote:

    I get irrationally angry about cyclists

    — Jeremy Kyle

    So, maybe see a mental health professional, get therapy, or just use the rational part of your brain to not get angry at people travelling by a method that is a legal right in the UK (CROW Act 2000) rather than go on TV and stir up the baseless hatred, othering and division against people who ride a bike by using false dichotomy, lies, etc.

    Why are so many cyclist out to cause trouble?

    — Jeremy Kyle

    They aren’t, it’s your irrational incorrect interpretation.

    I’m all for cyclists if it’s fair and proper but it’s not like that any more

    — Jeremy Kyle

    Good, it is fair and proper, same as it always has been.

    Why have you got a camera?

    — Jeremy Kyle

    Perfectly legal, various reasons, obvious to anyone with a brain, mostly for my protection to capture evidence, etc. There are cameras almost everywhere in the UK, many of them dashcams.

    Most drivers in this country are hacked off with cyclists, we feel like second class citizens

    — Jeremy Kyle

    No, we drivers are not, that is not how we feel.

    Why aren’t you insured?

    — Jeremy Kyle

    I am, as are nearly all cyclists even though there is no legal requirement, same for walking. See CROW Act 2000.

    Why are they allowed to cycle in pairs?

    — Jeremy Kyle

    Because we live in a free country. Same reason motor vehicles are allowed to be so wide.

    You don’t pay for roads, do you think that is fair?

    — Jeremy Kyle

    Actually we all do. General taxation and council tax.

    Cyclists seem to be gaining the upper hand

    — Jeremy Kyle

    In what, how? It’s not a war or a game that is scored.

    I believe 531 incidents of cyclists bashing into pedestrians

    — Jeremy Kyle

    That is incorrect, how many of those were pedestrians bashing into cyclists? You cannot expect there to never be ANY collisions where users share the road network, really?

    Do you not think cyclists should have rules?

    — Jeremy Kyle

    False argument due to being phrased in the negative, implies there are no rules. (Should be phrased “Do you think there should be no rules for cyclists?”) They do, see the Highway Code.

    There is gutter press but this is truly scum media. I would not care if these scumbags died in a fire, the world would be a far better place without them.

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    • giff77
      August 18, 2022 at 9:57 am
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      Or if he has unresolved anger

      Or if he has unresolved anger issues then surrender his license as he is clearly unfit to drive in public roads. 

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    • PRSboy
      August 18, 2022 at 12:49 pm
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      Great answers.  The problem

      Great answers.  The problem is, you’re preaching to the converted here, much as Kyle is to the lot that watch Gammony Bigot News or whatever.  I wish there was some way of having a proper debate without the hyperbole and sensationalism.

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      • Cyclo1964
        August 18, 2022 at 10:45 am
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        They don’t know how to debate

        They don’t know how to debate they just shout louder !

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  5. ktache
    August 18, 2022 at 10:16 am
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    More more anti-cycling

    More anti-cycling ranting bile from the hate filled guardian 

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2022/aug/18/why-we-drew-600-mile-long-picture-of-a-bicycle-across-europe-gps-image-climate-crisis

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    • hutchdaddy
      August 18, 2022 at 6:23 pm
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      Don’t cha just wanna kiss ’em

      Don’t cha just wanna kiss ’em?
      I do.

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  6. Cycloid
    August 18, 2022 at 11:05 am
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    Hatred begets hatred – The

    Hatred begets hatred – The volume has just been turned up again.

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  7. ktache
    August 18, 2022 at 11:17 am
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    The internals on the cam on

    The internals on the cam on the weinman hp turbos.

    Almost a mechanical version of a magura hydraulic rim brake, maybe?

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    • Secret_squirrel
      August 18, 2022 at 11:23 am
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      Kinda/sorta.

      Kinda/sorta.

      If I’m reading the diagram right its more of a dead ringer for the original Hope Mechanical Disc brakes, with the pad replaced by a block though.  Basically a spring loaded piston on a spiral track.

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      • ktache
        August 18, 2022 at 11:38 am
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        I hadn’t realised hope did

        I hadn’t realised hope did mechanicals, the weinman was released in 84 so ahead of the hopes by a few years.

