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Is no pavement-riding rule for cyclists “nuts”? Campaigners in Australia fight to make it legal; Councillor blames police for victim blaming cyclists; Van der Poel wheelies on the beach; National Cyclocross Network; Dream SL8 build + more on the live blog

It’s the end of the week blog on road.cc and Adwitiya is tasked with bringing all the news, reaction and lots more!

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17 November 2023, 10:57
Cycling campaigners say it is "nuts" that cyclists aren't allowed to share the pavement with pedestrians in Australia, claiming that a rule change is "inevitable"

Campaigners in Australia are fighting to have a rule changed that they believe is "nuts".

Police crack down on speeding cyclists in Melbourne with £900 fines (via Sunrise News)

Anyone over the age of 16 riding a bicycle on the pavement in New South Wales can be slapped with a $116 fine. In Victoria, the age limit is even lower, anyone over the age 14 can run a risk of being fined up to $182 if found cycling on the footpath. This means cyclists in some of the biggest Australian cities, such as Sydney, Melbourne and its capital Canberra are forced to ride on the roads in traffic due to a lack of segregated cycle infrastructure.

> Melbourne cyclists face £900 fine for breaking 10km/h speed limit in shared zones

All this could soon be set to change, accelerated by the recent decision of Wollongong City Council which officially proposed such a change this week — a move supported by Bicycle NSW, a campaign group which is lobbying for a statewide ruling.

"It has to happen because of the lack of support for separated bike lanes," Edward Hore, President of the Australian Cycling Alliance, told Yahoo News Australia, saying many cyclists are "terrified" at the prospect of using busy roads.

Hore said the areas of main concern is the vast suburban sprawl outside of the Sydney and Melbourne CBDs where there are minimal shared paths or designated bike lanes.

"In places like Blacktown in Sydney there are lots of areas which have high-speed cars and trucks sharing the road with cyclists and they're not allowed to ride on the footpath," Mr Hore said.

"That's just nuts because that's where the crashes happen."

Sydney helmet protest ride (via Facebook video).jpg

Sydney helmet protest ride (via Facebook video)

> Aussie cyclists protest mandatory helmet laws with helmet-optional rides

Bicycle NSW chief executive Peter McLean also pointed to the successful co-existence of pedestrians and cyclists on footpaths in other states and abroad, stressing that pedestrians always have the right of way.

Hore dismissed concerns cyclists would cycle too fast on the footpath, saying riders are constantly maintaining a safe speed due to the amount of hazards such as cars exiting driveways. He argued cyclists would be going 20km/h at most, which is a "perfectly safe" speed.

WalkSydney spokeswoman Lena Huda has argued footpaths are already too congested, however, Mr Hore said the busiest footpaths are in the CBD where cyclists only use them once they've reached their destination.

Hmm, riding on the pavement, while illegal in the UK, seems like it would be welcome by cyclists in Australia. But is there a possibility that it could make matters worse with pedestrians and cyclists sharing the pavement? Or could this be the first step towards demanding better segregated infrastructure for cyclists? Let me know in the comments!

17 November 2023, 16:14
The season's getting closer! Only 100 days until Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
17 November 2023, 15:32
Wildest video I've seen today: A bottle of Moretti being opened in bizarre fashion (yes it's got something to do with cycling)

What has a video of a bottle of Birra Moretti being opened got to do with Hope Tech you ask? Well, obviously Hope has released a limited edition "crank arm bottle opener" for £40.

Hope crank arm bottle opener

Honestly, not a bad product to own or gift (obviously it's overpriced so be it as it may), but was the video really needed? 

17 November 2023, 13:38
Don't take away my bigger back wheels! The sad state of hour record bikes with standard back wheels being sold for ludicrous amounts of money

road.cc regular Jo Burt, and a known aficionado of all things cycling, wasn't very pleased this morning with what he saw on Facebook Marketplace.

A disgrace, some might even say an abomination! What has happened to the perpetually downhill-rolling, bigger wheel at the back, glorious reverse penny farthings today?

Famously, Francesco Moser, "Lo sceriffo", one of the all-time greats set the world hour record on such a bike, with two seat tubes, a 700c wheel at the front and a custom-built 1030c at the back. It's honestly quite enthralling to watch in action.

But of course, even this bike, is up for grabs at Steel Vintage Bikes.

Francesco Moser world hour record bike

If you've got the cash, send in an offer and see if that makes someone happy. Just please don't switch the giant back wheel for a regular sized one, and definitely keep UCI off your tail...

17 November 2023, 12:41
How I imagine my bike builds would go, featuring Specialized Tarmac SL8

I'm not even going to lie, I've most probably dreamt, or more like, had nightmares of things going horribly wrong when building a bike (now that I type this, it's less of a nightmare and more of a certain reality...).

