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Live blog: Stop Killing Cyclists to hold major London protest, Jeremy Vine’s Psycho encounter, a shockingly close overtake, + more
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Wed, Oct 03, 2018 15:02
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Paul J 23 minutes ago
@Rendel Harris Interesting thanks. We do have to go back to the fundamental issue here. It is a _race_. And the GC is meant to reflect who is the best rider overall, over a range of conditions, over the 3 weeks. And part of that is using their judgement to navigate the course. I mean, riding in a big, tight, bunch on a straight road is dangerous too. See Pogacar. Should _all_ of the Grand Tours be neutralised, bar the uphill sections and TTs? Where are we going with this? I definitely agree with the many comments - ranging from commentators on TV, to road.cc journalists, to comments here and elsewhere - that this question needs to be addressed more formally within the rules of the UCI. Or else this fester and get ever more ridiculous.
chrisonabike 24 minutes ago
I'm guessing he's a day-only Captain Nemo? On the other hand if he simply can't commute to work perhaps he's just a ROV pilot?
mark1a 46 minutes ago
@Riggers I used to buy a lot from Wiggle, and since then, unfortunately nowhere has come close in my opinion for a one-stop shop, so for me now it's a combination of: Decathlon (clothing) Merlin (tyres, drivetrain components) Woolly Hat Shop/bikeparts.co.uk (tools, drivetrain components) Sigma Sports (clothing, misc accessories) SJS (components) BikeInn (misc accessories)
mdavidford 48 minutes ago
What exactly do you think I said you said that wasn't what you said? Because you appear to be saying that you did say what i said you said - that it may provide useful information to inform the way that clinical cases should be assessed and handled when they present. Or as you put it: The issue is that they themselves didn't conclude this - they claimed that it provides information about the risks of ebiking and related behaviours, and that it could inform policy in those areas. It doesn't and it shouldn't.
mdavidford 1 hour ago
Do you work in a secret bunker in the middle of a mountain? Or a mine?
mdavidford 1 hour ago
Mountain biking does a lot less harm to nature than, er, paving trails. Also, I'm pretty sure that "federal court" has no particular sway in the UK.
Mr Blackbird 1 hour ago
I think horse riders would prefer not to ride on the roads, but they often have to use them to get between stables and bridleways. Also if one horse rode behind another the one in front can sometimes kick out at the one behind because it feels threatened. The point is that many drivers travel too fast on narrow twisty country roads and fail to allow for unanticipated (by them) events such as cyclists, horses, pedestrians, sheep, tractors, fallen trees etc being on the road and badgers, pheasants etc crossing the road.
Rendel Harris 2 hours ago
@Paul J More information has come out today which indicates that the riders did not believe that the conditions were fine, apparently a lot of the roads were extremely slippery (this seems to have been a problem throughout the race, presumably due to dust caused by the excessive heat) and so the many hairpins had become hazardous. Secondly the riders felt that the nature of the circuit made it impossible for any riders suffering a crash or mechanical to get back on as the peloton would be so strung out and it would take so long for assistance to reach anyone in need. Decathlon rider Sander de Pestel told journalists that in his opinion a GC rider wouldn't be able to get back on even if they had an incident at 40 km to go. Take that with a pinch of salt or not as you wish but those two sound like quite legitimate reasons for the riders to be concerned.
Geoff H 2 hours ago
@Chris RideFar ..... and the first thing they do is crank that throttle all the way! WHOO HOO!!! Look at me go!!!
Terry Hutt 2 hours ago
I wish I could commute to work but my house is 5000' above where I work :-( That's 1500 meters for you metric types. Good article. Can I suggest silk glove liners under your fingerless cycling gloves. Not waterproof but gives you an extra 10 degrees of cold protection.
16 thoughts on “Live blog: Stop Killing Cyclists to hold major London protest, Jeremy Vine’s Psycho encounter, a shockingly close overtake, + more”
I do always wonder why only
I do always wonder why only private motorists are described as “hard working”: it’s never bus passengers or train passengers or cyclists. Aren’t *we* hard working too?
I’m quite lazy….do i have
I’m quite lazy….do i have to pay more fuel duty?
When I worked, often I was
When I worked, often I was quite lazy as well. Now I don’t work at all. Do I pay more fuel duty, or will we receive a tweet saying it’s another measure this government is taking to help leave more money in unemployed lazy people’s pockets?