        And it would appear, the maguras. I knew someone in the early 90s that had a set on his alpine stars. Very raised chain stays, no chainslap and you could take off the chain without breaking it, apart from the front mech, but I seem to remember they could be opened.

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        • Secret_squirrel
          August 18, 2022 at 12:12 pm
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          I love Magura’s rim brakes. 

          I love Magura’s rim brakes.  Brilliant for handling dodgy cable routing before hydralic discs were cheap.

          I had a set on my Birdy blue that replaced the dodgily routed V brake cable.

          Best braking this side of a set of hydralic discs too.  (But eat rims)

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          • ktache
            August 18, 2022 at 12:35 pm
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            I had wondered about their

            I had wondered about their effectiveness when used with ceramic/carbide rims.

            My ceramic (Mavic 717s) with xtr Vs (Nokon cables and odyssey ti booster on the front) give excellent single finger braking,  two in the wet. I can tweak the setup for my finniky needs better than my very excellent hope tech 3 e 4s too. (Which are single finger in all conditions)

            The mate with the maguras had Shimano Us on his previous MTB, he must of liked innovative stopping. Lot of power, though difficult to adjust, and there is no worse place on the bike for filth build up than the chain stays at the bottom bracket.

          • TheBillder
            August 18, 2022 at 2:01 pm
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            ktache, what brake pads are
            ktache, what brake pads are you using? I have Mavic ceramic rims on my old tourer, with cantilever brakes. Currently using Kool Stop green but the braking is not good. People get passports sooner than I stop in the wet…

          • ktache
            August 18, 2022 at 2:41 pm
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            I had to get the Vs because I

            I had to get the Vs because I couldn’t get ceramic specific pads for my cantis. The ritchy’s (koolstops) reds I was running screamed like crazy. So I ran shimanos ceramic specific for a while.

            Though when changing my rims, finding them was a quest, I changed to swissstop blues, ceramic specific and you might be able to find some for cantis.

            These

            https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brake-blocks/swissstop-blue-brake-pads-for-deore-lx-xt-xtr-brakes-inc-pins-for-ceramic-carbide-css-rims/

            There are some Q and As at the bottom of the page concerning cantis.

          • ktache
            August 18, 2022 at 2:44 pm
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            And koolstop sell these

            And koolstop sell these

            https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/kool-stop-replacement-tectonic-ceramic-rim-brake-pads?gclid=Cj0KCQjwxveXBhDDARIsAI0Q0x2OS-BvjpaaoBApKs2EA7a_0bfR0hDGnw7b_CXdFWX9CLg2XVEm6lYaAuyAEALw_wcB

            But these may be even more appropriate

            https://winstanleysbikes.co.uk/kool-stop-thinline-cantilever-ceramic-rim-brake-pads

          • TheBillder
            August 18, 2022 at 2:46 pm
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            Thanks!
            Thanks!

  8. squired
    August 18, 2022 at 11:49 am
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    One of the arguments from
    One of the arguments from cyclists in relation to the potential new rules is that if you didn’t like us before, you’ll like us even less when we have a “right” (in your mind at least) to be on the road. We can ride in the middle of the road, sticking to the speed limit (especially in 20mph zones), holding you up from speeding, proudly displaying our licence plate and not breaking any law….

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  9. ktache
    August 18, 2022 at 12:23 pm
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    Well 100%, but that’s only

    Well 100%, but that’s only because this site makes me want to check out rules and laws. Only reason to know about the years for pedal reflectors.

    I did get 48 out of 50 on a mock driving theory one a while back, and one of the wrong answers was a very car one about what you should do if driving along a road and someone is reversing out of a driveway. Answer is to actually use the horn (a fully legal use) and drive around the now stopped hazard. The cycling answer, of course, is so stop and shake the head disappointedly, and if the motorist fails to make apologetic signs then to comment on their windows, lack of looking, amount of hi viz and stupidly bright lights.

    My lack of technological skills prevented me from finding out the other wrong answer.

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  10. BalladOfStruth
    August 18, 2022 at 1:01 pm
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    I move on Sunday to somewhere

    I move on Sunday to somewhere were I’ll be working fully remotely. I’m feeling very happy that I won’t be on the bike in commuter traffic for a while – the bile being spewed out in the media at the moment is genuinely really scary when you know that a non-trivial amount of drivers are using it to justify actually going out and punishing cyclists.

