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Live blog: Cancellara v Gaimon; Strava stats reveal what athletes are eating and drinking; Movistar rider Jaime Rosón is suspended pending investigation into adverse biological passport finding + more

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@Smoggysteve "Most would happily ride on the roads and be treated with respect by drivers". But people aren't - and as far as I can see they won't be. Not until there is a lot less driving and it's slower around cyclists, and far more people driving have "skin in the game" eg. they sometimes cycle and their friends and family do also. That's what leads to the model - which is perhaps most advanced in NL - where cycling, walking and driving are all seen as separate normal transport modes. Their needs, vulnerabilities and any dangers to others are considered. And *that* leads to "mix / share when possible, separate when necessary". But "possible" is "where your 10-year old would be safe to cycle unsupervised" - so very few motor vehicles, going slow! And AFAICS everybody - even "existing cyclists" - is happy with the result. (I dunno about a few pro cyclists - but don't they tend to have training camps in different counties anyway?)
@quiff as an Edinburgh resident I can confidently say he's speaking without moving his lips in one sense: - while as I noted in a separate comment there *is* now some real separated cycle infra, all the examples i can think of have *at least as much space* for pedestrians. The rest of the "cycle infra" is essentially similar to the situation in the rest of the UK: eg. bus lanes*, cycle lanes and shared use paths (eg. "build" infra by sticking up a sign). Edinburgh is one of the places with a moderately extensive network of former railways which have been converted to "shared use" paths (completely motor traffic few). However though shared they are not narrow by UK standards. And this is all effectively a "free extra" for all non- motorised users, not like the "sign a cycle path" where pedestrians do lose space. I think this all comes from the "popular understanding" of cycling in which ultimately cyclists are the "other". They don't fit "motor vehicle" or "pedestrian" (including wheelchairs on the very rare occasions people think about that). Thus "cyclists are cheating" in multiple ways! They shouldn't get their own space as "there aren't enough" of them. And "they can just use the road / path". But being able to *choose* "on the road" or "on the footway" (shared use path) is clearly unfair - nobody else gets to do that! BUT of course even if they did pick just one of road OR pedestrian space it's still not fair anyway because they're "too slow" for the road (don't pay "road tax" etc...) and "far too fast" for pedestrians... * Though some existing cyclists may appreciate them when there are few buses, buses and bikes are a very poor mix for several reasons.
Whilst a shame for any employees, their bib shorts had the worst chamois pad I’d ever encountered, utter waste of my money. Even though they were Strava challenge discount purchases, still a waste of money.
Thanks, just going to have to suck it up. Got next week off and will take the easy, if expensive option...
@ktache Just go for the TNT Sports only package, £30.99 for a month. Alternatively have you considered experimenting with a VPN for a few pounds, allowing you to sign up for a free stream abroad, e.g. SBS Australia which streams the Tour live? If I didn't have a kind mate's login that's what I'd do!
So, it's now the month of July and I'm going to have to pay to watch the TdF, for one month only. On a tablet unfortunately, as I didn't manage to get a laptop to rig up to the TV, grrr. Just wondering, what package will I have to fork out for? Not wanting to pay for the wrong one...
Not that it sounds like a dealbreaker given the other faults you've identified, but that cable isn't really a "proprietary" cable, four pin magnetic cables like that are quite common on bone-conducting headphones and other devices (my inexpensive smartwatch uses one) and they can be had for £4.99 on UK Amazon.
There was never really anything to say about le col kit. Most of it was alright. Some of it was poorly designed/made. Trying to position yourself as a Rapha competitor whilst always offering 40% or more off doesn't scream premium though.
Up next in the MucOff product line; for when the cassette won't budge, (chain)whip-it!
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Extremely misleading headline
Extremely misleading headline on the Mottram story. Reading the copy it’s clear how out of context that headline is – making him out to be cycling’s equivalent of Gerald Ratner. This site is getting more clickbaity by the day
Zebulebu wrote:
It’s been like this for many many years.
Zebulebu wrote:
crap laggy comments double post
Zebulebu wrote:
That’s the inevitable consequence of a business model which depends on advertising – to pay the team & cover the costs, they’ve got to have revenue. One way of getting revenue is selling advertising. To sell advertising space, you’ve got to have visitors. Too attract visitors, you’ve got to have clickable headlines.
Building up a loyal, regular, valuable readership based on high quality content alone without clickbait headlines takes a very long time, and may not even be a sustainable model nowadays.
I’d agree that there are many clickbait headlines here, more than there used to be. But we’re still voting to support them with our mouse clicks, so they’re doing something right.
Don’t like it? Click elsewhere.
Almost Daily Mail esque in
Almost Daily Mail esque in creating a clickbaitable headline from something by lack of context.
N.B. If there was any doubt that’s NOT a compliment.
pastyfacepaddy wrote:
Guess what guys? This is a business. How much do you pay to read this site? I thought so.
Give them a break.
simonmb wrote:
Guess what guys? This is a business. How much do you pay to read this site? I thought so.
Give them a break.— pastyfacepaddy
Time is money. I lost £0.27 reading this site today.
Nonsense – regarding the
Nonsense – regarding the Mottram headline, it’s not clickbait it’s simple reporting.
Mottram himself said that statement himself to be ‘inflammatory’ so to the trolls above, go and piss over his chips, or Matt Barbet’s who published the interview, you’re not forced to read the site.
peted76 wrote:
Who the fuck are you calling a troll? I’m pointing out that something has been taken out of context. Or do you not understand that? If he’d said that to be inflammatory, trust me – Rapha have an army of publicists who’d do a much better job of using it – it would probably end up in a marketing brochure. There’s a big difference between pointing something out, and someone who is ‘trolling’ (eg: deliberately winding people up to get a reaction). And yes, I am aware that I have fallen spectactularly into that trap here…
I understand the need to drive revenue through clicks. Editorial content needs to be paid for somehow (hence the seemignly endless videos of people being close passed, with attendant wittering in the comments and (true) trolling. However – there is a huge amount of value to be gained in treading that line between compelling content and commercial/’sucker’ content. I’m merely pointing out that this fails to tread that line
Mottram article seems to have
Mottram article seems to have gone from the live blog now. You’ve hurt their feelings