But if, in an ideal world, bike builds weren't a greasy and mucky affair, this is how it would probably go. Can't deny that all black SL8 looks very, very appealing.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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17 November 2023, 12:34
So long, Rod Ellingworth and thanks for all the wins — Ineos Grenadiers’ deputy chief has reportedly resigned amidst rumours of backroom tension
Rod Ellingworth (picture copyright Russell Ellis russellis.co_.uk via SWpix.com)

According to a report this morning, Rod Ellingworth, the Ineos Grenadiers’ deputy team principal and one of the British squad’s founding members, has resigned from his role amid rumours of internal tensions, according to reports this morning, marking the end of an era for an Ineos team struggling to break out of a prolonged transitional period in recent years...

Read more: > Ineos Grenadiers’ deputy chief Rod Ellingworth resigns from British team amid rumours of backroom tension, according to reports

17 November 2023, 11:33
Are these VERY cheap bike upgrades and accessories too good to be true? Testing 10 budget cycling products from 'China's answer to Amazon'

We know Christmas is coming, so is Black Friday. You might be looking for some bike accessories/upgrades to gift your mates, so you go to Google (as you do today, instead of a bike shop), and maybe type in a vague search query for what you're looking for. And there, you are bombarded with search results from this website called Temu, with price tags too good to be true!

What's Temu, you ask? And are those dirt-cheap products any good? Worry not, the road.cc bought 10 things from Temu, the latest buzzy bargain basement online retailer to crop up amid the cost-of-living crisis, and put them through their paces to see if they're actually any good...

> Are these VERY cheap bike upgrades and accessories too good to be true? Testing 10 budget cycling products from 'China's answer to Amazon'

17 November 2023, 10:26
National "Cyclocross" Network?

To be fair, the NCN in where I live is pretty damn good. But this... I might need Van Aert-like CX skills to keep myself on the bike, given it's pretty much a stream flowing down there.

17 November 2023, 10:22
Mathieu van der Poel "wheelie" loves the beach

Look away now Peter Sagan fans. Something something "wheelies for show, attacking with a broken shoe for dough"...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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17 November 2023, 09:17
“I can’t facepalm this enough”: Councillor slams police for advising cyclists to wear “fluorescent for day, reflective for night”

Ah here we go again, another local police campaign to "keep cyclists safe" by... advising the cyclists.

Just getting this out here by the way: > Study finds that wearing hi-vis can INCREASE chance of collision while cycling

Anyway before we get ahead of ourselves, let's have a quick read of the post from Dorset Police.

Do you cycle to and from work? Wearing suitable clothing can help other road users to notice you.

[⛅] During daylight hours, wearing fluorescent clothing can help you to stand out against your surroundings.

[🌙] Once the sun goes down, cyclists should wear clothing with reflective tabards to help others to see them in the dark.

If you're cycling at night, remember that bikes should be equipped with a white light at the front and a red light and reflector at the back.

Right, nothing to see here, just a few casual rounds of "victim-blaming" according to numerous seething cyclists on social media. Just what the doctor ordered for a Friday morning!

However, Lib Dem councillor from Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council Adrian Chapmanlaw wasn't having any of it either. He shared the post on Twitter and Facebook, captioning with the words: "I can't facepalm this enough". I think I would tend to agree.

17 November 2023, 09:14
“Can’t the police use Google?” Cyclist mistakenly pulled over by police and threatened with ticket for “using phone” – and then gets lectured by officer for not wearing helmet or hi-vis`
HGV driver close passes cyclist, before cyclist is pulled over for 'phone use' (Liam, Twitter)

A cyclist who complained to the police after he was mistakenly pulled over by an officer for “using a mobile phone” while riding on the road – when, in fact, the cyclist was attempting to save footage of a close pass from a lorry driver on his bike camera – was later told that, though there is no specific offence for using an electronic device while riding a bike, his actions could still be deemed “careless and inconsiderate”.

During the incident, after stopping the cyclist the officer erroneously argued that it was illegal to use a phone or electronic device while cycling, telling the rider to “look it up”, said that he would have received a ticket – or been arrested or charged – had she not been on her own, and advised him that not wearing a helmet or hi-vis clothing could lead to him getting “killed or smushed”.

Read more: > “Can’t the police use Google?” Cyclist mistakenly pulled over by police and threatened with ticket for “using phone” – and then gets lectured by officer for not wearing helmet or hi-vis

Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after completing his masters in journalism from Cardiff University. His dissertation focused on active travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everything related to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football. He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Cymru, and also likes to write about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find him trying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.

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SimoninSpalding replied to hutchdaddy | 1 year ago
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Wow, hope you are OK - and that the driver stopped and gave their details?

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Oldfatgit replied to hutchdaddy | 1 year ago
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Hope you are OK.

If a driver isn't looking, choice of clothing is irrelevant.
But... at least when the other parties insurance tries to reduce your payout because you weren't "appropriately dressed", you can fight their claim.

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HLaB replied to hutchdaddy | 1 year ago
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Definitely your fault, from the picture you can clearly see you have no lights in broad daylight and you weren't wearing a helmet, when everything but your head hit the deck (what more victim blaming sh1te can you make up!).

