The ultimate saddle bag

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  • #27916
    survivor

    Several close friends and I have been working on a bicycle saddle bag prototype and would like to get some inputs and feedbacks from fellow cyclists here. We want to make sure we are on the right path to help address the issues that current saddle bags have.

    As avid cyclists ourselves, we often time have our dilemmas when it comes to saddle bag. Practical or aesthetic? Size or storage? At one hand we want the saddle bag practicality of carrying around the essentials items like spare tubes and multitools during our rides. On the other hand we want to keep the clean aesthetic of our bike. In the case where the practical sense won the first dilemma, we typically still need to trade off between storage space or utterly bulky saddle bag. Even the ones least concern with aesthetic would shake their heads staring at the brick like saddle bag hanging below the bicycle saddle. Majority of the saddle bags in the market today are boxy and black, which doesn’t help to promote the saddle bag’s stylish or aesthetic aspect.

    What do you guys look for when choosing a saddle bag? What is in your wish list of the ultimate saddle bag? If you are not a saddle bag user today, what is holding you back and what will make you switch camp?

    Would you be interested if there is a saddle bag that can do the following?
    1. Compact enough to carry most of your essential items. Think 2 spare tubes, 2 tire levers,  2 CO2 canisters, Multitools with chain tool, patch kit, all these in a compact form factor.
    2. Stylish enough to not ruin your bike aesthetic, this can be quite subjective and personal but assume it meets your styling requirement.
    3. Quick attach and release. Much faster than dealing with Velcro.
    4. Abundant styling/color choices.

    We love to hear your inputs and hopefully we will be able to create something that all the cyclists want to use. Thanks!

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  • #907739
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    survivor
    Welsh boy wrote:
    survivor wrote:
    SNAP.B is now live on Kickstarter! Checkout its Kickstarter page [url=https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vouel/snapb-worlds-fastest-bicycle-saddle-bag?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=vouel]here[/url].

    It looks good but you really should get someone to proof read your English!

     

    Thank you for your feedback. We will look into it.

    #907737
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    Welsh boy
    survivor wrote:
    SNAP.B is now live on Kickstarter! Checkout its Kickstarter page [url=https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vouel/snapb-worlds-fastest-bicycle-saddle-bag?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=vouel]here[/url].

    It looks good but you really should get someone to proof read your English!

    #907735
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    survivor

    We are live on Kickstarter!

    SNAP.B is now live on Kickstarter! Checkout its Kickstarter page [url=https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vouel/snapb-worlds-fastest-bicycle-saddle-bag?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=vouel]here[/url].
    #907733
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    aegisdesign
    LastBoyScout wrote:
    aegisdesign wrote:
    Late to this but I don’t use CO2 canisters. Personally don’t think they’re good for the environment and it really tees me off seeing discarded CO2 cartridges by the road side. And discarded gel packets too. TAKE THEM HOME.

    I used to get fed up with this too. Then I started to realise that many of the canisters I was picking up were un-branded and it occurred to me that they might actually be discarded “hippy crack” (nitrous oxide) canisters and just giving cyclists a bad name.

    Some are NO but I come across plenty of CO2 also so either cyclists or very confused hippies.

    #907731
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    LastBoyScout
    aegisdesign wrote:
    Late to this but I don’t use CO2 canisters. Personally don’t think they’re good for the environment and it really tees me off seeing discarded CO2 cartridges by the road side. And discarded gel packets too. TAKE THEM HOME.

    I used to get fed up with this too. Then I started to realise that many of the canisters I was picking up were un-branded and it occurred to me that they might actually be discarded “hippy crack” (nitrous oxide) canisters and just giving cyclists a bad name.

    I’ll agree on the gel wrappers, though – and they might also be from runners.

     

    Back on topic, I have a Continental case with a spare tube, 2x CO2 and a couple of tyre levers shoe-horned in on my best bike: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/continental-tube-bag-with-tube-and-tyre-levers

    My older bike has a Trek pack similar to the Topeak mini wedge with similar content.

    Then I have a small neoprene pouch in a pocket with a couple of hex keys, a few plasters and zip ties, tyre boot, patches, glue, chain breaker and quick link.

    If it’s a very long ride, I’ll take a mini-pump on a bracket and perhaps a second tube somewhere.

    #907729
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    aegisdesign

    Late to this but I don’t use

    Late to this but I don’t use CO2 canisters. Personally don’t think they’re good for the environment and it really tees me off seeing discarded CO2 cartridges by the road side. And discarded gel packets too. TAKE THEM HOME.

    So, any seatpack has to take a 15-16cm long Sapo Aria minipump, 1 tube, Topeak Hexus tool, Stique levers and a Rema Tiptop TT02 patch kit. Plus house key and sometimes a cafe lock.

    If someone remade a Kirtland seatwedge from the early 90s I’d be very happy. Long, thin, ladder webbing, velco belt you threaded through the ladder webbing to cinch down the contents and stop the rattle. Killed the zip on mine in about 2010.

