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Thanks for all the comments & thoughts people.....seems islabikes are the future...which how it's going to be I think. I'm leaning toward a ridgeback mx 12 or specialized hotrock 12 currently. I'll see how he gets on with that for 12 months or so , if he gets the bike bug I'll look at getting his a proper bike.
Islabikes are awesome, the ones to beat. Look here http://www.thelittlebikecompany.co.uk/bike-brand/early-rider.html for the best alternatives at that age
My boy was on a crossbar seat from 6 months, but refused point blank to do any riding himself. He was ok with the Trailgator, but I was doing the "no stabiliser" thing so he just refused point blank to ride himself. I gave in after taking parenting not cycling advice, and around he trundled. I knew that he could ride himself, because I'd filmed him doing it the once, but he just didn't want to
then, one weekend, after several years of this, we were at a campsite, and there were a group of kids taking turns on a bike his size. I threw the kid off next time they came past, put my lad on, gave him a shove and off he went! Because he wanted to, not because anyone else said so ...
he's now racing road and cross on a Worx bike after a few Islas, and has got his eye on a PlanetX. He can out sprint and climb me if I'm on my Pashley, at the horrifying age of 11 ...
https://youtu.be/sFX2KO8zpbw?t=84
just get the lightest bike you can afford, and keep it fun.
Another Islabike fan here.
Now that my boy is turning 5 and soon to outgrow his Cnoc 14, I'm seriously considering The Bike Club (http://www.thebikeclub.co).
You "lease" what seems to be decent quality bikes and swap them as soon as they're no longer the right size. Annual running cost is a lot cheaper than a brand new Islabike. It's a brilliant idea... so much so that Islabike is going to develop a similar scheme:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2016/oct/21/islabikes-radical-new-plan-means-you-may-never-need-to-buy-your-child-a-bike-again
... and it's good for the environment so you get to feel smug as well.
Re stabilizers, the other day I saw a Cnoc 14 withouth bottom bracket or pedals, ring, etc of course. Not a bad idea I'd say.
My eldest took to cycling really well and worked his way through a balance bike and has now nearly outgrown his second Islabike (which are fantastic).
My youngest (now 4) tried the balance bike and didn't take to it, and then tried the smallest Islabike (with and without pedals/chainset). The thing that got him riding and wanting to ride was dragging him along with a Trail-Gator which he loved: http://www.trail-gator.com/
They're about £40, and you need your kid to have a bike with pedals so he has somewhere for his feet, and you can really tell when he bothers to pedal. A bike of riding with that and then he wanted to go and ride on his own. It's really easy to attach/detatch mid-ride as well (and fine on off road on 'family trails').
Did a lot of research on this for my son at a similar age. I bought an Earlyrider... circa 5kg (which was already 30% of his weight!), belt-driven, brushed aluminium - so no scratched paintwork - and a beautiful looking bike..... I'll have no hesitation about buying him the next size up when he needs it...
Hi, Woodsman (could we be distantly related?). Apologies for being a bit late to the Isla Bikes love-in party, but I would have to agree that the Cnoc 14 - if you can afford/justify the initial outlay - is a sound bet.
That said, when my son got his Cnoc 14 for his third birthday the RRP was £200. I thought that was expensive enough 2 1/2 years ago, but the list price now is £280! That's quite a commitment if, as in your case, your child doesn't seem overly keen to actually ride a bike.
On the plus side, as others have said, Isla Bikes do seem to hold their price fairly well. And the one we bought - currently in near-perfect condition - will be handed down to little sis, so there's a bit of a saving there. Just a few more things:
I agree that you should try to avoid stabilisers if at all possible: the bloke I spoke to on the phone at Isla Bikes just about refused to sell me any (the stabilisers were my OH's idea)!
Balance bike use for a year meant he was able to ride his Cnoc 14 - including turning corners and getting off without falling over - within a matter of minutes of taking it for its first ride.
If buying second hand perhaps look for the more recent models with the integrated chain guard.
Lastly, my son has caught up a little with his peers, but was rather small for a three year old. I'm not sure if the Cnoc 14 was available in Small & Large varieties back then, so you might want to check the sizing carefully if your lad is relatively tall.
