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I’m confused: “ A driver who took a selfie, watched videos and sent messages at the wheel before killing a cyclist was jailed for five years, whilst a hit-and-run motorist who subsequently struck the same rider….” How does that work? Resurrection? Did the poor unfortunate cyclist recover from his/her case of death, only to be hit by a motorist again? Please, I don’t mean to make light of either case, merely to point out the poor/lazy journalism….
It was certainly an exciting watch today. Surprised that INEOS selected Ganna and Tarling. It felt like win at all costs and they didn't quite manage it. Personally I would rather see more riders having to stay together till the finish. It will reduce opportunities for teams to "rest" climbing domestiques and it preserves the spectacle and identity of the TTT discipline. Great start to the tour. Vingegaard is obviously in outstanding shape, but will he pay for today's effort later on.
@chrisonabike Yes does it mean those without it are intrinsically less safe because they don't appear on the motorists' "radar" (in both senses of the word)? This is the problem with bike radars - they aren't addressing the root cause. The problem isn't cyclists being informed just before a motorist smacks into them for which the cyclists can do very little. The problem is motorists not taking evasive action before they (almost?) collide with the cyclist. Radar should be mandatory for cars.
I watched it in thé Dauphiné but didn't get that feeling.
Incoming Betteridge's Law here ("No"). I don't know if this becomes a "thing" but let's say it did: Pro: see round corners etc. And and increasing number of bikes (not just ebikes) have batteries / wireless / other tech anyway... Con: could easily become yet another way to relocate responsibility for safety from drivers, without substantially or reliably improving safety for others. Why? Not guaranteed (both your system AND all the other road users' systems need to be exist / be working / be enabled). How well does the bike interface work anyway (vibration could be masked by road noise; does everyone have both hands on the handlebars at all times? If it becomes prevalent it's easy to see the police / lawyers reaching for "bicycle didn't have (the latest version of) this thus the cyclist was irresponsible / brought it on themselves". For those who are "chips-with-everything" / "Internet-of-everything"-skeptical (that boat has sailed...) this would be yet another driver for "you used to buy a bike now you buy another smartphone".
100% agree, I have Assos and they work a lot better for me, yes they’re more expensive but a lot comfier and last a lot longer. So cost per ride Assos win hands down over Le Col.
@mikecassie I bought a pair that lasted 2 rides before the stitching wore through. I complained about this and they basically said sorry, its your saddle, no one else has this issue. I've got various pairs of Assos bib shorts that have lasted me years with zero issues. They were just awfully designs. The stitching was loose and right over the location where your leg would interface with the saddle if there was going to be any friction. Looking at my assos bibs, all the seams are placed where your movement isn't going to cause problems and all of them are tight to the point of being recessed to make sure that any rubbing isn't on an exposed thread. Le Col offered me 20% off a new pair of their bibs which I politely declined as I didn't think 2 short rides was worth paying 80% of RRP for.
@darnac I know cycling is a team sport to a considerable degree but I have always thought that taking the time on the fourth rider gives too much advantage to the richest teams, the ones who can afford to have three or more Galácticos backing up their leader. Having individual times for each rider seems to me closer to the spirit of the race, i.e. the man who goes round the whole parcours in the lowest time wins. With the old system you could end up with a somewhat absurd situation where rider A actually rode the Tour a minute quicker than their rivals but rider B takes the title because their fourth man in the TTT finished 1.01 ahead of rider A's fourth man. Besides, having watched this format in the Dauphiné, it definitely does make it more exciting and at a time when the standard moan is that with one rider, or two at most, dominant the racing has become too boring that's not really a bad thing.
@nick_stokie Pretty impossible to hide that in the last km of the Tour with maybe 100 cameras on them not to mention everyone's phones.
The "same time in the last kilometre" rule feels exploitable if a team was cunning. Given the last section is uphill then full team effort to the 1km red kite before the most powerful rider does the last 1km solo. If the others were to sit up and coast in they would get a slower individual time. If they had a 'soft' crash into each other or a mechanical (who verifies this?) then then get the better finish time of the more powerful rider. Not very sporting but...
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Even if he hadn’t been carring a big-a$$ knife, it seemed like a clear-cut case for assault, I’m afraid. Carrying the knife? Not sure how this was a suspended sentence.
And, the media is calling him a cyclist. That’s like saying a bank robber was a motorist or a pedestrian and, you know what, they don’t do that.
And, and, why is it called a zombie knife anyway? Last time I checked, there was no such thing as zombies IRL…
brooksby wrote:
Clearly you’re not prepared for the zombie apocalypse, foolish man! I have a full detailed escape and survival plan.
peted76 wrote:
Worryingly – I don’t know if you’re yanking my chain…
brooksby wrote:
He was kidnapped by people who in all likelyhood would do it again, so I can see why he might turn to carrying a knife for protection. I am not saying in any way shape or form that it is right, but I can see the logic.
