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Live blog: Ian Walker wins the North Cape 4000, Metro tweet footage of truck driver nearly turning into cyclist (and blames cyclist) + more
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Wed, Aug 08, 2018 14:33
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wtjs 34 minutes ago
I'm in the happy position of agreeing with everybody here! I've never considered a bike with a stand, yet I'm impressed by the ingenuity and adaptability of this axle. I tow a Yak Bob with a Robert Axle, employing my El Cheapo Vitus gravel bike and I just have to be very careful where I stop. Hedges are generally a dead loss, and I seek walls, telegraph poles and signposts and generally lean the widest part of the Bob against it. One very awkward task is removing the two steel pins which lock the trailer arms onto the special mounting slots on the Robert axle, and when you have one out, the sodding weight in the trailer can twist the whole caboodle and bend the Bob fitting before you can get the other out and unhitch. I doubt if a stand would help with that. You can imagine that this combo is a real pain when you have to get it over the bridge at railway stations, and it nearly resulted in Merseyrail nearly parting me and the trailer on the platform from the bike on the train. It's a long story for another time. Another axle example recently featured on here, with a 12mm front axle bearing the Herculean weight limit of a monster American front rack.
HoarseMann 3 hours ago
This has nothing to do with the type of bike - it's the type of behaviour that's the problem. Banning the sale of such bikes will not curtail the behaviour. They'll just find another type of vehicle and continue to drive dangerously as there's such a lack of enforcement. I'd sooner see them ban the bally. But really, all that's required is an improvement to roads policing.
AidanR 3 hours ago
The EAPC Bill is welcome, but full of holes. What's to stop an overpowered but temporarily limited e-bike being sold and subsequently delimited? This is often a trivial process.
Sredlums 4 hours ago
@KiwiMike Yeah, in my over four decades of riding all over Europe I've never 'been for a ride in the countryside'. That must be it. Or, and I know this is a wild concept, you just accept that I just voiced my personal experiences and never missed a kickstand, like I wrote. Anyway, what's the big horror of laying your bike on its side for the very few occasions where there is nothing to lean your bike against?
mdavidford 4 hours ago
They may have looked, but did they see?
jackcycles 4 hours ago
Ds2025: where they are going wrong is that they are crushing the motorbike rather than the person sat on top of it. If they did the latter this issue would be solved in less than 24 hours.
Rod Marton 4 hours ago
I came this way today with the car boot sale in operation. There was a marshal at the entrance, who stopped a car turning right across the cycleway as I was approaching. So that certainly works. I think it necessary for the marshal to be there, I couldn't say if the driver would have turned if he hadn't been there but you always have to suspect the worst. Unfortunately there is no marshal at the exit, and there was certainly a car stopped across the cycleway as I was approaching it. But he pulled onto the road before I reached it, and the following car stayed off the cycleway as I went through. Ideally there should have been a marshal there too. On the whole, though, it's a really high standard piece of infrastructure. Just a pity it doesn't extend a bit further.
eburtthebike 4 hours ago
“absolute carnage” So right! Just look at the bodies piled up, blood running in the gutters and injured people limping away. It's a bit of a problem with a road, delaying some people for minutes at a time: it isn't carnage, let alone 'absolute carnage'. Anyone who exaggerates so ridiculously really shouldn't be allowed to comment in public, unless they want to demonstrate their idiocy to all and sundry.
Jakrayan 5 hours ago
I'm criticising them for not riding in secondary position, not primary. At least 60cms (2 feet) from the edge of the road as the HC explicitly recommends. Leaving aside the small minority of riders who find mounting and dismounting a bike difficult - which sounds suspiciously similar to the motorists "but, but what about disabled drivers?" when talking about LTNs - what's wrong with able bodied riders walking the few metres over that narrow, Victorian bridge? Sure, if there's clearly no-one on it I wouldn't condemn anyone for riding it slowly, but if it's not clear forcing pedestrians to stop and squeeze to the side is, frankly, a rather entitled opinion. Plus it's easy to hold a road bike a little ahead of you and hold the saddle - normally no need to hold the bars if it's straight - so you're really not taking up much more room at all. There's a railway underpass near me that links to a shared then segregated path. It's narrow, and the path approaches at an angle so you can't see if it's clear, but many riders still choose to pedal through despite the clear 'no cycling' signage. Why?? Personally I don't go that way, except on foot, preferring the surrounding roads.
bensynnock 6 hours ago
I think you're giving drivers too much credit. Many would not think twice about blocking the road if it makes their life easier, such as when turning right onto a busy road.