I got my son one of the Decathlon bikes when he turned 4. He'd had a balance bike but still had stabilisers. When we wanted to take them off he got the hang of it in about 20minutes. At 4 1/2 he rode 8 miles on it around London during the Freecycle.
There are lighter bikes and ideally you wouldn't use stabilisers but you just have to go with what's possible (affordable) and what works.
Islabikes. They are lightweight, which makes it possible for your child to ride up hills, your child will actually be able to operate the brakes, which will make them feel safe, and you will be able to resell it for most of what you bought it for. Think of it as a cheap loan.
Don't fit destabilises! Everyone learns at their own pace, if he's not happy on the balance bike yet there's no shame in having fun on a micro scooter.
Frog bikes - we gad a real dilemma getting our kids bikes and settled on those over Isla bikes - you can check them out in loads of places. It made the difference for our two between not wanting to ride their big heavy first bikes to being on them all the time and they're designed for little ones of all sizes.
Like Isla they hold value well. They are very well made and light for a kids bike..
My local club does a kids club 'Peddlamaniacs' they teach kids who can't ride to ride and take the pedals off bikes to turn them into balance bikes first, before moving to pedaling. Agree stabilisers are a thing of the past.
I would STRONGLY advise against using stabilisers. They only make it harder for the child to ride when you remove them.
You'll be very lucky to find a Cnoc for under £150 but they are worth the extra, I promise. There is a preused Islabikes sale group on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/826309394088435/
Otherwise I'd second the recommendation for Ridgeback MX bikes (I think there is an MX14 in the lineup). They are excellent value and appear regularly on ebay.
Islabike Cnoc 14 - the best bikes out there for kids, undisputed.
You can pick em up on ebay for less than a ton and you'll get back most of that in resale value.
You're very welcome.
THIS!
I bought a bike from Decathlon for my Daughter when she was 4 but in hindsight would have been better off getting an Islabike Cnoc 14.
That isn't to say that the Decathlon bike isn't good, it was actually great. There were only two issues which were that it was rather heavy (so she wouldn't/couldn't ride it for too long) and the total ownership cost of the bike (purchase price - resale price) is far greater than an Islabike.
Islabikes are very clearly the leader and you absolutely won't go wrong with them. Plus they hold their value extraordinarily well.
Frog bikes pretty much just as good, at a slightly lower cost.
That said, depending on amount of cycling your child is actually going to do before outgrowing the bike, and whether you have (or will have) other children who you can pass bikes down to, the Decathlon option can be great. Bikes are really not bad, and are a fraction of the cost of an Islabike. Yes, they're heavier, and if you are planning on regularly doing 10+ milers with your young child, the Islabike would be a better option, but for general pootling, they're pretty good. And they're pretty much bomb proof! You may need to tweak the brakes a bit to get them working well though.
My eldest son's first two bikes were Decathlon bikes. Both got passed down to son #2. And when my daughter is old enough, she will work her way through them. I feel like I have got pretty good value for money out of these two bikes, given the fairly small number of tens of pounds I spent on them.
Separate note: both my boys learned to ride initially with stabilisers. There was not really any problem when we thought it was about time for them to come off. Both boys got the hang of it straight away (although eldest, having ridden metres on his own without realising we weren't holding on, proceeded to assert that he was not going to ride again without stabilisers until he was 4). Sure enough, come his fourth birthday, he was quite happy for the stabilisers to be removed permanently...! Funny children.
This. The weight and geometry of the Islabikes are miles ahead and are really important.
However, if you can't get them on the balance bike I do wonder whether they'll ride a bike at all, let alone a bad tricycle, which is what a bike with stabilisers is.
Is there an issue with the balance bike such as seat height or weight? Set the seat so that they can get their feet flat on the floor with a hint of a bend at the knee to start with, then it can go up slightly once they've got used to walking on it.
My eldest took a long time to decide that they did want to ride the balance bike (nearly a year), but they got there in the end, loved it, and is now riding a Cnoc very confidently. My second eldest took to it immediately at a much younger age.
My kids started off with Ridgeback MX14s. The brake levers are reach adjustable so coudl be managed by small kids, which is a common fault on budget bikes. I see the Hotrock gets round this by having a coaster brake.
https://www.evanscycles.com/specialized-hotrock-12-coaster-2016-kids-bik...