Should have increased it and
Should have increased it and used the money to subsidise stopping up roads for motors in towns and cities everywhere and converting car parks into covered cycle parking.
yet more fuckwittery from the cons but Labour will do no better and has no cycle/active policy of any note.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
£9 bn a year that has cost the UK economy – £81,000,000,000!
The estimate for the cost to fix all of the UK’s potholes is…..£8.9bn
alexb wrote:
the state of the roads is utterly disgraceful at the moment. In London, which is supposed to be a global city and stinkingly wealthy, some of them are worse than third world countries that I know – worse even than Blackburn, Lancashire. You could fill Wembley Stadium with these holes.
I have recently started cycling after work to a regular event in North West London. To get there I cycle along Tottenham Court Road, and to get home I have to cycle along Chamberlayne Road, in Kensal Rise. You’d think a fucking aeroplane had crashed onto them, they’re so pitted.
And now that the evenings are drawing in they become even more dangerous as the craters are difficult to spot, even with lights, and with traffic all around me I should not be having to concentrate on the road surface while I cycle.
You can bet your life, perhaps literally, that they won’t be repaired anytime in the next six months, because of the approach of winter, so they’re only going to get worse. God knows what they’ll be like in spring if we have a lot of freeze/thaw cycles.
While writing this I’ve been asking myself, ok moaning is all very well, but what are you going to do about it? So I think I’ll spend a day photographing all the potholes with Fix That Hole, and bombard the councils with them. It may not get them fixed, but at least if I’m killed or injured the councils can’t turn round and say they weren’t aware.
Bloody hell that pass is the
Bloody hell that pass is the closest I’ve seen… to the point I’m not sure the driver even saw the rider and missed him by luck.
Re fuel prices, the price of fuel has gone up by over 30%, so the VAT take has risen.
It gets on my nerves that the cost of high value EVs (BMW i8 for example, £124k and you get a £2.5k rebate because its a hybrid!) is subsidised by us ‘hard working people’. Why aren’t bikes and accessories lower VAT rated?
PRSboy wrote:
Its not. The i8 gets nothing because it is over £60k. Theoretically expensive hybrids with very low emissions could get the grant, but in practice there are no cat 1 hybrids of any price and it is only pure EVs.
However, I do agree about VAT on bikes and bike accessories, which would make a huge difference, but equally I can bet most of the savings would be made by people buying £1k+ N+1 bikes rather than cheap commuters, and also I do understand that changing VAT rates is not simple, at least whilst we are in the EU (although I would keep paying a bit more for my bikes if it meant staying in).
John Smith wrote:
Ah, you’re right… not realised the i8 was excempt. That said, the Tesla S and the i-Pace get £4,500 rebate as they are cat 1, but are mega money. Should be a sliding scale or cap based on list price IMO, give a bigger rebate to cheaper EVs where there is a potentially bigger market.
Jesus, that pass was
Jesus, that pass was horrendous. Looks like the driver saw him at the last second as the car appears to swerve away. I don’t think even the most ardent cyclist hater could close pass that close on purpose. Just plain not paying attention.
My guess is driver was
My guess is driver was distracted, cyclist seen at the very last second. So close!
Surely the real hard workers
Surely the real hard workers are those working long hours on low pay to try and make ends meet, who can’t afford to fork out the initial investment of a car so instead, they have to use public transport – why not sort out public transport first?!
Pretty much everyone I know drives to work (single occupancy) this causes pollution and congestion. Why drive? Because the public transport and active travel infrastructure are appalling/non-existent.
I’m lazy and get the train
I’m lazy and get the train and cycle to work, so I guess it’s my fault. Sorry everyone.
Teresa May can only rectify
Teresa May can only rectify this by getting a good deal in the Brexit negotiations; no import duties on Campagnolo gear sets.
F**k me that was close. I
F**k me that was close. I just can’t cycle at night now, or at rush hour either end of the day, or at lunchtimes when pedestrians have their faces in their phones, or mid afternoon during the school run. Basically I ride between 1030 and 1130, unless it’s a weekend which is when the drivers who still have alcohol in their system are on the roads. Basically, I just Zwift.
Driver checking Facebook I’d
Driver checking Facebook I’d wager.