14 thoughts on “Live blog: Ian Walker wins the North Cape 4000, Metro tweet footage of truck driver nearly turning into cyclist (and blames cyclist) + more”
I’m not a twitterer – did
I’m not a twitterer – did Metro come back after all that to try and explain why they thought that it was the cyclist’s fault? Or are they too busy swotting up on the HC?
Sad that even the Metro has
Sad that even the Metro has joined in the cycle bashing. Who owns them now, would it be the Murdochs perchance? Or the Express group, or some other bunch of cycle haters?
Great news about Dr Walker.
Video doesn’t show enough of
Video doesn’t show enough of the low loader and cyclist. Did the cyclist creep up the left before the lorry moved and hence was hidden?
Captions on the metro video were nonsense anyhow.
hirsute wrote:
The cyclist was ahead of the lorry well before the turn and was in the left lane. The lorry was in the right lane. If he wanted to change lanes he should wait until the road was clear. Whatever happened the cyclist clearly did not creep up the side of the lorry. At worst she passed him in a diffrent lane and the lorry was in the wrong lane for a left turn.
John Smith wrote:
The cyclist was ahead of the lorry well before the turn and was in the left lane. The lorry was in the right lane. If he wanted to change lanes he should wait until the road was clear. Whatever happened the cyclist clearly did not creep up the side of the lorry. At worst she passed him in a diffrent lane and the lorry was in the wrong lane for a left turn.
— hirsuteAh, thanks I didn’t spot it was 2 lanes.
hirsute wrote:
At 11seconds you can see the
killing machine in the hands of a I don’t give a fuck because I’m not bothered to look to my left wankerever so careful driver and his unicorns overtake the cyclist a few metres before the junction.This is contrary to the HC not to mention it threatens the life of a human being because this knobjockey can’t be fucking arsed to look, so it should be deemed as dangerous driving. Cunts like this kill and maim with impunity and not give two fucks and people like Metro, daily heil and THINK will continue to blame the victims/vulnerable.
Government sponsorsed victim blaming at its finest here which is contrasry to the HC about overtaking at/near a junction and cutting in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lBvN80JaQ
Metro?
Metro?
A rag with content the value of its cover price. Owned by the same mob as the Daily Mail.
C’mon Dr Ian!
Does anyone actually ever
Does anyone actually ever challenge these media outlets?
Is there anything illegal with a media company editing a video to make it look like something else, trying to promote hatred?
His indicator is on, so he
His indicator is on, so he can just charge through? Wanker!
That vid should be shown in
That vid should be shown in courts where cyclists have been killed by trucks turning left.
The driver assumed that inidicating gave him right of way.
I also think he was telling helmet cam not to worry as he wasn’t in danger as driverman was turning left and not right (hadn’t he seen the clear indication). I think driver man was 100% oblivious of the other cyclist.
Blid spot my arse!
Turning left from the right
Turning left from the right hand straight on lane. Bellend.
vonhelmet wrote:
This is something that drivers of long wheel based vehicles are taught to do, due to their abysmal turning circle , and other road users are expected to take this into account- See HC rule 221.
But cockwomble observation skills nevertheless.
Well done to that man taking
Well done to that man taking the video! How many of us would have spotted what was going to happen?
Did the lorry driver have to
Did the lorry driver have to make it a three point turn because he had to brake (to avoid killing the cyclist), or did he get that wrong too? In any event, he really needs to learn to check his mirrors more, I think. Clearly he’s one of that (very common) class of drivers who think that indicators grant priority rather than showing intention.