    #907727
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    survivor

    A quick side by side size

    A quick side by side size comparion against other saddle bags.

    https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1968/43080080870_54b2b71cf1.jpg

    #907725
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    survivor
    mattsccm wrote:
    Sorry if its a bit late but might I suggest?:

    Not a woven fabric as most are. It holds muck, is never water proof and takes for ever to dry.

    Avoid zips. They are the first things to break.

    Light fastening that is solid not a strap. So the light always point to the rear not down and doesn’t wiggle. Movement means eventual breakage.

    Tool free attachment at all stages so not screw on bracket. Crap idea that makes swapping bikes awkward. Velcro is perfect if properly done.  

    No interference with possible use of arse saver type splash guards. The type of person who is  fussy about a bags looks is the same person who is daft enough not to use mudguardsblush

    Size is irrelevant as we all want different things.

     

    Thanks for the suggestions. There are a lot of fabric options that we are still working on. Point on woven fabric is well taken.

    We think zip is still necessary as it allows easy access to the storage items. We are cautious about the zip quality thus we chose the one with high durability rating.

    Tool free attachment is our thing. If you have not check out our preview video please visit https://www.vouel.com

    We have a solution for light fastening and splash guard. Details will be reveal in coming days.

    #907723
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    mattsccm

    Sorry if its a bit late but

    Sorry if its a bit late but might I suggest?:

    Not a woven fabric as most are. It holds muck, is never water proof and takes for ever to dry.

    Avoid zips. They are the first things to break.

    Light fastening that is solid not a strap. So the light always point to the rear not down and doesn’t wiggle. Movement means eventual breakage.

    Tool free attachment at all stages so not screw on bracket. Crap idea that makes swapping bikes awkward. Velcro is perfect if properly done.  

    No interference with possible use of arse saver type splash guards. The type of person who is  fussy about a bags looks is the same person who is daft enough not to use mudguardsblush

    Size is irrelevant as we all want different things.

     

    #907721
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    survivor
    BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
    What was the final internal dimensions of the bag?

    Will it be carbon rail friendly, also as I mentioned earlier will it be oval rail compatible?

    I ended up buying a Brooks Isle of Wight, it stays on the bike permenantly as I’ve no need to remove it so the quick release isn’t that important to me. It’s big enough that I can put foam cannister, tube, mini tool, food bar, you could just about get a packable rain jacket in.

    It’s certainly a good looking bag and not out of place on a cabon racer and no problems with oval carbon rails either.

    Good luck with the product.

    We didn’t measure the precise dimensions of the bag but it can fit:

    1x spare tube

    2x CO2 canisters with valve control

    1x CO2 dispenser

    2x full size tire levers

    1x patch kit

    1x multi-tool with chain tool

    Additional space for valve extender, zip ties and rubber gloves.

    Yes it is carbon rail friendly. It is compatible with both round metal rails as well as oversize oval carbon rails.

    Brooks Isle of Wight is a nice saddle bag but the size may be on the larger side for some.

     

    #907719
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    Anonymous

    What was the final internal

    What was the final internal dimensions of the bag?

    Will it be carbon rail friendly, also as I mentioned earlier will it be oval rail compatible?

    I ended up buying a Brooks Isle of Wight, it stays on the bike permenantly as I’ve no need to remove it so the quick release isn’t that important to me. It’s big enough that I can put foam cannister, tube, mini tool, food bar, you could just about get a packable rain jacket in.

    It’s certainly a good looking bag and not out of place on a cabon racer and no problems with oval carbon rails either.

    Good luck with the product.

    #907717
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    survivor
    tugglesthegreat wrote:
    For me Evoc Saddle Bag Tour is great. 

    It will take two tubes, it’s got mesh pouches inside to put leavers and tools. It also has a tarp material down the center part so cleaning mud off is easier.

    Having said all that I guess for some that would not be an ideal saddle bag and they only carry one tube or less don’t care about the easy clean feature. 

     

    SNAP.B has the option to take two tubes if needed and its easily clean as well.

    #907715
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    tugglesthegreat

    For me Evoc Saddle Bag Tour

    For me Evoc Saddle Bag Tour is great. 

    It will take two tubes, it’s got mesh pouches inside to put leavers and tools. It also has a tarp material down the center part so cleaning mud off is easier. 

    Having said all that I guess for some that would not be an ideal saddle bag and they only carry one tube or less don’t care about the easy clean feature. 

     

    #907713
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    kil0ran

    Ah, nice idea. No issue with

    Ah, nice idea. No issue with having the zip at the bottom if you can remove/replace so easily.

    Been working on saddle position for the last week or so and one of my pet hates is removing and restrapping my saddle bag. Same frustration applies when putting the bike on the workstand.

    Granted this is a very niche annoyance but even so I’m pleased to see a different approach.

    #907711
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    survivor

    Hi! It has been some time.

    Hi! It has been some time.

    We are hard at work and we are very close now. Tentatively we are planning for October launch at Kickstarter. We are still working out the details.

    As a preview, checkout https://www.vouel.com

    If you are interested, subscribe to our newsletter and get the latest updates from us! More details to come, stay tuned!

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