Seriously, I hope the only damage done is the piggled bike and it gets sorted soon! 

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hutchdaddy replied to HLaB | 1 year ago
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No number plate, no road tax, no insurance, must have been jumping a red light....

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hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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Re: Australian anti-cyclist fines

Imagine how different it would look if car owners got slapped with a fine for driving on the pavement if their car is parked there.

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Mad Franky replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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they used to simply drive along the pavement outside my house so they didn't have to wait for oncoming traffic.

Got the council to put bollards in as my child nearly got run over by some clown.

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quiff replied to Mad Franky | 1 year ago
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There is a narrow (but wide enough) road on the way to my child's school where it seems to be de rigeur for all parents to drive along the pavement rather than slow down to an appropriate speed where two cars can pass safely. Boils. My. Piss.  

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squired | 1 year ago
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The problem is that it is always about whether they actually look.  If they don't look it doesn't matter what you are wearing.  I'm three weeks out from having a third surgery on my shoulder in the last eight months and my brother will forever have a crushed vertebrae.  In both cases we were taken out while wearing extremely bright clothing during summer afternoons. 

Having said that, a number of years ago I was cycling into work and a bus driver decided to give me abuse out of his window about not wearing a flourescent jacket.  At the time it was pitch black and I pointed out to him that I was wearing reflective clothing (and backpack cover), which was more effective in the dark.  He didn't seem to get it, and I think it just ultimately feeds into motorists having more reasons to moan about people on bikes.

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hawkinspeter replied to squired | 1 year ago
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squired wrote:

The problem is that it is always about whether they actually look.  If they don't look it doesn't matter what you are wearing.  I'm three weeks out from having a third surgery on my shoulder in the last eight months and my brother will forever have a crushed vertebrae.  In both cases we were taken out while wearing extremely bright clothing during summer afternoons. 

Having said that, a number of years ago I was cycling into work and a bus driver decided to give me abuse out of his window about not wearing a flourescent jacket.  At the time it was pitch black and I pointed out to him that I was wearing reflective clothing (and backpack cover), which was more effective in the dark.  He didn't seem to get it, and I think it just ultimately feeds into motorists having more reasons to moan about people on bikes.

Look, if we can just get all pedestrians, cyclists and other road users to wear bright, reflective, hi-viz clothing with both flashing and steady lights on all the time, then it'll save the drivers having to pay attention - the progress on Candy Crush will make it all worth while.

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chrisonabike replied to squired | 1 year ago
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Sadly there's none so blind as those who aren't actually looking.

Moving to a separate topic but it's not just "looking at lap" / "not bothering to check".  Human brains are excellent at finding labour-saving heuristics.  Through repeated non-exposure to cyclists I think people are often "only looking for motor vehicles".  It's not that they're trying, their brains have just learned to discard all the other stuff.  I've had a few memorable daylight "I can see you, looking right at me ... and oh shit you aren't seeing me are you" moments.

Feature of humans: so rather than only trying to fight it (by trying to make millions of drivers much better all the time) some places have aided people by making it absolutely bleeding obvious where to expect the people walking / on bikes (at side roads [1] [2], at junctions, on roundabouts).  And have those designs bog standard and ubiquitous so you get daily reinforcement.

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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In bright sun, it doesn't matter what you wear as it all looks black.
Contrast is more important than saying wear flouro.
Being older and more risk averse, I just have a light and don't worry about the clothing.

Drive at a speed where you can stop within the distance you can see to be clear. Adjust speed / distance further for winding country roads with tight bends.

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bloodylazylayabout replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Yes, when I used to commute I always used lights (can't remember whether I started before I almost rode into the back of another cyclist going uphill into a lowish sun - I was certainly glad I wasn't doing any speed)

I always preferred it in the winter once it was dark on the winding country roads - cars coming the other way would almost always stop/slow coming up to corners when they say my light coming the other way

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Adam Sutton replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Bright low winter sun is one of the worse, especially when the roads are wet and reflecting light back up. 

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Sriracha replied to Adam Sutton | 1 year ago
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That's what polarising sunglasses are for.

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Hirsute replied to Adam Sutton | 1 year ago
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Covid caused me to cycle at lunchtime and then rapidly get a cateye viz 300 when I realised that the winter sun matched the nsl road I was on at that time of day. Was evenlater tempted by the 450.

* this is purely my approach for my risk appetite. Other approaches are available.

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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"Is your car painted a metallic grey, the colour of a road in the rain?  Consider having it resprayed fluoro yellow so as to help other road users see you."

I do still wonder what the purpose of those big lamp-things on the fronts of motor vehicles is, if they require everything else around them to be fluoro or reflective... 

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Car Delenda Est replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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They're devices for activating hi-vis clothing, cyclists should be grateful that the British public are doing so much of the work of keeping cyclists safe for them /s

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