    I f*cking hate this country sometimes…

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  11. eburtthebike
    August 18, 2022 at 1:18 pm
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    One of the reasons that the

    One of the reasons that the tories want to get rid of the BBC and Channel 4 is so that all our tv will be in the hands of Murdoch and his ilk, and every programme every day will be telling you how to think.

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  12. ktache
    August 18, 2022 at 1:24 pm
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    Looked last night and noticed

    Looked last night and noticed that highlights of the Veulta will be on Quest this year, so presumably Eurosport highlights, 11 on Friday, 7 the rest of the time.

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    • TheBillder
      August 18, 2022 at 2:49 pm
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      ktache wrote:

      Looked last night and noticed that highlights of the Veulta will be on Quest this year, so presumably Eurosport highlights, 11 on Friday, 7 the rest of the time.

      — ktache

      Oh terrific. 18.2 seconds of the stage finish, and then what feels like hours of bleedin’ obvious “analysis”. At least we get Ned and David for the ToB.

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      • HarrogateSpa
        August 18, 2022 at 5:13 pm
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        I’m sure I’m wrong about this

        I’m sure I’m wrong about this but I can’t help feeling that it’s extremely rude of Adam Blythe not to bother wearing socks and to flaunt his bare ankles in front of the camera.

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        • TheBillder
          August 18, 2022 at 9:05 pm
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          He’s trying to gain publicity
          He’s trying to gain publicity for when Jacob Rees Mogg tries to ban the programme for obscenity.

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  13. mdavidford
    August 18, 2022 at 1:30 pm
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    I so want this to be the

    I so want this to be the right answer.

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  14. brooksby
    August 18, 2022 at 2:31 pm
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    Bristol’s Big Issue bike

    Bristol’s Big Issue bike rental scheme stopped because of ‘relentless vandalism’

    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristols-big-issue-bike-rental-7481316

    “Having begun with a fleet of over 400, we currently have around 200 e-bikes on the street and approximately 10% of these are damaged every day. In practice, this means that our entire fleet is vandalised every two weeks. We have more e-bikes destroyed in Bristol in one week than in all our facilities combined anywhere else in the world.

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    • ktache
      August 18, 2022 at 3:15 pm
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      The fact that they are from

      The fact that they are from The Big Issue makes it worse.

      They are not some huge megabank.

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  15. eburtthebike
    August 18, 2022 at 2:43 pm
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    Interesting that the human

    Interesting that the human-baiting tv progs don’t ask anyone from a cycling organisation to speak.  At least the BBC did that this morning on R4 when they got the excellent Duncan Dollimore of CUK to shoot Shapps down in flames.

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    • Hirsute
      August 18, 2022 at 3:12 pm
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      Someone’s hacked eburt’s

      Someone’s hacked eburt’s account. “He” wrote something +ve about the BBC.

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      • eburtthebike
        August 18, 2022 at 4:52 pm
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        hirsute wrote:

        Someone’s hacked eburt’s account. “He” wrote something +ve about the BBC.

        — hirsute

        I know, I too was astonished.  I was left wondering if they did it because of my complaint last week about the same prog when they featured Matt Briggs (Causing Death by Dangerous Cycling law advocate) for five minutes with no balancing comments from anyone else and the interviewer just agreeing with him.

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  16. hutchdaddy
    August 18, 2022 at 3:05 pm
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    Cyclists breaking the speed
    Cyclists breaking the speed limit is such a problem…
    https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-08-16/thousands-of-drivers-caught-speeding-during-smart-motorway-roadworks

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    • ktache
      August 18, 2022 at 3:23 pm
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      Entitled cyclists?

      Entitled cyclists?

      Parking innit!

      https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2022-08-13/police-warning-to-drivers-as-some-move-fire-hose-to-park-near-blaze

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      • hutchdaddy
        August 18, 2022 at 6:20 pm
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        OMG!! Unbelievable! Well not

        OMG!! Unbelievable! Well not really, we know how selfish some drivers can be.