In the video it looks like the car in question pulls out without indicating and knock the guy off the bike and crashes into a car in trying to get away (hit and run).
It is after he has been assaulted by a weapon (the car) that he retaliates with the knife that he is now carrying around with him for protection.
Given this series of events I can see how mitigating factors can be a factor in the sentencing.
If I had just been knocked of my bike by a car I would be pretty mad too!
ClubSmed wrote:
This was no road rage attack. If you watch the vid, the bike pulls up alongside the car *before* the car pulls out. Reckon the bike rider and driver knew each other. The erratic driving says to me the driver knew he was in trouble before the knife gets pulled out.
Good point Pete. I believe
Good point Pete. I believe Hawkinspeter has an entire underground bunker with years of food and supplies and an army of thousands of highly trained anti-zombie special forces squirrels ready to take on the hoards of the undead.
StraelGuy wrote:
What, just one?
Cracking legs to the person
Cracking legs to the person in the top pick wearing a black jacket and the green brompton.
Scoob_84 wrote:
Didn’t notice – too busy looking at the well developed glutes on the left..
This one is pretty insane:
This one is pretty insane:
Cycliq Fly6 – Roadrage in Scotland
cdamian wrote:
I’ve had similar to that in the past. No point trying to argue the toss with a nutter.
Hope the cyclist was ok and some action was taken against the driver.
In another scenario the
In another scenario the driver gets stabbed/shot, would be no fucking great loss either.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
as seen very recently some people are taking weapons with them, in places like London, Manchester/NirthWest, Glasgow, West Yorks, all places that have high rates of weapon carrying. As I said, another scenario is one where the assailant gets a deadly weapon used against them. You never know in these times particularly in certain areas where it would be more prevalent for young men to be tooled up.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
— Yorkshire wallet as seen very recently some people are taking weapons with them, in places like London, Manchester/NirthWest, Glasgow, West Yorks, all places that have high rates of weapon carrying. As I said, another scenario is one where the assailant gets a deadly weapon used against them. You never know in these times particularly in certain areas where it would be more prevalent for young men to be tooled up.— BehindTheBikesheds
Guns for cyclists? Just for defence like.
You would only take a weapon
You would only take a weapon if you were expecting trouble. People who expect trouble usually have no problem in finding it.
Mungecrundle wrote:
As it happens you hear often on forums about arming up and to take a D-Lock or a chain so that one can smash it through the windscreen/against a person, are these wrong uns just going out to look for trouble?
And your comment ignores what I said, on another occasion the outcome could be very different, particularly in areas where knife and gun crime are prevalent. Would it be common place, of course not, but that’s the thing, can you absolutely be sure what any one person is capable of, how they might react in a scenario as per the video?
Can you tell by looking at someone who is going to be violent in a confrontation, who might be carrying a d-lock and smash it in your face and beat you to within an inch of your life, or a knife/gun/solid bar and do you serious harm? Is it that hoodie wanka on a BMX or is that just a kid going to see his mates. Is it that tattoo adorned emo looking person on a fixie, maybe that white middle aged man with a helmet and carbon bike who actually turns out to be a bit of a pscho and will punch you so hard his victim dies? That will be the Paul Lambeth case if you want to look it up.
That criminals and wrong uns do use bikes is a twisted confirmation that cycles really are the transport machine of the masses and for all types of scenarios. IF they whilst using a bike to get wherever they are going to are carrying a weapon and someone they do not know takes umbridge at them being in their way/riding like a prick/doing something else that has pricked their driverwanka, a likely scenario isn’t one of a chase but one of driver gets out, driver gets threatened with knife/gun. depending on said youths state of mind that could end really badly for them.
In cases like this where the assailent is hell bent on assaulting the victim you find yourself wishing that the assailent does get the rough end of it.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
Not sure I have any particular disagreement with your straw man argument. Just saying that people who prepare for trouble, at least to the extent of arming themselves, are either actively looking for an excuse or on something of a hair trigger to retaliate, maybe due to previous experiences or for whatever reason.
The fact that this news item
The fact that this news item is a news item shows how scarce knife violence is in reality. It does happen, but it seems pointless to arm yourself unless there’s a specific reason you might be targetted (e.g. gambling debts, drug deals, forcing crappy Brexit deals through, squirrel smuggling etc.).
Just be prepared to defend yourself and you’ll almost never have to.
hawkinspeter wrote:
That’s a Masonic greating if ever I saw one.
Mungecrundle wrote:
Well, one variant possibly.
I prefer to use this handshake to identify myself:
Your Gif unfortunatly
Your Gif unfortunatly features no squirrels, and the squirrel reference in the text doesn’t quite cut it.
Isn’t his saddle a little bit far forward? I think he needs a bike fitting.
ktache wrote:
I was queueing up the squirrel pic for a response, so I do apologise for disappointing you.
Ooooh! Proper Top Gear’s back
Ooooh! Proper Top Gear’s back.