[Pdjohnson]

Hi,

its time I replaced my Focus Cato Evo (worn out). I do about 100,000m ascent a year and love hilly routes, more the better. I live at the  bottom of The Cat & Fiddle.

With about £2500 budget and a pair of Mavis Krysium Elites to transfer to new bike I’m after any advice you might have. This will be my one and only main bike, so an all rounder with climbing leaning.

I like a more sporty ride, so a sportive bike maybe not for me.

I have looked at Trek Edmonda and considering Canyon Ultime SL 9.0.

Id certainly want Ultegra As I have enjoyed this on existing bike.

thanks for you advice and experience in advance.

Paul (aged 45 76kg, 1.90m)

 

 

 

 

 

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[madcarew]

philhubbard wrote:

I’d potentially have a word with CycleDivision in Derbyshire, they have the Scott Solace Disc well under your budget with Ultegra, plenty of space for some 28mm tyres for peak district roads as well, https://www.cycledivision.co.uk/products/scott-bikes/scott-2016-solace-10 

Definitely try before you buy. Depending on what you’ve ridden before, Scotts have a rather distinct geometry. I looked to replace my race bike with a CR1 which was their flagship model, but really couldn’t get comfy with their geomtry, it was too upright. An acquired taste I think. Sound frames though.

[allanj]

Pdjohnson wrote:

allanj wrote:

Cervelo R2 Ultegra- great with those wheels.

 

Currently a really good deal at Edinburgh bicycle:  https://www.edinburghbicycle.com/cervelo-r2-ultegra-2017.html, leaving you some change for upgrades.

I’m not totally aware of where Cervello sits in the ecosystem of brands. I get the impression Trek is perceived at higher ticket than Canyon. It’s hard to tell really. Having had a Focus I’m cool with having a brand others might turn their nose up at. However, I am more inclined to invest in a bike which is more refined if that is actually a thing.

There seems to be a lot of favourable reviews for the Emonda SL6.

 

Interesting question!

 

I am biased as an owner but would say that they sit pretty high.  They just make high quality road and tri bikes (no hybrids, MTBs etc) and have been genuine innovators with an engineering based approach.  They also have a lifetime warranty on the frame with a good reputation for honouring it.  Owners tend to be very loyal and they get good reviews, I love mine.

 

[zzk]

It’s important to buy

It’s important to buy something that floats your boat and is going to put a smile on your face every time you put your leg over it. In my opinion fit comes first, so make sure you try before you buy, especially as you sound as though you may not have much experience of getting a bike properly set up. Cannondale, Ribble, Focus all fit me like a glove in respective sizes, but Wilier, Cervelo, Trek, Fuji and several others just come out second best as although my plumb line, spirit level and tape say they are set up the same they just don’t “feel” the same. You can swap stems, saddles seat posts, chainsets, headset spacers etc, but somehow a bike that’s “right” for you, just feels special.

+1 for Cannondale supersix evo HM, best bike I’ve ever ridden (until I snapped it….don’t ask, poor skills). Focus Izalco max, v light fast bike. If your not in a rush, wait until late August when the 2107 bikes start getting heavily discounted, may get a DA specced Evo into your price bracket or something else a bit special. Alternatively The Cycleshow at Birmingahm NEC in September, full of bike porn and you can get your leg over any number of makes and models.  Happy buying and riding.

[Pdjohnson]

allanj wrote:

Cervelo R2 Ultegra- great with those wheels.

 

Currently a really good deal at Edinburgh bicycle:  https://www.edinburghbicycle.com/cervelo-r2-ultegra-2017.html, leaving you some change for upgrades.

I’m not totally aware of where Cervello sits in the ecosystem of brands. I get the impression Trek is perceived at higher ticket than Canyon. It’s hard to tell really. Having had a Focus I’m cool with having a brand others might turn their nose up at. However, I am more inclined to invest in a bike which is more refined if that is actually a thing.

There seems to be a lot of favourable reviews for the Emonda SL6.

[700c]

alansmurphy wrote:

Cat and Fiddle isn’t a hill 🙂

 

378 m of ascent. Sounds like a hill to me.  And established by cycling clubs as a ‘hill climb’. 

[allanj]

Cervelo R2 Ultegra- great

Cervelo R2 Ultegra- great with those wheels.

 

Currently a really good deal at Edinburgh bicycle:  https://www.edinburghbicycle.com/cervelo-r2-ultegra-2017.html, leaving you some change for upgrades.

[SingleSpeed]

alansmurphy wrote:

Cat and Fiddle isn’t a hill 🙂

 

More a lump really, had some Yorkshire chap giving it all the ‘god’s country’ talk when in Devon then got promptly dropped.

[Pdjohnson]

Thanks to everyone who has

Thanks to everyone who has responded with suggestions. Broadening my palette at this stage is very helpful.

I’ve only been in the saddle about 4 years so having your experience and advice is a great help. I’m only going to buy one in the next few years so it needs to be right!

[Pdjohnson]

YevgeniPoliakov wrote:

Cheshire PLAIN.  ‘Cheshire planes’ are what cross the county by air.

 

 

thanks. It’s because of comments like this I am always wary of using cycling forums. Always people lurking ready to make snarky comments. Not only does the iPhone auto correct I’m dyslexic.

 

 

[philhubbard]

I’d potentially have a word

I’d potentially have a word with CycleDivision in Derbyshire, they have the Scott Solace Disc well under your budget with Ultegra, plenty of space for some 28mm tyres for peak district roads as well, https://www.cycledivision.co.uk/products/scott-bikes/scott-2016-solace-10 

[CycleDivvy]

alansmurphy wrote:

Tour of the Peaks a few weeks ago still hurt, Winnats is a bitch!

Seconded. It’s a pig to climb but it’s worse coming down – I know a guy who burst his tyre going down because he was leaning on the brakes so hard and the heat popped the tyre.

 

[CygnusX1]

Yes but the Cheshire plains

Yes but the Cheshire plains are, by and large, on the same horizontal plane.

[YevgeniPoliakov]

Cheshire PLAIN.  ‘Cheshire

Cheshire PLAIN.  ‘Cheshire planes’ are what cross the county by air.

 

[Kapelmuur]

I have to duck to avoid the

I have to duck to avoid the Cheshire planes when riding near Mobberley because it’s very near to Manchester airport.

[alansmurphy]

pd – I cycle from Alsager way

pd – I cycle from Alsager way so for a while had to endure the planes to get to the Cat, I’ve now found much punishment.

 

A quick start of Mow Cop (or slow if you hit the 25% killer mile) then Biddulph Grange, Bosley, Tittensbrook before dropping to the Killer Mile for a nice warm up to the Peaks, Horrid Hill and a bacon bap at Flash, Burntcliff and Wincle hurt before the slowest draggiest soul destroying drag into Rushton Spencer. Around 85 miles and 6,000 plus feet of uppy is always a blast.

 

Tour of the Peaks a few weeks ago still hurt, Winnats is a bitch!

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