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  17. brooksby
    August 18, 2022 at 3:52 pm
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    I lose track – has the

    I lose track – has the hivemind decided that Ma****73 is a PBU? 😉

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    • Hirsute
      August 18, 2022 at 3:58 pm
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      I think sufficient numbers

      I think sufficient numbers support that they were socraticyclist.

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    • ktache
      August 18, 2022 at 4:01 pm
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      Some have suggested it was

      Some have suggested it was socrapi.

      Definitely not Xena (though with the conspirinonsense more like rolouro?) they were obsessed with riding on stupidly light bikes, and definitely rode.

      It would seem that sometimes they REALLY feel the need to keep coming back.

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      • ktache
        August 18, 2022 at 4:05 pm
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        And I’d just like to say,

        And I’d just like to say,

        Not by the hair of my chinny, chin, chin!

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      • Hirsute
        August 18, 2022 at 4:07 pm
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        Xena could hardly string a

        Xena could hardly string a sentence together (no doubt caused by the drug use they admitted to), so can’t be Roulero (sp).

        Still love your line about xena nicking someone’s bikes and shed when they posted the same picture a few months apart under different usernames!

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      • chrisonabike
        August 18, 2022 at 4:10 pm
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        Dunno but they’ve never seen
        Dunno but they’ve never seen a kid cycling that they’ve liked… Bad experience maybe, or bikes are gateway drugs for motorcycles?

        Actually that could be shorter – I’m not sure I’ve read anything positive about cyclists from them full stop. Not even courteous and polite ones like Nigel.

        But hey, lots of reasons for rambling to others on t’internet.

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  18. Patrick9-32
    August 18, 2022 at 4:10 pm
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    Jeremy Kyle: “Hi, I’m a

    Jeremy Kyle: “Hi, I’m a massive Gammon and my froth is incredibly frothy, who would like to join me in being hugely frothed?”

    Gammons everywhere: “Froth me up daddy!”

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    • eburtthebike
      August 18, 2022 at 4:48 pm
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      Patrick9-32 wrote:

      Jeremy Kyle: “Hi, I’m a massive Gammon and my froth is incredibly frothy, who would like to join me in being hugely frothed?”

      Gammons everywhere: “Froth me up daddy!”

      — Patrick9-32

      This would explain their love of lattes.

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  19. hutchdaddy
    August 18, 2022 at 6:18 pm
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    I really didn’t believe that

    I really didn’t believe that Jeremy Kyle could sink any lower than he did on his TV show. How wrong I was.

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  20. hutchdaddy
    August 18, 2022 at 6:51 pm
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    I am going to have to wash my

    I am going to have to wash my brain with a brillo pad after exposing it to the somewhat dire and undesirable GB News.

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    • NOtotheEU
      August 18, 2022 at 7:15 pm
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      hutchdaddy wrote:

      I am going to have to wash my brain with a brillo pad after exposing it to the somewhat dire and undesirable GB News.

      — hutchdaddy

      To be fair to GB News, they have started to employ comedians to tell us the news. 

      All the other news outlets peddle their BS with a straight face, at least GB News gives you a laugh while trying to fill your head with lies.

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    • eburtthebike
      August 18, 2022 at 10:53 pm
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      hutchdaddy wrote:

      I am going to have to wash my brain with a brillo pad after exposing it to the somewhat dire and undesirable GB News

      — hutchdaddy

      Good news, GB News, a title not a description, may be going bankrupt and disappearing.

      I for one will be heartbroken.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        August 18, 2022 at 11:12 pm
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        Unfortunately not, losing one

        Unfortunately not, losing one funder and asking for (and getting) additional funds. 

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  21. cmedred
    August 18, 2022 at 8:23 pm
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    Andrew Pierce daily worries

    Andrew Pierce daily worries about being killed by a cyclist? Really? Like a cyclist is going to come flying through the window of his limo and crush him to death with the heft of her lycra-clad body? Because from the looks of him these days, he isn’t spending much time strolling the pavements or visiting the gym where a rogue spin bike might tear loose from its mountings and run him over. Or is it just his head that has swollen to make him look heftier on camera?

