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Live blog: Stop Killing Cyclists to hold major London protest, Jeremy Vine’s Psycho encounter, a shockingly close overtake, + more

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I spend a month most years in China because of family, and a cargo bike there with an electric motorbike style front end and either LFP or advanced lead acid batteries, costs under £100 and is the backbone of every trade. There are a hundred different kinds but what they share in common is functionality and cheapness. Even the ancient pedal pulled wooden wagons with literally welded spokes from the sixties have been electrified with e-motors attached to the underside - and they cost sod all. In China cheap transport for business is a public good like drinking water. Because to get people to work you have to make work affordable. That's a secret of capitalism we in the UK could do better to learn.
@Zermattjohn handmade genuinely means handmade with Challenge. You cannot compare ride quality of a mass produced, vulcanized Panaracer tyre with these. The ride quality is incredibly supple, and can transform a riding experience. More expensive yes, but worth every penny!
@SecretSam 2019 Tour (don't see anyone else putting their hand up to say they won it), 2021 Giro, 2019 Paris-Nice, 2019 Tour de Suisse, 2018 Tour of California. So I'd say Lesterama is about right with his burned bright comment.
"Over 1,000 dockless bikes seized in Westminster The authority said the bikes would continue to be removed where they caused an obstruction, with operators charged for their return." Would love to know how many motor vehicles were removed (and their "operators" charged for their return) for the same reason. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c84g1x0g0d42o
@OnYerBike Thanks for the interesting article link (table below for any interested), as you say it does show that the top 10% of pros manage 4.63 w/kg over four hours, but that only extrapolates to 325W if the rider is 70kg, and of course a lot of them are well below that, e.g. Vinegaard 60kg so his power over four hours would be more like 279W at that w/kg. Note also that the average for the bottom 90% is "only" 3.83 w/kg, so the average 68kg (World Tour average weight) rider in that cohort would be putting out 260W over four hours. So I'd still argue that across the average of the peleton, with 10% capable of about 325W over four hours and the other 90% about 260W, a figure for the whole peleton of around 280-290W would be more realistic.
I'm on there 4-6 times a week (mainly commuting, so generally no later than 1900); mostly you see illegal/chipped ebikes and scooters going 'like a bullet' being ridden by people just like me. Haven't come across the balaclava, wheely pulling electric bike types this year though. Mostly, you need to be vigilant for kamikaze squirrels, loafing cats and dogs off the lead.
@jackcycles Ummm...I think you'll find many MPs have successfully run businesses and worked in all sorts of sectors previously. As for 'business experience', I'm not a plumber, but I know the sort of kit that plumbers carry. My plumber arrives by car, so...
@lesterama Not sure he burned that bright, he won his sole tour by default, not by merit, and would probably have been mown down by the Pog/Ving double act since
Bernal's statement: I didn't realise he had a background in corporate communications. Seriously, though, he burned bright. It's strange now to think that back in 2019 we thought he would dominate the sport for years.
@mitsky shurely it was at most one driver, because the red was not "established" before then...?
16 thoughts on “Live blog: Stop Killing Cyclists to hold major London protest, Jeremy Vine’s Psycho encounter, a shockingly close overtake, + more”
I do always wonder why only
I do always wonder why only private motorists are described as “hard working”: it’s never bus passengers or train passengers or cyclists. Aren’t *we* hard working too?
I’m quite lazy….do i have
I’m quite lazy….do i have to pay more fuel duty?
When I worked, often I was
When I worked, often I was quite lazy as well. Now I don’t work at all. Do I pay more fuel duty, or will we receive a tweet saying it’s another measure this government is taking to help leave more money in unemployed lazy people’s pockets?
Should have increased it and
Should have increased it and used the money to subsidise stopping up roads for motors in towns and cities everywhere and converting car parks into covered cycle parking.
yet more fuckwittery from the cons but Labour will do no better and has no cycle/active policy of any note.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
£9 bn a year that has cost the UK economy – £81,000,000,000!
