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I think if you have the money then the BBB hits the spot. I also considered the Kinesis bikes - 5T, 6 Pro, and Tripster ATR.
If you're not going to run permanent guards then the latest version of the SKS Raceblades look to be the best option (there's a review on this site).
Cheers for the responses all.
Mudguards are a likely going to be useful for commuting, but probably wouldn't run them off-road. thus its not a deal breaker on that front. The bike will probably spend most of its time on road either commuting or on the sunday club run in the winter. But also a few winter cross rides so be capable off road. May run a rack for some light touring, but again not its main purpose.
Have considered a few others too, the London road seemed to come with horror stories about alot of the cracking. Had a gander at the Sonder Camino, the PX tempest, Cube Cross Sl etc, as well as the Dolan and Merlin CX bikes. It mostly seems to be down to spec, mostly the Cube and Cannondale win out on that front, but I'd have to switch to 50x34 from 46x36 and only takes <35 tyres.
As an all round value package, the BBB seems hard to beat, although they've just switched the wheels from tubeless ready WTBs to the vision 30's. Jez: how do you find the BBB on the road, is it super relaxed and a bit slack, or just similar to an enduro road bike?
Cheers
I have used the XLS for nearly 2 years as my commuting / winter bike. I managed to bodge some mudguards on but wanted a frame with proper mudguard mounts. Recentlybought the London Road frameset when it was heavily reduced to replace it.
The XLS is a great frame & not much slower than my summer bike. I guess it really depends on your priorities. Mine never really went off road so discs & mudguads was top priority.
I like the look of the BBB but there is now more choice for this type of frame. How about something from Kinesis e.g. the Racelight or Crosslight?
Loving my Orro Terra Gravel. Classy looking frame, mudguard eyelets, TRP Spyres and sweet 3T finishing kit.
XLS is quite an old frameset now, and was always considered to be the racier of their CX frames (the Dirty Disco was the more relaxed version). Pretty sure it doesn't have mudguard mounts either.
I was very tempted by the BBB but ended up going with a Merida Cyclocross 500 as I needed to get the bike on CtW. There are a few places selling for around £750 - 105, carbon fork, 6066 frameset, thru-axle to front, internal routing, Spyre-C's. Comes with 33mm rubber, with clearance for more (sans guards). Has standard mudguard eyelets at the rear and slightly less standard ones at the front (plug in halfway up fork, with an under-crown fixing). Paintjob is a bit marmite, but I like the pale blue and white.
I got a BBB. It'll take rack and guards which were both a must for commuting duties for me. It's a great ride, and usefully lighter than either the Arkose or London Road mentioned above. If you live somewhere hilly like I do then that counts.
I'd recommend it.
Not an issue for the OP but I don't think you can fit a pannier rack on the BBB. The mudguard adaptors they sell to go with it are way too flimsy for that.
Now I'm guilty of derailing thread on subject not important to OP too. But... you can put a rack on - I have. Piece of piss. What else are those bosses at the top of the seat stays for?
You just need some screw-in eyelets, which - when I asked - PX couldn't supply. Others can, tho. Prob wouldn't load 40kg on back but more than adequate for commuting duties.
Can I let you know after the weekend, I've entered my first novice cross event with my new XLS
Loads of possibilities. The GT Grade and Pinnacle Arkose ranges seem to offer pretty good value.
The PX London Road maybe, too, depending on how much commuting duties are in thr remit.
Bought myself a BBB a couple of months ago and I'm loving it, so much so that I took all of the Ultegra 6800 kit I had on one frame and then bought some 685 Shimano calipers and levers plus some Hunt 4 Season wheels to top it off. Gorgeous bike that gets comments everywhere I take her and she just as happy crawling around in mud as zooming down country lanes or climbing the Pennines and then working as my commuter when needed.
I was stuck in the same thought process. I had a Planet X RT-57 which I was using for sportives and racing. The rear dropouts wore down in the carbon making my rear wheel unsteady, I called them up and they said its two months out of warranty too bad, it is 2 years and two months old.
I bought the CAADX 105 4 weeks ago and have ridden 700 miles on it. It's a beautiful bike which takes a punishing whether it has slicks on it or the CX tyres supplied. I use it as my commuter and at the moment my weekend bike due to the Planet X being un-rideable. I plan to use it as my do everything bike throughout the winter and then buy a decent race bike in the spring.
I hope this helps.