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Rendel Harris 18 minutes ago

@Jetmans Dad The question of whether there was intent is an extremely moot one: the video demonstrates that visibility was close to perfect, there was no oncoming traffic and Dick glanced to his left shortly before hitting the cyclist. There is no conceivable reason for him not to have seen her, nor is there any reason why he could not have given her a very wide berth. Impossible to prove in court, I realise, but I would not be in the least surprised if he did have intent to pass her close to give her a little fright and misjudged the distance. Anyone who doubts that (I don't include you, SVXY, as I doubt you actually ride a bicycle), think about the number of times you've been out riding in the same situation and have received unnecessarily close passes that could only be deliberate.

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Smoggysteve 46 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris "Great story in the Guardian " Can't say I've seen that mentioned very often in my time.

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Smoggysteve 48 minutes ago

@Jetmans Dad In the case of cycling, especially Time Trialling, A lot of that tech comes about from the team you ride for and the bikes supplied. Evanapoel has a strong tie with Specialized for their bike development, but for many other riders that has absolutely nothing to do with them or their nation. Is it not giving the competition a less than level playing field where one or two riders get far preferential treatment than the rest? Many riders could be forced to ride a less than optimal bike based on their current contractual obligations. This was very evident in Yorkshire when a certain Rohan Dennis rode a blacked out BMC instead of his pro teams provided Merida leading to his contract being terminated. If the bike plays that big a part in the event its not really a level playing field at all

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OrkneyDullard 52 minutes ago

The Giro Latch is an exceptional shoe - light, supportive, robust and grippy. I've worn two pairs into the ground and I'd buy them again. Avoid the similar Giro Deed, though; the outsole is just as good as the Latch but the insole is flimsier and provides much less support. Weirdly, the laces also come undone too readily. Ride Concepts' Tallac is a good option if you want a supportive shoe that will stand some hiking off the bike. The hex pattern on the sole works well with pinned pedals and seems to wear a little better than Giro's rubber, though that comes with a much higher price tag.

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Jetmans Dad 55 minutes ago

@SVXY You are not right about much in this thread, but this at least is correct ... The outcome does not determine a crime, or its seriousness. It is the equivalent of the age old football debate about whether a player deserves a longer ban because their tackle caused a serious injury. Assault requires intent. Just because the outcome of this particularly egregious incompetent driver causes injuries as serious as an assault would does not make it one. In cases like this, with no obviously illegal factor, such as phone use, drink or drugs etc. the punishment should be based on the level of incompetence of the driving. A lengthy ban (2 years is pathetic), extended retest at the end, an life ban from ever teacher others to drive would be more appropriate that prison.

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mitsky 59 minutes ago

@bensynnock Like when right-wingers in the US complain that talking about gun control shortly after a major incident is the wrong time. When is the right time? Given the US death rate by people using guns: ALL the time. The same goes for KSIs on roads, everywhere.

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Paul J 1 hour ago

@Jetmans Dad "Claiming it as solely a HUMAN sport would mean either everyone still riding steel framed, non-aero machines or simply mandating the specs for the bike and having everyone ride exactly the same machine. " ^ Sounds good to me!

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Liam Cahill 1 hour ago

@Jack Sexty @captain_slog the area behind the finish for media and riders was suuuuper tight so that was the widest shot I could get. Leon's face will feature plenty in our video which will hopefully be up later this week.

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Jetmans Dad 1 hour ago

Well yes. And no. It is a mechanically assisted sport, in that, unlike Formula One, it is generally not possible to become World Champion/Grand Tour/Monument winner solely on the basis of how good your bike is. However, as with F1, the top level of world cycling is where the innovation in road bikes is going to happen whether we like it or not. Claiming it as solely a HUMAN sport would mean either everyone still riding steel framed, non-aero machines or simply mandating the specs for the bike and having everyone ride exactly the same machine. That would probably mean the world's bike companies losing interest in the racing and/or having no rigourous, real world testing for the results of their R&D. Not saying either of those options is wrong per se, but for me seeing bike technology move forward and innovate is part of the fun, as long as, at the end of the day, it is still the best/best prepared rider that crosses the line first.

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mdavidford 1 hour ago

The obvious answer is to go the pentathlon horse route - the UCI provides an assortment of bikes, and riders are randomly assigned one by drawing of lots, with 20 minutes available to set them up.

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