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Live blog: A good bike ride spoiled; Zwift art; a fifth of Aussie drivers admit experiencing cyclist road rage + more

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@Mr Blackbird It's quite a skill.
@Terry Hutt good point, although while doing testing without a helmet I broke my shoulder and have suffered various other contusions. So I suggest the control should not be "no helmet" as in my experience that adds the confounding variable of your other limbs and appendages as (for some) instinct will mean you sacrifice them to protect your head...
@mdavidford or the highly skilled cycle football / radball players...
@No Reply dunno about childish, but I haven't heard that one since the 90s. Can't say I miss it.
Bit harsh on the BMXers.
@No Reply Er, nope - there are no age restrictions on the site. As previously noted, though, if it were restricted to adults, your choice of language would seem to mark you out as someone who shouldn't be on it.
@Mr Blackbird This is an adult forum. If adults are getting so worked up over the term bum chum, then they need to get a grip. People have a right to be offended, people have a right to offend. But if someone finds offence in something, it doesn’t mean its offensive. It means they are offended. Two different things. I am as free to offend as you are to feel offended. Freedom of speech. Do you want to silence freedom of speech? Or just silence things you don’t like?
@No Reply You obviously have a lot of knowledge of cyclo cross and make a valid point, but why detract from your comment by using a phrase that is probably offensive to the majority of readers?
@chrisonabike I think the important message here is that your head will fly 20% further if you are wearing a collapsible helmet. Has anyone researched how far your head will fly if you're not wearing a helmet at all? Seems worthy of a research grant.
Any cyclist caught cycling backwards (on a non-fixed wheel bike) should be jailed for at least 2 years and have their bike confiscated. Such a despicable manoeuvre is dangerously confusing to motorists and pedestrians.
20 thoughts on “Live blog: A good bike ride spoiled; Zwift art; a fifth of Aussie drivers admit experiencing cyclist road rage + more”
From the videos we see from
From the videos we see from Oz, this isn’t going to surprise anyone, but the Guardian article doesn’t mention what the authorities are doing to correct this overt bias by drivers and makes it pretty clear that they are doing the sum of the square of sfa.
This isn’t just a problem in Oz, and as is evidenced every day in newspaper and web comments, the utter ignorance of drivers about road law is astounding, and must lead to questions about whether our current system of licencing is appropriate. If so many drivers are unaware of the law and put vulnerable road users at risk, the system isn’t working. Do we need regular re-testing, especially focussing on behaviour towards vulnerable road users?
From the Guardian (my
From the Guardian (my emphasis):
brooksby wrote:
I’m trying not to mention helmets, but I’m weakening fast.
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I’m trying not to mention helmets, but I’m weakening fast.
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In the conext that helmets are not the issue here I hope.
Supersam wrote:
I think its just very worrying that Australia mandated helmets to increase cyclists’ safety, and yet numbers of cyclist deaths are still increasing so drastically. Its almost as if wearing a helmet doesn’t have a very great effect on KSI statistics…
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brooksby wrote:
Given the drops in cycling since the mid 80s and going further back to the early 50s when cycling was ridiculously safe in Australia http://www.cycle-helmets.com/cycling-1985-2011.html# they have fallen massively, and yet their government is even more ignorant of the issues than ours which is going some!
There are now calls for a 5 year test period for adults to cycle sans helmet but stupidly only off road, those 17 and under will still be forced to wear IF and that’s a big if the proposed changes get approval.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
you do realise the issue is more complex than a did they or didnt they wear a helmet question???
nigerian prince wrote:
You do understand that we know that.
You do understand that saying “there might be other issues” doesn’t change the point that such a massive increase in cyclist deaths in a country which mandated cycle helmets ostensibly to improve cyclist safety is a bit concerning…
brooksby wrote:
It’s an anti-BTBS sockpuppet, created by someone who’s already anonymous on an Internet forum. And, despite their username, I haven’t seen any offers to inherit millions yet. Just rude.
davel wrote:
honestly I’ve had it with the vitriol on this site. It’s a sad place, for sad middle aged men shouting into the digital abyss. Fucking losers, the lot of you.
nigerian prince wrote:
You think this site is full of vitriol? Don’t ever venture to the comments section of the Mail Online then especially with that user name (then again it might blow their minds – on one hand Nigerian = non white immigrant, on the other Prince = Royalty)
nigerian prince wrote:
you do realise you’re now shouting into the digital abyss?
nigerian prince wrote:
I love a good flounce, but that was average.
nigerian prince wrote:
Goodbye and thank you for going.
burtthebike wrote:
Just think how much worse it would be if they hadn’t mandated helmets?
(Sorry, but not sorry)
burtthebike wrote:
I thought I’d leave that can of worms well alone…
brooksby wrote:
So one in four accidents led to a prosecution, or at least some sort of trial, of driving without due care and attention?
moved to Aus’ 5 years ago and
moved to Aus’ 5 years ago and my experience is some drivers really go out of their way to inform cyclists how much they hate them in a very threatening way – as well as attitude and distraction drugs and driving are a real problem and feature in many serious collisions – driving is an absolute right and driving at or a few km/hr above the speed limit is essential …if looking at urban cycling like to quote this study – experienced cycle commuters in Canberra review of video of daily commutes …from the summary:
“No collision events were recorded. A total of 91 potentially unsafe cyclist-interactions were identified. In the majority of events (93.4%), the behaviour of the driver led to the event. The most common event type was left turn (37.3%) which involved a driver turning left across the path of the cyclist, drivers turning across cyclists’ path from the adjacent direction (32.9%). Unexpectedly opened vehicle doors accounted for 17.6% of cyclist-driver interactions. In the majority of all events, a crash was avoided due to the evasive actions taken by cyclists.”
Bold added by me – original is large pdf here:
https://www.monash.edu/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/217306/muarc322.pdf
like to think that very very slowly police are realising Aus’ is way out of step but maybe I’m too hopeful
Chilled out pup!
Chilled out pup!
I was just about to send you
I was just about to send you my account number, Alanis…