The estimate for the cost to fix all of the UK’s potholes is…..£8.9bn
alexb wrote:
the state of the roads is utterly disgraceful at the moment. In London, which is supposed to be a global city and stinkingly wealthy, some of them are worse than third world countries that I know – worse even than Blackburn, Lancashire. You could fill Wembley Stadium with these holes.
I have recently started cycling after work to a regular event in North West London. To get there I cycle along Tottenham Court Road, and to get home I have to cycle along Chamberlayne Road, in Kensal Rise. You’d think a fucking aeroplane had crashed onto them, they’re so pitted.
And now that the evenings are drawing in they become even more dangerous as the craters are difficult to spot, even with lights, and with traffic all around me I should not be having to concentrate on the road surface while I cycle.
You can bet your life, perhaps literally, that they won’t be repaired anytime in the next six months, because of the approach of winter, so they’re only going to get worse. God knows what they’ll be like in spring if we have a lot of freeze/thaw cycles.
While writing this I’ve been asking myself, ok moaning is all very well, but what are you going to do about it? So I think I’ll spend a day photographing all the potholes with Fix That Hole, and bombard the councils with them. It may not get them fixed, but at least if I’m killed or injured the councils can’t turn round and say they weren’t aware.
Bloody hell that pass is the
Bloody hell that pass is the closest I’ve seen… to the point I’m not sure the driver even saw the rider and missed him by luck.
Re fuel prices, the price of fuel has gone up by over 30%, so the VAT take has risen.
It gets on my nerves that the cost of high value EVs (BMW i8 for example, £124k and you get a £2.5k rebate because its a hybrid!) is subsidised by us ‘hard working people’. Why aren’t bikes and accessories lower VAT rated?
PRSboy wrote:
Its not. The i8 gets nothing because it is over £60k. Theoretically expensive hybrids with very low emissions could get the grant, but in practice there are no cat 1 hybrids of any price and it is only pure EVs.
However, I do agree about VAT on bikes and bike accessories, which would make a huge difference, but equally I can bet most of the savings would be made by people buying £1k+ N+1 bikes rather than cheap commuters, and also I do understand that changing VAT rates is not simple, at least whilst we are in the EU (although I would keep paying a bit more for my bikes if it meant staying in).
John Smith wrote:
Ah, you’re right… not realised the i8 was excempt. That said, the Tesla S and the i-Pace get £4,500 rebate as they are cat 1, but are mega money. Should be a sliding scale or cap based on list price IMO, give a bigger rebate to cheaper EVs where there is a potentially bigger market.
Jesus, that pass was
Jesus, that pass was horrendous. Looks like the driver saw him at the last second as the car appears to swerve away. I don’t think even the most ardent cyclist hater could close pass that close on purpose. Just plain not paying attention.
My guess is driver was
My guess is driver was distracted, cyclist seen at the very last second. So close!
Surely the real hard workers
Surely the real hard workers are those working long hours on low pay to try and make ends meet, who can’t afford to fork out the initial investment of a car so instead, they have to use public transport – why not sort out public transport first?!
Pretty much everyone I know drives to work (single occupancy) this causes pollution and congestion. Why drive? Because the public transport and active travel infrastructure are appalling/non-existent.
I’m lazy and get the train
I’m lazy and get the train and cycle to work, so I guess it’s my fault. Sorry everyone.
Teresa May can only rectify
Teresa May can only rectify this by getting a good deal in the Brexit negotiations; no import duties on Campagnolo gear sets.
F**k me that was close. I
F**k me that was close. I just can’t cycle at night now, or at rush hour either end of the day, or at lunchtimes when pedestrians have their faces in their phones, or mid afternoon during the school run. Basically I ride between 1030 and 1130, unless it’s a weekend which is when the drivers who still have alcohol in their system are on the roads. Basically, I just Zwift.
Driver checking Facebook I’d
Driver checking Facebook I’d wager.